The Joyce Kaufman Show 6/25/26 - Supreme Court Reversal of an immigration bill, blocking on Roundup Cancer lawsuits, Pride month and Gay identity , Voter turnout in New York, Paul Renner joins the show!

This is the Joyce Kaufman podcast, honest, straight, and unapologelic with your host, Joyce Kaufman. Well, can I get a hallelujah? Because today the Supreme Court reversed the ruling of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit that aliens in Mexico who approach ports of entry on the U.S. border but never physically enter the United States must be allowed to apply for asylum. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Fair had filed a brief, which I read, an amicus brief. And the issue came up because when the number of people seeking to enter the country through a port of entry is too large, border officials have a practice of only letting in those with valid travel documents. And the Ninth Circuit held that. And when this practice is followed, then officials have to let the aliens without travel documents who are waiting outside of the United States also apply for asylum if they wish. So in support of its ruling, the Ninth Circuit pointed to the asylum statute, which allows aliens who arrive in the United States to apply for asylum and claim that aliens who encounter a border officer near the United States, though not actually in the country, have nevertheless arrived in the United States. It's like they make up their own, well, it's not even make up their own rules. change the context and the meaning of words. In opposition to this crazy reading of the statute, You know, you can see clearly that it would make the asylum statute conflict with the president's power to suspend the entry of any class of aliens in the national interest. For example, if the president found it against the national interest to let aliens without valid travel documents enter ports of entry, saying, for instance, that some of them might be suicide bombers. and by a proclamation, suspend their entry into the country. The asylum statute and another law under the Ninth Circuit's reading would actually force officials to let them in, regardless, to be inspected and allowed to apply for asylum. You know, courts should read statutes to avoid such potential conflicts. And here the conflict could have been avoided simply by avoiding the paradox and instead recognizing the obvious. If one has not physically entered the United States, one has not arrived in the United States. So thank goodness the Supreme Court noted that paradoxical reading by the Ninth Circuit.

But that's, you know, that's where we are. And unless we, unless we, you and I, the citizens of this country push back on this stuff, it's only going to get worse. It's only going to get harder. There was a Supreme Court ruling today in favor of Monsanto. You know, basically this, I'm not sure. I'm reading through the decision, but it sounds like they just gave a green light to corporations that's going to shield them from accountability and liability. So. I'm going to have to read through it. It's a case called Dernel v. Monsanto, and the plaintiff sued Monsanto for failing to warn the public about the health risks of glyphosphate. which is a key ingredient in Roundup, and you've been hearing about Roundup for years. Facing billions of dollars in lawsuits from people with all kinds of cancer diagnosis, including non-Hodgkins lymphoma, Bayer-Monsanto, launched a nationwide campaign all over the place. You see it on commercials, and they went into state houses and federal and Supreme Court. They went everywhere. And meanwhile, the farm workers, the landscapers, the golf course maintenance guys, the people who have to work with these pesticides every day, the Supreme Court turned their back on them. You know, this is a pretty, I think, bad ruling. But as I said before, I'm going to have to read through it. The Farm Workers Association of Florida is not happy with it. So I'll read their opinion later on. I'll be after the show. But it feels like a betrayal of the public's right to health and safety, just saying, this is not the direction that we want to see cases like this go. But again, it's hard when I can't fully digest a particular opinion and a ruling until later, because then by tomorrow there'll be 10 other things to talk about. Which is just the nature of modern life. We're on this fast, fast gerbil wheel. And I'm spinning as quick as I can. And sometimes it's not fast enough. You know, I haven't had any discussion about it. And I don't even know that I will have a lengthy discussion about it now, but this nonsense of a pride month, it just aggravates me. But, you know, so does Black History Month and Hispanic Month and Women's Month. You know, why can't we all just be Americans and every month be American Month? Instead, you look at a movement that has grown.

