Vicki McKenna Show - Ethnic Studies Requirements

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But anyway, more on that coming up on the program. More on Josh Call, the puppet attorney general, who apparently has not asked for permission from his handlers to actually process forensic data at crime scenes. Get more on that as well. Obviously, the two mass shootings that took place over the weekend, I want to get into this on the program. One was in Sydney, Australia, where gun... ownership is highly, highly, highly restricted. You have to pass background checks and stand on your head and tap dance like Dick Van Dyke, where you're not going to get the ability to own hunting guns. These two men who murdered all of the Jewish festival goers at the Hanukkah by the sea attack. were investigated by the Australian authorities and international intelligence for having ties to ISIS, yet somehow they were able to get licenses. They among the very few people in Australia who could get licenses down hunting guns. Those are the two guys who murdered all those people in Sydney over the weekend. We've also got the Brown attack, Brown University attack. So far we have confirmation that a really... By all indications, really beautiful person, Ella Cook, who is the vice president of the college Republicans at Brown University, was murdered. One other student was murdered. We don't have that name. That was a targeted attack as well. It's a gun-free zone. We'll get into that coming up on the program. So lots to get to, lots to get to on the show. Let me just start here before we get to Scarlett Johnson, who is standing by to talk about the University of Wisconsin. I just want to share this. This came to my attention over the weekend. Speaking of Josh Call, the Attorney General Josh Call, who, as we detailed on Friday, is, I mean, 100 days or more behind and processing crime scene forensic data. A hundred days or more. It's taking months and months and months and months to get simple forensic analysis on things like drug tests or rape kits. That's because Josh Call hasn't picked up the phone and called his handlers at the DNC and asked if it was okay if he actually diverted dollars that are right now being dedicated to put my friend Jim Troopus in prison to try to hurt Trump to actually processing crime scene data. Crime scene. materials, drug testing, rape kits. Here's an example that just came to my attention from a friend of mine. He said, in a text to me, My son was involved in the arrest of an individual on December 30th of 2024, in which the suspect had ingested a large amount of cocaine and ultimately died in police custody. State crime lab did not come back with toxicology levels on the suspect's blood until September of 2025.

So remember, this is December 24. Finally, in September of 2025, Josh Calls Crime Lab coughed back the toxicology results. But meanwhile, those officers wrote a desk. Three Madison police officers who were patrol officers were sitting on administrative duty from December of 2024 until... December of 2025, because after the crime lab dragged its feet on a simple drug test on a deceased suspect's blood, Ishmael Ozahn didn't bother processing the information to release these three Madison police officers from desk duty. So they wrote a desk for a year. They weren't in the streets. They weren't making arrests. They weren't helping in investigations. Three Madison police officers sat on their butts. and pushed papers for a year because josh calls crime lab couldn't freaking analyze a simple blood test in a timely enough manner to release them back to street duty so if you wonder One of the reasons why you don't have the amount of coverage of the Madison Police Department you could. It's because Josh calls Crime Lab can't get its act together. And because the DA, who thought he'd run for Attorney General at one time, remember that, can't seem to figure out how to just process paperwork himself. So, toxicology tests are backed up, rape kit analysis backed up, forensic analysis, DNA analysis, you name it, because Josh Call has been ordered by his handlers in D.C. to prosecute Jim Troopers. So that they can have a show trial in August ahead of the midterms. But there's yet another way. The crime lab situation is having a direct impact on the safety of the people of Madison, Wisconsin. Now, we're going to take a break. We'll come back with Scarlett Johnson. Scarlett has got some very disturbing information to share about the University of Wisconsin. Madison. We'll be right back. And welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. So to Scarlett Johnson, we go, Moms for Liberty. Scarlett's been tracking something that's been happening at the University of Wisconsin-Madison that has received almost zero attention except by Scarlett because she's good like that. It says here, I'm just going from something you had posted on X, Scarlett. A Wisconsin mom showed me what her freshman son...

is studying at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in order to fulfill required, quote, ethnic studies requirements. What are we learning in ethnic studies? I talked about ethnic studies last week, only to discover that University of Wisconsin is among those that have this demand of all-income kids. So what is going on at UW Madison? Hi, Vicki. Thanks for having me on. Just the typical thing that they say isn't happening until you find out that it's happening. when a mom that has a freshman son attending Madison, and he sent her a screenshot of his homework. And this is a class that UW Madison has, like many other schools, where they have these freshman seminar requirements. And they focus on ethnic studies. There's usually three credits at least required, sometimes up to 12. And these kids are supposed to explore diversity. inequality in cultural perspective. One of the courses they can take Chicano studies, African studies, this is an Anthropology 104 course. And the text that they are supposed to read include white privilege unpacking the invisible knapsack by Peggy McIntosh. That's something that even my daughter. was supposedly required to read as a freshman when she was attending high school and until I raised holy hell about it. And then the white bonus by Tracy McMillan. And that was a new one. This is a new book that I hadn't heard of before. And in this book, these students are expected to accept as truth that white families receive a white bonus. of an estimated $371,000 minimum because of their race. It's not hard work. It's not that their grandparents built something of their lives. It's just the fact that they were white. And she basically claims that the white middle class have an automatic sidewalk quote for white families. It's completely offensive. Everything that under like these essays, this book, that these kids, mostly they're white kids. are forced to read. And then they have this prompt where they are to examine whiteness.

and then write a reading response about the system of privilege that they live in. And they're supposed to talk about their white privilege. So supposedly the white people, including, you know, poor people, poor white people, have a $371,000 bonus. And they, you know, nobody in their family succeeded ever for any other reason except that they were white, right? So that's what this is all about. See, here's the thing. Enough of this garbage. So this white teacher is being paid by the University of Wisconsin to tell white kids how horrible they are. You go on to explain as well to tell white kids that if their parents support Trump, if they support Trump or Trump voters in general, they're either racist or they're just confused victims. You know, and this is the kind of crap that the legislature needs to dive in on because this is. Actually against the law, Scarlett. It's actually against the law. This is a violation of not just executive orders that Trump has put out, but it's actually against the law. You're not supposed to be teaching racism in school. But maybe it's time now because there has been a growing backlash against this nonstop hectoring about people's skin color. You know what? Because it's not making anybody's life any better. It's only making one category of people feel like crap. Yeah, and you know the professors. Then let's look into the professors that are teaching this course. A doctorate in musicology, a concentration in ethnomusicology, and a certificate in American cultural studies. How the hell did she get hired? What is musicology? What is ethnic musicology? How do you get a doctorate in that? And this guy's white. Now there's a female with a social, cultural anthropology doctorate, African Studies Program. This woman is white. And she, her selected publications, the corporate alibi, capitalism and cultural politics of investment in Africa. I mean, you just go through their CV. And you're just wondering, how do these people get these jobs? What are these degrees? They sound like degrees in nonsense. And the only thing that they can do is teach our kids to be Marxists just like them. When you've got these degrees, what value do they have except for in Madison? So this is a required course, right? You have to, you can't skip this course and just say, this has nothing to do with a major that I'm, you know, maybe I'm an accounting major. I'm a mechanical engineering major. This has nothing to do with anything I'm studying. I'm just going to skip, you know, Polly Whitehood's class about, I'm just making up a name, about white privilege and how horrible all white people are and how horrible as a white male that I happen to be. And, you know, this nonstop racism, I'm skipping. Can't do it, can you? Yeah. And the, again.

This course focuses on mega and Trump. Basically, so if you have been raising your kids. to be conservative and mega. And they go to college and they think like you, they share your values. Like the first thing they're trying to do is destabilize that. They're trying to erase everything that you have worked hard for for 18 years and tell these kids, no, sorry, your grandparents are actually terrible. You're all racist. The fact that you're white means that you have unearned privileges and you need to feel guilty about that. And Trump is an evil guy. And either your parents are just confused and diluted or they're evil to. It's time for these kids to fight. All right. First off, it's also time for the legislature to stop kicking the cannon just writing big checks at the University of Wisconsin system. Enough of that. They got more money in the last budget. They've always got more money. They're always out. They promise they get rid of the DEI crap. Here's DEI as a requirement called ethnic studies. Are you kidding me? So enough of it. Either the legislature, the Republicans in the legislature actually start. calling out specific instances and cutting off money, which they won't do because they have no spine, because the handful of the ones that do want to fight this stuff are subsumed by the ones who would rather kiss the butts of the lobbyists who write money, you know, write big checks to rack. So that's got to change. Or these kids got to start standing up. See, that's the other thing, Scarlett. At what point? Do they stop farming it out to you or stop farming it out to me? Why didn't this mom say, all right, you're a big boy now. You tell your teacher to stuff it where the sun don't shine. Why don't you start asking about how this applies to people living in Appalachia who are basically living at subsistent levels, but who are white, who have been the long progeny of an enormous long genealogy of poor people. Make, you know, Polly McClanhood explain how her theory works in all of these instances. I mean, let's train some of these kids to fight back. Yes, I think that's why groups like YAF and Turning Point are important on college campuses so that kids can organize. And, yeah, you've got to tell your kids to fight back that it doesn't matter about the grade. And I know that you could say that's easier said than done. But at some point, truth matters and fighting for it even matters more than whatever grade you're going to get. And when you consider what just happened at Brown University.

