Gary and Shannon (KFI AM 640)November 12, 202526m

Shutdown Politics and Epstein Email Bombshells

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Or days before November 12th. And the solution that the transportation people came up with because they were tasked with figuring out what to do with the massive carcass. The solution they came up with is the solution that all boys of a certain age would come up with. Let's blow it up. Let's blow it up. Let's blow it up. Well, we got a problem. We've got to get rid of it. Let's blow it up. So that's what they did. They rigged a whale carcass with explosives. And the entire town in this. this Oregon coastal city gathered to watch. And if you can imagine right now what happened, you're absolutely correct. It was a horror show. It was not a parade for everyone to gather and wave. It was an exploding dead whale. They're lucky people didn't get hurt or killed based on what happened. We'll revisit that a little bit later. Today, we may finally have some end to the government shutdown. After nearly two months, the House is back in session later today. Lawmakers are expected to vote tonight on the Senate. bill that would reopen the federal government. Now, there is still a razor-thin majority, at least house-wise. I think it's about six votes right now. So the speaker in this case, Mike Johnson, is going to need President Trump's help to push this through, getting on the phone calls, et cetera, whipping up the votes. But GOP leadership is pretty confident that this thing will pass tonight. Then it goes to the president's desk for signature. to make it official an end to the government shutdown. The air travel situation continues to be a mess. I read yesterday that it seems like if you are sticking to the major hubs, you should be okay. It's those smaller market airports that are being affected, especially with delays. You mentioned someone going from Burbank to New York with a couple stops in between, and that was going to take a long time because of probably those couple stops in between. If you've got an L.A. to New York flight, probably okay. It's the, you know, L.A. or Burbank to Jacksonville or whatever, where you're going to get into some trouble. As of this morning, when this was written by CNN, 900 flights within the U.S. have been canceled. Again, the FAA put in that reduction order that by yesterday, flights in 40 major hubs around the country would have to be reduced by 6%. that number goes up to 10%. So this continues. We know this. Anytime there's a problem with air travel or air traffic control shortages, the ripples extend past the problem ending. And some specific airlines will see more problems than others because Southwest, for example, is one of those that goes point to point. It'll go Sacramento to Burbank, Burbank to Houston, Houston to Dallas, Denver, something like that. They don't just go L.A., New York, New York, L.A., L.A., New York. So some of those flights can have more of that cascading effect, where if that early morning flight is canceled, the rest of the day is screwed for that airplane. Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy, spoke from O'Hare Airport earlier today. If the House doesn't pass this bill, I think you're going to look at Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.

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as tidilywinks. It was beautiful. It's going to get much worse than that. And I think you're going to have airlines that make serious calculations about whether they continue to fly. Full stop. We're playing checkers? He got in a tiddly winks and a full stop. Now, Chicago O'Hare happens to be one of the most impacted airports over the last couple of days. And that's a reason why he spent the morning there. 45 flights have already been canceled into or sorry, out of Chicago O'Hare and another 46 canceled into Chicago O'Hare. That's on top of about 100 plus that have been delayed just. in and out of O'Hare Airport. Now, that's also a massive, massive hub because it's in the middle of the country. And so many airlines depend on flights in and out of Chicago. If you are of this century, the saying tidlywinks originated from the 19th century British slang term for an unlicensed pub known as a tidly wink. A small place, you can get an inexpensive drink there. Oh, a little tidly wink. It means basically a nothing place, a nothing thing. It is the combination of tidley slang for small and wink, possibly related to a short time or the winking motion of flicking. The game was named after the slang term. It's a popular pastime drinking game in pubs, tidly wink, where you just flick these little coins into a cup. You know what I learned? It's kind of like quarters, but very rudimentary. Without the drinking? I learned tidilywinks. I didn't know. I thought it was just the game. I didn't realize it came from somewhere else. Right. A little pub, a little unlicensed pub, a little room where you can get a drink, a tidly wink. Tara Souter from the hill.com is going to join us. We'll talk about what the government shutdown could mean for getting our national flight nightmare back to normal. If you want to use tidleywink in a sentence, use the talkback feature on the iHeart radio app. You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM 640. Let's start by giving you a chance to win $1,000. Now, your chance to win $1,000. Just enter this nationwide keyword on our website. Grand. That's Grand. G-R-A-N-D. Enter it now at K-F-I-A-M-640.com slash cash. Powered by Sweet James Accident Attorneys. If you're hurting an accident, winning is everything. Call the winning attorneys at Sweet James. 1-8-9 million. That's 1-8-9 million or Sweetjames.com. Keyword, once again, Grand goes on the website and an hour from now another shot to win a thousand bucks. We're talking about... the ripples and flight delays from the government shutdown. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy saying that flight cuts are going to stop only when the data says we should. Tara Souter with the hill.com joins us now to kind of parse through what that means and when we could see things get back on track. Yeah, hi. Yeah. So basically Sean Duffy on yesterday, he said that