in the most outrageous, speedy pace of anything I've ever seen. It no longer has anything to do with acceptance and equality. You know, now it's literally doctrine. You know, Gallup put out a poll back in February on... And I'm saying this, I'm making the little quotation marks around it, on gay identification. And Gallup estimates that 9% of U.S. adults now identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or something other than heterosexual, which is three times what the number was in 2012. What kind of, you know, that's kind of creepy to me that you would have the rise of identification with young people. You know, I know there are those who say, well, now you feel freer to talk about it so more people are admitting it. But that's not really what they're saying. They're saying that people are embracing a gay identity. Why you've got to embrace it? If you're gay, you're gay. If you're not, you're not. I would think, I feel like it's because the LGBTQ plus LMNOP people, which is not my gay friends are not like this. They have aligned themselves with the Democratic Party and they got to fight for all those stupid issues. which are not their issues at all. Transgenderism? I think that most of the people I know who are gay and have always been gay don't understand the whole transgender thing any more than I do. And they're really kind of resentful. that now, you know, people suspect that just because you're attracted to the same gender that you might be in the wrong body, they said, no, I'm in my right body. I just happen to be attracted to the same gender. But they get cast aside. They've got to embrace transgenderism, even if they think it's, you know, it's not that common and it's not that frequent. Now, there's another explanation for the rise in this sort of self-identification among young people, and that's advertising and the content on TV. You know, that works. People see so much of same-sex couples on television and commercials. I mean, every other commercial that they think every other person must be, you know, gay. Well, no, they're not, you know. And even if it were 9%, That's not the high number. And I don't believe. I don't believe it's 9%. But anyway, I don't want to rant and rave about that. Like I said, I barely want to talk about it. But, you know, it just, I hate seeing these polls and studies, which you know are distorted. And the manner in which the information is collected, you know, is, it's just immoral to me.

It's not, you know, being gay is not a political strategy. But lately, they're trying to make it that. You know, and all the grooming that goes on now is sinful, and we're going to have to answer for it. That's all I know. All right, let me take a quick time out. Don't forget to download the 850 app, the WFTL app on your phone or laptop. You could get podcasts and breaking news and all that cool stuff right there on your phone or your phone book, wherever you want to put it. If you don't want to do that, I know a lot of people say they're tired of adding more apps on their phone, then just visit our website at least once a week. It's 850WFTL.com. Quick break and I'll be right back. So we will be talking with Paul Renner. He's running for the Republican nomination for governor against the Trump endorsed candidate. And that ought to be interesting. Not really. I've gotten to the point where I can't use the word interesting and apply it to politics anymore. Like I'd rather use more accurate terms like disgusting than interesting. Because that's what a lot of what I see is just dreadful behavior by people who should know better. And just a kind of soulless. group of legislators that don't, you know, they're always masquerading behind faith and God, but when it comes right down to it, you know, their behavior tells me quite clearly. They don't actually walk that walk. They just like to say they do. And that is disgusting. It's not interesting. Well, now we have some new data. about what really happened in New York City. Because remember, I was pretty upset about it, thinking that Zohran Mamdani Zohran Mamdani was now the Democrat power broker. But they do this all the time. You know, for the first two years after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez got in, all I heard was the future of the Democrat Party. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, she's going to run for president. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, she's going to lead the party into the next. And really, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez now doesn't even look particularly radical anymore. She's probably a moderate in the new Democrat Party. But what did it was a couple of Pretty, you know, it's easy to see when you look at the numbers and the breakdowns the day after, or two days after. First of all, you had a low turnout election. And so what it did is it allowed a minority of voters to, you know, bring home the victory. Because there's no way that that many New Yorkers.

Particularly think about how expensive it is to live in New York. So even the so-called middle class in New York probably has more money, more expendable income than people anywhere else in the country. And so you can't tell me that those people are pro-socialism. They're the fruit of capitalism. You had a five-term incumbent, Adriano Espaillatéillet, which, by the way, you know, here was a guy who was the leader of the Hispanic caucus in the house. Fat lot of good that did him. I think he also, I think he's the chairman of the congressional Hispanic caucus. But this Avila Chevalier, the more you hear about her and the more clips they play of her, the more you realize this could not have been a decent turnout. There can't be this many New Yorkers who are this crazy. So, yeah, 7% turnout. That's low for anywhere, but it's particularly low for a city like New York. The overall turnout, and then they broke it down into parties. You had 17% of Democratic voters in the city voted. And... The Democratic Socialists of America, the only thing they do well is community organizer. One of the people who got elected is a community organizer. And they go out there. They have awesome field operations. You know, credit where credit is due. And they get people to turn out. People who may never normally turn out. So if it is an election with a low turnout, He who brings the most people to the polls wins. And it seems quite obvious that the Democratic Socialists of America did a good job. New York Post had an incredible cover yesterday. It said the young and the clueless. Just 7% of voters, mostly white and under 30, pick Israel-hating radicals to represent Dems. Mm-hmm. And you look at pictures of them who goes to these rallies, and it's crazy. It's the red wedding and the victims of the red wedding were the Democrats. It was literally, the Democratic Party has just experienced a hostile takeover by the Democratic Socialists of America. who have proven they have the organization to win primaries, especially with low turnout. But can they win races? You know, election data that I saw on a couple of outlets, this one may have been on, I was watching some of the liberal outlets to get their take.

