The Vicki McKenna Show (WIBA)April 16, 20261h 49m

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to rig the impeachment process. So where does that leave us? First off, the impeachment was phony. It was phony. There was no evidence. So it was 100% phony. So the impeachment from the House, of course, it died in the Senate. This is on the Ukraine phone call. But the impeachment still stands. He wasn't removed from office, but he was impeached on false pretenses based on. People who made it up. What to do? President Trump has a number of options. Not the least of which is demanding that the United States Supreme Court vacate the impeachment immediately. It's something he should do. Demand the state Supreme Court vacate the impeachment immediately. But he should prosecute people. There should be hearings. And I mean hearings that result in charges or criminal referrals at least for investigation on Adam Schiff, on Nancy Pelosi. This is a huge story. Remember when he was impeached? That was a huge story, right? How about the impeachment being a fake political operation? Kind of a big story. Let's move over to the proud boy's story, which actually is related. Why is it related? Because they also lied the same operatives that faked the impeachment, the Democratic Party, specifically in the U.S. House of Representatives, lied. during the January 6th committee hearings. The fake January, actually, it's a real committee, but it was a phony committee because it would not allow exculpatory information or honesty. You've got Bill Cassidy Hutchinson who's also been referred for criminal investigation and prosecution who lied at the January 6th committee. What was the point of the January 6th committee to tee up impeachment number two? But the proud boys, which is just this group of guys, mega guys, whatever, the Capitol protests, including one who was not even there, were all racked up on federal charges and needed pardons from President Trump. The docu dump two days ago showed that there was exculpatory information for those guys and the Democrats hit it. The January 6th committee hid it. Hid it so that the exculpatory information saying these guys didn't do anything that would even rise to the level of prosecution. wasn't allowed to be presented to their lawyers. Also a big story. The entire January 6th insurrection narrative has fallen apart, not that the media has told you anything about it. So has the, and by the way, the January 6th fake insurrection story is the argument for impeachment number two. It's the argument for trying to put my friend Jim Troopus in prison in Wisconsin. And yet another major. element of the J6 hoax has just been exposed and falling apart, not that anybody would know. The first impeachment has been exposed and fallen apart, not that anyone would know. Because you're not hearing it, right? You're reading it front page in Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Wisconsin State Journal. Hearing it. Top of the hour news. Nope.

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Not that anyone would know. And it doesn't matter to the Democrats. They got what they wanted. They got their political operation target. All right. We're going to take a quick break on the Vicki McKenna Show. I want to come back and talk a bit more about the utter lack of interest in this massive bombshell story of the DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, releasing 800 pages of proof. that the impeachment of Donald Trump was a lie. 800 pages. Oh, really? That's a story. I would challenge anyone to just walk around today and say, hey, did you hear that the government has proved that the Trump impeachment was just a gigantic fake political operation based on a guy who made stuff up? Nobody will know. You won't find a single person. not unless they're listening to, you know, MAGA podcasts or talk radio. We'll take a quick break in the Vicki McKenna show. All right. Welcome back to the program. This story is so unbelievable. It is. I mean, so many people should be racked up on charges, although the statute of limitations for a lot of this has probably run out. Who's involved in this? If you go back to the 2019 impeachment, or rather the 2000, well, the 2016 investigation, the Russia collusion hoax into the 2019 impeachment, what do you get? You get all of these actors who are going on cable news. You had people like the intelligence community, ICA, Atkinson, he was a holdover from the Obama administration, Michael Atkinson. What Tulsi Gabbard revealed was that he deliberately withheld this information from the house. He deliberately withheld the information. All of the information, he had derogatory information about all the witnesses, and he deliberately withheld the information. He knew Eric Charmela lied. He knew that they were lying under oath when Adam Schiff and Eric Charmella claimed they never spoke with each other, and Nancy Pelosi never had conversations. All of this is revealed in these documents. Atkinson knew. Atkinson was an Obama holdover. Atkinson was also part of the Obama holdover team that launched lawfare from within the administration against all of the Trump targets.

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It's in the 800 pages. But it gets even better than that. It gets even better than that. After Trump lost, so he was impeached, he wasn't removed, but he was impeached. After Trump lost in 2020. What else has been revealed since then, thanks to the efforts of Tulsi Gabbard and related to the first Trump impeachment? Because remember, the first Trump impeachment was supposedly about Trump trying to pressure Volodymyr Zelensky to cough up derogatory information about Hunter Biden so that Donald Trump could go after him. Never happened. Wasn't true. What do we find out later as what appears to be a direct quid pro quo? That Volodymyr Zelensky. was working to launder money into the DNC to support the candidacy of Joe Biden. That's what we find out. That Volodymyr Zelensky was laundering money into the DNC to support the candidacy of Joe Biden. So, and I'm not sure how the communications went between the DNC and the Biden campaign. But we have the information that the money was laundered. I don't know what the quid pro quo was, but it certainly does appear that there is a quid pro quo. This is all being reported right now, by the way, by John Solomon at Just the News. John Solomon formerly was the chief investigative reporter for the Hill and has also done, he's had a 45-year career of investigative journalism. He's the one who is. revealing all of this if anybody's paying attention though virtually no one is so we have everything tied everything is tied to this first impeachment everything is tied to it the second impeachment is tied to the first impeachment so january sixth is tied to the first impeachment the you know Volodymyr Zelensky for I mean, forever we could not figure out how we were just pouring Iranian-sized pallets of cash into Ukraine and it goes disappearing into oligarchs bank accounts and nobody cared. Now we know, probably. Because it was a quid pro quo. Between... the Biden campaign or the DNC and Volodymyr Zelensky. So we know that's related. And we know the lawfare is related because the entirety of the lawfare begins with the first impeachment of President Trump. These were all Obama admin DOJ holdovers who are working underneath the undercurrent of the legal process to try to put a news around Trump's neck by hook or by crook. So they move on from impeachment. They succeed, but they failed. They did succeed because they did get them impeached. We got a quid pro quo. We're going to support Volodymyr Zelensky in the Ukraine war. We don't care that billions of dollars just get funneled into oligarchs bank accounts so that people can live high on the hog while a bunch of folks are dying and there's a quagmire in Eastern Europe. So that's a payoff, apparently.

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The January 6th fake insurrection, which was to tee up the second impeachment, which was to prevent Trump from ever running again, which was also to telegraph to all of MAGA that you are going to be targets comes out of the funnel of lawfare that begins with the original Russia collusion hoax and the first impeachment. Mary McCord, Michael Adkinson, the whole shebang. That's still ongoing, by the way. They get what they want. And when they are exposed, it's irrelevant because no one's talking about the exposure. So everything we were saying, because it was kind of obvious at the time, this was all going on, everything we were saying back then is true. It was 100% true. It wasn't hard to call because it was easy to see what was going on. But now we have proof it's true. And we're still waiting to see some kind of accountability for what amounts to a permanently embedded apparatus that seems able to launch attacks from within the U.S. government on a dime. January 6th was an inside job. It was an inside job. We know it was an inside job. Nancy Pelosi knew it was an inside job. Teeing up riots isn't hard. Setting it up for failure isn't hard. And that's what we have already proved that happened. But again, the whole point of it. is to make the argument, number one, to impeach Trump and number two, to imprison the entire conservative political apparatus. So not only that Trump can never win again, but that MAGA principles will never rise and never, you know, take hold, and that the Republicans are too afraid to fight the deep state. Because every single one of the Republicans who tried to fight the deep state was somehow targeted by lawfare. This all connects. And it all connects back to who? Barack Obama. It connects back to Barack Obama. Mary McCord, Michael Atkinson, the entire Obama team is who did this? Everyone says, well, it connected to Hillary Clinton. No, it connected to Barack Obama. And what do we know today? What is going on today that is also connected to Barack Obama? That is also just simply an extension of this longgoing operation to undermine any fight against the United States permanent government. The permanent government, which is USAID, which is all of the agency apparatus. It's the embedded bureaucrats. It's all of the lawyers. It's all of the bean counters, the paper pushers. It's all of the people of permanent Washington. It's the intelligence community. How is Obama connected to that today? Well, it's Barack Obama's operation that is teed up Pope Leo to attack President Trump. to divide evangelicals and Catholics ahead of the 2026 election. David Axelrod is not a Catholic. David Axelrod is not a Christian. There is no reason for Pope Leo to meet with David Axelrod. It's an operation. It's obviously an operation out of nowhere. It comes out of the Vatican, a tax on President Trump. So they keep trying to get him. They keep trying to get Trump.

