Vicki McKenna Show - The Troupis Case Documents Have Been Unsealed

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allegations of forgery. It's obvious to everybody with a brain. It's obvious. You know what? It's obvious to everybody in the media as well. It's obvious to every single one of you people who have been lying about this case. You know this. You just hate Trump more than you care about putting innocent people in prison. You just hate Trump more than that. That makes you bad people, just so you know. You're bad people. You're not good people. You're not virtuous. You're not doing anything to save the country. You're just bad people who want to see innocent people put in prison because you hate Trump. That's Josh Call. He wants to put innocent people in prison because he hates Trump. He's also got handlers who are ordering him to do this. These are not decisions being made in Wisconsin. These are being decisions that are being made in Washington, D.C. They are ordering Josh call to do this. And so he's doing it. So let's get to this judge, Judge Highland, Judge John Highland, this is what has been revealed because the documents have now been unsealed. John Highland illegally had ex-judge. Frank Remington write his opinion. Pre-judge this case. Worse, Remington's kid is a clerk for Judge Highland. Ex parte communication, illegal farming out of opinions and information. This is at the very... best judicial misconduct. Other judges have been punished for judicial misconduct for doing this, but not Judge Highland. He is not going to dismiss this case. He is not going to allow the defense to have the case moved to a non-rigged jurisdiction. Any jurisdiction outside Dane County, any jurisdiction outside Dane County, this case would have been dismissed. That includes Milwaukee County. because it's that obvious how rig this is. But in Dane County, they want you to know that the Dane County court will not give conservatives a fair trial. That's what they want you to know. Judge Highland wants you to know that. Josh Call wants you to know that. They want you to know because he's not going to allow the case to be moved. He is not going to step aside on this case despite the fact he's been conspiring with an activist ex-judge. to rig this case. Oh, I'm totally impartial. You're a liar. You're a liar. But they don't care. Nobody cares. They want people to know. You cannot get a fair trial in Dane County. That's what they want you to know. The Dane County Court is rigged. Who else is it rigged against? If it's rigged against... Jim Troopus, who's a former judge in Dane County. A former judge. If it's rigged against a guy of this character, impeccable character, who else is it going to be rigged against? This doesn't bother the media at all. You don't think maybe your pet victim classes?

might find themselves on the wrong end of a rigged court system? You should. That's what Highland wants everybody to know. You are not getting a fair trial in Dane County. Any, I wish we could test this. I'd love to put this to the test. Any other county in Wisconsin, this case would have been gone in August. It would have been gone out of the gate. But you see, the reason why Josh Call is doing this, the reason why he handpicked Dane County, the reason why Frank Remington, an activist ex-judge, left-wing activist ex-judge, is writing opinions. By the way, it also suggests that John Highland isn't intellectually capable of writing his own opinions, doesn't it? The reason why this is all happening is because the orders from lawfare on high at the DNC say we need to put Trump on trial in August. We need to put Trump on trial. And we're going to do it with Jim Troop is Ken Chesboro. Mike Roman is proxies. There are proxies for Trump. We need this because we think we have a chance to win the midterms. And there is going to be nothing that will dissuade the Dane County bench. from rigging cases to help Democrats win the midterms. That's how bad it's gotten. When I come back, Matt Kittle, who has been doing an enormous amount of heavy lifting on this story as well, is going to join me on the program again from the federalist. So stick around. We'll be right back. And welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. I'm mad. Because only in Dane County can you get away with this stuff. This is Soviet stuff. This is what happened in enclosed dictatorships. When you have a rigged, this is what the Dane County Court is saying. We rigged it. We know you know we rigged it. And we don't care. That was yesterday. When Judge Highland, when confronted with overt impropriety, says, ah, screw you. Matt Kittle at the Federalist and I were on the air talking about this yesterday before those documents were unsealed. I don't know who got them unsealed. For all I know, this was a gambit by the, the Wisconsin DOJ. And of course, the media will carry water. Matt, for these lies, as they have been since the beginning of this. But basically, you had a judge, not do his job, use his clerk, who is the son of an ex-judge activist who's on the record for hating Jim Troopus, funnel the information so that the ex-judge outsider in illegal ex parte communication could write the opinion for him. That's what I'm to take from this. Yeah, this is a serious situation. There's no doubt about it. And when we talked yesterday, at that point, everything had been sealed. There were allegations, of course, of judicial misconduct. But, oh, Betty, you know, this is wide-ranging. This is a judge with a grudge.

according to these documents in Frank Remington, who was already, I don't think folks understand, he's already presided over a troopist civil case in this same manner and read, I beg you to read Frank Remington's decisions and rulings. He's the guy that was, you know, involved, the judge in the, in the Gableman. issue as well. This guy clearly has a grudge, you know, something to grind in all of this, again, based on these documents. And the issue is that Judge Remington, when confronted with exactly what you just laid out, said, go pound sand. And trust me, I will be fair. No, that's what Highland said. Because Remington. I mean, Highland, yeah, I'm sorry. That's what Highland. Highland said after being, you know, acknowledging. What Highland acknowledges is that Remington's son wrote a first draft on this. This is what he claims anyway. He had no idea about any of this sort of stuff. But at the very least. Outside entities in the judicial system in the state of Wisconsin need to be investigating this. These are very serious ethical allegation. There were some of the leading experts in forensic linguistic analysis hired by Troopants' attorneys. It wasn't Frank Remington's son. It was Frank Remington, or they wouldn't have brought these charges. They wouldn't have brought these allegations. If they couldn't tell if it was his son or it was Remington. And the idea that someone who's not a judge, not a judge, he's retired, he's not a judge, gets to be the deciding judge on a case he is not even legally able to be part of. and have Judge John Hyland say, yeah, that's totally on the up and up, even though it's not. And then say, oh, no, we're totally impartial. You can't move. You can't move this trial. I will not step aside. And we will not allow you to have an evidentiary hearing. Because that's what the troopers team wants now is an evidentiary hearing. Okay, fine. We'll put all our evidence out in public in a hearing. Hyland says, nope, you're not allowed to do that. Yes, and they should get that. That's where an honest Supreme Court would step in and say, hey, we've got a problem here. This is such a significant issue. Remember when the liberal-led Supreme Court had to step in on the Milwaukee County Judge Hannah Dugan case? Because what Hannah Dugan did to the ICE officials in... trying to, you know, send out in a legal immigrant that the ICE agents were trying to get. Even the leftist Wisconsin Supreme Court had to remove her from the bench because it was, those were such serious allegation.

This is the same thing. But what Jim Troopus and his attorney and the rest of these folks that are the target of this witch hunt have made clear is that they cannot get a fair trial in Dane County. They'll ultimately, I believe, if this thing goes all the way up to the Wisconsin Supreme Court, not get a fair trial there either. But this really does. mark the line in the sand for ethical breaches. Oh, I would, I would actually argue that what John Hyland has done, far exceeds what Hannah Dugan had done by a mile, by an order of magnitude, because one is obstructing. an apprehension action that's bad it's bad i'm not saying it's not the other is rigging a trial so that a guilty verdict is assured and the judge is doing it and the judge is doing it at the behest of the attorney general at the behest of josh call so this is an order this is several orders of magnitude worse this is soviet stuff this is stalin stuff And Dane County doesn't care that everybody knows it because 85% of Dane County is going to cheer it on. That's your jury pool, Matt. They're going to cheer it on. And the penalty on these fake charges of forgery and everyone knows their fake is for at least for Jim Troop is the rest of his life in prison. Yeah. These are criminal charges. Yeah, it's the exact same thing that we saw in a Manhattan courtroom in early summer of 2024 when they came back. You see, Donald Trump is a convict. He's convicted of crimes. He was convicted in a kangaroo court where the outcome was assured for his political opponents. This continues now. And I hope that that's, I hope Republicans. in Dane County, the few that exist. Well, actually, there are a number of Republicans in Dane County. They just don't vote. You know, I think Republicans across the state should realize what is at stake in 2006 because what is happening at the federal level with the judicial coup is going on in your backyard as well. Yeah, and I don't know where the party is on this. Now, the Dane County Party, the State Party, you know, everybody's posting happy pictures. Where are you people on this? Where, I mean, where, how about, how about lawyers from the RPW intervene here? How about somebody at the RPW file a complaint with the judicial commission? Because the only way to get rid of a circuit court judge, you can't impeach them. You can only do that appeals court and hire the assembly, because that would be ordinarily what you do.