where the first victim that we hear about is a Christian white young girl who was the head of the young Republicans group on campus. And there's a lot of questions about whether she was hunted and about, there's so much going on where I'm reading online and it's not verified yet, but that they aren't releasing what the shooter looks like for a reason because I think it's going to come out that this is. This is not, this is going to be. It was targeted. We don't know why. Right. It was targeted. We don't know why. The shooter targeted one room, one study room. And was calling her name. And she is one of the few college Republicans on that campus. I think it goes to the broader context of what's happening in college. They are demonizing conservative. And that feeds into. this radical left craziness. It does. It lets it go unchecked. You listen, this is, you're exactly right. You're exactly right. It goes unchecked. And what happens when it goes unchecked? When you're constantly telling people, white people are bad, America is bad, anyone who voted for Trump is bad, they're racist, they're Nazis, they're fascists, etc. And when that goes unchallenged, when it goes unchallenged by individual students, by their parents who say, Scarlett, don't share my name. Don't let anyone know because everybody's too afraid to say anything. You get violence. You get 92% of young people saying that speech can be violence because everybody has been too much. They're too spineless. You have American parents have raised a generation of spineless. kids and they all want the radio talk show host or the moms for liberty activist or charlie kirk or fox news or one of the podcasters to go out and fight their fights for them you know what if you we can't if you don't stand up and fight your fight then the legislature who are a bunch of spineless wimps themselves will never feel like they have a reason to stand up for you you stand up for yourselves finally or this or we're just going to end up becoming you know will be living this reality when Trump is gone because everybody has been so terrified. Oh, what if they say mean things about me? Sticks and stone. Speech is not violence. Stand up and tell this professor where to stuff it. And you know what? Go to your administrators. File complaints for crying out loud. I'm so tired of this, Scarlett. I'm so tired of it too. And then our kids are either going into debt or we are paying for them to be turned into Marxist radicals. An anthropology faculty who specialize in post-colonial activism and ethnomusic studies, you know, do not be afraid of that paper, Tiger. They're providing no balance, no debate. These students are calling this class EZA, no rigor. They're just, they're ridiculous classes that you are paying for, that your kids are paying for. And there needs to be accountability. We should not be funding this stuff. Our university should not be pulling this out. And all these professors should be fired. We should have more professors that teach something useful, just like what's happening in K through 12 in universities. Start standing up. So much time and money. It's crap.

Teach your kids to stand up and fight. Teach your kids to stand up and push back. I bet you there are at least two or three people in this class. At least two or three. And if those two or three people constantly went after that teacher, constantly went after that professor, constantly hectored and said, how dare you? Constantly lecture me about my skin color. What kind of racist are you? Why don't you explain to me about poor people in Appalachia and how they have a $371,000 white bonus lady? You know, I mean, start saying this is racist, this is wrong, this is not even true. These are your opinions. Your opinions are wrong. Let's debate. Start pushing me. care if it's K-12 and you're a freshman in high school or you're a freshman in college or you're a senior in college. Who cares if you get the F in ethnic studies? Then you can take it and file a complaint because you are given an F simply because you disagreed with a professor and that's wrong. I mean, these are the kinds, it's been 20 years almost now. At what point are we going to raise a bunch of people who are willing to actually stand up and say really kind of mild things like Charlie Kirk taught these young people to do before he was assassinated? Yes, I mean, the importance of Charlie Kirk on campuses cannot be overstated because he provided them the tools so that when they're in these lecture halls that they could push back and say, hey, wait a second, I'm not going to accept what you're saying as fast. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to go toe to toe to with you. So you've got to raise your kids to be ready, armed, and willing to just. push back on this stuff, especially considering these are white professors that are talking about these issues. It just, oh my gosh, it bothers me to know. It doesn't matter if they're black. It wouldn't matter if they're black. They're just what they are. But it goes to this whole like this thing, this mind virus that particularly affects these elite white people that think that they need to go around, like spreading this religion. to other kids and then they call me racist. And I'm a Puerto Rican, I'm racist because I won't go along with it. Of course, you're racist. You're racist by proxy. Seriously, you're, you know, I forget what it was called. David Clark actually had a word for being called a white supremacist, a black white supremacist. That's what they accused him of being. I guess you're a Puerto Rican white supremacist or something like that. Who knew? Who knew, Scarlett? But here's the thing. You know, everybody says, when they killed Charlie Kirk, they unleashed a million charlie's. You know what? Not yet. That's not true. When they killed Charlie Kirk, they killed the one Charlie Kirk. If you want a million Charlie Kirk's, then you've got to not hide behind the skirt of your mother or moms for liberty. You have to stand up and actually be one. Everybody's wearing those t-shirts. We are Charlie. I am Charlie.

act like it. Don't, you know, don't go slinking away and saying, I don't want to get in trouble. I don't want to rock the boat. Put that damn t-shirt on and go confront this person. And the legislature of you, I am sick of the legislature kicking the can. I am sick of the legislature only doing the safe thing or whatever the lobbyists want them to do. They should have been fighting this 10 years ago. More than that, they should have been fighting it when we first heard about this white knapsack BS and white privilege BS. Scarlett, I mean, and now look where we are. Now, speech is violence and kids are getting shot. Yes, it's terrible. And the legislator needs to use their power to stop these required courses. Yes. It should not be required. Why should anyone have to take this? Amen. Why should anyone have to take this? It's ridiculous. It's pure indoctrination. It holds no value. And they're freshmen. They're intentionally going after these kids. They're fresh out of high school, fresh out of their parents' homes. They're just trying to indoctrinate them right off the back. Easiest thing we can do tomorrow is a piece of legislation that ends the mandates, ends the ethnic studies mandates or some of these other BS mandates that are nothing more than ways to strip taxpayer money so that people who could never get a job in the real world with their ethnomusicology degree can collect a pension when they retire. I appreciate the time. Thank you, Scarlett. Thanks. Good to have you. And we'll take a break on the Vicki McKenna show. Speaking of college, Professor Duke Pesta is going to join me in just a moment. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. Standing by on the Middleton Ford Hotline family owned and your good neighbor Ford dealership for nearly 75 years is our friend, Professor and Dr. Duke Pesta. Duke, welcome to the show. I want to start with this. Hey, Vicki. Thank you. Here's how we're going to start. You have now, in response to what just happened in Sydney, you have multiple Western countries canceling their Christmas celebrations. Last week, there were multiple Western countries canceling Christmas celebrations due to threats to disrupt Christmas markets, Christmas concerts, whatever that might be. They're canceling them. Paris has a very famous New Year's celebration. It's being canceled. It's being canceled. There just was, I believe this one was in Germany, the kickoff to, I'm sorry, it was Amsterdam, the kickoff to Christmas with a public celebration, which was interrupted by black smoke, ISIS flags, you know, free Gaza and threats. You just had video after video after video, after video, posted after the Sydney... terrorist attacks. I don't even know how you can possibly film these videos so fast and get them to go viral of Islamists dancing, cheering, pumping their fists for what just happened in Sydney, Australia at the Hanukkah celebration. And response from the West is cancellation of Christmas, cancellation of tradition, cancellation of the things that make Western culture, Western culture. Let's start there.

Yeah, the word I would use is crusade. If I haven't been told by my colleagues at the university, it only applies to Christians. But that's what this is. This is a crusade. They invaded these. They were invited to invade Europe. And some parts of America as well, you're seeing the same thing in Minnesota right now. And what is the new way, how the crusade works? Well, if they can get you to stop doing things. by simply threatening you, then they've kind of won, haven't they? You're already in the, we are the slave aspect of this. You either become a slave or you become a casualty if you don't submit to Islam. We're all, the fact that they can threaten us, they can throw a little smoke, they even start to shooting. Our response is not to defend Christianity, not to defend our traditions. I would suggest to you that Europe is already gone. They have already surrendered to this. In England, when they're arresting you for saying things like, I believe that I should be able to fly, the Union Jack, whatever you think. You're getting arrested for stuff like this. You're getting... sent to jail for tweets and posts on social media, critical of Islam. But meanwhile, when they're raping and killing and pillaging, they're slapped on the wrist, they're let off, honor killings of their own children. Well, that's a Sharia law. We don't want to intervene with this. And now you're seeing it here in the United States. What just happened over this weekend as well. What's going on? The way we are reacting. Democrats and progressives across the country are reacting to the big scam in Minneapolis, where all these Somalis took well over a billion dollars. And now you're racist for pointing it back. At one point, I think it was Omar, said, why are they attacking these Somalis? Why don't they go after white? embezzlers, right? So the argument seems to be that anything that Islam doesn't like, we have to adjust in Canada. They actually, one school district said a note to the family. Stop sending your kids to school with Canadian bacon sandwiches or ham. It is offending the Muslim kids. Yep. Yep. That actually happened. Just for fun, I looked up. How many, just on anti-Semitic attacks, they're not collecting the anti-Christian attacks. They're only collecting the anti-Semitic attacks. We don't know what the amount of anti-Christian attacks have been, but just the anti-Semitic attacks. In Australia, 1654 documented anti-Semitic incidents in the last 12 months. France has stopped six terror plots, Islamic terror plots in 2025 alone. Plots! They've actually...