And they said that Anna Avila Chevalier, the one that's so insane, that, you know, blew her nose in the American flag, that one. She drew around, the one that's so insane, that, you know, blew her nose in the American flag, that one. She drew around 33,000 votes from 449,000 active voters in the 13th House district. Many of them college-educated non-Hispanic voters. Yeah. So it's young college grads that often, you know, at odds with the parties, working class, and minority base. The less Hispanic and more college-educated a district, the more likely it was to vote for the challenger. She swept white voters, 68%. to SBAT's 39%. That's according to Vote Hub, which is a nonpartisan political media organization. All right, let me take a break. I want to be speaking with Paul Renner, former speaker, and current, you're not looking for the nomination from the Republican Party for the governor's mansion. So stay right where you are. It's always a great interview. All right, and we're back. And yesterday I thought my interview with the former Speaker of the House. Paul Renner was for yesterday, and I was getting all these angry text messages from people who said, well, where's the interview? Well, here's the interview because I got the dates wrong, but that's okay. You know, I was just over-angueger. I do have the speaker with me today. How are you, sir? Joyce, I'm wonderful. How are you? I can't complain. The world is on fire and a mess, but I try to stay focused on my own little world, and I'm okay. Right. We only do what we can do in our own little world, but there's a lot we can do here in Florida, and we've led the way. We're going to keep doing it when I'm governor. I know. Now, I noticed that you have solicited the two major news networks that might possibly consider hosting a debate, Fox and Newsmax. Has there ever been a primary debate in Florida? I can't remember one. Yeah, in fact, Ron DeSantis and Adam Putnam had a Fox News debate in 2018. It was a big hit. I think they should just reprise what they did in the past, and they want to be fair imbalance. This is a chance to do it. Certainly, Congressman Donald's has been on or mentioned hundreds of times since he got into this race on Fox News. They could be fair and balanced and pull the other candidates in, as the two channels did before in February, the local channels that had the four of us that are kind of the top, consider the top candidates in the race, come to D.C. where Byron will be comfortable, and we can have a debate there about the issues, and the voters deserve that. They want it, they deserve it, and it's just respectful not to give it to them. I agree. And I think that, you know, that's how Democrats operate. They won't be open and transparent, but the Republican Party claims to be the opposite. So a debate sounds like a great idea. I mean, there are some pretty big differences between the candidates in this race, and I think that's relevant. What would you say is the biggest difference between you and, let's say, Byron Donalds's?

Well, there's a lot. One is I'm willing to pay he's not. He's taking, he raised $80 million, but he's still electing to take public money, taxpayer money to fund this campaign, which I could have applied. I could have applied for and gotten tens of thousands of dollars. I didn't because I don't think that's a conservative thing to do, even if you're eligible for it. He's all in for hyperscale data centers. I'm opposed to them. I don't think they're ready for prime time here in Florida that it would hurt our state. And the list goes on and on. You know, the biggest differences are I've got a lifetime of experience and leadership under trust in the military and as a prosecutor, as a business owner, before I ever got into politics. And I've also shown up and delivered results, which at the end of the day, that's what people want. Are you going to be a leader who goes in and gets the job done? And we did that when I was speaker. We'll do when I'm governor. And there's a lot of work to be done. I mean, I looked at some of these races around the country, some of these primaries, and, you know, it was a low turnout in my hometown of New York, and that allowed a two, three, Democratic Socialists. to win their primaries. And, you know, the Democrat Party is being taken over by the far left, which means Republicans better get ready to fight. There's a lot of enthusiasm on their side. Well, you're right, and it really poses the dilemma that we can't afford to lose. We really can't afford to lose because we can't turn our country over to people that would destroy it and people that hate it. And the far left hates this country. I don't think there's any other way around it. The president said as much. I agree with him. And so we've got to fight very hard to make sure that that doesn't happen with that fight for the House and Senate this year. And look, these off-year elections are tough, typically, historically, and so Republicans have got to turn out. if we're going to win. Yeah, absolutely. Now, you know, during your time in the House, in the Florida House, as speaker, there were some pretty interesting, I think, very proactive. bills that got passed, you know, ending the transgender surgery for minors comes to my mind and passing the pro-life heartbeat protection bill. You know, can you take that same philosophy, those same issues up to Washington and expect results? Well, Washington's broken, and I'm not going to Washington. I'm going to stay here in Tallahassee where we can get things done. But we have a lot more things like that to be done. And I think a key difference between me and Donald's is that he didn't accomplish a lot when he was in the state house. He didn't accomplish anything in the Congress. I'm going to get things done. And I've proven that already. So people can take it to the bank knowing that we're going to have another eight years that look a lot like this eight years of strong, forward-leaning leadership.