You've got to file a complaint with the Judicial Commission and the Judicial Commission, which also likely would rig the game as well, then would forward the decision to the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Then the Wisconsin Supreme Court would weigh in. Or an attorney needs to directly ask the Wisconsin Supreme Court to intervene and put them on notice that they are going to be on the record for this. Because this is nuts. Let's go over this forgery claim. And by the way, folks, Jim Troopitz is going to join me in the 2 o'clock hour on my program. He's been green lighted to speak on his own case after all this information was unsealed. The forgery claims that Josh Call is making that John Highland, you know, actually who is nothing more than the Marionette for Frank Remington, says are actually legit claims. Josh Call is claiming that 10 people who signed their names knew they were signing their names on a real document, an absolutely real document that everybody knew was going to be a document submitted to the court. and to the Wisconsin Elections Commission. In fact, the document was drafted and submitted and signed because the attorney general himself said that's how you preserve your client's rights in an election dispute is a forgery. They're claiming that's a forgery. I'm not kidding people. That's what Frank Remington, through his mouthpiece, John Highland, at the behest of Josh Call, who is working on behalf of the DNC, has decided to charge Jim Troopus with forgery. Sorry, Matt. I went off there a little. No, no, no. The background is extremely important here, and the guy who brought this, as you mentioned before, is Josh Call, who is the puppet of the puppeteers in Washington, D.C. as a far-left attorney general, who, by the way, wants a third term. Keep that in mind. But I want to stress a point, Vicki, before we conclude our conversation, that I think is very important. I want to restress that. Frank Remington. The retired Dane County judge who was accused of writing the order that denied the motion to dismiss this witch hunt, Frank Remington, was the judge that presided over the civil matter in this case. And he did not, it did not turn out necessarily, I believe, the way he wanted it. which was to punitively punish the attorneys of Donald Trump. This is a continuation of that. Yeah. He's not on the case anymore, but he is. Of what happened. Yeah. Right. So that was one of the things that no doubt probably provided some measure of relief to the troopers team that Frank Remington retired. He was gone. We're not going to have to deal with this biased guy anymore.

And, but you do because he's, he's the, he's the wizard of Oz in the, in the, in the Dane County Circuit Court. He's the one that's turning the dials, making the images happen, writing the words. And he's using his own kid is a clerk to, to peddle the laundering. Let's call it judicial laundering. And incidentally, and I'll get into this more with Truppus, you're not supposed to have ex parte communications. You're just not supposed to do that. That's illegal. All of them. Judges have been removed for this. but not in Dane County because they want you to know that the system is rigged. They know you know it's rigged and they don't care. Matt's got a great piece, by the way, folks, at the Federal List. I put this up on my Facebook page and on X if you want to go see it. I am very hopeful that, you know, national media will pick this up, Matt, because you know who's not going to do it? Scott Bauer at the Associated Press. Well, they're going to do it, but they're not going to provide the context in all of this because they have a narrative that they want to sell. At the end of the day, this is a perverse Cyrano de Bergerac. That's what basically we have. We have Remington, the poet, the ugly poet speaking into the ear of the lethario. These are remarkable times to save the lead. Yeah, and if GOP, RPW attorney should be filing judicial commission complaints right now. Everybody should. Anyone can, by the way, but it would help if you actually had good lawyers doing it. Anyway, Matt Kittle, thank you very much for joining me on the program today. Great to have you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Bye-bye. And thanks for doing the story. Also, we thank Middleton Ford for sponsoring our hotline, family-owned and your good neighbor Ford dealership for nearly 75 years. I'll be right back. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. Another quick programming note here. Judge Jim Troopis is going to join me in the 2 o'clock hour. He'll be live in the 2 o'clock hour. So after lunch, come back on the radio show and we'll check in with Jim Troopis because I'm just going to let Judge John Hyland know the beatings will continue. And Frank Remington know the beatings will continue. And Josh called to know the beatings will continue until justice improves. All right. Got to move on, though. All right. I want to talk about the, and I'm not even sure how it came on, where all of a sudden, all of these corporations. instead of considering what was best for their shareholders, I'm talking about publicly traded corporations, instead of considering what was best for their shareholders, decided that they were going to use their shareholders resources to promote.

So every additional layer of bureaucracy that they can add, every ESG-DEI label that they can slap on a fund, they are incentivized to do so, right? And at the same time, we know that many of the leaders of these institutions actually do to at least some extent. embrace these policies, right? They go to the World Economic Forum. They agree that if we don't all stop driving cars, the world's going to end in five years, right? They feel sorry for all the children who have been born in the wrong body and think that if we don't immediately groom them, that they will all commit suicide. So they are also bought in, maybe not, and probably not, to the extent of the real radical ideologues who are essentially looking for revolution. the bottom up, I would say. But they are bought in to the left side of the ledger. I mean, one of the things that I look at very routinely is just political contributions of the core leadership. You can find this by going to the 1792 exchanges website. And some of these corporations, it's 10x, 11X going to the left side of the aisle, right? So they're already basically primed. They're operating at echo chambers where everybody at the table is nodding along when they say, yeah, net zero by 2030. Yeah, men and women's bathrooms. Yeah, I mean, it just goes on and on and on. So it's a confluence of forces. And I will say, and you alluded to this earlier, there has been a real message for a long time that they could ignore the right of center, right? Because conservative consumers were pro-business. and they weren't prone to boycott. And so you could basically just focus on the tiny sliver of radical leftists who would come after you and try to appease them, right? And this is sort of one of the stories that came out of the Occupy Wall Street movement. A lot of observers have sort of suggested that Wall Street basically struck a bargain to avoid the pitchforks coming after them to embrace some of these ideologies. But that has radically changed. I mean, the shift. that you mentioned, I think is in part you can drive it right down and pinpoint it to when America's mothers, a critical mass of them, concluded rightfully that they were coming for the kids, right? That these leftist radical ideologues were coming for the children. They were promoting these radical ideologies at the front of the store. You could not avoid it. And at that point, it seemed like the warm turn, so to speak. I don't even know if I'm using that phrase correctly. But basically, right, there was suddenly a ground swell, and you had Bud Light, and you had Target, and billions of dollars of shareholder value got destroyed, right? And then the domino started falling. Now, we still have a very long way to go, but we clearly are seeing evidence that these corporations are recognizing that they need to at least pull back. And that's one of the things that we're seeing. at the human rights campaign and the drop in sponsorship that they're witnessing. Yeah, leave the kids alone. They made the mistake of targeting and then bragging about it, about how they were going to sexualize your kids and try to trans your kids. You're right. I think that the boycotts.

Bud Light, Target, et cetera, I don't think anybody saw those coming. I don't think they thought they could be as powerful as they were. And so that perhaps began the cascade, but now it's everything. When it's great, let's talk real quickly. The latest is CBS. CVS, I know that Free Enterprise Project, part of the thing you do is shareholder activism where you are, you know, you act as proxy voters on people's shares that allow you to do this to demand resolutions. You know, don't support HRC, don't support, you know, eliminate this corporate equality index, all of this stuff. So that's one thing you do. But CV, and you've been targeting CVS, but CBS, it seems like sort of overnight, just went from ignoring Free Enterprise Institute and these concerns to recognizing they better pay attention to these concerns. And that is a story that's been repeated these last, you know, 11 months over and over and over again, which is pretty shocking and good, by the way. Yeah, I agree completely. I mean, I absolutely stumbled on it by accident. I was working on our proposal for this season, which is related and is essentially we're going to have a couple of places where we're going to file what we're calling women's rights proposals, which are basically saying when you as a corporation lean into transgender ideology, are you, in fact, informing yourself about the risks to women and women's rights? with the restrooms, the private spaces, the sports, the prisons, on and on and on, or are you just thinking, oh, inclusion, it's all good, right? So we've got that proposal that's going to be, you know, I think we've already submitted it to CBS. So along the way, I just wanted to double check and confirm that there's still a platinum sponsor of HRC, and it turns out they're not. Now, I never saw any news release suggesting that, so this is part of that sort of very quiet withdrawal where they're trying to reduce the risk. Because this is all about shareholder value on some fundamental level, right? They are, they have gotten over their skis. They're incurring far too much risk to the brand and to the stock price, and they're trying to walk it back, but they also are still scared to death of the leftist radicals. So they're trying to strike this happy medium and be very quiet about their withdrawal. But I think the reality is, you know, let's just take the medicine. Let's just step up and align yourself with the truth. and getting back to business and corporate neutrality. And if you're going to try to do this under the cover of night, if we find out about it, we're going to shine the light on it because this is also important, just like you and I are talking about it right now, the fact that I think from our quick scan, it's something like 35% drop in corporate sponsorships. Now, they're still probably complying with the survey, and many of them are still getting 100%. So there's still a lot of work to do. But just that alone is a win. Yeah, when you see what happened to Bud Light, nobody ever thought that you could touch them, right? You can't touch AB and Bev. But they lost $27 billion with AB dollars in market value. 27 billion. And 100% of that is traced to the boycott when they put Dylan Mulvaney on a Bud Light can. when they decided to attack their own customers. That was, I mean, you want to talk about a whiplash-inducing moment. They still haven't recovered. Now they're overpaying Peyton Manning to try to bail them out of the mess they created all the way back in 2023, and they still haven't unpacked at all. Target did the same thing. Target quietly changed. They probably should have advertised because they were getting hit as well when they decided to try to trans kids at the front of the store. So yeah, so there's a vibe shift.