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And they keep kind of missing their target. But they sort of land a punch or two. They sort of land enough body blows to do some damage. And that's worth it to them. The Democratic Party is still taking its orders from Team Obama, the Chicago community organizer. It was in the beginning of the first Trump impeachment. It was in the second Trump impeachment. It was in the January 6th operations. And it, and it, whether it was directly related to Volodymyr Zelensky, I don't know, but certainly there was a quid pro quo that was going on between the DNC and Volodymyr Zelensky that ultimately, I think, resulted in Joe Biden doing a solid for Volodymyr Zelensky by pouring billions of dollars in cash. But that's not necessarily directly tied to Barack Obama. That certainly is directly tied to Joe Biden. That may not be part of the Obama op, but it's, it's sort of part of the general. It's in the general vicinity of it all. But put that one aside for a second. Obama has been driving this car since he left office. His team has been driving the car since we left office on lawfare, on impeachment. now on the attacks on Trump, because Trump had managed to make deep inroads into American, young, particularly young American Catholics, to pick Catholics against evangelicals because what is the base of the conservative movement in the United States? It's evangelicals. If you get them together with Catholics, that's a, I mean, that's a tough column that you're going to have to overcome in upcoming elections. So that's where we are. The second, third, well, actually, we're in the third and fourth presidency of Barack Obama. Until that guy and his minions are either held accountable or they all get so old they die off, that's what we're stuck with. I don't know if Trump sees it that way. I can't be the guy. But at this point, you've... It's kind of hard not to just understand who the puppet master of this whole thing is. And the puppet master of this whole thing is the former president of the United States, Barack Obama. All right, we're going to take a break on the program. I want to come back and talk about some local stuff that is going on. We've got a number of pieces of information, whether it relates to education spending, whether it relates to, you know, it changes that. Democrats are trying to make in the state of Wisconsin. We'll come back and we'll reset on that. We'll get back to national stuff coming up a little bit later as well. We'll be right back. And welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. All right. Let's go back to Wisconsin. Somebody emailed me by the way and said the last draw was when the California bar took away the license and went after John Eastman. That wasn't my last draw. My last straw was when they started putting working class guys in prison simply for showing up with American flags and walking inside the Capitol in January 6th. That was my last straw. All right. Let's come back to Wisconsin here for a second. There was a recent Supreme Court decision that rendered, quote, conversion therapy bans unconstitutional.

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Talk therapy. So if someone comes into, say, a therapist or goes to a pastor or a priest and is gender confused or something like that, these laws would make it illegal for those therapists or those pastors or whatever to counsel someone that included a rejection of their gender identity. So Daniel Danger, I always say your name wrong from Wisconsin Family Action is standing by partnering with Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty to demand that Tony Evers and the administrative ban on, quote, conversion therapy or talk therapy with regard to gender identity, sexuality, et cetera. Daniel, welcome to the program. Yeah, thanks for having me, Vicki. All right, so this Supreme Court decision, and I talked to Dan Lenington when it happened, I said these states are going to be dragged kicking and screaming into compliance with the Supreme Court decision. It appears here we are in Wisconsin, where the state of Wisconsin didn't make a move, even though it's as simple as an administrative rule change, at least with regard to the state prohibition against conversion therapy. Yeah, well, and again, what we see in this situation is we see a liberal governor, Tony Evers, is just forced upon his far-left liberal ideology. And again, this is not what the left use is if they like to play these word games, and they like to really mislead the public on this. And so they'll use things that were used maybe 50, 6 years ago, things like shock therapy, things that I don't know of anyone, in Christianity, I don't know of anyone in... and counseling therapy that would recommend shock therapy or anything that can cause physical harm to someone. But this is a situation where let's say that there's a family, a Christian family, a young Christian person who says, I am struggling with gender dysphoria. I know God has made me to be a boy or I know God has made me to be a girl, but I am struggling on gender dysphoria. I want to see help and get help from a licensed mental health professional to address the root cause. And unfortunately, what we have seen with the Evers administration, what we've seen from these other liberal leaders around the country, is they said, no, you can only affirm LGBT ideology. And so, again, it's interesting they use this language of a conversion therapy ban, but really the only thing that they want to have is they want to convert our children towards theology. Yes, that's true. So this is, they basically say you can't treat someone with gender dysphoria unless you engage in our version of conversion therapy, which is to promote, promote, promote. And we just have had recent evidence as multiple studies now have come out, longitudinal studies. You're talking about massive suicidal ideation increases in young people who have been affirmed. You are talking about, you know, massive damage that have come to, quote, detransitioners or the kids who have actually gone through medical or chemical transition.

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And so this is just basically saying if you would like to have your child avoid being induced into that conversion to LGBTQ ideology, you're going to have to fight the state of Wisconsin, even if the Supreme Court said it's perfectly fine for you to seek out a mental health therapist or a Christian pastor or whatever that is to help your kid. Yeah, and again, what's really unfortunate with this whole thing, and again, there's legitimate things that people are going through, there's mental health issues. Our perspective, as Christians, as an organization, is not that we want to harm these people, not that we're opposed to them, but we believe that truth is what really helps someone. I have a friend that she told me about her story and struggle with anorexia, and she said what helped her get through the anorexia was helping her understand her reality. And it's the same exact thing for those that are struggling with gendered dysphoria. And when we hide with that reality is when we affirm something that is false, it actually causes more damage and more pain. And what's really unique with this case is the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 8 to 1 that what Governor Evers has done is unconstitutional. And we are pushing, we are saying, you need to remove this. And if you don't, be ready for a lawsuit. And this is why it just so... interesting, unique from the broader argument and perspective that I thought was interesting the liberals brought out is we had an 8 to 1 U.S. Supreme Court victory on this because even the liberals recognized and saw, wait, if liberal states can tell people that they can't affirm biological gender, well, what stops red states from saying that you can't affirm LGBT ideology? And so that was one of the reasons they sided with us on this. But again, we need to see the governor's administration rule back on this. And Vicki, you'll remember that this was the case that they used. They use, oh, we need to have conversion therapy, and we need to make sure we get rid of the administrative rules process through the legislature to make Governor Evers the edict, to make his edict as a queen-like power. And again, this had no legislative oversight because the Supreme Court of Wisconsin said, nope, this is the issue. We're going to say that because it's so big, it's so important, we will not allow for the legislature to come in and represent. us, we the people, and we're going to let Evers do whatever he wants in his executive office. You know, I do wonder, and I guess this would be a question for the lawyers, but I do wonder if this Supreme Court decision, based on the logic in the Wisconsin Supreme Court decision, if those two things clash in such a way that you could actually challenge. their determination to take away oversight of rules. Because this is a rule. Now, there are ordinances as well. I know lacrosse has got an ordinance, I think. Milwaukee County, I believe, has an ordinance. I think Dane County, if they kicked it around, they probably passed it. So all of these things are not constitutional. All of these ordinances, they all rely on Wisconsin Administrative Code, and thank you for helpfully providing this for me. MPSW20.025. That's the Wisconsin Administrative Code. They're all pointing to that and the Wisconsin Supreme Court decision. And you currently have a therapist in Wisconsin who is being told she cannot provide.

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Support services if she refuses to affirm gender dysphoria. Yeah, and again, you mentioned a handful of municipalities that have gone this way. I saw Wisconsin Watch, which I know we are not a big fan of Wisconsin Watch, where they did an article a handful of years ago, counting look at these 14 amazing comedies that have gone forward with stifling free speech. And one of those was Appleton. I saw a report from a local reporter in Appleton. It was really unique. So Appleton passed this six years ago. And when the question came up of, are you going to rescind this unconstitutional order, the response is kind of a little bit like, well, I don't really see why we need to because we're not really doing anything with it. So it goes back to it, well, what is the reason that they're doing in the first place? But what they want to do is they want to stifle free speech? They want to scare people from getting the help that they really need because ultimately what they want to do is they want to advance the far-left LGBT ideology. Yeah. And by the way, this doesn't just end the problem because you have schools of social work, you have various different curricular materials that are training, you know, the next generation of mental health or family therapists. And so, you know, you're still going to have to continue the fight. The first thing that needs to happen is this administrative rule needs to go away. Just go away. Well, good. I'm glad this came out quickly because, you know, they would kick and scream. It would dissuade people from offering effective therapy because they would fear being prosecuted or having to expense dollars in a court fight. They don't necessarily, not everybody wants to sue the government. Not everybody wants to have to go through that. So. sooner rather than later on this. And again, I do wonder if this is going to have an impact on the overall logic of the decision that says there doesn't need to be any legislative oversight because the state legislature was stopping this for the longest time. I want to get to something else, Daniel. So this is Wisconsin Family Action. And, you know, there was a time in Wisconsin. where sort of family values groups, pro, you know, conservative, pro-life Christian groups were, I mean, they were kind of having a moment. And, you know, ever since, I don't know what happened, but all of a sudden we just, I guess, decided on the right, the powers that be decided on the right, that we weren't going to fight on those battlefields anymore. And they've been running the table with us. So the latest from the Democrats feeling so comfortable. with the, I think, lack of organization perhaps on the right with regard to Christian family values is to introduce legislation that would legalize prostitution in Wisconsin. I'm sure you've seen this. One of the lead sponsors is the leading Democrat candidate for governor, Francesca Hong. And so, I mean, without, there was virtually no coverage on this, but they're feeling pretty confident here. in our, I think, still purple state that they're going to be able to essentially run the table on culture issues.