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Currently, flight cuts at 40% or no, 40 airports in the United States are cut by 6% and they are set to go up at 8% on Thursday at 6th and then to 10% on Friday. He has warned also that, you know, flights could be massively more disrupted if the House doesn't vote to back the Senate deal. that just went through earlier this week. And that will go to the president's desk and most likely end the shutdown. But he warned that if the shutdown doesn't end by this weekend, it could get a lot worse. Does he have a plan or does he have any sort of idea of what would need to happen? Assuming the president, well, assuming the House passes it, assuming the president signs it into law, how long it would take to get back up to normal staffing levels? Yeah, he has kind of expressed a little bit of caution around that. I mean, he said this weekend on CNN that shutdown is going to have a massive ripple effect, basically, beyond when it ends and that he had a bunch of air traffic controllers retiring every single day, like 15 to 20 is what he said on CNN this weekend. Generally, he hasn't given like a specific deadline, as I've seen, but he said it's going to have lasting effects. Tara, great stuff. Thank you for that. I appreciate it. Thank you. Again, Sean Duffy was at O'Hare Airport early this morning, and I mentioned that O'Hare already has 91 flights that have been canceled either into or out of. He also said that, as Shannon mentioned at the beginning, the very first thing that he's discussing is getting back to normal flight loads. only when the data says we should. He says we're at the cusp of hopefully having the government reopened, concern that we're not going to have on day one. Controllers come back into the towers right away, but he said he is asking them to do just that. It's their job. They will be paid, but it might not be immediate in the way that they come back. He also referenced the triggering. I remember what he called it, the staffing triggers. That's how we referred to it. And he said that four staffing triggers were hit yesterday, which a staffing trigger means there's not enough people in that air traffic control tower wherever it happens to be. And they have to limit traffic in and out of a specific airport or a specific location. There were four of them yesterday. He said, Sunday, there were 53. Saturday, there were 81. So in terms of those.

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triggers for staffing, they have actually gone down over the last couple of days, even though the number of flights that are canceled has gone up to 6%. If you are flying this week, most airlines say that they are making sure you have at least 24 hours notice if your flight is going to be disrupted. Obviously, check your flight status before you go to the airport, but they should give you a heads up in the form of an email or a text, depending on the airline. Within 24 hours. Some airlines have said that they're giving a heads up seven days, but that was like a week ago or so when things were a little bit less in flux. Air American Delta Southwest United. have all informed passengers that they have completed adjustments to their schedules, including flight cancellations through today. So if you're flying today, American Delta Southwest United, you haven't been notified. You're probably good to go. Again, check before you leave. And also probably more affected if you are flying into one of those regional hub-type places, Boise, something like that, as opposed to O'Hare. And don't forget. Pack your what? Pack your patience. Why are you doing that? What? Why are you doing that? I thought that's what we're supposed to do as we get to. Is that right? Holiday travel. Don't forget. You kind of do need to, though. It is cliche. Yes, but you also don't have to be told to not look up when the rain is falling. Well, you got a point. I have a real problem with pack your patience for a couple reasons. Number one, it's trite and awful. Number two, don't pack it. Freaking wear it. Hold it in your hand because if it's packed with all your stuff and it's in the belly of the plane or it's in the overhead, you're without it. Get to it when you need it. Keep it in your hand with your phone. A reminder that on Friday, we're going to be live at Luchador Brewing and Chino Ails for our latest news and brews coming out. We have a bunch of stuff we're giving away. Special guests are going to be stopping by as well to help kick off their hops in the hills event over this weekend. Again, we'll be out there starting at 9 o'clock on Friday. You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM 640. Michael Monks will come and join us at 10 o'clock after Amy's News. Big day at L.A. City Hall, rent stabilization on the docket. So is Frank McCourt's gondola. Oh, yeah. I think the city's going to come out against Frank McCourt and the gondola. Specifically. The gondola would happen. Maybe a Frank McCourt's name was far from it. Yes. House of Representatives is expected to vote later today on ending the longest government shutdown in history. This bill would fund all federal operations at least through January 30th. It did clear the Rules Committee along party lines. The expectation is that there will be a couple of Republicans that might need some convincing, but that this thing will pass later today.