That's what we're saying. There's a vibe shift. Now companies, at the very least, are not forward leading with BLM or ESG or, you know, CEI, which is also, when we say human rights campaign, that's the big trans, global trans organization. They're not, at the very least, they're not leading with it, you know. Which is, it's a net good. If 35% of companies have bailed on the CEI, that's awesome. Lots of companies have bailed on ESG. As I understand, BlackRock Vanguard State Street are not quite as enthusiastic about promoting that anymore, Stefan. Yeah, I think all of that is correct. And I'll tell you one of the things that I think is critical. We often hear the phrase astroturf, right? So something that looks like it's a ground swell of popular support is in fact purely manufactured and there's some huge donor like George Soros, right? But I really do believe that the Bud Light boycott was truly ground up because nobody would even think of trying to get that boycott going. Like no rich donor based on past experience would think. that a conservative boycott would even be viable. I mean, up until that point, those of us working in the space would say, sure, if you want to try to get a boycott going great, but usually the other things you should be doing. For us, for example, you know, working, focusing on these shareholder proposals. So it was a surprise across the board, just like you say, and I think that really goes to the truth that this was a genuine... common person, right? Middle America to a great extent, especially given that customer base, saying, whoa, this is crazy, right? So I think, yes, that that is critically important. It is definitely a pivot moment. We're still getting the effects about there is a vibe shift. But we also need to be careful about overstating our success, right? Because... Some of it's been walked back. Some of it's been rebranded. Some of them are still quite brazenly leaning in and proud of it. And you know that there's some pretty significant portion of the ones that look like they might have backed off that are simply waiting. They're simply waiting for a new administration. They're simply waiting for the dust to settle. And they're going to be right back doing what they were doing before. So we've got to keep doing the work. We've got to keep, you know, shining the light on these issues. You know, I 100% agree. That that is a concern. And we have not, I mean, you can't plant your flag and say this is a success yet. The activism has been working. We didn't think it could. So that is what we're talking about here. Keep pushing. And the vibe shift has to come from all different elements in order for a lot of these corporations. Let's go back to what you said in the very beginning, which was that a whole bunch of people are just like, yeah, inclusion. That sounds nice. A lot of companies are like that. They've just got sort of airhead corporate boards that don't think through the cultural stuff, the social stuff, the political stuff. And so that's what you want the vibe shift to shift. You want to shift sort of the airhead mentality in the C-suite from, hey, that sounds nice to, ooh, let's just keep it facts on file. We build things. We're just going to focus on that. You know, we sell motorcycles. We're just going to focus on that.

I think that's what a lot of this is improving, is it sort of the overall cultural vibe out there is shifting as well, Stefan. Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's one of the things that we really try to encourage corporations do. Like, I'll just give you one example. So some corporations are like, look, we're going to keep cooperating with the CEI. We're going to keep filling out that survey. Like, it's not negotiable right now. We're just going to keep doing that for whatever reason. And we're like, okay, fine. We think it would be better for you from a shareholder risk perspective to dissociate yourself. But if you're going to do that, then also fill out Alliance Defending Freedoms You Point Diversity Survey, right? Like the fact that you're doing the one but not the other is just such glaring evidence of bias. that needs to be addressed, right? So even if you're going to keep saying, hey, we want to keep a foot in this camp, because for whatever reason we think there's some advantage there, right, or we believe it, even, right? At least show some balance and neutrality by getting some other feedback, right? I mean, the number of corporations I talk to that just seem to get no right-of-center feedback is it's scary. And so that's certainly part of what we're doing is just trying to. to get a seat at the table to at least give them the perspective so they don't get but blindsided like Cracker Barrel, like Bud Light, like Harley Davidson, because they're getting blindsided. Stefan Panfield, thank you very much, Director of the Free Enterprise Project at this National Center for Public Policy Research. You can find more at national center.org. Thank you for joining me. Thank you so much for having me. Have a great day. You as well. And we will be back. Thank you to Middleton Ford for sponsoring our hotline as well. We'll be right back.

Welcome back to the program, the Vicki McKenna show. So the legislature has been busy, busy, busy, busy, busy doing the important stuff. I really need to do a kind of a collective update, a collection update of the important stuff the legislature's been doing. Let's see. We've had an attempt to ban emotional support animals, an attempt to legalize cigar bars. to rein in abusive potato farmers. Oh, and to ban schools from using margarine. The important stuff. So let's go over these, though, just because they're important. Important enough for legislation. Let's see. Looking up how many instances of abuse of the emotional support animal accommodation there have been, we just don't really have any data. There was one instance of a woman in, I think, this year trying to pass off a baby kangaroo as an emotional support animal. So, yeah, that was abuse of an accommodation. But generally speaking, we just don't have any data on that. But the legislature spent time, took public testimony, got it passed in both houses of the legislature, and then Tony Evers vetoed it. He vetoed that one. Um, cigar bars. Okay. Um, the smoking ban has been in effect for how long. The legislature just banned vape stores from selling anything that isn't made by big tobacco. And now they want a carve out for cigar bars. And again, I'm not against cigar bars. Um, or be, actually baby kangaroos is emotional support animals. I think, I think that's kind of cool. Uh, but anyway, um, so. Public hearings, testimony, passed both houses of the legislature, and Tonyavers vetoed it. Okay. At least you worked on it, right? Still waiting for the PBM bill. That one hasn't even been brought to the floor for a vote. That one's got the votes to pass and it's bipartisan. Two, like some of these others were the emotional support animals, the cigar bars. Well, then we get to seed potatoes. Seed potatoes. So apparently there are some scofflaws who are planting unregistered seed potatoes in Wisconsin. How many are there? There are two. There are two scofflaws in Wisconsin planting unregistered seed potatoes. Seat potatoes very important in Wisconsin. I don't want to wreck our potato crop, right? But there have been two people and for that. We got new seed potato legislation, bipartisan legislation. We're going to penalize seed potato scoff laws instead of $150. You're going to have a $5,000 fine per acre. All right? Both houses the legislature, public hearings, the whole shebang for two people, for two people. Okay, but whatever, you know, I'm for the potato farmers in Wisconsin. It's just important stuff here. I looked up how many instances of crop damage there were because of these two seed potatoes scoff laws, none. That's okay.

They did it anyway. There's some important stuff here. And then we get to margarine. This one is still percolating, still moving through the legislature. We want to ban schools from using margarine instead of butter. Ban schools from using margarine instead of butter. One school in Wisconsin used margarine instead of butter. And so now we have legislation to ban That one school and all schools from using margarine instead of butter. So again, we're going to have public testimonies, schedule those public hearings. It's going to go through both houses. to protect the dairy farmers. Because if one school, not one district, but one school swaps in margarine instead of butter, that could ruin our whole dairy industry in Wisconsin, right? Just like two potato scofflaws could ruin the entire potato crop. One lady with an emotional support kangaroo ruins it for everybody. And nobody's standing up for the smokers back in the day when the smoking ban was passed. Important stuff here. Meanwhile, we have a bill that would reign in the abusive practices of pharmacy benefit managers. Pharmacy benefit managers who are vertically integrated with insurance companies who are conspiring with drug companies to rig the price schedule for drugs in Wisconsin. It's happening. A kid died because of it. The nickname for the bill is called Coleslaw. Where is that? We know it has the votes to pass in the assembly. We know it has the votes to pass in the Senate. Democrats. Republicans. But to get it passed in the Senate, it's going to need Democrats and it has Democrats. To get it passed in the Assembly, it's going to need Democrats and it has Democrats. But it's just stalled. It's just stalled. It's just going nowhere so far. We're running out of time. I know why. I know why, though, because the more important things, margarine bands and schools and... raining in those two abusive seed potato scofflaws, punishing the lady with the emotional support kangaroo and working on behalf of the cigar smokers in Wisconsin, way more important. I know I have my priorities all out of whack. I'm going to take a quick break. You know, Brandon and I, we're talking, how cool would it be to be sitting next to the lady with the emotional support kangaroo? Come on! Talk about a conversation starter. Right. It's so cool. I'm totally serious here. There was, this always reminds me of this case. I want to say it was either 2003 or 2006. I think it was Dodgeville, Wisconsin. Someone found a unclaimed stray adult kangaroo in a barn. And I think it was in a snowstorm. Correct me on the details if I'm wrong. But why couldn't I have been the person to walk into the barn and see the kangaroo? All right. I'm just saying if somebody has an emotional support kangaroo, Tony Evers did veto that legislation. You can sit by me anytime. I will, in fact, you can, I'll hold your kangaroo.