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Oh, absolutely, Vicki. This is where I think it's so important for conservatives, for those candidates that are running in November to be bold on where they stand on social issues, to be bold that the far left, the Francesca Hans of the world, those sort of people, they really do want to take over. And again, going back to the issue we talked about with the conversion therapy ban, what was really unique and interesting, the day that came out was also the day that Governor Ivers vetoed. all of our pieces of legislation on bringing sanity back to the gender issue. And he actually touted how great his conversion therapy ban was, even though it was just real unconstitutional. And we see, again, whether it's Francesca Hong with this case, whether it's Governor Ivers promoting transgenderism and every single thing he can do, whether it's we see Calder Royce, who just got the teacher union endorsement. authoring legislation that would allow for abortion through all nine months of pregnancy and allow for, remember the adage of, you know, abortion should be a decision between a woman and her doctor. Well, now they want to have, in Colorado Royce's bill, they want to allow for a nurse to be able to provide. telehealth, quote, telehealth medicine to provide abortion pills over the mail from California. Again, all these very far left social ideologies that we see from the left, they're going to go as far left as they can, especially in this Democrat primary. And this is an important time for conservatives to be able to stand up and say, no, you've gone too far. And I'll just share a quick example, a quick story. And I really appreciate, as you mentioned, some are running away, but the ones that are running towards them are doing well. Eric Tony is running for Attorney General, and Eric Tony has done a really good job to say, right now in Wisconsin, abortion is legal through five months. That is where our state Supreme Court has given us. But what have we seen from the liberal Democrat Attorney General, Josh Kahl? He has said that there should be absolutely no protections for the unborn. He said there should be no restrictions for abortion. That means abortion through all nine months of pregnancy. And what I've appreciated about Eric is Eric has run all forward into that messaging and showing it how far left Josh Kahl is. And one of the things that I think is showing success from that is Eric is getting people who are traditionally Democrats, even DAs, to come around and support him because they say, man, abortion through all nine months of pregnancy, that is too far. And we need to have some sanity on these issues. And you have to understand that when your candidate, when your far left candidate, in this case, Josh Kahl says that this is what I think, he won't support prosecuting people who violate existing Wisconsin state law. So that's the other, that's the second half of that is he's essentially saying, I'm not going to forward any prosecutions. And any liberal DAs are not going to go forward with any prosecutions because it's a criminal violation of law. That's what they're already telling you that, you know, we don't like the law. And so we're just going to do whatever we want to do with it. And what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do, conservative Christians? What are you going to do about it, you know, right to life people, pro-life people? What are you going to do about it? You know, family values voters? Because in the last, you know, I don't know, six election cycles, they haven't done much. And we have not seen, even though we've seen good works by the legislature on some of these issues, we have not seen that translate into organizing people when it comes time.

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to vote for candidates, to support candidates to get the message out. And that's what really concerns me because I don't think Wisconsin is a deep blue state. And everybody wants to have Francesca Hong's idea that we should have legalized prostitution, Keldit Royce's idea that we should have abortion to the very last moment of pregnancy, Tony Evers' idea that you should tell a kid who's gender confused, that he should take hormones and lop his private parts off. I don't think that's where the majority of Wisconsin stands. Oh, absolutely, Vicki. You're 100% right. And what I get really encouraged with that I'm thankful for the state legislature giving us this opportunity is we all remember what happened in 2020. When Evers tried to make his own edict and say, you weren't allowed to go to church, you can go get alcohol at the liquor store, but you're not allowed to go to church. We can't have people going there. And so, thankfully, the legislature has given us the voters, we have the voters, the opportunity to protect our churches from ever being shut down again in a public health emergency. And we believe that as well as these other issues is a great opportunity for Christians and conserves around the state to get to the voting booth, to vote and ensure that their church will never be shut down once again from the government. Yeah, that's, by the way, we're going to have that as a constitutional question. So hopefully that's motivating to people. But again, we've got to, you know, we've got to get the old band back together. Because, you know, when these groups, and a lot of times the problem politically is that the groups have their own issues. It's not how the left works. That tends to be how the right works. So if it's the, you know, right to life. then they're working on one issue. And if it's moms for liberty and they're working on another issue, what we need to do is create that synergy that allowed Wisconsin to become for, you know, three election cycles, a pretty hardcore red state with some very good common sense pro-family, pro-Christian pieces of legislation that were passed. Thank you, Andre Jacques, for all of his efforts during the Walker administration. And it's not hard to do. It just takes. Someone who can come in and he can get these groups to understand that everybody's issue, if it's a conservative issue, is working toward the same goal in the end. Yeah, and one thing too, I would say, Vicki, it's so important for legislators to understand is right now it looks like it's going to be very tight statewide. It looks like it's going to be very tight in the Senate. It looks like it's going to be very tight in the assembly. And if legislators want to be able to come back with majorities, if we want to be able to come back and have a governor Tom Tiffany, what we need to do is we need to work with everyone in the coalition. We can't say, oh, well, we can't, we're afraid we're going to offend too many people if we appear that we're Christian. It appears that we're going to offend too many people if we stand for sexuality issues or if we stand for life. No, this is the time where we need every part of our coalition to come around and know that the legislature, the governor, can't. They have our backs and they will fight for us because that's what we need to win elections. We need to get our voters out. And the way to get our voters out is to make sure that the messaging as well as the actions truly reflect conservative policing causes. Yeah, some of the actions have been pretty good.

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It's the fact that no one's hearing the message. That's where we're falling down. We're falling down, not because we haven't got good, you know, conservative MAGA and pro-life people in the legislature. I mean... I think of all the work Andre has done, all the work that Amanda Nadsweski has done. She's been busting her by Lindy Brill. There are some really incredible people who have been working on this stuff. And it's just that, you know, a piece of legislation will get drafted. Public hearings will take place. It will get passed. Tony Evers will veto it. And it's like a tree fell in the forest with nobody around to hear it. That's where our problem is. So I don't think we're losing on these issues. I think we think we're losing on these issues and it's hurting us. But again, thank you to Wisconsin Family Action for partnering with Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty on this particular issue to force Tony Evers to either Fisher cut, Fisher get sued on the issue of conversion therapy. Basically, Tony Evers trying to make sure that we're doing nothing but inducing transgender insanity into children's minds permanently. Where can people find out more about your organization, though? Or maybe there's some nascent group out there that says, geez, I'd like to partner with Wisconsin Family Action. I think these guys could be helpful to us. Yeah, well, we're happy to work with grassroots leaders all over the state or anyone in the state. We want to work with them if they have our shared values to be able to transform Wisconsin for biblical influence. And so you can find out about us at WIFamilyaction.org. That is WIFamilyaction.org. Thanks very much for coming on the program, Daniel. Appreciate it. Thank you. And we're going to take a quick break on the Vicki McKenna Show. And welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. Let's talk a little bit about weather porn, shall we? I find it fascinating that Wisconsin people get freaked out about weather, to the point where weather porn works here. I mean, it isn't like spring isn't volatile in Wisconsin. It always is, just like wintertime. You know, no one's out there talking to people who are saying, okay, it's spring in Wisconsin, right? I guess that's not interesting. It doesn't generate clicks. Instead, you have people freaking out like Sarah Godlessky did. And she's, of course, trying to just promote her climate change agenda because what she wants to do is strip us of access to hydrocarbon so that we have to pay even more than second highest in the Midwest for our utility costs so that her pals, BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, and Blackstone can make even more guaranteed profit thanks to state law, right? That's her thing.

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I guess it works because golf ball size tail freaks people out. It doesn't freak me out. It isn't that I'm saying that I'm dismissing, you know, damage done by golf ball size tail or the flooding in Milwaukee. When heavy rain falls in Milwaukee, water street floods. When heavy rain falls in Milwaukee, the West Dallas area goes underwater. American family field around that area. Bad drainage, old infrastructure, and a bad combined sewer system. It's been around, I mean, this is what it just happens. It's just what happens. It sucks. I'm not saying that it's fun. But it's what happens. But apparently everybody is just, even in Wisconsin, this is the state where we pride ourselves that we have a permanent population of people who wear shorts in the wintertime. But we react to this stuff. Oh, the news. Oh, my gosh. Look at the flooding pictures coming out of, you know, Milwaukee. They come out of Milwaukee every spring like that. They look like that every spring. One or two times. Everybody remember state fair last year? The floods? I do. It happens all the time. And it isn't that we don't have bad years or milder years because we do. We have bad years. This is like the fifth, at least according to recent records, the fifth, you know, most sort of volatile April up to this point that we've had. Not the most volatile April, but like the fifth. Why not explain it to people? Why not instead of saying, oh my gosh, what we have to do is cover blanket Wisconsin and solar panels that won't work and will be ruined, by the way, by golf ball size tail. Think about what golf ball size tail will do to solar arrays. L-O-L. Instead of fixating on that stupidity, again, I'm tempted to want to use the R word, and I won't. How about to explain what's going on? And maybe don't do things that will put you at risk. So the hail was coming down. Brandon lives in Ding County. What did Brandon do? Brandon bought, because you have to park your car outside. You bought a tarp, right? You're just like, geez, there's a hail storm. I mean, I could just hug you and high five your Boy Scout instinct on that. Smart move, Brandon. Thank you. I'm going to throw a tarp over my car. Ding, ding, ding. That's what I used to do. Actually, one time back when I was living way back when in Colorado, we were famous for massive wild hail back in the Denver area. I parked my car in the hail because I really wanted an insurance claim. My car, but it didn't do anything. Anyway, so if you know about it, contend, right? What is going on? We're coming off a La Nina. I look this up. We're coming off a La Nina. and we're moving into a neutral pattern of weather. And I'm not going to explain, La Nina. It has to do with what they call the Enso phenomenon, which is, I'll define this for you in a second here, because I had to look it up. What is La Nina? I mean, specifically, what is it? It has to do with the trade winds in the, in the warmth of the Pacific Ocean. Anyway, it affects us in the Midwest.