Stop the plots. Germany's Christmas market security costs have surged over 44% and most of them have been canceled. In the United States in 2003, there were 8,873 documented anti-Semitic incidents in 2004, 9,354. And we are on pace to be at 11,000 in the United States in 2025. And the response is what? What is the response from the Western elites? The response is to say exactly what Elon Musk Omar said. It's a white privilege problem. The problem isn't Islam. The problem isn't the attacks on Western civilization or these endless hectorings like by this idiot professor at University of Wisconsin-Madison about white privilege and white bonuses and white, white and anti-colonialism, this. The problem is just be less white. The problem is be less West, be less Jewish, be less Christian. And that's still not enough because Europe's already done it and prove that it's not enough. No, it's never enough because they want control. And to go back to the first thing we know for an absolute fact that more Christians are murdered worldwide than any other religion. That is not debatable. But you never hear that anywhere, right? Number one, and number two, I think that what we're dealing with here is my question. Okay, why are you stopping the attacks? In Germany, they've had, but hundreds of attacks on Jews and Christians, they've stopped them. If you're not going to punish them, if you're not going to change this, if you're not going to assert the values of Western culture, my question is, why are you stopping the killing? I mean, you are already... abetting it you are already with you refuse to use your justice systems or to deport your ability to deport people who don't assimilate what why are you stopping them i mean give me a reason you so you draw the line at actually killing people if you can stop it but once they kill it's a whole separate kind of justice you they get a much more lenient kind of justice why do if what you want is to capitulate fully to Islamists, then do it. Why are you playing this middle-of-the-road game? It's worse. You'd be more honest, and it would be more clear if you just surrendered. Well, and Europe has, for all intents and purposes, surrendered. The majority, the broad, you know, Western Europe at least, is for the most part, has just surrendered. There are some pockets in Eastern Europe. There are some, you know, pockets here in the United States. But it's only a matter of time because what's going on right now is, let's look at this Somali situation in Minnesota. The press is playing this like it's racist. Like it's white people attacking black people. No, it's Americans attacking unassimilated migrants who were washed into this country en masse and have now completely created instant chaos. And we can't do anything to stop it. The moment someone tries to stop it, you're told you can't stop it. That's racist. It's a catch-22. And that's what we're pushing back against here in the United States.

States. And there is a backlash here. There isn't a backlash. Not of any note, certainly not enough to change EU politics in Western Europe. I think people are mad. They're just not sure what they do, what to do, because the politicians are kissing the ass of the EU. And they are the globalists. They are the ones who think we should have global citizens. Let's import Afghans and put them into Sweden. Let's import Somalis and have them descend across, you know, munitions. in other major cities in Germany. And in the United States, same thing. They want to see the chaos create conditions of instant and nihilistic change, I think. Well, what better way to make? radical Islamists who's gotten into your country, then to sacrifice 13-year-old girls to their sexuality, right? I mean, rape in these kinds of, we see what goes on in Sweden, that they... And Germany. The number of young girls raped and really not... brought to justice. Those people are stunning. And it's even worse when I think what you were saying with about Minneapolis. So what are they saying, including Abby Phillip. They're saying, how dare you conservatives and Republicans blame all Somalis for what a few do? How dare you since when do we collectively find people guilty? And yet these are the same people out of the same mouth that blame white. people for everything, Republicans for everything, Christians are nationalists, all of them, right? So now that you got a big scam like this with a lot of Somalis benefiting for it, you can no longer say it's a Somali problem, that's racist. Meanwhile, they'll look at you and me and say, you're white, therefore you're evil. And that's how Orwellian we have become. Whatever you say about them is race and whatever they say about you is justice. Absolutely true. In fact, right before you came on, I had Scarlett Johnson on talking about the ethnic studies requirement at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, where you're supposed to learn about how your grandparents, because they were white, didn't earn anything for themselves, didn't create a business, a family business, because they were just white. They only succeeded because they were white. That all Trump voters are confused victims of racism or outright racist, that the middle class is an automatic sidewalk for white America, and the white bonus is 300. $171,000. And it's white, white. If you're white, you didn't earn that. If you're white, you're bad. If you're white, you're racist. White, white, white, white. Doesn't matter if you were born in poor Appalachia. Doesn't matter if you, you know, if you come from a poor family and you are still poor. If you're white.

you know, you're the problem. So we have collective guilt in the West for only white people. But if you actually say, which is a statement you can make, the problem of unvetted Somali migrants in Minnesota has created this massive fraud structure that is being, that is being, you know, facilitated by the government because their voting block is so important. You're a racist. Well, but you called out the, I listened to the end of your interview with her, Scarlett, and you pointed out that the legislature is doing nothing. I would go one step further than that. If the election took place today, the American people would hand government back to the Democrats. So these problems. We're not paying attention to them. I mean, I guess where are we now? Unless we get all of our groceries at a certain level, then the entire presidency of Trump and his cabinet is a failure. That seems to be what we're being told right now. And by the way, the entire Democrat Party, the whole Democrat Party, its only raison d'etre is to collectively. blame everybody else, particularly conservatives, Christians, Republicans, for all the evils. They're not one bit different than the Islamists. Let me conclude here with an example. And I put this up on Facebook last week. I gave people a warning because it is pretty bad. At the museum in Vienna for their Christmas display at an art museum in Vienna, they... featured an artist who blaspheme Christ the virgin birth, the holy mother, and the entirety of the meaning of Christmas, using maggots, using transsexualism, using some of the most egregious and vulgar blaspheming pictures, paintings of Jesus and Mary. And the response in Europe and in the West was a shrug of the shoulder. Yeah, no, the Islamists won't blaspheme Christianity because it's part of their tradition and the through the Koran back through the Bible. Most Islamists won't blaspheme that you need progressive queer liberals to do that. And it's got to be absolutely rich and ironic to the Islamists to look at the progressive queer liberal, the offals, these. 50-year-old white liberal women with money, absolutely blaspheming against Christianity and pretending that Islam is somehow feminist and inclusive. I mean, there's no way you Islam could have created that. That comes from the mind of our secular progressives. Absolutely true. That's not something you can blame on on Islamism. You can't. But they're enjoying the fruits of that labor of the, you know, Cluster B, blue-haired, 50-year-old, upper middle class Karen contingent in the United States and in the broader West in the world. I appreciate the time, Duke. Thanks very much for joining me. We'll take a quick break on the Vicki McKenna Show.

What's true about what these global war on terror vets are saying about their sources in Pakistan and Afghanistan, if these simultaneous attacks are launched, and by the way, they were global. They were intended to be worldwide across targets in the West. So was what just happened in Sydney part of this? I don't know. Was what was just foiled in Paris part of this? I don't know. Was the ongoing attacks in Germany and in France and in the UK? part of this? I don't know. See, no one's bothering to take a look at this picture holistically. And we don't have law enforcement here in the United States. It's prepared. I guarantee you the Madison Police Department's not prepared. They're not prepared. Milwaukee Police Department's not prepared. Nobody is. Because nobody's looking at a, like, no one's looking at risk the way we used to after 9-11. We're just not looking at it that way any longer. So you've Tulsi Gabbard saying 18,000. It's not a big number overall, but it's a big number if every single one of those 18,000 is involved in doing something like what just happened to the National Guardsman, which just took place in Sydney. No plans. Ah, just let it happen. And then blame guns like they're doing in Australia right now. Then when it happens, blame the guns. So take away the guns from the people who could use the guns to defend themselves. Blame the guns. That's what they're talking about in Australia right now. Let's make it so that nobody can have a hunting rifle. Let's make it so that nobody can have a hunting shotgun. Blame the guns. Don't blame the policy. Don't blame Islamism. Don't blame the nonstop hectoring about whiteness or Zionism or whatever. Blame the guns. Blame the victims. Take away people's ability to defend themselves. That's the left. And there is no, I'm just telling you, there's nothing. No one, no agency, nowhere, no attorney general. I don't care in the most hardcore red state, not in Texas, not in Florida, prepared for simultaneous soft target attacks. We foiled one in Los Angeles, according to Pam Bondi and the FBI today. But here's Tulsi Gabbard saying, there are at least 18,000 other risks out there, and we don't know where they are, but they're here.

Hunker down. Don't go out of your houses. Don't go to public gatherings. Don't celebrate Hanukkah. Don't celebrate Christmas. Hide behind windows with shades pulled down. Don't wear your Stars of David. Don't wear your Christian crosses. Don't wear your maga hats. Don't wear your shirts. Don't wear anything that can identify. That's basically what they want us all to think. Because we don't have any kind of organized way to think about defending the West and to think about defending Western culture. What are they doing in Europe right now? We're a couple of years away from this. They're telling people to hide in their houses. They are canceling public events. They are telling people not to be religious in public. And it's still not going to be enough. They're punishing people for speech in the UK for criticizing the invasion, the foreign Islamist invasion of their country. They're punishing the people complaining about it. We're not that far away. They're already telling young people on college campuses to do this. Your speech is violence. Your speech is violence. Don't speak. Keep it to yourself. Because if you speak, it's violence. Oh, wait. If you don't agree with what the free Palestine people, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, inverted racist say, that's also violence. That's the new thing. If you don't agree with them, that's also violence. That's where we're very close to that here in the United States. Trump or no Trump? For all intents and purposes, Trump is a lame duck anyway. We're so close. And to know the level of the threats and the total lack of any sort of law enforcement or government.