I'll do it. I'll take care of it for you while you got to run to the bathroom. That's me. I'm your girl. Okay. Anyway, Curtis out standing by from Media Research Center. He's like, I did not prepare for a conversation about emotional support kangaroos. That's okay, Curtis. Thank you for joining me. No, I did not. I did not. I did not. In Wisconsin. Yeah, for real. For real, that happened. I think, and I want to say it happened in Dodgeville, Wisconsin, if you want to look it up, either 2003 or 2006. It was so long ago that my memory is fuzzy. Because this was back when we were reading the paper. Remember the paper? This was back when we had papers. Oh, I love. I still love the papers. I do too. I get a paper. I get a paper. I get a, I get the Epic Times. I get the print edition so that they can, I can give them money because I love them. Just, you know. The physical just, you know, it does, it's, you know, anyway. Yeah, something about the tactile, the feel of newsprint, in the smell of the print. Anyway, that's why we have Curtis on. We have Curtis on to talk about the coverage of Somali welfare fraud in Minnesota because there really hasn't been much of any Somali welfare fraud coverage from Minnesota. The man who would have been vice president is governor, his own 400. staffers in his Department of Health Services have leveled these accusations against him. He was clued in that this was going on. He let it happen and even facilitated it. And what has the media focused on Curtis? Let me guess. Was it the R word that Donald Trump used or perhaps calling Elon Musk Omar garbage? I'm going to go with A and B. Yeah, I was going to say those, the latter two there. No, let me break this down through last night. It could be a little bit more coverage this morning. The network just spent 36 minutes and 41 seconds on Somalia, the general topic of Somalia. But of that, only 31% of it, about 11.5 minutes were spent actually explaining why Trump was popping off about Somalis. and Ilhan Omar and all the rest. The rest of it, they're just making it seem like he's just been shooting from the hip. He suddenly had a thing about Somalis that he wanted to get off his chest, you know, dementia Trump, all this kind of thing that he's unhinged. He's just shooting off randomly about topics seemingly out of nowhere with zero context whatsoever. He's unstable and we must remove him from office. Yeah, that's it. So everything is about Trump. calling insulting Elon Musk Omar.

who, by the way, married her brother so that she could commit immigration fraud, come into the United States from a dumpster fire country and then rise to become a U.S. Congresswoman and somehow sit atop a fortune that I can only dream of ever having. Okay. And her payback to the United States is trying to destroy it. So Trump. popped off and called her garbage. And then with regard to the Somalis generally, he called Tim Walz, not Somalis, the R word, to describe his utter incompetence as governor of his own state. Well, and of course, yes, Tim Walz is not a model of stability. He's the guy who more recently, I believe in the summer, was basically saying, hope we get good news about Trump. Wake up one morning and find out good news, wink, wink, wink, nudge, that he suddenly had died in his sleep or something. That's what we're dealing with. And, you know, ABC is definitely the worst. Unsurprisingly, the George Stephanopoulos network with David Muir in the evenings. The man does not talk in complete sentences. He only talks in buzzwords. How many times can he say tonight in a 30-second span? They've only spent six minutes. on the general topic of Somalis in Minnesota, but only 7%, 25 seconds, was about fraud. Wow. And with the coverage this morning from him, it's going to go down. We're talking $8 billion, potentially $8 billion. You've got Scott Bessent, the Treasury Secretary, investigating this. So the U.S. Treasury is investigating this. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. If a trailer park was doing this, Vicki, of white people, white trash. You bet your life they'd be all over this. We also had a woman in Ohio who's now been receiving death threats because she wanted to say, by the way, they're committing welfare fraud in Ohio. You might want to take a look at Ohio. She's got no coverage. There is reports now from southern Minnesota and northern Wisconsin where there are food manufacturing facilities that there are sanitation problems because of the outsized number of Somali migrants. who have been hired there, no coverage whatsoever. Again, no coverage whatsoever. Here's the thing that's interesting, Viggy. You know, they try to say that, like, oh, what's happening here? The people that were charged here are not reflective of the entire community, the dozens of people. Okay. But then they say also in trying to defend the Somali community, oh, this is a very tight-knit group. You know, so what is it? very tight-knit and everyone knows everyone, or, oh, these are just random bad apples. These are bad actors. This is going on in Maine as well. News Nation has been all over this. Right, right, right. With Somali welfare fraud. You know, again, in Tim Walz gave the funniest answer on Meet the Press a few weeks ago when he was asked about this, and he said, well, it's because we're a generous date. Oh, yes, generosity means fraud. Like, what? What?

Churches aren't victims of fraud left and right every single day all the time that you hear about in the news because while many churches are generous, they also kind of keep track of their money. Right. Most of them do. So the DHS in Minnesota keeps track of its money. Its employees knew what was going on. There was a petition that was signed by 400 employees. Now that's pretty shocking given that Minnesota is a blue state. That's not one or two. 400. I don't know how many people work at DHS, but that's a lot of people. You would imagine as well that most of the government workers, just like everywhere, are going to lean left, right? They're probably, the lion's share of them are probably blue voters. And they signed a petition saying, we told him about this. He did nothing. He's essentially turning a blind eye, which is facilitating this fraud. Now there are estimates that it could be in the almost double digit billions. Nothing. Do they cover that? Those 400 employees who put their necks on the line to say, we knew about this. We tried to get attention to the fraud, to the governor, and nobody did anything about it. Yeah, it's remarkable. Yeah, and in my latest at NewsBusters, you guys can look for Network Somali coverage update, ABC, NBC spend only 21% on Minnesota fraud because CBS, the Bari Weiss Network, through the end of last week it was about 50 plus 1, 50.1% was on the fraud, actually explaining what's going on. It's gone down to 45%. But the point being, it's still about equal. You know, they're actually giving context to why the president's talking about Somalis. But the other two, they just don't care. They don't care. Because, you know, and I just go, this goes back to something my friend Kaylee McGee White on Fox News said. The left tried to drag her on social media because she pointed out that, I mean, a lot after the National Guard ambush, that a lot of these cultures, people that are coming in through mass migration, their cultures are incompatible with America. I'm sorry. We should do how much time has been spent on unvetted Afghans. That's another thing. None. How about none? By the way, they're saying, well, let Bari Weiss do it. We hate Bari Weiss now. She used to be a card carrying member of, you know, of the liberal, you know, homogeneity. But now she's not. She, golly. She thinks that maybe you should actually provide some context or objective news coverage on these things. So we hate her. So let Bari Weiss do it. Let her do it. But on Afghanistan, you know, how much coverage, even back when the collapse happened, how much coverage was done on the non-veting? So that, you know, I forget how many. I think it was about 5,000 were airdropped into Wisconsin. They have no way to assimilate in our state. None. Nobody covers it. Nobody says anything about it. No one goes up and says, I wonder how it's all going up in, you know, central and northern Wisconsin. But, you know, nothing. Well, no one's covering. There's some.