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And it generally means that we're going to have wetter conditions and neutral to cooler temperatures. We're moving into a neutral pattern, which means we're going to be between, this is, by the way, a phenomenon that has been observed since 1578. This is not new. It is an old phenomenon that was first observed and documented in 1578, the El Niño la Nina pattern. And they have to do the same thing. They're the opposite sides of the same pattern. So we're coming off Alanini, which means wetter conditions in the Midwest, typically, particularly around the Great Lakes region, particularly around the Great Lakes region, wetter. So we're moving into a neutral pattern, which likely means that we're going to have, you know, more kind of regular feeling weather. And then there is a prediction that we're going to move into an early El Nino, which they say could be a particularly strong El Nino, which means we could have warmer and drier temperatures earlier than normal, meaning maybe like July. or August. So normally we would wait to see those patterns emerge, but we may have a warmer late summer and drier late summer. So that could happen. It's anyone's guess what the impact is going to be, but this is a pattern that's gone back to 1578.

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Sorry, that's what's what has resulted in this. And as Bonner-Cohen explained yesterday, it's cold air. You know, you've also got the impact of cold air and warm air colliding, which creates the storms that we always see in the Midwest in April. And it's nothing in Wisconsin compared to what it is in Oklahoma. I mean, what we're experiencing or on the eastern side of, I forget the county, I think it's Arapaho County. In Colorado, it's just, I mean, what we experience here is not, I mean, they kind of laugh at us, which it doesn't mean it doesn't suck if you're the one who got flooded or you're the person whose car got damaged by hail. That doesn't make it any easier. But it's pretty normal anyway. They're trying to make this into a political issue in our state. Because the whole climate cabal has begun to fall apart. The CO2 pollutant designation by the EPA, they call it the endangerment finding. That's been rescinded. You have had multiple project subsidies canceled by the Biden administration. You have had the exposure of essentially manipulated energy modeling. torn apart publicly by Lee Zeldin at the EPA and the Trump, I hope I didn't say by the administration, Trump administration. So you've had all of this happen. So the sort of the native argument for the climate scare. based on the models or the endangerment finding or whatever, it's gone. So now you've got to come up with something new. And always you have severe weather. You can always point to severe weather to sort of freak people out and keep their eyes off how the sort of the whole political structure of climate politics has fallen apart under Trump. The climate change is the political theory of everything. So climate change and race are the political theories of everything. If both of those things come apart for the Democrats, they're going to be in tough shape because they have used it to justify so much insanity. Your high electricity costs in Wisconsin are justified by their political. cause of climate change. The disaster in crime, the mayhem in public schools, that has been justified by the political ideology of race. So if those two things go away, a huge amount of their political power is at risk. So when you see Sarah Godlessy, is she so dumb that she's never seen golf ball size tail? I just, maybe.

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but probably not, given that she grew up here. So they need to kind of keep you weather porn from the news stations is a way to keep you worried about climate because they have now conflated climate and weather and they have for about the last 15 years. So that's to keep you worried and not paying attention. to the actual issue of energy. Keep worrying about climate, and then you won't worry about what we do to continue to jack your utility rates in the state of Wisconsin. Don't pay any attention to the actual legal structure that allows us to do this. Don't tear it apart. Don't rock the boat. And the Democrats reckon that maybe they can just hang on long enough that Trump goes away or dies and that MAGA eventually implodes and they can be, you know, they can reset all of this madness solar and wind and, you know, lunacy that we have at least put a pause on right now. So weather porn in Wisconsin, we should be impervious to it. But apparently we're not. We'll take a quick break on the Mickey McKenna show. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna show. Quickly tying up on weather, okay, for just a second. What we do? What do we do when we hear storm warnings, right? We look out the window and then we think, can I go outside and watch this thing? I mean, that's what we do in Wisconsin. So I assumed we were impervious to weather porn. Maybe we're not. But one other thing, again, in the realm of preparedness. If you're in a town like I am, the tornado siren will go off because the county set it off because I live in a small town. It's probably not true in Dane County. Each individual area has their own siren. In Madison, there's a couple of them. But in my case, the siren goes off, and I live in Jefferson County. If it's in far southeastern Jefferson County, and that's where the tornado warning is, I'm still getting the warning, even though I'm in the center part of the county. And so we've kind of trained ourselves not to pay attention to it. Isn't that something? So if you're in an area like me, I highly recommend. Noah has got a paid weather app that can do very precise warning locations. I highly recommend that Android and iPhone. But if you don't want to pay for it, your other weather apps do these very specific warnings and your weather radios do them as well. You can actually set your zone on your weather radio. So just in the interest of preparedness, and because apparently we've become quite wimpy with regard to our tolerance for weather. in our state, I would recommend those things. Okay, I do those things myself, so I would recommend them to you. Alvin Louis is standing by from Courage as a Habit. We're not going to talk about weather, though apparently we could do that all day long. Everyone loves it. But I want to talk about where the woke came from, and you guys did a deep dive. And you said, in your analysis, this stuff comes from a very, very narrow segment that has an outsized influence in public schools. So thank you for joining me on the program. What did you guys find out in your deep dive into how we all of a sudden woke up one day and the schools were just insane? Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. On, as always, love talking to you.

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You guys do such a great show. And thank you for having me an opportunity to talk about this new exposure that we found literally this last week. So there is several, maybe about like three or four major transgender organizations in this country. One of them is Gleast. Well, it used to be called Gleaston. G-L-S-E-N. Now it's called Glyston. It doesn't matter. All the acronyms are the same as basically this, you know, transgender nonsense. But what makes Gleaston unique is that it's deep in all schools as after-school programs. Now, certainly it drives a lot of the transgender ideology through school counselors. It provides training materials, you know, professional development. But where it's really dangerous among the other transgender organization is that... It gives information and training on how to start after-school clubs. And so these teachers and these school counselors will take that, and they will sponsor an after-school club because a student cannot start a club without a sponsor. And so these teachers, these woke teachers and school counselors are happy. What brings us to this talking about that we can link to our site to the page. is that in these after-school clubs, Gliston literally rolled out yesterday, April 15th, and if it roll out, some schools might take it, get it, you know, in a few months. And what they're rolling out is data collection, surveys of these kids that are in these clubs already. Now, in the previous years, they're talking about like 2,000, 2,500 students, something like that. So all across the country is a very narrow, like you said, a very small amount of data. But what they're doing is they're serving kids who are already brainwashed. And so the surveys that come out of these after-school clubs that 99.9% of parents don't even know about. is it always come back that these LGBTQ kids are feeling unseen, unsafe, unheard. They're suicidal. So what does that mean? It means the schools need to change policy. It needs to hire more teachers and school counselors for mental health. It needs more books and teachers that look like them and sound like them, representation. And so a lot of parents get this at the symptom level. And they're like, where is this coming from? Why do we have all these flags and representation and equity statements? Why do we have all this in our schools? And then the principal and the school board will say, oh, it's evidence-based. Research shows. Is data-driven? That sounds very familiar. Most parents would have heard those terms. But they don't know where that's coming from or it's coming from these types of fraudulent data collection.

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And then furthermore, once they collect enough of it in your local schools, the transgender cultists will work with your legislators, the Democrats, and they go to your legislator, like in Wisconsin, and they'll say, look at this data we've collected in schools. So many kids feel unseen, unheard, they're suicidal. Let me also explain that Glisten, which is a private organization, it's been around since about 1990. It works directly. with the NEA and the AFT. So the NEA, the National Education Association, AFT, American Federation of Teachers, two biggest teachers unions in the country. They work directly with the teachers unions. Second, they work directly with the American Association of School Counselors. So they have people on the board of the American Association of School Counselors from Glisten. What glisten starts is this club in 1995 or whatever. It's one club in California. It starts spreading like wildfire. It also advises the Democratic Party, and it has for years. So this is a private organization that has been insinuating itself for years. It began just gay, straight, and lesbian, right? That's what it used to. Now it's gay, straight, lesbian, and trans. Right. You have these student clubs. Right. And then your political organizers work with this has been going on forever. Work with the teachers union. Work with the school counselors draft policy, model policy. Okay, well, we don't want the kids who are gay or the kids who are trans to kill themselves or whatever. So this, this minuscule amount of data that has been collected each year from these after school clubs. for years and years and years is the reason why we have, you know, everything rainbow washed and gender identity today. I mean, they're a massive organization. They seem really minor in their footprint, but they're not. Their footprint essentially is the education establishment. You explained that absolutely perfectly. This is why we say this is fraudulent data. But because 99.9% of parents and Americans don't know about this, data have no argument against data-driven research shows evidence-based. And then, of course, the Democrats will say you're anti-science. These are just facts. Everybody agrees. And that's what they don't know. That's like they don't understand where that's coming from. You know, our toolkit does a few things. Number one, it exposes this. And then, of course, as always, we give parents a easy turnkey letter to copy and paste to their schools, opt their kids out. But the most important thing is we need to starve these schools of these after-school programs. Because they can run, you know, these lunatic school counselors can sponsor all they want, but if they get like two kids in there, that's not going to do anything. And so parents need to be aware that this is what's happening at these after-school clubs, and they need to get involved and make sure their child doesn't attend. Now, also, these clubs, let me just also say, sometimes they don't advertise them straight up as glisten or glisten clubs.