logistical planning on what to do in an emergent situation if we are under a series of simultaneous soft target attacks is shocking. It's shocking to know that. We'll be right back. Hey, welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. Standing by on the Middleton Ford Hotline is State Representative Lindy Brill. And Lindy, you know, is a fellow traveler in terms of the thought process that Scarlet has, Duke has, and that I have with regard to what is going on, particularly with our college campus situation here. And she joins me on the Middleton Ford Hotline. Lindy, I mean, we had the Charlie Kirk assassination. We've just had an attack on a conservative student at Brown University. We've just had a recent Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression poll on college students saying 92% of them. say speeches violence. Over 80% of them said they're afraid to speak. We just had the story that Scarlett Johnson did on the ethnic studies, white privilege BS. The legislature has told the UW to rein in the DEI nonsense. They completely flip the bird to you. And we don't really seem to have a plan on what we are going to do. to shore up, number one, just all American values, but two, protect our kids on campus from being the next targets of violence. Yeah, first off, just condolences to the family of the woman lost as part of this Brown University tragedy. This continues to be. I hate to say, but it seems like it's almost becoming our norm. And I think it relates a lot back to what we saw as far as silence in the media back during COVID. The conservative voice was silent. And we stood by and we just watched it happen. And in the meantime, the liberal media grew in their confidence in the bullying that they do and the absolute. horrid rhetoric. I mean, the amount of calls I've gotten to my office when I make conservative comments, and I've introduced some very conservative ideas, the absolute hate that people feel empowered to say, and now that these deaths that were seen, like you bring up Charlie Kirk First and the most recent one at Brown University, when I looked back at when we did the budget, I really was not a fan of giving UW money. And I did hold my nose and vote for the budget, because there were some good things in there. We just see this absolute disregard for healthy political rhetoric in our schools on social media protection to the point that people are being murdered over it. And it's sad and devastating. And I can't imagine right now having my son or daughter at.

a college and just praying for their safety daily. No, we're not doing anything. So the answer, of course, is maybe, you know, stop making college campuses gun-free zones. But, of course, the legislature doesn't have the guts for that, which actually is my first question. Why don't they? That's a great question. Why don't, you know, why is it you? Why is it, you know, why is it? I mean, you can name all of the people who are willing to kind of, you know, use the legislature. as a launch pad for trying to bring Wisconsin back to American values. You can almost name all of them on two hands. And so I don't see that from the conservatives. You were talking about the University of Wisconsin. I mean, nobody wanted to say to them, you're getting zero dollars. unless you fix this stuff. No, I mean, it's just no, you would never have come up with a majority of Republicans willing to do that. You know, maybe you would have, Steve Noss, maybe. I mean, like I said, you can name them. But we always just gripe about it and then kick the can. And when it comes to colleges, the kids are left to, you know. I don't know, you know, contact Scarlett, reach out to you, reach out to me and say, can't you talk about this on the radio? I don't know. We actually need to create a culture where kids feel confident to stand up and say, that is wrong. You're a bigot. You're a racist. I'm not a bad person. I'm not a racist. And make this really hard to continue. Yeah, I think this is a top-down issue. And Charlie Kirk was a big one. This was part of his message of how it is time for conservatives. And he wrote this, gosh, I want to say two years ago, about how we need to, as conservatives, go on the offense. We've too often gone on the defense. And I think the comparison he made was. You know, Republicans and Democrats have the past could come to the table and have a discussion and walk away and everything go well. And the fact is the Democrats walked away from the table a long time ago, and we just keep showing up to the table. And it's got to stop. We got to start demanding conservative thought is brought back into government, back into our schools, back into society. And stop thinking they're even going to listen to us. Because I can tell you the rhetoric from the left is vulgar. And it's fearless. And we need to be fearless, not vulgar. But we know what's good for our state. We know what's good for our country. And we have to stop having children die at the fate of this. I love the idea of a gun-free zone bill on school, for UW. I will definitely talk with.

my fellow conservatives on that. I like that. Thank you. Yeah, student, in fact, reach out to Nick Clark at Wisconsin-Carry. Nick Clark has been trying to have a campus carry bill. He's gotten, you know, a handful of people every now and again to introduce it, and it goes absolutely nowhere. It goes absolutely nowhere. And if we're not going to change the culture in K-12 public classrooms, in campus environments, then at least give kids the ability to defend themselves on those campuses. You know, I go back to the DEI. Everybody, the big headlines, you know, the state legislature bans DEI. I was laughing out loud, mocking that immediately because I knew it wasn't true, because it was only ever going to be in name only. And what do the University of Wisconsin system do? They change the wording. They changed the language. They shifted the descriptions of the jobs. And everybody's still employed. The university system, university medical, all of them. of it. It didn't change a bit. We have executive orders here. We have not seen any changes in K-12 public schooling. We have not seen any changes at the University of Wisconsin. It's gotten measurably worse in the state of Wisconsin where the violent left feels even more compelled than they have in the past to wish, you know, to wish the visit of death, destruction, and, and, you know, frankly, to just simply make unjustifiable accusations of racism. Yeah, and I think one of the most intelligent things I've heard over the last year, or probably year and a half regarding this political environment we're in is the left considers their politics, their religion. And to some extent we see it on the right, right? But on the left, it is their religion. And when we threaten that, they have now gotten to the point that they're violent. And we have to stop standing by and saying, well, maybe they'll play nice in the sandbox next week because... People are dying as a result. And we have to do something. Yeah. Again, you mentioned top-down solutions. It is a top-down solution. We can't wait around for Jill Underley to figure out to make it the top-down solution that way. So the legislature could very easily do this. And would Tony Evers veto it? Of course Tony Evers would veto it. But our legislature does not speak with one voice. You know, I mean, you're having a hard time. You've got a clean water bill, and this is, you know, I wanted to talk you a little bit more about this, but given what just happened over the weekend, the issue got broader, that we have women using abortion pills in Wisconsin flushing that garbage down the toilet, and it contaminates the water system. So you had a piece of legislation saying, hey, let's make sure that doesn't contaminate our water system. You would swear. It's pretty common sense, actually. You would swear that you just walked into the middle of the room and started shrieking like a madwoman for doing something like that because we do not unify as conservatives as Republicans on a slate of issues and promote those issues with one single voice. Yeah, it was amazing because I saw the left come out against my bill saying that, you know, I'm going to force women having miscarriages to have to catch their remains of their child in a catch kit when blatantly the bill says.

that it has nothing to do with the miscarriage. And the endocrine disruptor drug were going after Zimiphypristone, which is used an abortion, not miscarriage. But this is yet another example where the left comes out uneducated on the issue. They just want a culture of death. And they just say whatever they want, and the media runs with it. And I did multiple interviews with stations that wouldn't include my language on that kind of part. It would get cut. But yeah, I know it was a hard issue to have the discussion, but I did see dissent even on my side of the aisle. You know, I work very closely with Rob Gustafson. I know, you know, he's the one who introduced the amendment. We typically do work very well together, and I do think this is a blip where we'll work it out. But it was very hard to see my bill just get gutted by a fellow legislator. And we'll work through that. But we have to be able to have these discussions. Over 6,000 babies are getting flushed down our toilet. annually in Wisconsin, and that's accounted for. So that's gross and disgusting and soulless and vile. But the idea that the drug we are talking about cannot be caught by your traditional... treatment systems. We've already talked about the massive number of endocrine disruptors that are in the water systems of all different kinds. There's all kinds of them. We've been talking about it for the last 20 years. But we're just supposed to like, hey, now that the left is attacked it and the media is attacking Lindy, let's run away from Lindy and not stand with her and not defend what she's trying to do. And that is everything. I will go back to Jesse Kramer, former state representative, was a really good guy. in 2015 or 2016, it introduced a piece of legislation. I might get the dates wrong. I hope Jesse's listening. You can correct me. He introduced a piece of legislation. that would have prevented men, boys, in girls' locker rooms, in girls' bathrooms, would have set aside specific, you know, provisions for any boy whose mom was trying to talk him into being a girl, so that that person could use a different facility, would not be allowed on the sports teams or anything like that. And it was mocked by Republicans as the potty bill. And it went nowhere. Oh, we don't need that. That's a potty bill. And that was our Republicans that killed that. Not the mainstream media. That was our Republicans that mocked Jesse Kramer and that killed his bill. So this is our problem is that every single time somebody says boo in the press, we get scared and we say, okay, to your point, something you said about five minutes ago, you show up at the table. They're not there. You just start offering them things on the table even though they're not there to take them. Right? that we do. Yep, I was just about to say this. This is that sad rhetoric of defense that we go on. Instead of going on offense, why aren't we calling out the Democrats for saying that they care about the environment but not care about the environment enough to address the culture of death, which clearly is their bigger God? Because they'd pick between environment and an abortion on this bill. And they clearly picked abortion because they didn't care that IQ is being a...

is being affected. They didn't care that there's endometriosis tied to it. They don't want to hear any of that. They just want to continue to kill children and have women have to do it in their own homes by themselves. And it's disgusting. And instead of standing behind me on that, we see people cave on it or not have a stance on it at all. We as a conservative or as Republicans should be fighting to end the culture of death in our state. Not dividing over it. Yeah, not saying, well, you know, abortion, abortion, we don't want to talk about it. Or we don't want to talk about DEI. Actually, they love to talk about DEI. They don't want to do anything about it. They don't want to do anything about it. When the rubber meets the road to actually do things, that's when, you know, that's when nobody puts forth any kind of, any kind of, you know, actionable measure. God bless moms for liberty and all of these groups working out there. It's like the legislature. in the main hides behind all of these activists to try to do the work that they could, that they should be doing on behalf of Wisconsin kids. What, where is anybody talking about safety on campuses? Where is anybody talking about the violent rhetoric? Where is anyone talking about giving kids the opportunity to defend themselves? That survey were 92% of college students. This was a national survey. So they believed speeches, violence, and over 80% of them said they're afraid to say anything. about something controversial on campus. That should have been alarm bells going off for our legislature. And the very first thing that should have happened was convening some kind of audit, some kind of investigation, some kind of look into the culture of censorship on campus. Five years ago now was the big free speech survey that was conducted by Jay Rothman. I think it's five years old now and nothing has happened in our legislature. Vicki, I appreciate the challenge. Thank you. I'm sorry to put it on you, Lee. It's not fair. No, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. We don't do our jobs better if we don't get that type of feedback. I really do appreciate that. That's something I need to spend more time looking into. For the future of our children. You are not even the problem. You know it, and that's why I love it, that you're going to take this up. I want the rest of the legislature to do this. You want talk radio to stop complaining about you, legislature? actually act like you care about conservative culture, American values, and bringing them back to Wisconsin to make it so that we don't have to worry about walking on eggshells and potentially finding the wrong end of the barrel of a gun because of it. It's great to have you on the program, Linda. You're one of the good ones. Thank you very much. Thank you so much, Vicki. I appreciate your time. Thanks for spreading conservative news. Have a very merry Christmas, and we will be right back.

Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. Standing by on the Middleton Ford Hotline family owned and your good neighbor Ford dealership for nearly 75 years is gubernatorial candidate Josh Schumann. And we're going to get into the property tax shock that people are experiencing right now, Josh. But before that, since I've been talking about sort of the lack of attention that... sort of the, I guess let's call them the institutions, the conservative institutions, that would be the Republican Party, that would be elected state legislatures and the leadership in Republican state legislatures. That would be Congress right now in the hands of Republican leadership have done to address what has become, you know, the march of the... inverted nihilistic madness that is consuming the West. And so I've been talking about the university system, K-12 system. And so that's where I want to start. It's just, you know, all it takes is leadership. to change the direction of culture. And what could you provide? And you don't have to give specific examples if you don't want to. But what, you know, what could you provide that could change the direction of Wisconsin's culture back to one of American values and away from this identity politics madness? Well, thanks for having me, Vicki. It's good to hear, and thank you for fighting the fight. You know, my grandpa used to tell me, Josh, you play dumb games and you're going to win dumb prizes. And I feel like that's where we are at in the state and in this country right now. Everything's a zero-sum game. People are talking past each other, and people on one side are afraid to talk at all in some cases. And others, there's no leadership to frame a conversation. You know, let's talk about pro-life. For example, conservatives are constantly getting badgered into a corner as if there's something wrong about thinking that every life is precious and we should protect it. Meanwhile, Democrats and the minority of the assembly are proposing... abortion all the way up to birth and some might argue beyond 40 weeks. I mean, that's radical. Instead, we are forced to be, look like we're the ones who are radical who are just trying to protect life. I'm sick and tired of this double standard of these zero-sum games. We should be open to conversation if Charlie taught us anything. It was... Let's have open dialogue and discussion, even with people we disagree with. It's why I've been in same county 27 times already in the first seven months. And I mean, I keep coming back, having conversations with people, conservatives normally don't talk to because that's how we win. Well, leadership does frame the conversation. That's an absolute truth. Leadership frames the conversation. The only leadership we have right now is President Trump. And with regard to rhetoric, he's not framing rhetoric. He just doesn't.

do that. He's a transactional guy. In fact, if you use him to lead you down, you know, rhetorical lessons, you probably are going to make mistakes because you can't do what he does. Being blunt is important, but we don't have leadership framing the conversation at all. We don't have it at the party level. We don't have it at the legislative level. We certainly don't have it at the congressional level. And then we don't have the action backed up, backing up the the conversation in the first place. And so why would the left sit down with us and have a conversation when they're winning when the media owns us? That's exactly. I look no farther than Ron DeSantis down in Florida and how he's done things. Correct. And then look at how I handled things here in Washington County, especially during probably the most recent crisis here in America with COVID. I think it really is a matter of get your facts together, present your case, and utilize logic and actually make the argument. You're 100% correct. President Trump. It feels like he's oftentimes the only person who's willing to challenge the process, to model the way. Too many times our legislators are just taking pop shots, making social media posts, sending letters, firmly worded letters. Like, no, people are sick and tired of the talk. Like, let's back up rhetoric with action. And that's what I've done here in Washington County. I mean, look no farther than our property tax reforms. We said we were going to make government smaller, 25% less employees. We were said we're going to drive down property taxes. Our tax rates half of what it was when I started. Property tax collections are lower in 26 when they were in 2020. You have to be willing to not only make bold statements, but back it up with courage to do what you say you're going to do. President Trump does that time and time again. Unfortunately, we have a laundry list of legislators that say on... campaign literature they're going to do all these great things like reducing debt and deficits and repealing of replacing obamacare and here we are staring down the barrel of extending obamacare subsidies for another three years because of complete and total inaction i i sure hope president trump can do something to step in but he's one person he's just the executive branch he needs partners up and down all across the 50 states. I want to be exactly that in the governor's mansion. You know what? He's a dealmaker. That's what he does. He isn't out there saying this is how we're framing the conversation. He says, I want X. Go get it for me. But he's willing to make deals. So unless. Unless you're mentioning Obamacare, I mean, unless you give him something, you know, that is that is rock solid, which is what Senator Ron Johnson's trying to do, unless you do that, you know, you're not going, you have to start by asking for too much so that the deal that ends up getting cut is good for all of us. That's, again, that's our problem. We don't ask for the moon. We ask for half the moon. And then we accept zero. We always do.

that and it's killing this culture it is it is I mean it's destroyed rhetoric so all right I don't I want to we can go on and on and on I want to talk about the property tax bills I just received a note from a lady who lives in a very small condo. She just looked at her property tax bill. She has got a $700 increase, and she's probably lucky, given that she's in Madison. She had a $700 increase. The city put out a – sent a letter along with it about how the mill rate, the mill rate didn't go up. So get happy about the mill rate. You got a $700 increase. 51% of your property tax bill is for crappy schools. You know, this amount of your property tax bill is for crappy county government. This amount of your property tax bill is for crappy city services. But, hey, we didn't raise the mill rate. Doesn't really matter, does it? This is exactly where your conversation ended before we transition to talking about property tax. This is exactly where President Trump's anchoring, where he proposes something big and bold, big, hairy audacious goals is so important instead of being milk toast, and then we get nothing. So all of this talk, it's been 20 years. It's been 20 years of promising, oh, we're going to freeze property taxes. You know, we have these ambitious goals to hold the line. No, my goal is a 50% reduction in property taxes. That's my goal. And as you said, if we shoot for the moon and we only hit the stratosphere, people will be ecstatic. Instead, right now, we've got all of these lame excuses for why we're seeing giant increases. And the reality is, Governor Evers makes that 402-year veto. and the legislature ends up codifying it in the state budget. That's why you're seeing massive increases. That's 100% it. I mean, we can paint it however we want, but at the end of the day, that veto put us on a path that absolutely was going to pass this down to people at their kitchen tables, no matter how you slice it, and we didn't fight hard enough. We need a governor in the mansion who is willing to anchor, just like President Trump does, big, hairy audacious goals, and if we get to half of them. Dang it, Wisconsin is going to be in a heck of a better position. And we need to do it again and again and again and again no matter what the issue. That's exactly what I've done in Washington County. That's what we're going to bring to all of Wisconsin. You know, and with regard to the 400-year property tax increase, that is, correct me if I'm wrong, it's $325 per student. every single year for 400 years. So it's 325 per student this year, plus another 325 next year, so that's $650, plus another $325, that's $975, et cetera, in perpetuity for 400 years. That's how that works.

That's how that works. So it's 325 for student today. Next year it'll be $6.50 per student. Next year it'll be $9.75 per student. And it goes on like this. And your property taxes will never come down. So all your sticker shock, ladies and gentlemen, you can blame Tony Evers for giving your school districts that kind of taxing authority for 37% proficiency in reading and math. Well, that's right. And then here's the worst part. For years and years and years and decades, the state has been underwriting some of that increase by allocating state aid to offset property tax increases. In this budget, they didn't do any of that. So that full increase of $325 is felt right now by the woman who has that condo experiencing $300 increase. And here's what's scary about it. It's going to get. demonstrably worse the farther it goes on. Not only is it that increase, but you're also seeing districts then with declining enrollment on top of it, which means property taxes go higher and higher and higher and state aid goes lower and lower and lower. And you're going to find school districts, you think you have referendum problems now across Wisconsin, and you guys felt it firsthand in the city of Madison, Madison Metropolitan School District. You're going to feel it all across Wisconsin. I was just talking to a group of almost 30 superintendents. And I asked them how many of you to expect to have a referendum in the next five years if we keep going with this formula. Two-thirds of them raise their hand. Of course. We are entering crisis. And we treat it like it's a political issue. The reality is it's an issue at kitchen tables all across Wisconsin. We better get our act together as conservatives or we deserve to lose. Plus reassessments. Plus we just had a whole bunch of reassessments. Plus, not all those reassessments resulted in a lowering of the mill rate. I'm looking at Wauwatosa here. People are seeing thousands, thousands of multiple thousands of dollars in additional property taxes because of both the Tony Evers veto and the reassessment without altering the mill rate to compensate for that. So thousands. And you were mentioning those referenda that are coming. They're coming because of declining enrollment. The promise of this 400 years. If there's a declining student enrollment, then those school districts that are going to be counting on the dollars that Tony Evers gave them, the authority to tax, are not going to have as many students to count on in the future. They will absolutely be hitting you up over and over and over again for new spending measures that will lock in permanent increases in operational spending. That's exactly right. And we're not even talking about at the county or local level where you're going to, you're seeing some prairie. It's a really good example. Four and a half million dollar referendum coming in April for their operating expenses. That step forward we took insured revenue needs to be a giant leap. That's how you cut property taxes. You work with them to actually give other revenue sources. So we're actually giving at the end of the day breaks the people at their kitchen tables. This isn't about politicians. This isn't about bureaucracy, not about institutions. It's about people. The Republican Party, at large, the establishment for the last 20 years, has lost the plot. They've forgotten that we are actually here to serve people at the end of the day. And the decisions we make aren't about who makes the biggest contribution to our campaign. It's not about whose face gets on the paper. It's about people. And we've...