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Of course, we'll keep you updated throughout the day on KFI News. The number one country song in the United States, AI. Have you heard about this? Me neither. I'm not shocked. It's easy to do, especially with the state of country music today. I love country music. It ain't good right now. There's not a lot of great music, period, right now. It's a low bar, but it is also frightening how... how it meets that bar, whatever bar it is. Like that it's fooling a lot of people. All right. So today, and the timing of course is important, but today House Democrats have released some emails in which Jeffrey Epstein sent messages and discussed Donald Trump, suggesting that Trump knew more about all of the abuse that was going on than he has acknowledged. Now, there's important things to remember here. A, these were picked and chosen by people of the opposite political parties. So take that into account. The second thing is that there are thousands of emails that have been poured through, most of them that did not mention Donald Trump. I'm not defending him. I'm just laying out the facts here. And the third thing is... They're not very long. These are not like multi-paragraph missives where Jeffrey Epstein explains Donald Trump's involvement or non-involvement in all of this. There's just three emails, one of them to Ghislaine Maxwell, the other two to author Michael Wolfe. Now, Trump is called Epstein, a creep, insisted he never engaged in any wrongdoing with him or Ghislaine Maxwell. Trump and Epstein both split their time between New York and Palm Beach. They were friends in the 90s and early 2000s. They had a falling out. Nobody disputes that. appeared to be around 2004 that their relationship fizzled out. But why? That's the thing that's open for interpretation. Trump has said that he thought that Epstein was hiring away spa attendance from Mar-a-Lago, that he kicked Epstein out of the club, that he thought he was a creep, and that one of the women that Epstein had hired away from Trump's Mar-a-Lago was Virginia Guffrey, the woman who went on to say that Prince Andrew used her first sex and later killed herself. Yeah, in an email that was sent to Ghislaine Maxwell, April of 2011, Jeffrey Epstein writes, I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump. A victim, we believe it's Virginia Guffrey, like you said, spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. Police chief, et cetera, I'm 75% there. I have no idea what those last two phrases mean. Now, let's just pull the car over. Let's just say.

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Trump was the dog that didn't bark, meaning that he wasn't going to raise any questions about this. He wasn't going to ruffle any fevers. At the time, it was 2011. He was a reality TV star on The Apprentice, tabloid celebrity fixture in New York tabloids, real estate magnet caricature of the real estate New York guy. And I don't think anybody outside of those very high-end circles had any clue who Jeffrey Epstein was. Exactly. The fact that Trump alone spent hours with Virginia Guffrey in a home is problematic on its face. What the hell two business do they have together? Right. But let's not be Pollyanna. Let's not pretend we live in a world where rich and powerful men don't enjoy the company of young women. Let's just all be adult about it and realize that this goes on. You know what? You just got to hold your nose because it happens. The political elite think that they can do whatever they want. And I mean both parties. If you look at the Jeffrey Epstein pictures and the flight logs, nobody's clean of this, all right? Bill Clinton right there with Donald Trump in all of this. So nobody's clean. So let's just let's just get rid of that whole Pollyanna vibe. Donald Trump was never going to raise a red flag on Mr. Epstein, as the New York Times likes to call him. But neither was anybody else because nobody wanted their name connected to this guy. To raise your hand and say this guy's doing wrong is to say you know enough to know he's doing wrong. Yeah. And that. Evidence of that was clarified when the U.S. attorney in Florida didn't want to put this guy away for decades and came up with some cockamamie deal. Because Epstein spread his money around to the law enforcement community as well. He had everybody paid off, politics, law enforcement, everything. Nobody was clean in this orbit. There's two other emails to Michael Wolfe, the timing of which are important as well. Again, that first email was from 2011. These are from 2015 and 2019 when President Trump was very high profile running for president or had been president. We'll get into those when we come back. You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM 640. Wow. So you're going to have you're going to go to war with your own party going against the Senate Democrats. Hmm. John Fetterman is one of those guys who is getting a lot of heat as well. I mean, he's out with a book, so he's kind of been around selling that. But he was also one of those people who has very vocally opposed the main Democrats in that M-A-I-N Democrats, not M-A-I-N-E, Democrats who have been opposed to ending the government shutdown. And his argument was, we have...