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For example, a friend of mine in Colorado, Aaron, she's done a great job in Colorado, but her daughter got invited to a art club. You know, it looks like it's an art club, and it turned out to be one of these clubs, and they trans her daughter. She was able to get her daughter out of it, but that was a big... And that happens a lot, too. So you have to, parents got to be very, very microly involved because a lot of these clubs are going to be disguised as other things as well. But, you know, our letter really kind of, you know, helps the parents kind of date that and digging that a little bit. The idea of using students and forming clubs, but of course no club can form if it's an official school club and has a teacher sponsor or a counselor sponsor or something like that has been weaponized by the left. So Glisten is one of the most successful because it starts, you know, years ago, it begins small and then... the political organizers move it into major apparatus like the teachers union or the school counselor association or whatever. Now it is actually, it's in curriculum. We actually have glisten materials that are presented to teachers with the expectation that the teachers use them, assume they are scientific, and present them in the classroom. So Scarlett Johnson has done that expose for us here. But there's, it's all of it. So I just talked yesterday about a group called Vossus de la Frontera. Bossessi La Frantira is very much like Glisten, only it's on the illegal immigration open borders front. They have school groups called, yes, youth empowered in the struggle. Not all the school groups formed under the umbrella of youth empowered in the struggle are called Youth Empowered in the struggle. Black Lives Matter did the same thing because Glisten created the roadmap on how you do this easily. It's much harder. to counter these groups with sort of conservative counterpoint groups, although we should try. But at the end of the day, the idea of after-school clubs, and the reality of that is what has allowed so much devastation to be done to school environments by adults using children as their weapon. That's 100% true. That's 100% correct. Now, let me read you one of the doctors. There's two doctors that's behind this survey and leading the research team at Gleason. I will read you one of their self. This is one of the doctors. His name is Dr. Yu Chi Wang. And this is how he described himself in a massive 2025 research paper that he helped write. This is how he described himself in his profile. He is a asexual, a gender. non-binary and trans-Taiwanese Asian American person. That is how he described himself. I read this word for word, and he is one of the author, one of the doctors, I quote doctors, behind this survey and this research. And if you go to our site, there's the, and we also featured the other doctor, too, who is equally insane.

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And so these are the people that are in your schools, grooming, manipulating, brainwashing your children, and then extracting the emotional blackmail data out of them to emotionally blackmail parent and then take it to the state house and change your policy in your schools, in your state, in your local government. We don't need to do it in Wisconsin. We don't need to take it to the State House to change policy. The superintendent of public instruction can do it by herself. And she is taking this data that has been extracted from emotionally manipulated children, very small number of them, by the way, and turning it into universal policy for all Wisconsin schools, which is why in Lodi or, you know, somewhere that nobody can even find on a map. In Wisconsin, the exact same conditions are there as are in Madison or Milwaukee or Racine where you'd expect it. You expect these outstate school districts like New Richmond, which we're talking a lot about in Wisconsin, this tiny little area in Wisconsin on the western edge of the state. Right. Very conservative area. That's why New Richmond has these policies. Because this group, which has been working with the Teachers Union, the school counselors. the administrators, the Democratic Party, the superintendent of public instruction, because they're the ones who are determining what your children are exposed to based on essentially fake data, data that has been manipulated in order to make some kind of case for the content, the sexualized content. And also this data is the bedrock of how they justify keeping transgender secrets from parents because parents are unsafe. How did they get that? It's because the kids are saying, I don't feel comfortable at home. So they're like, oh, the parents are dangerous and unsafe. And you know what I love about you, Vicki, is that you tackle things that a lot of outlets and shows don't cover because data collection is very boring. It's not as exciting as saying, oh, I found this book and look at this horrible image. Those things create outrage, but those are just high-level symptoms. And it's great, right? It gets people kind of in the door to fight. But the data, while boring and unsexy, it is the lifeblood of nearly everything from BLM to open borders. For sure, the transgender ideology. It's always about the data. And so many people miss that because it's not on the nose and exciting like, you know, something like, oh, we found this. No, because... Right. Things like that. We're telling you there's a groomer counselor or some kind of advisor for a student group. Let's say you've got 10 students. You've got 5 or 10 students. Maybe you got 50. And you put the idea in their head that they are unsafe. You are starting to seed that everybody, it's an echo chamber in that little group. And it's a small group, right? But there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them.

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And you, okay, everybody fill out this survey. And all of a sudden, you want to be, even if you're just supportive, you're kind of just not even sure if you're into this stuff. But you don't want to be the odd man out. Check the box. All of a sudden, it looks like everybody's transgender. It does. We've had this. We've seen this. Oh, no, it's at least 18% of Wisconsin public school students are transgender. No, they're not. This is based on the data you are talking about collected from. essentially after school clubs and other surveys where the pressure is induced to choose the answer that is politically correct or that will get you the approval of the left-wing teacher or counselor. That's right. And a lot of parents go, well, my kid doesn't go to the after-school club, so we're safe. You can't look at it that way. Number one, every child, let me just say, every child goes through surveys. They go through social emotional learning surveys, which is a whole different topic. So every child that goes to public school is being surveyed. in regular school hours. Okay, let me just say that. However, if it's just focusing on the glisten, it doesn't matter if your child doesn't go to these clubs. They are being impacted by the policies that come out of this fraudulent data. 100%. Because it's changed the entire, it has changed Wisconsin American schooling. 100% changed it where everything. is about identity or critical theory. Everything is. So when you and I were in school, we're not that far off of age, it wasn't like that. It had just begun to happen. And we don't even recognize the classrooms. We don't even recognize the content. We don't, we're trying to bend our head around how you can have 37% reading in math proficiency in Wisconsin and nobody seems to care because it's not the point. The point is, that's not the point of education. Right. Yeah, that's not the point of education. This is the point of education. And again, it begins with something that seems innocuous. So it's just an after school club. It's more than that. Right. Where can people learn more about this album? Because it is time to take the next step beyond the outrage at the book and the library. Yes. It is time for people to take the next step. So where can people learn more and get your help? Absolutely. So it's courage is a habit.org. If you go to courage is a habit.org, courage is a habit.org right now, you can click on tool of the week, and it will take you to this glisten toolkit. This exposure, we explain, you know, everything that we talked about and more is on this page. If you're, you know, we're going to leave it up for the next week and a half. So go there, use the letter, but here's the thing. You cannot just use the letter on your own. You've got to give it to five or six other parents.

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Because what we want is we want volume. We want 500, 1,000 parents, even though that's very small percentage. We want that many parents because the schools are very weak. When they get pushback by anything more than like 50, they start to break. So we want to make sure that there's this like huge firestorm of parents flooding them with this letter and then making them answer for it. And this letter is easy. It's copy and paste. All you've got to do is fill out your child's name, your name. and your school's principal, and we got you covered. So take the action and then share it, share our site, share our page, share that letter. You've got to take action. We can complain on Facebook. We can do all those things, but you've got to take action, and that's what courage is a habit gives you action. Alvin Llewit, thank you so much for joining me on the program today. Thanks, Vicki. You're the best. And we are going to take a quick break on the Vicki McKenna show. We're going to come back a little bit more on education. Why is DPI, the same DPI that can, you know, essentially buy edict, let these left-wing 501s NGOs take over education? How come they're not being transparent about how much they're spending on it? We'll get to that next. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. I would like to stay, if we can, just for a little bit of time on education and then move on to Wisconsin's tax environment here, it being just the day after tax day. But Will Flanders from Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty joins me in Will. I guess I'm... How are we not getting the accurate information on school spending? Why is it like a scandal that no media is reporting on that DPI is not providing us accurate information on how much money we are spending per kid in Wisconsin schools? I want to start there because we're just coming off an education topic. So this was kind of news to me. I guess I assume the data was accurate. Yeah, absolutely. So just to go back a little bit, you know, one of the big arguments in this new funding lawsuit from a number of the districts that were no longer spending enough on kids, the funding levels are inadequate. And so one thing we did is, you know, I went on the DPI's website a few weeks ago, pulled the data back to 2000 on spending, did inflation adjustment to it and showed that we're actually spending more than we were in the year 2000. So, you know, that sort of undermines their case, right? Spending is actually up over 2,000 adjusted for inflation. They like to use 2008-2009 because that's right before Act 10 was implemented, and that's the high mark of spending in the history of the state entirely. I went back to do some more work, and what I noticed is that since I pulled that data, DPI has taken down all of the data before 2008 in terms of what spending levels were. So if someone's trying to access this for the case, you know, if there are other folks that are interested in this data, it's no longer available on DPI's website, and this is the change that's happened since March. It's very difficult to find spending data back that far. You might be able to look in like physical blue books, but it doesn't always have all the information.

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Certainly a curious thing that at this point, after having that data up for many years, they decided to take it down in light of this lawsuit that's trying to make the case that spending isn't high enough. Oh, wow. So this seems like DPI's thumb on the scale of this lawsuit. Period. This seems like they are trying to have an impact. So, I mean, again, but you have it. You have the data. So it can be presented. But this sounds like DPI is trying to make it hard. for or rather easier for this claim to be successful in court. It certainly seems that way, and we put it in an open record request to see what discussion happened around the removal of this data. But, you know, you look at, you know, the hearing yesterday about, you know, the closed door changing of test scores. You look at the fact that they've, again, I think you were just talking about, just sort of altered all these standards and things of that nature. So everything is about hiding things from the public, closing people's eyes, and making it look as though things are different than they are. And this seems to just be the latest example. We'll see what the results of this open record request are. It might take them six months. We've seen what things we've done is what IRG has done. It takes forever for them to reply at this point. But it certainly doesn't look good on the surface when they're taking away the data that sort of disproves the whole point of the entire lawsuit. Right. You take away the data that disproves the lawsuit. Make it so you can't access it any longer, which is not even in compliance with the law. You're supposed to be providing transparent information on school spending. So this is about affecting the outcome of a case and shame on them. But this is, they're notorious for this. We don't know, for instance, unless Will Flanders does the deep dive on this or, you know, back when Bill Osmulski was doing this as well, love to Bill, wish he were still doing research on education, is. on what is a school that is succeeding versus a school that is failing? We have no failing schools in Wisconsin. And yet we have kids who can't read or do math at grade level 5% in Milwaukee. And yet if you go, it meets expectations, exceeds expectations. Does any school just fail expectations? Hardly any, if any. And how are they making the criteria? They're using weights. They're using statistical manipulation. So unless it's up, you know, unless you do the dive, we're not getting accurate information. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And, you know, I've already had folks reach out and say, can we cite your stuff now because we can no longer cite DTI stuff in the context of this case. So they really have, you know, tried to hamstring people. And, of course, you know, it's going to let them undermine it because now they're going to be citing something from a conservative think tank rather than from the horse's mouth. But we'll see what we uncover there. So we'll see what the result show, but it certainly looks improper. That's the point to say, well, that's just Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty. They're conservative. Wisconsin's Super Law and Liberty. So that's just their data. That's Will Flanders analysis. So it is huge. And actually, as I'm, you know, thinking this through, it's, there's the potential that this goes even deeper than that. I mean, when you're doing open records information on why the data was removed first, get the communication.