kept that prime and focused. I had so many county board supervisors furious that I was proposing a levy cut, property tax collection cut. But I kept telling them, guys, this 402 year veto in the subsequent state budget, you're going to see tax bills go up everywhere. We cannot be part of the problem. We need to be part of the solution. That's why we cut property taxes, again, the eighth time in 12 years that I've been to Washington County. That's exactly what we need to see all across Wisconsin and a governor who's willing to. Push the envelope to make it happen. You know, one last thing. I want to throw this out there. I'm throwing this out there to you and Tom Tiffany. I want a law that mandates that all rental agreements come with a line item for property taxes. I want every renter to know exactly how much in property taxes that massive amount of renter paying is footing the bill for. Because, you know, that's another thing. conversation for another time, Josh, but I'm just throwing that out there. I'm just throwing it out there. And anybody in the legislature, if you're listening, I know you're probably mad at me because of what I was saying to Lindy Brill today, but that's a great idea. Mandate that all rental agreements come with a line item that shows you exactly how much is a renter you pay in property taxes. I think it would be clarifying. Good to have you. Josh. Thank you so much. Everybody go to joshoman.com to learn more and have a very Merry Christmas. Thanks so much. We'll take a quick break on the Vicki McKenna Show. Good afternoon and welcome to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. I've only got an hour and I've got to pack a lot of stuff into this hour. So Tom Tiffany is going to join me on the program. We're going to check in with Matt Kittle who's been monitoring the preliminary hearing that is, as I understand, still ongoing, started at 9 a.m. still ongoing in Dane County Circuit Court in a rigged courtroom in Dane County. It's Jim Truppace's preliminary hearing. He is accused by the state of Wisconsin of forgery for alternate electors he didn't even draft the document the alternate elector signed but he's being accused of forgery so we're going to get an update on that today as well i want to start here um on the brown university shooting over the weekend those kids were targeted It seems abundantly clear at this point they were targeted. In fact, the family, according to Mark Halper, and he is reporting this, or a lot of other accounts, news accounts. According to the family, the police told them their daughter, Ella Cook, who was shot in the face and killed at Brown University, was targeted. She was the vice president of the college Republicans. She was targeted. The suspect, which is someone they still do not. say they know who it is. They don't have, they had a person of interest that turned out to be nonsense and they released the name of a Wisconsin man who apparently had nothing to do with this to the entire world turning him into a target. But the police have nothing. They have nothing. That's what they say. They have nothing. They have a thousand cameras on Brown University's campus. Apparently they know that Ella Cook was targeted. But they don't have any idea of what the suspect looks like. Give us a suspect description. Nothing. A thousand cameras. The only students who were murdered were conservative, Ella Cook being among them, there were only two. I'm sorry, there were only 20, approximately 20 people in the college Republicans. Two of them were killed. Police know they were targeted.

They tell the family this, but the police and the attorney general of Rhode Island and the president of the university, we have no idea who this suspect is. No idea. Don't want to release a description to the public. All 1,000 of the cameras on Brown University campus apparently were malfunctioning simultaneously. Actually, they don't have an explanation for why they don't have any camera footage. And so I'm putting this out there again. I was talking to representative Lindy Brill. this morning on my show, which airs every single weekday from 9 to 11, which you can get at the IHeart Radio app. I was talking with Representative Brill about this, and I said, now it's time. Don't you think to introduce a campus carry bill? Isn't it time? I know that Nick Clark at Wisconsin, Kerry had, I don't know, 10 years ago, more asked legislators in Wisconsin to introduce this. Well, now it's time because nobody else is doing anything to secure conservatives on campus. Conservatives are targets and no one's doing anything to make it safer for them. In fact, everything in the opposite. At the University of Wisconsin, incoming freshmen get to learn in ethnic studies about how horrible white people are. I was talking with Scarlett Johnson a bit earlier on my program today about that, about how horrible white people are. How they didn't earn anything, how the only reason they have things is because they're white. That's the kind of garbage they're learning at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. All that does is make people mad at you. They're racist, fascist, whatever. And there's nothing. Any campus is done. There is nothing that the Board of Regents has demanded. There is nothing that the university presidents have demanded. There is nothing that the Chancellor has demanded. There is nothing that the legislature has demanded. In light of surveys in Wisconsin from five years ago saying conservative students are afraid to speak out on campus, a recent survey showing 92% of young college students believe speech is violence and over 80% of them saying they're afraid to express a controversial view. Nothing has been done to secure these environments. And now we know that the left who's been taught to hate us for a decade and a half has taken to political violence. as an answer to their disagreement with conservative students' positions. It's time for the campus carry bill. And it's time for people on campus to band together and stop this. Because waiting around for the legislature is apparently a pipe dream. Tom Tiffany is going to join me in just a moment. We'll check in with Matt Kittle as well. This is the Vicki McKenna Show.

And welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show, and I'm delighted to have. This time in the studio, gubernatorial candidate and Congressman Tom Tiffany, you're making the rounds of Wisconsin today. Thanks for joining me in studio. It's great to be in the Mad City, Vicki. I know. No, it's not. But, you know, it's okay. It's okay. So we're going to try to cover a lot of territory here. I do want to pass along that I'm getting updates on the preliminary hearing from my friend Jim Troopis, who is being pursued in lawfare by... by Josh Call in a corrupt Dane County court system. And I am happy to report, I don't know if you've been following this, Tom, but I can catch you up if you need me to. I'm happy to report that the Dane County GOP, I politely asked them, and then so did my curl, the chairman, ask the members to show up today in the courtroom and they have packed. the courtroom. So I'm at least pleased to report that Jim has got some support in the institutional Republican Party. I'm not sure if you'd like to comment on this. If you have, you know, much knowledge about what's going on here, Tom, I'll give you an opportunity. Jim has lots of support. And by the way, for those of you that think the lawfare that's been going on in regards to President Trump and us out in Washington, D.C., that it isn't going to come to your home state. It's here. And Jim Troopus is their target. They want to take him out because he did. the most horrible thing in that he said, I'm going to represent my client, just as you should under the constitutional law of the United States of America, they put a big target on his back, they being Josh Call and Democrats, national Democrats, and they want to take him out to send a message to Republicans. Don't do anything against us or you're going to pay the price. Yeah, never question, never questioned election integrity. Don't ever do that, or you'll pay the price. They want to put Trump on trial in August. That's what they want to do. I mean, when I say Trump on trial, I mean, in absentia, they want to put Trump on trial ahead of these 2026 midterms. That's all the Attorney General cares about. That's all Tony Evers, who was the first person to greenlight this. cares about is putting Trump on trial in Wisconsin. Who cares that Wisconsin people are suffering affordability problems? That Wisconsin people just got a massive hit with their property taxes. Who cares? Let's put a man in prison because the only thing Wisconsin Democrats are interested in is national democratic politics. For all you that voted for President Trump in 2024, and you're like, hey, things are a little bit, they're a lot better here in the United States now, and they're going to get a lot better here in 2026. I'm telling you, Vicki, it's coming. The economy's going to improve. There's going to be good stuff that's going to happen. And they're going to be like, you know, things are good. Why should I vote again? This is why you need to vote again, because they're going to come after President Trump. If we lose the House of Representatives in 2026, they're going to come after him. They... as sure as the sun rises in the east. Every proposal, every Democratic gubernatorial candidate, every Democratic legislative candidate, everything's national politics. It's not about what's going to make it better in Wisconsin. It's not about what's going to make it, you know, so that more people can afford to buy a house so that more people can afford to turn their lights on. It has nothing to do with that. It's national politics. Josh Kahl is national politics. Mandela Barnes is national politics.