There's some that have been very grateful that at our church that our church has done in the D.C. area, McLean Presbyterian Church has done a great job helping folks. But, you know, that's only a couple dozen, maybe a few hundred that are actually, you know, grateful, willing to, like, come to America. Then America's given them so much, you know, kind of like other immigrants that we've seen from, like, Latin America, you know, like Cubans. But by and large, a lot of them, as we've seen with this case, what happened in Washington, D.C. was someone who just whose cultures did not just... jive with America and what's going on with Somalia is indicative of that as well. It's so closed off now that we can't say anything because it's racist. Well, tax dollars are being stolen out from under us and it trickles out to the federal level. It trickles out. This isn't just like, oh, Minnesota has a problem with billions of dollars taken. You know, Vicki. I mean, the federal government is just a giant pass-through scheme with... our tax dollars to then be given to the state. That's why Illinois is fighting so hard with ICE and all these blue states to keep illegal immigrants in so that when the census comes around in five years, they can still keep their seats in Congress so they don't lose money. Exactly true. That's an important piece of subtext that has never mentioned is that there's a reason why you have these blue state with, you know, dense urban areas with lots of, you know, illegal migrants. You don't want to get rid of them because that's your power in Congress. That's in your power in Congress is money to your state. Period. So, you know, you're not going to get as much social service money, welfare money, Medicaid money, any other types of federal pass through social service money. You're not going to get it if you have fewer people. And if you have fewer representatives in the house, it's just the way it goes. So this is money. It's power. And so the dysfunction is functional if you're Tim Walz or if you are the news networks because it helps to cement democratic power. Absolutely. I mean, that's really what this is all about. It's about power and maintaining dependency, you know, with vis-a-vis a group of people. And, you know, they don't really care about their livelihood. That's why Tom Homan gets so passionate in talking about the human trafficking and the immigrants that, you know, people that are being found dead stuffed in a shipping container on the side of the highway because, you know, what's happening here with these drug cartels and the left trying to...

incentivize people to come here illegally. It is a tragedy. We can mourn the loss of life that, you know, they have no respect for, you know, dignity of others. No kidding. Well, I'd be curious to know, and I haven't looked this up yet. What's the coverage been like on the illegal alien non-domiciled CDL problem? Because you were just mentioning that case of those 23 people who were found in the shipping cabin of a over-the-road truck, and the CDL license was handed off to an illegal alien. So, I mean, virtually none on that as well. You're just not getting... the news if you watch the news. That's why you have to go to Media Research Center and NewsBusters.org and follow Curtis Howe. Thank you very much for joining me. Always pleasure, Vicki. Take care. And we're going to take a break on the Vicki McKenna Show. Thank you, Middleton Ford, for sponsoring our hotline. I will be right back. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. All right, standing by is, gosh, I hope I say your name right, from Landmark Legal Foundation is Matthew Fories. Matthew, am I saying your name right? Oh, good. I got it right. Outstanding. All right. Thank you for joining me and thank you, Middleton Ford, for sponsoring our hotline. I want to talk about what's being called, for short, the slaughter case. This is the name of a person, by the way, not a description of an event. This is a case that the Supreme Court just heard oral arguments on and a lot of attention. has been paid to Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson's comments and questions about this particular case. So what is this case? This is a case, you know, that's being brought by someone. Trump tried to fire on the FTC, but what are the arguments? Sure. So Trump fired Rebecca Slaughter and she's one of the commissioners of the Federal Trade Commission. But the statute saying, excuse me, creating FTC. says commissioners can only be fired by the president for cause, not just because they had policy differences. And so Humphrey's executor is a case from 1935 that held that these types of removal restrictions were constitutional. And that led to the rise of independent agencies. And those are the government entities that aren't fully accountable to Congress or the president. So in the oral arguments this week, the majority of the justices seem poised to overturn Humphrey's executor. And this would be a major victory in the taming of the massive and unelected fourth branch of government. It would reassert the power of the president to fire principal officers in the executive branch and thus enforce the Constitution's separation of powers.

So, and it would stop presumably Congress from, you know, creating these things and then they become super agencies and we can't touch them. And I'm thinking the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, you know, which it's just there and we have, and Congress and the president have to do what it says. Federal Trade Commission, Federal Election Commission, et cetera. So basically you have a whole bunch of partisans who claim to be nonpartisans and basically can never be fired unless somebody proves. that they stink at their jobs. Right. The term in the statute is inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance in office. And so imagine, like, the Department of Defense, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State, if the President disagreed with what those Senate secretaries were doing, just didn't like their policies. but couldn't fire them unless you could prove that, you know, they had been taking money from taking paperclips home or had just been doing a bad job, not just a difference in policy, right? So this is a restriction on the president's ability to run the federal government. So why are these agencies so important? That's a, that's a curious question that I have. Why, in Gaddaji Ketanji Brown Jackson was suggesting that what are we going to do? All the, quote, experts might get fired. We need the experts. We need the scientists. But, you know, we need all of these people. Well, I mean, why is the Department of Defense less important than the federal housing finance agency? You know, why is the Department of the Secretary of State or the State Department less important than the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? The Consumer Protection Bureau needs to have, you know, this overlay of four cause only, but not the State Department. Right. And so. It was funny hearing that from Ketanji Brown Jackson because these are the same people who are always talking about preserving democracy or, you know, when you see people marching in Madison, the pink hat saying, this is what democracy looks like. Well, having insulated government agencies is the opposite of political accountability. It's the opposite of... what they claim they're striving for, right? So Jackson was talking about the point of the FTC was to have government by experts, and in that way, Congress was trying to work in the people's best interest. But as a landmark discussing our brief, this promise of experts has not occurred in practice. So there was a challenge to the Humphrey's executor last term involving the Consumer Product Safety Commission, right? And we noted in that situation... At the time, all with the CPSD's commissioners, not one of them had any education related to product safety. Every single one of them, every single one of them. There was a liberal arts major with a law degree, and they had been a congressional staffer before serving as a commissioner. So this idea that we need these people in place for these long terms to keep government steady and run by experts.

It's just not happening. They're staffed by the same kind of political point to use as we see elsewhere in the government. You know, and as you're talking, I looked up all of the different independent agencies that would be covered under the decision one way or another that is going on, that is going to come sometime in 2026. You know, you can't fire the people at the Denali Commission, whatever that is. infrastructure and economic development in Alaska. Can't fire those people. You can fire the Secretary of War. You can fire the Secretary of State, but nobody in the Denali Commission. No, no, no. You cannot fire anybody at the CIA. I didn't know that. The Appalachian Regional Commission, Amtrak, the American Battle Monuments Commission. These are important things. The African Development Foundation. The Administrative Conference of the United States, which is apparently a bunch of people who talk about administration as administrators, you can't fire anyone at the Inter-American Foundation, the Merit Systems Protection Board. I mean, it goes on like this. There's like 50 of these independent agencies that are acting with others as a kind of super government. That's right. And what's interesting is not just on these little things. It was also on huge things like the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. They were regulating like over a dozen different federal statutes related consumer finance, right? They were able to issue a billion dollar fine. Okay. And the way Congress set it up in the wake of Sarbanes Oxley, a single director would be running this agency with a term longer than the president's term. So it was possible someone to be running this incredibly powerful arm of government and the president would get no say in who was running. And they write rules. They write rules that have the force of law. Congress doesn't sign off on them. They write rules that have the force of law. The National Labor Relations Board writes rules that have the force of law. There's a lot of these independent agencies who have extremely outsized authority. And you can't touch him. You can't fire him. Before we run out of time, there was some suggestion that Brett Kavanaugh was looking to carve out the Fed. Is that something that if this case comes down to obliterate that 1935 decision that they would try to make a little carve out for the Federal Reserve? Yeah, absolutely. So the Supreme Court is always very leery to tamper with the way government is funded when you get into taxes or federal spending. Okay. And they do not want to be responsible for any kind of economic upheaval that would occur if the Fed was abolished, for instance, or the Fed was somehow completely under the purview of the president. So there is a constitutional carve-out to this in that... Congress has power under Article 1 of the Constitution to coin money. And so the Federal Reserve Bank is distinct from these other agencies. Strong and constitutional argument can be made for that. And there's also historic precedence for this. The bank, the first bank and second bank in the United States back in the early 1800.