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you know, what was the conversation on how you take that data down? Second, I would be also asking for communication with anyone about this particular lawsuit. Because let's tell people what this lawsuit is. This is a lawsuit that says the reason why the scores suck is because we're not spending enough money on education. And then they're pointing to that one year you talked about 2008 and 2009 to make the claim. And then the remedy. for their claim is unlimited, unlimited resources for Wisconsin K-12, which, as Elvin just explained a few minutes ago, will just be poured into more woke critical theory. Yeah, you're absolutely right. They leave the data up. It's sort of the high watermark for the highest we've ever spent, which is that, you know, the end of the Doyle administration there. There was a ton of federal money coming in. As anyone who was in Wisconsin for more than a decade knows that then we had Act 10. Massive savings to school districts after that, but there was a little bit of a dip in funding for a few years or almost back to those highest levels as it is. But we had the recession. The housing crash happened. That's what happened. The housing crash happened. And as the housing crash went, so went the Wisconsin budget. We had difficulties. We were running a $3 billion structural deficit back then. So this is manipulating people short attention span as well. This is really, this is corrupt. I mean, I don't see any other way to look at this other than corrupt. It certainly looks really bad on the service. And again, the timing, you know, we put this report out. We do our sort of, you know, online webinar with a lot of people attending last week, and then next week the state has been seriously gone for the website. So certainly like we've seen a lot of other instances of them doing things behind closed doors and try to hide information, we certainly shouldn't be giving them the benefit of the doubt. I agree. I agree. Unfortunately, I'm looking at my clock and we're kind of running out of time, so we're going to have to bring you on to talk about. what has changed in regard to taxes and regulation in Wisconsin another day. This was just a pretty big story. Again, you have got state government, I think probably working hand in glove with the people who are bringing the lawsuits against state government as well. And that's another thing that could potentially be revealed with an open records request. Will Flanders, thank you very much for joining me today. Thanks so much. Have a great day. You as well, and we will take a quick break. That was Will Flanders from Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty. Welcome back to the program. I heard Leonard Skinnerd. So I started talking on the mic. No, I got to wait for sticks. Could have done worse with the music choices, I'll say. I will say. I've kind of been on a sticks. Obsessive sticks deep dive, deep cut dive. on my personal music collection. Don't ask me why. I can't explain it. Anyway, so we're going to come back on the program at 2 o'clock. We're almost going to close out this show. But back just to tie up on education. So the left, the Democrats,

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because education is a taxpayer-funded political organizing op writ large. That's what it is. It is a political organizing op. No one out there is saying we've got to get those reading scores up. Nobody's out there saying we've got to get those math scores up. So that's not happening in Wisconsin. What they are saying is we need more money. We need to strip mine your resources to give us. more to organize, to transform the body politic of the United States. That is what this is for. This lawsuit that has been filed demands infinite money, unlimited money to education. Again, we've gone over this before. We are spending around $20,000 per student. They are not learning to read. They are not learning to do math. How do you get people to not do anything to change that? How do you do that? Well, you don't tell parents of kids in schools that their kids are functionally illiterate and can't do math. You tell those parents their kids are satisfactory, above satisfactory, exceeding expectations, or they get an A, a B, or a C. And the school itself is satisfactory, meets expectations, exceeds expectations. What does that mean? You have no idea. And that's the point. It just looks good. Well, my kid's school's doing great. My kids, my kids doing great. Your kid's not doing great. And if your kid is doing, quote, great according to the definitions of great in public education in Wisconsin in 2006, your kid could be doing greater, much, much, much greater. But it's the money. What does your kid know? Your kid knows all about transgender ideology. Your kid knows all about how America is a horrible racist, colonialist country that practice structural racism, that capitalism is bad, that the American flag should not be respected, that immigration enforcement is horrible. That's what your kid is learning. Your kid could ace expert level testing on that. But your kid probably couldn't figure out how to do a quadratic equation two weeks after he asked CHAPT to solve the problem for him in eighth grade. It's a political operation. K-12 is a political operation. It is time for our side to start looking at it that way. You just heard Alvin Louis on this program talk about why we woke up one day and said, holy cats. The entire system is woke. The entire system's insane. There's a reason for that. It was designed that way. And as a centralized system, once you control the centralized bureaucracy, you're off to the races. DPI is a centralized bureaucracy. That's why all the rural schools are woke, our left wing. It's not about reading in math. It's not about education. It is about... political organizing. And now you've got a lawsuit that is demanding even more money for that and the centralized bureaucracy hiding information that would allow someone to fight that lawsuit successfully to at least stop being forced to pour even more money into this massive youth organizing effort we call K-12. I don't know if there was a way to fix this because it has been decades

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of command and control seizure by the DNC, by the Democratic Party, by their most potent political operatives, the Teachers Union. I don't know how you undo it, but at least let's not fund it more. All right. Have a great lunch. We'll see you back here on the Vicki McKenna Show at 2 o'clock. Good afternoon and welcome to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. Here's a little fun fact. Right before we go on the air, I'm messing around with this weather radio that I have. It's a super complicated, overcomplicated multi-band radio. And I'm just, you know, I'm kind of a prepper. So I've got a bunch of these things. And this is the most complicated one that I've gotten. I was determined to figure it out. Anyway, I'm sitting it next to my keyboard here. And I had it set for the emergency alert system. No, I want you to know what happens of an emergency alert sound goes through a microphone. It creates a cascade across the country, or at least in our case, wherever we are set to deliver the alert. Right before we get on the air, I'm like, you know what, I should probably put this thing, you know, under my desk and unplug the battery. It happened once. That happened once where a DJ played the sound of the emergency alert. on the air and it created a nationwide emergency alert which is i don't remember the size of the fine it was immense it was in the millions of dollars so it came yeah menopause brain fog people it makes you do all kinds of dumb things i didn't do it though to the program team and the management team i did not do it caught myself before we get on the air i don't think anything would have happened but there is a possibility that there could have been some kind of alert going off. And that would have been so bad, so very, very bad. Many people don't realize that just the sound itself, the tones can trigger the alert system. And yeah, I like my job. So I don't want to get fired for doing something stupid. All right. We've got Scott Manley coming up on the program. He's going to talk about the holistic picture of the Wisconsin economy in its... I mean, if we don't change the person in the East Wing, if we don't kick out the Democrats and put in Tom Tiffany, you know, start looking for places to move if you can afford to because it'll get that bad. We'll also check in with Scarlett Johnson who has been tracking a Mayday, a massive nationwide, Mayday communist protest that is going to be utilizing. all of the government agencies, services, and personnel if it can in Wisconsin. So stick around for that as well. Real quickly, before we get into anything, the House just voted 224 to 204 to pass a three-year extension of TPS for Haitians. Let me say that again. 224 to 204, they have passed a three-year extension for temporary protected status, which has been going on forever since, I think, 2001 for Haitians, 70% of whom are on welfare. Ten Republicans voted with Democrats to do that. Ten Republicans. Looks like half the Florida delegation.

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So apparently, and we've been hearing this too, that Florida Democrats are running as Republicans so that they can get elected to Congress and behave like Democrats. But anyway, that just happened today. So you have 65 to 70 percent of Haitians on welfare. They're disproportionately represented, not just on welfare, but also in criminal activity, in fraud, violent criminal activity. But 10 Republicans just voted for Democrats to advance that measure. It's going to die, I think. I think it'll die. Because Trump was just greenlighted by the Supreme Court the authority to remove temporary protected status. This is the House trying to seize control of an executive authority. And 10 Republicans voted with Democrats to do it. And so it passed. 224 to 204. None of the Wisconsin delegation voted for it. Well, I shouldn't say that. None of the Republicans in the Wisconsin delegation voted for it. But Gwen Moore voted for it and Mark Pocan voted for it. So two Democrats voted for it. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll come back with Scott Manley and Scarlett Johnson. I'll be right back. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. And I have Scott Manley joining us again from Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce, the State's Chamber of Commerce. And of very high interest to the business community in our state is the condition of the tax and regulatory environment. And it used to be pretty good, Scott. It's not pretty good anymore. In fact, I'm just looking at a Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty analysis. Pretty much dovetails what you guys have found is that we have seen an ever ratcheting up of regulations, which is causing businesses to become very expensive to operate in existing capacity and even harder to expand. And our tax burden... is a screaming advertisement to go develop anywhere except here. That's absolutely right, Vicki. I mean, we've got, if you're a business, particularly a small business, you're going to pay the ninth highest income tax rate in the country. right here in Wisconsin. And we're actually going to get worse in that regard, not because we're making things worse necessarily. We're certainly not getting much better, but other states are reducing and flattening and in some cases eliminating their income taxes. So even if we do absolutely nothing at all, we're losing ground. And then if you're a business or a homeowner in Wisconsin or even somebody who rents, we've got the... nine highest property taxes in the country here.