Let's pivot back to Wisconsin. I have a woman who emails me with a small condo in Madison with a $700 property tax bill increase. She's like completely gobsmacked and she gets an accompanying letter from the mayor saying, hey, we didn't raise the mill rate. Aren't you glad we didn't raise the mill rate? She's like, I'm retired. I have a $700 bill now that I have to pay I didn't expect. I want you all to search out there for don't fear the mailman. We put this up this morning, an ad that's running across the state of Wisconsin. Property taxes are the tax that we need to reduce, and then we need to freeze them. And you do it by getting rid of the 400-year property tax increase that Governor Evers put in place, and then the Supreme Court allowed it to be constitutional in their minds. And so... we need to get on the affordability agenda especially for housing this is number one we got to get control of property taxes get rid of the four hundred year property tax increase and then let's freeze them and it will make home homeownership more affordable because that is one of the key things that we have to do is we want more people to own homes in the state of Wisconsin. I said this to your opponent as well, Josh Schumann, and I'm going to say this to you. I want a piece of legislation mandating that property taxes are a line item on rental contracts. I want your rent to include some kind of line or portion that says this is what you're paying in property tax. because renters don't think about property taxes. By the way, 15 years ago, a city council candidate had indicated to me that that's what his opponent said. That's why we like renters because they don't notice when the property taxes go up. They blame the landlords. So let's make everybody very acutely aware of just how bad this 400-year increase is. Yeah, it sounds like a great idea. The other thing is we need to encourage homeownership. I mean, it is the bedrock of the American dream. And that is part of the reason. So many of these young people are dissatisfied at this point, Vicki, is because they cannot achieve the American dream, which is in part home ownership. We need to do that. I'll tell you, there's another key element to this, though, and that is red tape. It is zoning. It's these things that are driving up the cost of being able to build a home here in the state of Wisconsin. We are the second highest regulated state in the Midwest. next to our dear friends in Illinois. And any time that you mention your state in the same breath as Illinois, you got a problem, right, Vicki? Well, not unless it's by favorable comparison, not disfavorable comparison. I mean, we've got to be better than Illinois, not the same as Illinois. So here's the thing. And it depends on what market you're in and how much regulation you're talking about. But it's somewhere between $24,000 and $80,000. Off the top is what you're paying in regulatory compliance.

Now, that's before property taxes. That is before all of that kind of stuff. It's before fees. It's before artificially inflated housing prices. $24 to $80,000, depending on the market, is what you are paying in zoning, essentially zoning compliance. Before you buy a two-by-four, before you buy the shingles or the windows. Right. That is what you are going to pay for that home. That has to change in Wisconsin. As governor, I will change that. And it will start with zoning. But it'll also be the Department of Natural Resources and all the regulations that flow from them. We will have serious reform here in the state of Wisconsin. And I can point to states also that are doing it successfully. We're going to do the same. Well, you've got, you've got Ron DeSantis saying, you know, my goal is to eliminate property taxes entirely. They're kicking it around in Tennessee. They're kicking it around in some of the southern states. We got to rein in. First, we have to rein in local red tape and then figure out a way for governments to survive much smaller without constantly tapping the property tax. pool because it's a never-ending pool. It's prices never go down. Our taxes never go down. If the value of my house goes down, it's irrelevant because my taxes are still going to go up. By the way, Tony Evers has made sure of that, has made sure of that with this 400-year property tax increase. My taxes will always go up, period. Death and taxes. How do you rein in local red tape? So I think there's a way to use shared revenue in state aides to rein in abusive local red tape like you see in Madison, where a developer will come in and say, hey, I'd like to build 140 units. Well, you're going to have to do, you don't have to jump through this hoop and this hoop, and here's the park fees, and here's the sewage extension fees, and you've got to build a whole road on your own. And then the same thing is true in Milwaukee, the same thing's true in Waukesha. How do you stop local governments? from creating these conditions where there is just off the top, you're going to pay a regulatory penalty just for needing to live there. And a lot of these are cities in the areas where the young people are going to live. You may have identified one of the options to be able to do that, and that's via shared revenue. I mean, think about, so people are seeing these massive property tax increases here. in December. And yet the state budget blew through $100 billion for the first time in the history of the state of Wisconsin. What was $112, $114 billion? A 15% increase. It was shocking. And so why should people get hit with both? That's a great question. I don't have an answer. The answer is they shouldn't. So can the state step in and be helpful in regards to this? But I will go back.

I think there may be an avenue there, but I think more importantly, it is the red tape. It's the hidden costs that are out there that we need to rein in. And you mentioned some of the fees and taxes and stuff like that. I mean, we are fased and we are nickel and dined to death here in the state of Wisconsin, and we need to turn that around. And I will do that as governor. When you used to have affordable markets, you know, and I guess relatively speaking, if you're comparing them to, you know, southeastern Wisconsin or southern. Wisconsin, like Oshkosh in the Fox Valley area, even those markets are starting to see exploding costs and lack of access to first-time home buyer opportunities. It's not, if you're making the median income, which is around $48,000 to $50,000 a year in Wisconsin, it's a little bit lower statewide than it is in Madison or in southeastern Wisconsin, you're not buying the median priced house. You just, you're not. You don't make enough to afford and not struggle with a $350,000 house. You just don't. So we're pricing people out of living in Wisconsin. And if folks have to move out of Wisconsin and we don't have these same people to rely on, then what's going to happen to the state budget? So red tape, we should have a red tape reset. Two. We should get control of property taxes. The third thing that we can do that would be helpful because there's never a silver bullet, right? It's a whole combination of things. Third thing we should do, let's reduce utility rates. We used to be the second lowest utility prices in the upper Midwest. We are now the second highest. Let's reduce those utility rates. Under the Evers administration, $2 billion more have been approved in the last seven years that you were paying on your electricity bill. And that's because we... We've converted to these intermittent sources of power like wind and solar, destroying some of the most beautiful farmland in the world right here in Wisconsin. And it has driven up the cost of electricity. We need to go back to base load power, including nuclear. And including coal. We've shut down coal capacity. We've shut down nuclear capacity. Tons of nuclear capacity have been shut down. But we have a piece of legislation that says the utilities, which are essentially operate as a monopoly, although they... They are probably more functionally described as a cartel. But the operator's a monopoly. They've guaranteed rate of return. And for their investors. And who are their investors? Black Rock, Vanguard, and State Street. Not mom and pop Wisconsin, but Black Rock Vanguard and State Street. The three largest institutional asset management companies on the planet hold the majority of the investment in Wisconsin utilities, and they have a guaranteed rate of return. So they don't, it doesn't cost anybody any money to shut down the coal plant. And then to bring on the very expensive, highly subsidized solar capacity. or wind capacity. They don't care. We have a law that basically tells them they don't have to care. And at the same time, we are inducing these projects by subsidizing these projects in the first place and green lighting them in communities with the promises of kickbacks or some kind of, you know, technical benefit to a local government.

There should be two things that the Public Service Commission is focused on. Affordability and reliability. Those are the two things that they should be focused on. And if that would happen, we could see utility rates go down. I've never in my life seen my utility rate go down. My kilowatt hour rate has never gone down. No matter where I have gone in this state, it never goes down. As I understand, I think we are the second or third highest utilities in the Midwest. So when you're talking about competing for manufacturing capacity with the cell, or second, you're telling me, when you're talking about competing for... for well-playing jobs, skilled manufacturing facilities, the things that are going to be able to outlast the AI revolution that destroys everybody's jobs, you're going to want to have very agreeable utility rates for these companies to come in and take advantage of. We don't have that. You hear from manufacturers now and then that they're offered significantly lower utility rates, like if they move to the south. I've heard that from a few manufacturers. And that's ultimately the concern here, is Wisconsin is a heavy manufacturing state per capita, the best manufacturing state next to Indiana. That's what we're going to lose if we continue to see these utility rates increase. We have to keep manufacturing because those are the middle-class jobs for Wisconsinites. And we have a long, proud history of great manufacturing that has provided those jobs in Wisconsin. That's what we're jeopardizing by having these high utility costs. It's the backbone of our economy. You know, government is sucking from our economy, and it's those manufacturing jobs that are going to be, that are the ones that underwrite these massive increases in spending. Tom Tiffany, where can people find more about you? Tom Tiffany.com. Simple. And go to at Tom Tiffany, W.I. If you want to see our social media, it is on fire every day. If you want to see how to win an election, go to our social media because we paint clear contrast every day between the Democrats and their extreme positions and what the average Wisconsinite actually thinks. And we put out common sense. solutions to the problems here in the state of Wisconsin with very clear contrast. Check it out. Thank you so much for coming into the studio today. Great to see you. And we are going to take a break on the Vicki McKenna Show. Matt Kittle is standing by from the Federalist investigative reporter. He's also a former investigative reporter here in Wisconsin as well and is one of the people who is following along with a preliminary hearing against Jim Troopus. Jim Troopus is I have detailed four months and months and months on this program is being persecuted in a political vendetta.

against Donald Trump with Jim Truppus as the proxy because he was Trump's campaign lawyer in 2020. Matt and I have both been, it's very difficult to kind of give you a big view of this preliminary hearing because it's still going on. It started at 9 a.m. It's still going on. And this is what I know. The Department of Justice didn't even send the case agent to the preliminary hearing, just sent someone who's reading. the affidavit and cannot answer any questions of the defense. The defense is allowed to ask questions. The only thing the case reader can say is, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. We also learned that the case reader apparently did not know that Joe Biden's running mate and then would be vice president was Kamala Harris. That's something we learned as well. So that's how smart the case or the assigned reader of the affidavit is. But what have you found out? Well, and we can certainly trust them to understand this system of alternate electors and what the law is and isn't surrounding it. Yeah, you're right. This preliminary hearing is still ongoing, eventually coming up. And I, you know. I haven't seen it yet, but there will be an expert witness testifying for the defense. His name is Lawrence Lessig, and that name might not mean anything to a lot of listeners. He's a Harvard University professor who is an absolute expert in this stuff. Wrote the book on 2020, he's no Republican. But he wrote in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel of all places, back almost two years ago, an editorial. And the headline was, about those Wisconsin fake electors, they had sound reason to vote for Trump. So he is about to, I would imagine, just dismantle. everything that Josh call and his agents who don't know who at least some of the candidates were in 2020. with, you know, very sound legal reasoning and historic precedent, but you and I, Vic, you have been talking about for a long time. What the press and the attorney general, the far-left attorney general in the state of Wisconsin calls fake electors, really just contingent electors, alternate electors that have been used on a number of occasions and almost used. In 2000, in the disputed election therein, Al Gore's campaign was mulling that over and ultimately decided not to use this strategy. Well, and Al Gore and not using that strategy, Ruth Bader Ginsburg said you should have used the strategy because now you don't have a slate of alternate electors. And your claim in this court is moot. So that's what happened when Al Gore chose not to take his attorney's advice and draft a slate of alternate electors.