Well, yeah, I'm suggesting maybe people don't get too excited about the Fed. I saw some folks out there speculating that your dream of end the Fed could come true, probably not with this decision. I think that's probably going to stay that way. So generally speaking, though, it was the liberals versus the conservatives on the court that I guess I'm not sure why the liberals would just automatically default to government by experts. We know they like that. But I'm not sure why, you know, they were conjuring what sounded like not the smartest arguments in favor of it. So, you know, do you expect anyone to cross over? Maybe Elena Kagan to cross over with the conservatives in what is likely to be a majority decision to overturn that Humphreys decision you're talking about? No, absolutely not, unfortunately. And by the way, Elena Kagan is the smartest. She's the strongest advocate on the... the progressive side and the Supreme Court. And she was taking the logical end of what the Trump administration was arguing, like, if there is this very broad power to fire everybody, would that mean that the president could fire everybody in the Department of Education? So that was kind of the sky's falling argument. Unfortunately, Trump's lawyer, the Swisher General, Mr. John Sauer, did not do a great job of covering that. But ultimately, there's this distinction in the Constitution between principal officers who require appointment from the, you know, there's the appointment process through the Senate and then inferior officers. So it is a little bit different when you go that way. But as we talked about earlier, the strongest argument on the conservative side was, what's the logical end of this independent? Why aren't they able to carve out, excuse me, make new multi-member agencies running the rest of the cabinet position? Yeah. And ultimately, you get back to the Constitution, the framers got together and decided to invest all the presidential power in a single person and not in a committee. So this has been an attempt to almost revive that to create executive branch commissions. So if Trump fired everybody in the Department of Education, a whole bunch of people who voted for Trump would be very happy about that, but it doesn't sound like that is going to be in the offing either. This could be good. I'm thinking of National Labor Relations Board, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. I'm thinking of the bigger agencies that could potentially be a whole lot different after this case. And that kind of is what's getting me sort of jazzed. But again, just to kind of put this to bed. I'm not going to end the Fed. Brett Kavanaugh just basically said that. He doesn't want to end the Fed. It's not going to probably happen. And everybody at the Department of Education is going to keep collecting paychecks and doing absolutely nothing important. So I appreciate the time, Matthew. Thank you so much for joining me on the program today. Thanks for having me. And if you want to learn more about us, we're at landmarklegal.org.

All right, the kangaroo story has been driving me crazy because it's this old story from Wisconsin. So I had to look it up. So it wasn't 2003 and it wasn't 2006. It was 2005. I'm giving myself credit for getting it in the date range, though. And yes, it was a kangaroo found in Dodgeville, Wisconsin. Multiple reports had been coming in that people saw a kangaroo in Dodgeville in the wintertime. And the authorities, most of them, thought it was just pranks. But the Iowa County Sheriff, I've actually got the Iowa County Sheriff's name at the time, Steve Mitchick took it seriously, organized a search for this mysterious kangaroo that's hopping around Dodgeville, Wisconsin. And indeed, organized a posse. He says here, he organized a posse of a dozen deputies, firefighters, and volunteers used apple slices as bait to lure the kangaroo into a horse barn on a roll farm south of Dodgeville. They had a tranquilizer gun ready but didn't need it. Dodgeville fire chief Jeff Weber joked later, quote, it was easier than getting a cat out of a tree. The kangaroo nicknamed Rue, how clever. was in good health despite the cold, was taken to the Viola Zoo in Madison for a quarantine, seemed well cared for accustomed to humans. No owner ever came forward. It died at the Vilas Zoo of a natural death in 2008. So there you go. Nobody knows how it came to Dodgeville. Nobody knows who owned the thing. But it was rescued by the valiant efforts of the Iowa County Sheriff's Department and Fire Department. So good on them. That's a real story. I say that to people and they think I must be making it up. Everybody. So, you know, here's just pro tip. Exotic pets are no good. They're just, I know you like them. They're no good. They're hard to care for. You don't know what to do once you can't handle them. So just, you know, discourage. Discourage people, you know, from going down the exotic pet road. Very few people. Some can, but very, very few people know what the heck to do with those things. So I had a friend who had, it's still a friend, had a 16, 15 or 16 foot, ridiculated by them. Yeah. And lost it. And lost it. One day lost it. It turned up months later, curled up around the coils of the couch in the living room. So yeah. All right. I want to give you a quick preview of what's coming up at 2 o'clock. Jim Troopis is going to join me at 2 o'clock. We opened the show talking about the rigged Dane County Circuit Court. They want you to know it's rigged. This case is how they are advertising to you that it is rigged. A case that should have never been brought in the first place and once brought should have been dismissed out of hand. We'll talk more about the corruption of the Dane County court system. The system itself is corrupt. And what are some potential avenues?

for justice because it sure is not going to be at the hands of a judge in Dane County. All right, everybody have a great lunch. We'll see you back here at 2 o'clock on the Vicki McKenna Show. Good afternoon and welcome to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. Lots to get to on the program. But first, and I apologize for doing this, we have to do a tech check. Brandon. Can you hear me okay? Is everything still okay? Everything is still okay. All right. All right. So I decided because of the ice on the roads and the poor conditions of travel to do the program from my home studio. Unfortunately, I have a computer that says my hard drive. is going bad. So, yeah, I've got a standby computer in case things go sideways. I'm using my regular computer here, folks, but the hard drive might go. So Brandon will text me immediately. If that happens, bear with us. It will be, you know, 10 to 15 seconds of weirdness, but I'll reconnect probably with poorer sound anyway, because this is optimized for the microphone, this computer system. Okay, but anyway, we have tech problems. What else is? I reverse the polls. I swear. I touch a piece of electronics. I think I reverse the polls. You know, maybe a gap in time opens up somewhere. I'm not sure. Maybe all of the weirdness of the UFOs over the, you know, the eastern seaboard are all my fault. I apologize if that's true. All right. Well, we're going to get into one thing today, and that is a rigged court system that wants you to know it's rigged. And let me say that again. a rigged court system that wants you to know it's rigged. Yesterday I talked about Jim Troopus, who is my friend, but he's also Trump's former campaign attorney. He's also a former sitting judge in Dane County. Jim Troopis is a team of attorneys. Yesterday, we learned, filed a motion to have the judge John Highland removed from the case, have the case moved out of Dane County. and if not, have an evidentiary hearing on the claims that Troopus' attorneys were making. And the claims are as follows. Judicial misconduct based on the fact that Judge John Highland did not write the opinion in the Troopus case. He instead had his law clerk, Andrew Remington, who is the son of... Ex-judge Frank Remington seek out ex-judge Frank Remington to write the opinion for him and then passed it off as his own. Significant judicial misconduct. It was sealed as of yesterday. It has been unsealed. And the result of the unsealing is Judge John Highland.

refusing to remove himself, refusing to move this case outside of Dane County, and refusing to give Troopus' legal team an evidentiary hearing. Jim is on the phone with me, or actually standing by on an internet connection with me, to talk about this. Thank you for joining me. This is absolutely unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. But here we are. The Dane County Court is rigged and it wants you, conservatives, especially, to know you cannot get a fair trial there. And if you can't get a fair trial there, you're still stuck there. Hi, Jim. Welcome to the show. Good afternoon. Vicki, even by, I mean, I was communicating this to some of the elected officials. earlier today that even by Dane County standards, okay, you know, I've defended the court for a long time. I've defended the members of the court. I'm one of the guys who did that. And I can't do that anymore. And I communicated to a lot of people this morning that you cannot imagine any court anywhere. doing what John Highland did yesterday. And I'm saying this, you know, Vicki, some of them, oh, there's me not under, that I am very temperate in my remarks with regard to courts. I've had great, great respect for what judges do, having been one and having practice in front of them for nearly five decades. In this instance, there is. Absolute law. Absolute law. Indisputable law. It was applied just a few years ago in Milwaukee, but it's indisputable law in all 50 states. If you make credible allegations of judicial misconduct to a judge, that judge is compelled by the Code of Ethics. to step aside while the question of misconduct is addressed. For the lawyers listening, this is not recusal. This is disqualification for failure to comply with the laws that is absolute misconduct. Now, you have to have a reasonable basis to make those assertions. You know, people would do it all the time. When we received the August 22nd, our motion to dismiss was denied, we smelled a rat. Why did we smell a rat? Because no one we had talked to, liberal, conservative, whatever, believed. That all of our claims would be dismissed. That is that everything would survive a motion to dismiss. But then again, I said, well, we're in Dane County. But the rat really started to smell. We had five or six lawyers read the opinion. Far left, far left, far left, no conservatives. One conservative, I'm sorry. Every single one of them said to us,