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So, I mean, it really doesn't matter whether you're talking about income taxes or property taxes. We're a top 10 state in the country for the highest tax burden. And that's not going to help attract people. And if we enacted death tax, like some of the Democrat lawmakers are proposing to do, that's going to make anybody who's accumulated any amount of wealth. throughout the course of their life want to leave our state. So it's a bad trajectory that we're on. I agree. And by the way, the death tax would be 40%. That's what they're proposing. 40%. So if you're anyone who was even modestly successful and you had a business and you, you know, let's say you die, you want to leave it to your kids. Do that somewhere else. Don't do it here if they reenact that death tax. That'll drive billionaires out, millionaires. They're gone. Why would you, I mean, why would you just simply flush it down the toilet? Because what does Wisconsin want to do with it? Well, they want unlimited education spending so we can have, you know, even more money spent on abject failure, kids who can't read and do math. They want unlimited amounts of money for that. That's what a law, that lawsuit is all about. On top of that, Scott, we've got the ninth highest income taxes. For small businesses, you're probably filing your small business taxes as an individual. It looks like an individual on that tax return. That's going to hammer you. Ninth highest property taxes, forget about it. You want to retire in Wisconsin. You don't want to do it if you're going to see your property taxes go this year from ninth highest to next year eighth highest and up and up and up because of that 400 year property tax veto. What is the argument for staying in Wisconsin in this regulatory and tax hell that they seem to want to create for us? Well, I'll tell you what the argument isn't. And that's, we're a cheap place for health care because we absolutely are not. And in fact, there was a new report that was just issued last week that found that our health care costs were the third most expensive state in the country for health care costs. Wow. And health care, listen to this. This is, this is just sort of mind-blowing. Healthcare services in Wisconsin costs 55% more than the national average. 55% more than the average state. So you're going to, if you live here, you're going to pay, you know, some of the top 10 highest income taxes in the country, some of the top 10 highest. property taxes in the country and you're going to pay 55% more for health care than the average state. Why? How did we get to that point? We talked all over and over over these years about how you don't pile on mandates, how you try to keep the health costs under control. And now we wake up one day and we're 55% more expensive than everybody else. Yeah, and we've been on that trajectory for some time, and I think that there's a lot of reasons for it. Part of it is, you know, that we, and perhaps a big part of it, Vicky, is that we've seen an awful lot of consolidation taking place in the healthcare industry. And when consolidation happens, you have fewer options as a consumer. You have less consumer choice.

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and you have less competition in the marketplace. And we know, I mean, this is just an axiom of macroeconomics that when there's less competition, prices go up. So that's a big problem. That's definitely a big piece of the puzzle there. But I want to go back to property taxes for a second, too, and just remind everybody that we are now on a 400-year autopilot for property tax increases every single year that compound annually on top of the previous years property tax increases. So we will very quickly become... number one in the country. And Tony Evers had an opportunity to sign a bill into law to repeal that about a week or so ago. And he vetoed it. And he said, you know, very flippantly and brazenly said, yeah, deal with it. It's here to stay. Deal with it. So my children and my children's children and my children's, you know, great-grandchildren and so on and so forth are going to be paying these higher property taxes. Yeah, deal with it. I'm just telling you deal with it. By the way, tell your mom to deal with it too if she's on fixed income and she's not going to be able to afford to keep shouldering the burden of the property tax, of the autopilot property tax increase. Deal with it. Sorry, Mom. Deal with that. That's what the governor says. Deal with it. So 55% higher health care costs. I agree with you. It's due to consolidation. We also have a huge number of people that we have decided to invite onto the government health care. And we've not done anything to mandate transparency. My goodness, we have another transparency bill that seems to be trying to claw its way through the legislature. You don't get transparency pricing. All right. We've got the second highest energy costs in the Midwest. I think we're just second to Illinois, tied with Michigan. So if the second highest... energy costs in the Midwest. And those are going up because the left says we need more solar panels. We need more wind farms. We need more subsidized energy. And we need to make sure that Blackstone, Black Rock, Vanguard, State Street make their 10% profit right off the top. So those costs are going up. The autopilot property tax increase, it's going to run grandma into poverty and probably make her move to Florida. And then the ninth highest income tax is making it very expensive to open up a small business. But let's not miss one. They want to repeal. The one tax credit that has made us a magnet for manufacturing in the Midwest, and that's the manufacturer agriculture tax credit, they want to repeal that. Where do they think they're going to get the money for the budget if they run all the money out of Wisconsin because we can't afford to live here? Well, I mean, I think that in order to answer that question, Vicki, you have to have even an elementary understanding of economics. I just think that there are a lot of...

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legislators in that building and candidates who are running for office, who just simply have no understanding for economics. We've probably never worked in the private sector a day in their life, and they just don't have a clue. And they have not learned from the example of states like New York and California that are aggressively chasing wealth out of their state. And it's breaking their budgets. And it's causing the cost of government in those states like California and New York to fall even more burdensomely on the people who stay. And, you know, they're achieving the exact opposite of what they're trying to do. And it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who understands economics. But even if you don't, you should at least be able to look and see what's happening in some of these blue states and have an aha moment that, like, hey, this is actually a really bad idea that does the opposite of what we wanted to. Well, and here's the other thing. How about government grocery stores? Let's run the food out of the state, too. They want government grocery stores. And then they want to make it miserable. They want legalized prostitution. They want it to smell like rot and skunk because they want legal weed. They want dispensaries, I guess. You could just get high if you had the money. And they don't want enforcement of crime. They don't want to teach kids to read and do math, but they definitely want more money. for their K-12 school system, that's going to hit you at the local side. We're talking about tax burdens based on mostly state data. When you start working in the local impacts of this, I mean, it's amazing to me. All this stuff, they want you to pay more and they want to make it more miserable for you while you're paying more. It's almost like, that's right. When I was talking to Tom Tiffany the other day, I said, you got to hate. You don't love Wisconsin and want to do this. You hate Wisconsin and want to do this. Well, and bringing up Tom Tiffany, I think is an important point because high taxes, you know, high income taxes, high property taxes. the types of policies that drives people out of our state and increase the cost of living and make, you know, a state less desirable. All of those are choices. Those are policy choices and they don't happen by accident. And it doesn't have to be that way, Vicki. We need to elect the type of people who are going to take us in the right direction instead of the wrong direction, people who are going to say, hey, we're not satisfied being in the top 10 highest tax states for income and property taxes. We're going to do something about it. Hey, we don't think it's fair to have an autopilot property tax increase for the next 400 years that's going to make us the most expensive state to own a home in in the country.

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we're going to do something about it. But if people don't sort of wake up and get energized this fall, we could be in a very, very bad place as a state. And it won't be any money. We're at a tipping point. Yeah, they'll say, well, you know, the middle class will start demanding, you know, their own subsidies and tax breaks and, you know, and welfare. There won't be any money to give it to you. This won't be, this is. There won't be money. There just will not be any more money because you will run what generates money, which is economic activity out of the state of Wisconsin. Before I miss an opportunity, we haven't even touched on this and we don't have a ton of time to do it. But when you look at regulation, the red tape in Wisconsin, just the new building codes. These are green building codes. These are going to affect in pipeline projects right now. I'm talking to someone I know who's in this industry who's saying, we're just kind of trying to get our feet about us on how this is going to affect not just stuff going forward, but the existing stuff that is going to have to be compliant to this new regulation as well so we can check the boxes on climate change. I mean, so good grief, new apartments, new houses, new manufacturing facilities, what, you know, new strip malls, whatever. It's just going to be an extra added layer of cost on top everything else we've been talking about. There's absolutely nothing the Democrats have proposed that does not make you kind of clutch your chest and go, yikes, can I even afford to plan my retirement here? Well, yeah, and look at the city of Madison as an example. I think Milwaukee's probably similarly situated, but a lot of the housing stock that's being built now is multifamily, oftentimes large-scale apartment complexes. And this new commercial building code will 100% add significant cost to those buildings. The cost will then be passed along to renters in the form of higher rent. And, I mean, we are already, especially in Madison, one of the most expensive rental markets in the Midwest. This just takes a bad situation that we're currently in and makes it worse, makes it less affordable to live here amongst all of the other things that we've talked about, like high taxes and high healthcare costs. It's like at some point, you need to stop doing this. Stop digging us further in the hole. That's what we're doing. It's just, hey, you know, stop digging. Please, please, please. This will make all of the property markets around the state just like Madison. That's what this is going to do. We could go on. There is only one way to stop this at this point, and that is to elect a Republican governor who will slam the Bill Gates down on all this crazy stuff and will actually have the authority to unwind a significant amount of it. Scott Manley, thank you so much for coming on the program today. I do appreciate it.