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millions of people not being paid. That's not good for any Democrat. We've got a Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in the political game. I saw that. Schlossberg. This is JFK's grandson. He's got a bit of a, not a bit, dedicated, large following on social media, served as political correspondent at Vogue ahead of the 2024 election. How Jack E.O. JFK is that. Now he's looking at Nadler's seat, a deep blue New York house seat being vacated by Jerry Nadler. He had said he will not be seeking a re-election in September. So Jack Sloshberg. Slosh Slosh. You say it. It's tough. Schla. Schla. It's the Schla and the Oss and the Berg altogether. It's tough. Earlier today, House Democrats released some emails in which they say Jeffrey Epstein sent messages suggesting that Donald Trump knew more about Sexton's abuse than he had acknowledged or let on. The headline is huge. The emails are very short. There's only three of them. I already read you the one that he sent to Ghislaine Maxwell in 2011. In January of 20, well, let's do the, let's do them in chronological order just to keep it straight. In November, December of 2015. So this would have been when President Trump was sort of moving his way up in the polls before the primaries for the 2016 election. And Jeffrey. Epstein was talking with author Michael Wolfe. Can I just say that even the email addresses and the way people's names are reflected in these emails is gross. For instance, Jeffrey Epstein's Gmail account is J.E. Vacation. Like Jeffrey Epstein Vacation, which just grosses me out because you know what Epstein vacation entails, don't you? Yeah. You know, underage, Hooker Island, basically. And then he has G. Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein does, has her in his contact list as G. Max. That's gross to me too. Anyway, go on. There was a debate on December 15th, 2015. CNN hosted the debate apparently. And this is back when they still had too many candidates and they did two different debate stages. President Trump, then candidate Trump, was on the main stage. And Michael Wolfe wrote to Jeffrey Epstein, I hear CNN planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you, either on air or in the scrum afterwards. Jeffrey Epstein replies a couple hours later, if we were able to craft an answer for him, what do you think it should be? And Michael Wolf says,

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I think you should let him hang himself. If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or if it really looks like he could win, you could save him generating a debt. Of course, it is possible that when asked, he'll say Jeffrey's a great guy and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in a Trump regime. Let's pull the car over right there. Why is this in writing? Why is this just not understood by Jeffrey Epstein? This is almost like a book where the author has to lay it out for a reader who is not really in tune with what's happening here. Yeah. I thought the same thing. I mean, same way of if this guy's smart enough, evil genius and able to pull off this massive network of trafficking young women and girls. How can it be so stupid to communicate these things openly? I mean, we all probably have some belief that email is not open. But obviously, every day we talk about somebody whose emails get either hacked into or discovered through, you know, searches, warranted searches, it's not a private communication. Even though you may believe it is. No. And why does it need to be communicated to Jeffrey Epstein that he has leverage over anybody that sat on that plane and has the potential to become president? Of course he has leverage. Of course he can get Trump to do whatever he wants him to do if Trump had a seat on that plane. The same way Epstein was able to get anything he wanted done by any of the power players took advantage of the underage girls racket that he provided. The third email comes January of 2019. So Trump had been president already. And again, this is between Michael Wolfe and Jeffrey Epstein. There's a reference tomorrow Logo. Some of this is redacted so we don't have the full language. But. Trump said he asked me to resign, never a member ever. Of course he knew about the girls as he asked Galane to stop. So that's some kind of a reference. You know, we know that Ghislaine Maxwell was recruiting girls from Mar-a-Lago to become the massage provider, whatever term you want to hear. This email, you got to take into, well, I mean, it just helps when you put it in the context that it was sent in 2019. This seems like a planted email. that he put in writing, of course he knew about the girls, he asked Elaine to stop. That's like a mitigating factor in Trump just getting that dirt off of his hands, right? I feel like that was a, that was a favor of Jeffrey Epstein that Trump had asked Elaine to stop. You know, it's like if you're gonna. If you're going to go with your buddies and the goal is to go kill someone and you're on your way there. And even though you've agreed to go kill this guy, if you at any point say, hey, you know what, let's stop this. I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it anymore. Let's give up on this plan. Let's not kill this guy. And they continue to drive the car. At that point, you've got kind of an out for yourself.

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You know, you've got a mitigating factor into, hey, I tried to stop this whole thing. Interesting. All right. Well, more of this is going to come out. We could see the House vote on releasing more Epstein files soon with a new member being sworn in today, too. Michael Monks, when we come back right after this. You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You can always hear us live on KFI AM 6.40, 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. every Monday through Friday. And anytime on demand on the IHeart Radio app. My fellow American, this July, we're celebrating America's birthday at Moto Casino by giving away 1,776,000 in prize. And one lucky winner is going to take home 1 million SC. Happy 250th birthday, America. You're welcome. Download Moto Casino today. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino's the social casino board. We're prohibited. No purchase necessary. Visit motto.com for more details.

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