John Highland did not write that opinion. John is an otherwise well-respected member of the judiciary, a well-respected member of the bar. He was a criminal defense lawyer for many years. So lots of people have seen how he writes. He is temperate. He never overstates. He writes in many respects like we would expect the best judges to write. In many ways, less vociferous than some. All of them. Uniformly, every person who knew John Highland, serious lawyers, said, John Highland didn't write this. That is not John Highland's voice in those words. Several of them said, That sounds like Frank Remington, the former chief judge of the circuit, well known for having held Michael Gableman in contempt. He had absolute contempt for Republican lawyers, absolute contempt for the system of elections. And he uniformly got the election cases. He got assigned them. So he was on almost all the election cases that came out of 2020 and before. And, of course, in 100% of those, he ruled against whoever was on the conservative Republican or Trump side. Often, as he did with Mike Gableman, holding him in contempt and trying to put him in jail. I mean, it was that crazy. And he sat on a case that was filed against me. And he made several truly ridiculous rulings. But, you know, that's Dane County. So what it was. I read it and that was my reaction. This is Frank Remington. I've known Frank Remington for 35 years, Vicki. He was at the U.S. State Department of Justice. We were on opposite sides of cases. Candidly, I had a lot of respect for him. I didn't agree with him very often. But so it goes. I had a lot of respect for him when I was on the bench. I mean, we sat in our offices were adjacent to each other. But for some reason, he harbored this hatred of me, or maybe it's just hatred of Trump, which really materialized after 2020. Okay. So let me. So the fact. Yeah. Let me get in here. Let me get in here for a sec. Yeah. Okay. So I just want to kind of some, just sort of, he wrote the opinion, just put this out here. He wrote the opinion, Frank Remington. He laundered that opinion through his son. Yes. His son is clerking in the Dane County Circuit Court for Judge Highland, an assisting Judge Highland. So Remington. launders his opinion through his son to be delivered secretly, secretly, secretly. Okay? And then, and then his son delivers the opinion to Highland, who I think we should say formerly well respected judge, delivers his opinion to Highland, who allows himself to be used as a puppet for Frank Remington, signs his name to it.

In the August 22nd hearing on your motion to dismiss. And let me make it really like you couldn't make this stuff up. When confronted a week or two weeks ago, so we first confronted the judge in chambers. with this, figuring, you know, he'll understand that he got used by Frank Remington and his son Andrew. And so he would simply know to step aside and we could start this over. But he specifically tells us then there's affidavits in the record. You can read him. He says, I hadn't even read the briefs when Andrew Remington came with a completed 50-page opinion. He hadn't read the briefs. He hadn't even read the briefs. And now he had a completed opinion. Um, and any, whoa, whoa, this, this, this deserves an exclamation point. The judge who will be overseeing your hearing on December 15th, John Highland, in chambers, when confronted with this information, admits he did not even read the briefs when he received a completed opinion from Andrew Remington. And now he's denying any of this happen. And we asserted, we said, he said, well, I, you know, I did, you know, look over the opinion and, you know, I agree with it and what have you, to which my lawyer said, well, yeah, we can identify the four exact places where you edited and only four places, essentially four or five sentences. Because our linguist, a Georgetown University emeritus professor in linguistics. Forensic linguistics, by the way. Forensic linguistics often works for people like the FBI and others. We went to the best we could find in the country. Because asserting this kind of thing is a big, big deal. So we spent a fortune to make sure what we candidly hoped wasn't true was true. And it turned out. The linguist had no problem at all. She said, well, it's obviously written by Frank Remington. And then we asked the question of this linguist, well, could his son have done this? And if you read the report, and it's there, you can read it. She essentially laughs at that. She said, no, his style is so dramatic and so well known. It is impossible for anyone to copy it sufficiently to avoid being caught by a linguist. And it is particularly impossible for a family member to do that. That it cannot be Andrew Remington. Serious and says it is Frank Remington. There's not a question who wrote it. He wrote it. So that's what we presented to the judge. A first in chambers several weeks ago to say, look, we don't want to embarrass the court. Again, I was a former member of the court. But, you know, even if you unwittingly did this. So there's plenty of speculation out there that Judge Highland didn't unwittingly do this. But let's take him at his word that he didn't know this. But wait a minute.

That doesn't matter at all. And he knows that. And he said that in chambers. He understands that the question for the court, when I say the court, I mean the judge, is does this, is there an appearance of impropriety? It's not whether they're biased. It's not the standard. Is there an appearance of impropriety when a judge? takes the work of a private citizen and passes it off as his own, the answer is as obvious as the question. Yes, it takes the work of a private citizen, Jim, but takes the work of a private citizen who has passed the information from the court in secret by a member of the court, an officer of the court, the clerk of the court, Andrew Remington, his son. And again, it's almost like you have this, you have Remington on your civil case and then he retires. And you're thinking, oh, thank goodness, we don't have to deal with Frank Remington anymore. And Frank Remington says, oh, yes, you do. You're not going to know you have to deal with me, but I'm going to get Judge John Highland to pass off. My writing is his and then pretend that everything's on the up and up. And there's no appearance of impropriety. Yeah, I mean, obvious appearance of impropriety. I mean, you can be completely. I could take Judge Highland, that is absolute word. It didn't affect it one iota. That doesn't change the question. The question is, does it appear improper when you adopt a private citizen's opinion? The answer to that is 100% of the time. Absolutely. Again, we have had judges disciplined for exactly that in the past. Everyone knows that. Every lawyer knows that. Every lawyer listening to this. Every judge listening to this has got to be appalled. But I'm going to make it worse. We know from these reports that it was Frank Remington who wrote it. We know from these reports that they did this, from our knowledge, that it was secretly transmitted, that there was a true conspiracy to make sure that the case against me continued. But then it got really unbelievably bad yesterday. In my entire history, I've never heard of this. I don't think anybody has. The judge with all that evidence, and folks, I haven't made anything up here. I haven't, I'm not embellishing anything. This is exactly what happened. The judge yesterday said, I'm not going to be biased. So you don't even get a hearing. I'm satisfied that there was no impropriety. I want you to think about this. I'm satisfied. I'm satisfied. I'm saying you're the one being accused of it. Right. Yeah, he goes to the criminal, the person who committed the evil act, the law clerk, I suppose. And law clerk says, I did not rob the bank. Okay, that's enough. We dismissed the case. That's what happened. That's what happened. No evidentiary hearing. So you don't get an evidentiary hearing. Why would the judge fear an evidentiary hearing? The reason is because he knows what it's going to do.

He knows in his heart he's wrong. He knows he's certainly in his heart that he had to hold a hearing. That until that dispute was over, he cites the completely wrong standard. He says, I won't be biased. That's not the question. The question is because if there's an appearance of impropriety, you're out of there. Judges are constantly recusing themselves for that reason, constantly. Every honest judge does not want to sit in a case where someone has accused them of impropriety. And even if they haven't done it, not allow that party to investigate and stop everything while that happens. This. Influencing the talk page, firstly, they'll try to hold by the US contact. Okay, I think we're losing a connection here. That's what I'm in. Oops.

Yeah, we're so excited. We're going to take a quick break and I'm reset. All right, we're live again. All right, we're live again. What happened there wasn't my computer crashing that was static in the producer's studio. That's what that was. All that crunchy stuff. That was, folks, that was just static. That wasn't Vicky. I didn't touch anything. I swear. I did not touch anything. All right. So the static problem won't happen again. The hard drive still might crash, but we should be in fairly fine shape. So what we're going to do, though, because I want to have another more extended opportunity to finish up with Jim Troopis, it's just reset here from those of you who are just joining us. I'm talking with Judge Jim Troopis. We're talking about the Dane County court system, the only court. that would not have thrown this case out in the beginning, the Dane County court system rigging the game so that you can't win it. And they want you to know it. They want you to know it. So in the case of what is happening with Jim, The judge who has overseen the case prosecuting him, Josh Call prosecuting Judge Jim Troopis for doing what Josh Call said to do. We're going to get to that after the quick break, all right? For doing what Josh Call said to do. The Attorney General said, get a slate of alternative electors. So you can preserve the rights of your client, which is exactly what they did. And now Josh Call is prosecuting Jim Troopis. for felony forgery, for getting a slate of alternative electors under the advice of the Department of Justice. That's the case, okay? Judge John Highland in Dane County has now just taken the material from an activist, left-wing ex-judge, not an officer of the court, passed it off as his own. Everybody found out about it. It's illegal. He should allow an evidentiary hearing, but he won't do it because they have to rig this case. We'll talk about why they have to rig this case. The reason they have to rig this case is because they need to put Donald Trump on trial in August. They have to keep this case alive so they can put Trump on trial in August. ahead of the midterm elections. This is a political play, and they want you to know it. They don't care that you know it. They don't care that you know that the Dane County court system is rigged against you. They don't care. If anything, they're proud of it. We'll take a quick break on the Vicki McKenna Show and we'll wrap this up with Judge Jim Troopis. All righty. We are back. Welcome back to the program. Sorry for the static in the producer's studio.