Furthermore, there is evidence, and I'm sure this is going to be presented at the preliminary hearing because we know that Judge John Hyland didn't even bother reading any of the briefs, didn't read any of the materials. He just farmed out his entire case and the decision to an outside entity, one ex-Judge Frank Remington, is going to learn that Jim Troopers didn't even draft the document the elector signed. So again, how could he be, you know, guilty of forgery? It doesn't matter because the fix is in. Now, here's the good news. besides Lawrence Lessig, who yes, is a liberal law professor at Harvard and wrote the book on this, being there to testify. The good news is that courtroom was packed. That courtroom was packed today. And it was packed with people supporting Judge Troopers. It was absolutely to the gills. I know someone who was there who had to vacate a seat so that somebody from the outside could come in. It was standing out in the hallway to witness this. So this one's not going to be done under, you know, the cloak of secrecy with the only people in attendance, you know, the minions and water carriers of the Associated Press. supporting Jim Troopers and Ken Chesaubro and Mike Roman, the three accused under this politically driven prosecution. One thing to note about Chesero in this preliminary hearing that's extremely important is even Highland had to pause his portion, Chesabrose's portion of the hearing. Because there are legitimate allegations that the prosecutors in this case were taking information from Ken Chesabro, promising that he would be immune from certain things. And according to Chesabro, they absolutely, you know, did not follow their commitment on that front. And of course, that was being argued throughout. the morning that this shouldn't be allowed to pause, that there's no evidence to suggest this. But I think what we've learned over the last nearly a year and a half in all of this, is that Josh Call and his prosecutors are willing to do whatever it takes to meet the needs of their national Democrat pals who are telling them, keep pushing this because we got midterm elections coming up in 26, and this will be a perfect vehicle to roast Trump and his supporters on as we get to those critical midterms. Yeah, and I want to again remind people that they've scheduled an eight-week nationally televised trial and they have no intention of putting Jim Troopus on the stand as much as they have the intention of putting Donald Trump and Accentia on the stand because.

They put Jim Troopus on the stand. They put Ken Chesboro on the stand. They put Mike Roman on the stand. They put any of these people on the stand. And the case is going to fall apart. The whole purpose of the trial is to put Trump on trial and not actually try a case of forgery because they lose. But put Trump on trial so that a rigged Dane County jury, which is already cheering in the comment section of Madison News Facebook pages, fry him, fry him, fry him. they're pretty sure they're going to be able to get a rig jury in Dane County. This is curious, Matt. This was just released today by Devin Lemieux, and I don't want to miss an opportunity here. It says, that Devin Lemmyhew announces a special committee on the oversight of the Wisconsin Department of Justice, quote, the people of Wisconsin deserve transparency and accountability from every corner of their government. The special committee will ensure that the Department of Justice, an agency created and funded by the legislature, is operating within its statutory authority serving the public interest, not the agenda of third party or outside organizations. He then announced that Mary Felskowski, Senator Felskowski, would be chair of the committee. And Senator Felskowski put out this statement, Wisconsinites to serve a Department of Justice that acts for them, not against them. Outside influence from highly self-interested sources is unacceptable in the work of this committee over the coming months to determine what is actually happening at the DOJ is very important. So it sounds like maybe some of you and I and some of the other people, we thought we were screaming into the wind of a hurricane, maybe some of that got through to the Senate. I think that Senator Ron Johnson's letter to the DOJ late last week had a big impact. And I do believe that particularly what you have been doing, you have been pushing this on a very regular basis. And that has been very important in the state of Wisconsin. I write a lot of different pieces about a lot of different election law issues and other things. And so I can't fully concentrate on this story and give it the... full treatment that I would love to do, as you remember we did with the John Doe investigation, that said, you know, this is what we see over and over again. The Associated Press story, the first story on it today, you would have no idea any of the stuff that we talked about, what was going on by the story that they produced today. You'd have no idea that the Josh call in the Department of Justice there. Their prosecutors had, you know, argued for, I don't know how long, 15, 20 minutes to try to keep Lessig from testifying today. Now, why would they do that? This Harvard law expert. This is what's going on. And I think that finally, finally, Republicans in leadership in the state legislature have said, hey.

Enough is enough here. Yeah, I think it finally, there was a tipping point. There was a tipping point. The Dane County GOP put out a call for people to pack the courtroom and people heeded the call. The legislature has finally reacted. This is, of course, after Senator Johnson's letter. You're exactly right about that. Fox News is Mike Davis featured this story prominently over the weekend as well. It's fascinating that they would try to make it so that Jim could not present a witness. in a preliminary hearing. You didn't even send your case agent. You sent a reader who didn't know who Joe Biden's running mate was in 2020. and they were trying to stop, I imagine, probably not the sharpest tools in the drawer from DOJ trying to stop Lawrence Lessig from testifying. We'll see what Judge Highland, who, again, never even read any of these briefs, just shot it all over to Frank Remington, who's not even a judge, so that Frank Remington could pen all of Judge Highland's opinions, he being the puppet judge in Dane County. This could get really, this could get really ugly, and especially with this committee. I guess we call them an audit committee at the Senate, because it's not just Jim Troopus, it's Doug Diney. It's the mayor of Wausau who's being prosecuted, whose wife's cell phone was seized, whose house was tossed because he dared try to follow the law on ballot drop boxes. In Wausau, Wisconsin, he's being persecuted as well. That's kind of an underreported story, but another part of the political persecution process of Josh Kahl, while he doesn't bother to analyze crime scene evidence. Lots of understandable questions and concerns about prosecutorial abuse and you need to look no farther than the cases that we've talked about. The mayor in Wausau was treated horribly over a difference of opinion. And by the way, the mayor of Wausau's opinion on the law, as it stood on the time, regarding absentee ballot drop boxes, was the correct reading of the law. Then conservative-led Supreme Court had ruled and weighed in on that. But, you know, this is the sort of stuff that we've seen over and over again, and we see it over and over again. Because this is a prosecutor by proxy. This is a prosecutor. It would seem to me based on everything that I've investigated so far is doing the bidding of a national force. Yeah, I think the national force is probably also the one that's writing everything he says and scripting everything he says. Maybe he could ask his puppet masters if it's okay to analyze forensic.

data from crime scenes in Wisconsin so that victims can have some justice in court too. Matt, I am out of time in this segment. Thank you very much for joining me. You bet. Lessig is up now, by the way. Tune in, folks. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. That is it for me. I'm going to send everybody off on their merry way. Have a great afternoon. We'll be back here tomorrow on the program. Remember, I'm also on 9 to 11. You can hear the earlier portion of my show on the I Heart Radio app. And the man himself, Jim Troopis, will be joining me in studio on tomorrow's program. Everybody have a great afternoon. We'll see you back here on the Vicki McKenna Show. What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky, and America is turning 250. And I can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, SpinQuest.com. With all of your favorite games, live craps, bubble craps, live blackjack, there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes. SpinQuest.com. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. Got plans this summer? A brewery crawl? Another lake trip? The same festival you've been to three times already? Do something different. This August, Virginia International Raceway becomes the ultimate summer destination. Watch Inns's Michelin GT Challenge at VIR, August 21 through 23rd, bring some of the fastest sports cars to battle through VIR's legendary corners. Camp with friends, enjoy live music, and experience a weekend you'll actually be talking about afterward. Start planning now at govIR.net. Hey, this is Ryan Sechrest here, and I have discovered a fun to escape from the daily grind. Chumba Casino. Chumba Casino has hundreds of social casino-style games. It's all free to play anytime, anywhere, with daily bonuses. So get to Chumbacasino.com. No purchase necessary. VGW. Group. Boy, we're prohibited by law. See, terms and conditions, 21 plus. Saturday, July 25th. I know I will be the best walk away in the world. An undefeated phenom. That man is a rising star. And a frightening force. What a win for Shemiel Musayev? Ascend on the nation's capital to fight for gold. Thad, the silverback jeans. Silverback nation makes some noise. Versus Camille Moussayev. All it's over! For the PFL welterweight world title. On real. Saturday, July 25th and 10 p.m. Eastern on ESPN. The best skaters, BMX riders and moto athletes in the world don't compete in leagues. Until now. The X-Games League Championship is live from New Orleans, July 24th through 26th. Three days of elite action sports, plus performances from Metro Boomin, J-I-D, Subtronics, and Bunt. Watch on ABC, ESPN and ESPN 2. Stream on the ESPN app, Roku, Kick, Amazon, and X-Games YouTube. The inaugural champion gets crowned this July.