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Thanks for having me, Vicki. Thanks for doing this. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. And I've been talking for at least two days now about the use of... K-12 for political organizing. And I, and I, earlier on my program, I called K-12, you know, just it isn't education. It is a political organizing app. Rit large, K-12, all of it. I was talking about Bosa-la-Frantera. And they are partnering with all of the schools outside of Milwaukee now, where their youth empowered for the struggle group. We've got the sunrise movement. They are on both immigration issues and on climate change. We've got Glisten, which is the gay, lesbian, trans group that is overhauled education and turned it into a woke nightmare, Black Lives Matter or different types of affiliated groups. They are all descending. on into the streets on May Day. And Scarlett Johnson is following this. Moms for Liberty, Scarlett Johnson. Virtually no one has picked up on this. I'll tell you it's you and Glenn Beck, I think, are the only two people who have picked up on this. All of these, quote, youth groups that are taxpayer funded, that are ops for the Democratic Party, they're all taking to the streets on Mayday. And it's a big test. Tell us what you know. So I have been sitting through. countless hours of these May Day training apps. They have been going on since really, actually, there's a May Day every year, but this one in 2026 is very optimal for them. Since everything that's happened in Minnesota and January, they have heavily invested time and energy into May 1st, Friday May 1st, this May day. I want to break down what this is. This isn't just a rally. This isn't just, oh, go out in the streets. They're doing it on a Friday because they want to shut down the entire American economy on Friday. So they are advocating for teachers to call in sick. I have sat through several trainings where teachers, part of the AFT, the NEA, all of their local affiliates, they are all saying call in stick, this mass effort. so that the schools are forced to shut down. They are also asking daycare workers to not show up to work. They're asking nurses to not show up to work. They're asking everyone, bus drivers, everyone, no restaurants, no shopping, no business, shut down capitalist, basically these capitalist bugs, that's what they call them. And for parents, I just don't want you to be surprised.

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On Friday, May 1st, if your daycare is not available, your schools are not open. And that's the goal to make you have to call into work and say, I can't come in. I don't have anyone to take care of my kids. And where do they want these kids to be instead of home? They want them to be on the streets with their teachers and with their community organizers rallying against the billionaires against. the fascist against Trump against you, basically you and me and everything. Their own words, they've said this over and over. They call this disruption of structure test to measure how far the coordinated pressure of over 500 radical left-wing organizations can go. It's not random. It's not grassroots. They are paid, trained organizers. They are working heavily with unions and they celebrate the fact they're getting their strategy from union activists that have been doing this for a long time. They want entire communities to be shut down and this is going to be, again, this big test. The question is why are students being trained? And they are right now. The voices they love from Tara, that's just one organization of many that are coming into schools, elementary schools, middle schools, high schools. And they're talking about May Day. Oh, isn't it great? Let's color some signs. This is bigger than just going out and holding some colorful signs. Your kids are being drawn in to a radical Marxist organization whose end game. is to crush, destroy, and quote, I am quoting, burn down the American economy, burn down capitalism, and burn down America, as you know it, so they can build the world that they've been waiting for. They are doing this on the backs of kids. largely as well. So we have mentioned Bossa Silla Frontera. They are now expanding their reach and they've been doing that for quite a long time. They've got a specific kids club. Youth empowered for the struggle or yes, that's going to be part of this. So we mentioned them, Glisten, which is the gay HRC affiliated, AFTN-EA, Sunrise Movement affiliated, you know, radical, critical gender organization. They're in the schools as well. BLM in the schools, sunrise in the schools. But at the same time, they are working. These groups that I've just mentioned are working directly with AFT, N-E-A, A-C-LU, the AFL-CIO, etc. If you go back- The Democrat Socialists of America. Of course. I've got the list here. This is indivisible. This is Tesla takedown. This is no kings. This is free Palestine. This is ice out. Only it is maximized. Every group. Exactly. It's maximizing what you've already seen and gotten kind of comfortable chuckling at.

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Oh, the No Kings protest, a bunch of old blue-haired Karens. It was. That's not what this is meant to be. As you point out, they are looking at this as a, quote, structure test. Can they make it big? And if, and can they do it with kids like they did in Minneapolis? And if they can, make it go national, can they do it all the way to November? Yes, and on their website, so on the Voices website, they have toolkits. These toolkits are on the NEA website, Indivisible website. If you are in Wisconsin and you and you are part of Moms for Liberty, you know that Indivisible is in every one of our counties and they form hate groups against Moms for Liberty and any parents that run for school boards. So if you're listening, you know exactly who Indivisible is. They are key partners in May Day. They are key partners in working with the teachers unions. Becky Pringle shows up all the time to talk to these organizations and say that her number one goal is to take down Trump, not to educate kids, but to use the most powerful public sector union in the country to take down a political figure. That is all they want to do. They are obsessed. Their hatred for President Trump and anyone who's voted for him, it's palatable. It's funny that they want to go after the billionaires except for their billionaires because they are funded by... group of radical billionaires that want to destroy America. So it's all, it's all projection. They say all these things and that's who they are. It was even odd when they were talking about January 6th and how terrible it was. And then they proceeded to say that if the election doesn't go their way, they're going to do something far, like an actual insurrection. That is what they're talking about. If they don't win, they don't want you to have a choice. They don't really like democracy. If they don't win, they want to, they actually want to have an instruction. And you can just go on your, you know, I use GROC because it seems to be the most reliable. But you can go into your various chatbots and you can look up indivisible. That's Reed Hoffman. That's Open Society Foundation. The Reed Hoffman is the biggest funder of the Wisconsin Democratic Party. But he's also one of the biggest funders of the Democratic Party. So Open Society Foundation, Tides Network. other organizations. Also, Indivisible is under the Arabella umbrella, which I talked about yesterday. So we're talking about these groups. These are 501C4s working with 501C3s to pretend that it's just community. It's just a community thing. No, this is political in nature. Again, Indivisible was behind Tesla takedown, ice out, Tides Foundation, Open Society, Sunrise, they're all. you know, putting money into the same pot so that they can disperse and do these direct actions. Mayday is May 1st. And I believe, are we doing this on exactly May Day? Because you got to be, yeah, it is. It falls on Friday. Yep.

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Yep, Friday. And I want to say that the Democrat Party, I'm not going to let them out of this. There are sitting senators, representatives, candidates, and campaign, like the campaign manager for the New York City mayor office. They are on these calls every single time. So they have the most radical Democrats, elected Democrats in office coming on saying that Chuck Schumer is too conservative for them. They want Chuck Schumer out. They want any, they only want Marxists. They have this vision. And remember, the reason they pick May Day, it is, people are like, well, what is May Day? May Day is also known as the International Labor, I'm sorry, International Workers Day is May Day. It goes back to the late 1800s, where this May 1st day was used by various different socialist organizations, including the Soviet Union and all of the Soviet groups in the Eastern Bloc. to run operations, to run demonstrations, or once the people have been captured, to force people to honor communism. So May Day is a communist day. It's meant to be that. You just think it's a nice day. It's just, you think it's a nice day. It's not. It's symbolic. It's deeply symbolic. One of the activists said, talking about May Day, that worker, the title worker, is the one she is most proud to wear. She's a woman. She's a worker, not mom, not daughter, not any other thing that we would say as a mom, as a wife, as a daughter, that these are the most important things we know. Worker, these are a vowed, radical communists. And they just do not make a mistake. This is a crazy thing that's happening. And we have to understand it. We have to understand what they're doing in schools and how much worse it's going to get. It's going to get. bad. You need to understand what's happening in your child's school because the radical activists are bullying all the administrators too. They have organizing materials for students to give to their school administrators. This is very much like the color revolution where the kids went around bullying the teachers and administrators and putting the dunce camps on them and yelling at them. They are teaching kids to form their own color revolution right now in the United States. Yeah, and they don't know what they're doing because the kids are just being filled with whatever their teachers are filling their heads with. And let's be clear here. This is going to be on a Friday. And so lots and lots of kids will have no idea what's going on, but hey, we're getting out of school. And so it will look even bigger than it already is intended to be. So now this may flop, okay? But they mean for this one to be a body blow.

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And to have a drastic impact in the elections. And again, it's being underwritten by the who's who of the Democratic Party funding apparatus. So Scarlett Johnson, no one else is looking at this stuff. You know, I appreciate you sitting down and taking the time and going through the training sessions and sharing the information. I wish it could be shared far and wide nationally. And President Trump could put up a truth social post about it. But people have to have their. Let's work at it. Let's work on getting Trump to pay attention. And there's a call to action. I'm not just saying this to be hyperbolic. Call your schools. Let them know that you do not want your child to leave the premises on Friday, May 1st. Make sure that you are just keeping tabs and making sure that you're fighting to keep your school open in defiance of this and that your kid is not going to be used as a pawn. Be ready to come pick them up from school. Let them know you're watching. Let them know they are not allowed to leave the premises. They do not have permission. I would really just get ahead of this as a parent and make sure that your kid is not one of the pawns. Right. Scarlett Johnson, Moms for Liberty. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thanks for having me. And we will take a break on the Vicki McKenna show. I will be right back. That's it for me on the program coming up on tomorrow's program. Senator Ron Johnson is going to join me. And then we're going to do the deep dive into the Dems reset on climate change here in Wisconsin using weather, using the weather to do it. So we'll cover all of that and more on tomorrow's program. Have a great afternoon. How to have fun. Anytime, anywhere. Step one. Go to chumbacasino.com. Got it. Step 2. Collect your welcome bonus. Come to Papa welcome bonus. Step 3. Play hundreds of casino style games for free. That's a lot of games. All for free? Step 4. Unleash your excitement. Woo-hoo! Chimba Casino has been delivering thrills for over a decade. So claim your free welcome bonus now and live the Chamba Life. Visit chambacasino.com.

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