I'm not taking any blame for anything I don't have to take blame for with regard to tech because everything I touch seems to short circuit. Okay, Jim Troop is standing by. So I said right as we were going into the other set of commercials, Jim, that they want you to know it's rigged. They want everyone to know it's rigged. And everybody does. And the Madison media is just playing along. And the Milwaukee media is just playing along. They want everyone to know this. The whole purpose of this is a national show trial ahead of the midterm elections. So that the Democrats have win to their back. rage to their back going into the midterms, just a month or two before the midterms. They are going to have an eight-week nationally televised show trial on this question. Did Jim Troopas commit acts of forgery by having a document that was recommended he draft signed by people who knew what they were signing? Is that a forgery? What a stupid case. Everybody knows it's a stupid case. Everybody knows it's BS. But they want that show trial so that they can be, so that everything is Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. I would be willing to bet you, Jim, that the prosecution doesn't even put on a case against you. It's all about Trump and January 6th and everything else under the sun. Right. You know, that's what they're going to do. How silly is this case? So they're literally saying the electors relied on me. I wasn't their lawyer. I never represented the electors. I never spoke to the electors, maybe incidentally, but every single elector testified, every single one of them said, we relied on our lawyer, who was a lawyer from a very large law firm, not me, an election pro, and a former Supreme Court justice, state Supreme Court justice, were their lawyers. So they tell that. They said, no, we never relied on him, not for anything. But that doesn't stop this Attorney General. This Attorney General told us on December the 1st of 2020 that there was zero chance that Trump would lose his rights to appeal so long as he used alternate electors. We used alternate electors. And I said to the Attorney General and the State Supreme Court in writing, in reliance upon what the attorney general has said our electors will meet. They had 24 lawyers on the other side of the case. Not one of them. Not one of them said, oh, he's misinterpreted that. Oh, he's wrong. No, because they all did the same thing. If they'd a loss on the other side, they'd had alternate electors. That's why they met. Let's tell them why. Because in the Supreme Court decision on the Al Gore claim, the election disputed, the disputed election of 2000, the Supreme Court said,

Your question before us is irrelevant because you didn't draft an alternate slate of electors. Which is why 24 left-wing lawyers did not object to anything you did because they knew that's why Al Gore lost or they believed that. Yeah, two members of the U.S. Supreme Court, including Ginsburg, you know, the most liberal of all, said, I'm disappointed that the Democrat lawyers didn't have, you know, essentially you failed to give us the right date. So as a consequence, we're stopping the recount in Florida. Had they given them the right date, which was January 6th, same as us, Al Gore would have been president. It's the most amazing thing that they talked about it in advance before the election. They tell us during the process to do it. And then at the last minute, after Donald Trump becomes the candidate again, and before Joe Biden has dropped out, they, Josh Call got his orders. We need a case in Wisconsin. And so that's what happened. Nothing I'm saying is made up. You can read all of this. Look up, Judge Troopus.com. We are hiding nothing. The state hides everything. They hide everything. They won't even give us copies of what they have yet. But we put everything out there. Go to judge trupus.com. You can read every document. You can look at the affidavit I just talked about that we know. Judge Frank Remington wrote the opinion. By the way, his son lives with him. Ex-judge Frank Remington. Exactly. You know, and it's like, I mean, you know, I was born in the dark, but I wasn't born yesterday. I mean, so when you see what the attorney general is willing to stoop to, and now what a judge of our circuit is willing to stoop to it, they won't even give us a hearing. They won't let us do discovery. They won't let us question. Andrew Remington, Frank Remington, and Judge Highland, the essence of due process. I want everyone to understand this. When you go to court, you have a right to examine your accusers. You have a right to examine when there's misconduct, the question of misconduct. Only in the Soviet, only in Dane County Court. Is that not allowed? And you said it accurately. They do this without any embarrassment. because they can get away with it. Now, I will tell you, we've reported this to the U.S. Department of Justice today. I hope that finally someone from the U.S. Department of Justice steps in and says, you can't have someone other than the judge issue an opinion, and you can't deny Mr. Troopus an opportunity to be heard. When you do that, you deny him his basic, basic due process rights under the U.S. Constitution. And that is a violation of at least two separate federal laws. There was what happened here was a conspiracy if we prove it. If it's proven, again, they won't give us discovery. So when it is proven that Frank Remington and Andrew Remington conspired to deny me a fair hearing.

That is a clear and unequivocal federal criminal violation. You cannot, that's what they did in the South in the 1950s and before. They would conspire together with clerks to not have cases heard or to not listen to the evidence or to not let you get into court. The anti-Trump people are so adamant now that what do you have to hide, Judge Highland? What do you have to hide Dane County? If you're not hiding something, then let's just lay it out and have a hearing and talk to these people. The only justification for not doing that is you know. You know what it's going to do and it ain't going to be pretty. Right. That's why you're not getting an evidentiary hearing because they know exactly what's going to happen. And they don't want Frank Remington under oath. And they don't want a clerk under oath. And they don't want a judge having to testify in this evidentiary hearing under oath. You said Josh Cole got his marching orders. And he did. He got his marching orders. You're not running for governor. You're going to run for AG again. And we're going to put Trump on trial and absentia in August with Jim Troopus as a proxy for that. That's your marching orders, Josh call. Highland got his marching orders too. He got his marching orders to, or no judge with any amount of self-respect, would have passed off a non-court official, a non, you know, member of the court's personal opinions as his own laundered through his son. And no, and his son knows the rules of that court as well. His son who lives with his dad has his dad. You know what we need to do? We need to get an opinion here so you can get it to Highland. And then he'll sign off on it. Are you kidding me? Are you blanking kidding me? Somebody just emailed me and said this. Why can't Jim get a lot of national attention on this? Why isn't this case blowing up all over the place? I wish to, you know, blank I knew. why that's not happening. I know Steve Bannon's been good to you and John Solomon's been good to you, but good grief. You know, I mean, every single podcast, every single national show, this is the whole point of this is to alter the outcome of the 26 midterm election so that the Democrats can pick up enough seats to retake the majority and impeach Trump. There's no doubt about that. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind at this point that this was explicitly to affect the presidential election. It was a pure political play in 2024 when at the last possible moment the case was filed. And now it appears to me to be the same political play because.

The laws that that literally were involved in 2020 don't even exist anymore. They won the election in 2020. No one lost any votes. No one lost out of this. We were unsuccessful. So there can only be one reason, and that is a political vindication. And they're sending a message. And I hate to say it, but the Dane County Circuit Court judge on this case is sending a message. If you're conservative, if you're a Republican, if you are a Trump guy, you will never get a hearing in my court. Not a fair one. And that is a sad thing for me to say because you have heard me dozens of times say, I trusted these people. I don't trust them. I don't trust them at all anymore. This isn't even, this is not a close question. We have expert reports from the finest experts in the country saying this was a fraudulent and false opinion that we never got a chance to know what we are up against in violation of our constitutional rights. That's allegation at this point. We have a right to prove it. And every judicial code requires that judge to step aside. But he wouldn't do it because everybody in that court said, go to it. Go to it. Anything we can do to strip Trump to the ground. Yeah, and if we got to kill, if we got to put Jim Troopers in jail, we're willing to do that because they don't care because you're not even human at this point. One last thing is I was told, and I just want to confirm this because we're running out of time, that if someone files a complaint with the judicial commission, RPW, hello, then the Wisconsin Supreme Court would have to take it up. against Judge Highland, correct? Well, the judicial commission has to take it up and then they pass it up, but also bar complaints as well because Frank Remington is a member of the bar, as his son, Andrew. So both judicial and bar complaints are both appropriate here if somebody wants to go ahead and do that. And by the way, in a normal case, the court would automatically forward those to the bar when there's some kinds of complaints, but I don't expect Judge Highland to do that. I don't think so. Jim, unfortunately, I'm out of time. I want to make an opportunity, give me myself an opportunity to say, Judge Troopist.com. Please learn more at Judge Troopis.com. Thank you, Jim. Thank you, Vicki. Good to have you. And we are going to take a break and be right back. Okay, only about, you know, a few seconds left here. Please pack the courtroom for Jim on Monday, December 15th, if you can. Yes, it's in Dane County. It's at the Dane County Courthouse. It's Branch 14. I don't know the room, but it's 9 a.m. should be fairly easy to find. And for Pete's sake, you know, RPW, Republican Party.

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