And that's what we're going to give when we're elected governor. But you see, I see governors spending a lot of time in Washington, particularly Republican governors now, because they have a friend in the White House. And I see them moving. legislation way more than they ever did in the past. And, you know, I think you're going to, you'd be a great advocate for some of these, particularly some of these social issues that come up. You've got a friend in the White House. It would be nice if we could get, you know, men out of girls' sports, for instance. Sure. Well, I think the president's model a lot of his efforts since becoming president on what we've done here in Florida. I would certainly be a great partner for him and advocate and to help him in any way possible to kind of make America, Florida, if you will, and make it more like Florida would be a good thing. I think he's moving us in that, or trying to move us in that direction, and we'll do whatever I can to help in D.C. as well to advocate. while continuing to protect and expand the free state of Florida here at home. Yeah. What do you see happening right now in the State House? Because it doesn't seem as though they're paying as much attention to some of the things that you and I have always talked about and that I think need attention. Certainly property insurance is a big one. What happened? Why are they not moving the way it was moving in the last session? Well, I'll just say leadership matters. And, you know, every speaker's different. Some have more modest agenda items that they want to tackle. I had the desire to really... bring home a lot of conservative wins and we did that on insurance. I've got a plan as governor to bring down rates between 10 and 20 percent our homeowners insurance through a series of regulatory reforms that will work and will allow us to lower those costs in the short run and people need that. We've done a lot to repair our market when I was speaker but there's more work to be done. It's still not where it needs to be. It's still a top of mind issue for so many people. It'll be a day one priority, property taxes, insurance, electric rates. Bringing those down will be a top priority for me as governor. Well, and I certainly think that's very important. The idea, though, that the major networks wouldn't cover this is really obscene to me. There is a candidate, like you said, who gets all this time, free time on television. And even as a, basically as a co-host of these programs,

And they don't allow the public to see you or other candidates. And that to me, as a person in media and in broadcasting, I always attempt to give fair, you know, equal access to all the people who ask. You know, it's been shocking to me that Representative Donald's has been on my show once. He doesn't care, could care less, and he doesn't realize how many Floridians are listening. Yeah, and I would tell you he should absolutely be on your show. And so should be others that they want to be. Because with comparison, voters will make the right choice. They will vote for the person that has a deep experience, the results, the vision, and who led when others wait for the fight to come to them and has led and gone to the fight. And that's me on all four counts. And so more communication, more information, more comparison is what we need. As Republicans, we used to believe in free competition and merit and things like that to make sure we have the best possible candidate to go up against the Democrat. And it's a dangerous thing to try to fix the system or rigged where only one guy can win. And then you see what happens in some of these general elections where some of our nominees have imploded. Exactly. You said it exactly the way I have said it in the past. All right. Where can people get more information? Where can they see you, meet up with you, talk to you? Sure. We'll go to vote renter.com, V-O-T-E-R-E-W-N-E-R-N-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-E-R-E-E-R-E-E-E-R-E-E-B-E-E-E-E-E-R-E-E- Sunshine State, I call it the no showdown as it happens because there's no debate. I'll be speaking at 3 o'clock on Saturday down at the Hard Rock and Broward. And we'll be doing some events at the event at Vicki's Bakery and then Weston and some other events with a Catholic organization on Monday down in Miami to really just kind of get the word out on a number of different issues and talk about the campaign and why I'm the right guy to be your next governor. Absolutely. So it's vote renter.com. Thanks, Paul, for coming on. Appreciate your time. Thank you, Joyce. Great to be here. All right. You take care. Now, I'm serious. I don't understand how people in media get away with it. I am insistent that whenever somebody comes on my show, I immediately... you know, expect to hear from their opposition candidate. And I have not in this race, which is stunning to me because it tells me that the opposition thinks they have it all sewn up. And, you know, that's scary. I don't think anybody should feel that way. I think everybody should have to earn every single vote that they get. And the only way you can earn my vote is to tell me what you stand for them, what you're going to do for me. I don't care if you're charismatic. I don't care if you're good buddies with, you know, Marco Rubio or Donald Trump. That means nothing to me. What do you bring to the table? How are you going to lead the state? What can I expect? Is my pocketbook going to be affected? Because if not,

then, you know, then you're not going to get my vote, that's what. Anyway, obviously, you can see who I'm going to vote for in the primary, but listen, I'm always open if anybody wants to talk. Don't forget coming up after me is Guy Benson, followed by Will Kane, and it's the, well, no, then it'd be Joe Pags and Lars Larson, the overnight guys, until 6 a.m. when Jennifer Ross and Stephen Dean are come back with the South Florida Morning Show. followed by Brian Kilmeade at 9, Eric Erickson at noon, and the wacky female at 3. That would be me. But I still have a segment left in today's program, so please stay right where you are. I tell you, the left is so stupid sometimes. I'm sorry. I shouldn't use that word, but there's no other word to describe how clueless like Joy Behar is, right? She was making this case the other day. I saw a little, whatever you call those, not memes, but a little real, where she was saying that the reason Democratic Socialists won in New York is because we already have embraced democratic socialism. And she talked about, you know, the fact that we have garbage pickup regular and, you know, fire departments. And she thinks that is democratic socialism. No, no, no, Joy, that's taxpayer-funded services. You know, social security is not democratic socialism. She tried to make that case. Unemployment insurance is, no. The people who pick up your garbage, no. The people who take the fire hose out when your house is burning. No. Those are not socialist ideas. And just because three socialist candidates won the primaries in New York, I think you might want to rethink your position about us already being socialist. And she said, the stupidest line was she said, if I fall down, I want an ambulance. And if my house is on fire, bring a hose. Okay. But taxpayers fund those programs. They didn't take my money and give it to somebody else. They took my money to provide services for me and my family. And yes, other people in my community. It was bizarre. But it was people were excoriating her on X. You know, she just doesn't understand. First of all, not many people praise Social Security because most people understand that it's virtually bankrupt and there are all kinds of target dates for when it will not be. Able to pay the bills. You know, I think about that often. I remember I used to get in trouble when I'd go on the air and say, why does so-and-so get a social security check? You know, I think I picked on like John McCain and certain other people because I said they don't need the money, you know, but they put the money in, was explained to me, therefore they're entitled to it. And it is not.

something that they didn't contribute to. If you don't contribute to Social Security, you don't get Social Security. So it's not the same. Public services are not socialism. Control of private production is socialism. Okay? But they don't learn this stuff in school. But this is proof. Joy Behar is proof. Why you should not want democratic socialism? Because our education system lets people graduate from multi-years in college thinking that. And those services cost money. And if you think you can pay for them by fleecing rich people and thus eventually reducing the tax base when the rich people run away, you're wrong. It's not going to work. Jesse Waters was really on a rant yesterday. I think it was on the five that my husband was watching where he was talking about, you know, he lives in New York. I think all those hosts either live in New York or D.C. And, you know, he was scared. He said, this is dangerous when you have a communist takeover. one of the largest wealthiest cities in America. They're going to come and they're going to run all the people of substance, all the people of wealth out of New York. They're going to abolish ice and empty prisons. That's pretty scary. You'll watch the greatest city. be destroyed if it doesn't rise up and fight back. Because those people who won these races, they can go on to, you know, win the governor's mansion or become a senator or attorney general. That's how it happens. These guys run these power centers in Chicago, in L.A., in New York, and all of a sudden, They're populating all the higher offices in those states. And everybody else has to sit back and do nothing. They're coming for the people with wealth. They're coming for people who are patriotic. They're coming for people who are faith-driven. It's not socialism. It's communism. And you have to win this battle. I tell my friends in New York, but most of them are on the wrong side of this issue, that if you don't stop this now, if you don't crush this now, civilization will get destroyed in this country because New York is just the canary and the coal mine. When you have politicians who tell you up front, we're going to steal from you, if you're rich, we're going to take your money away from you, you will drive all of the wealthy people out of your state. Even the Attorney General, the knucklehead, Letitia James criticized the results, said she was very disappointed by the level of influence Zohran Mamdani and his candidates had. Because she's an old-fashioned, and she's liberal.

But Democrats are frustrated with their own party. What are they going to do now? They can't blow it up. It's at war with itself over the socialist wing and the cracks are just getting bigger. You know, these are not your regular Democrats anymore. So I thank you for your time this time. Until next time, I have a plan. And that plan is to be back here tomorrow at 3 o'clock if it be his will and he delays his coming. Remember that what lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. So wherever you are, just be yourself. Everybody else is taken. And then pay attention, whether you're in New York or you're in Fort Lauderdale or even if you're in, you know, La La Land, L.A. Pay attention because our country is on the precipice of ruin. I still say, God bless you. God bless Israel. And God bless the USA. I'll see you all tomorrow at three. This has been the Joyce Kaufman podcast. Available everywhere you get your podcasts.