Tony Katz and the Morning News Full Show 12-23-25

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I love every part of that. He's like, yeah, we're just keeping it because it's not at the grand scheme of things as big of a story as people are going to make it out on the left because all they want to do is attack Trump for it. So I love those moments, truthfully. And I think a whole lot of people. that maybe the left get mad at, the mag of people is what they call them, even though I think that that's a crazy term or a silly thing to refer to people as because I don't think that there's anyone that's a monolith like that. And whatever they boogeyman think that term means, it doesn't mean that to people who voted for Trump. Who won the popular vote, by the way? The other thing that's always funny to me when you deal with the hardcore deranged lefty people is that they hate to admit that. The popular vote this past election actually also went to Trump. So what does that mean about what side of a lot of these topics people wind up on? They vilify Trump and then they realize that they might be in the minority on some of those opinions. But anyway, the thing that I love most about this is that we have every right to do a lot of the things that Trump does. I will get to the battleships a little bit later on in the show and how he named them after himself. Because... So oftentimes the biggest complaint I have about politics is how inauthentic they are, how much they lie, how ridiculous it is to scream and yell that this side of the political party, whatever side you're on, right or left, is the honest people and that everybody else is a liar. And you just have to look for maybe five minutes online to find a lie by your own side. Both sides tell lies. I'm not going to pretend they don't. But what I love about this is that when President Trump is confronted with something where he... can understand that the narrative is designed to try to criticize him at all costs in any way whatsoever. He doesn't care. He just looks at them like, yeah, I don't know, whatever, and move on to the next thing. And the left will go crazier about it. And the right will laugh about it and we'll keep voting people like Trump into positions of political power because they upend the stupidity of that system. That is the biggest reason that things like this wind up being entertaining. I don't really want or care. Like I'm not for or against the U.S. seizing a whole bunch more oil from Venezuela. I am for the U.S. doing something to force Venezuela to behave differently. They are a dangerous country. They are a corrupt country. They have extreme poverty. All these things happen because of the communist rule that exists there and the people that are in power that are dangerous. So I like that we're putting pressure on them, whatever way we're doing it, from a simply philanthropic place. But beyond that, too, the thing that's most entertaining to me is that Trump will occasionally look someone dead in the face and say the thing that everyone claims is unpresidential. But in reality, it wildly entertains everyone who wishes more people would act this way. Even if I didn't agree with your opinion, you just wish more people would act that way and not cater to or fold to whatever the narrative is that they think they have to be obedient to. And actually, on that note, coming up later on the show, we will talk about... CBS and the dangerous horrible person that's in charge of CBS now, according to the left, he's certainly no communist or no conservative or communist. He's certainly no conservative. And yet there's a story out there about CBS and 60 minutes. And I think it's wildly entertaining. Yet again, the narrative that exists today and the likelihood that this story inevitably will be on television at some point. It just wasn't on 60 minutes this past weekend. But all right, we'll talk about a lot of things.

Take a break. It's the holiday. We're going to have fun as much as we can, or it's the holidays. Merry Christmas to everybody out there as we get closer to Christmas day. Quick break, a lot more. Craig Susan Collins filling in. Tony Katz, the morning news, 93 WIBC. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Right now, your local Toyota dealer has great deals available on some of the most reliable trucks on the market, like the off-road ready Tacoma, rugged, full-sized tundra, and legendary forerunner. Each with the space, tech, and features to handle it all, from the work site to the trails. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid options available, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, meaning bigger savings at the pump without sacrificing power. And it means trading for more. The Tacoma and Tundra are ranked number one and number two in resale value over all vehicles, according to Kelly Boo Book, which can mean thousands more than average right back in your pocket when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. ShopToyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details. Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly Blue Books, KB.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53%. Toyota brand, let's go places. Tony Katz, the morning news, 93 WIBC. My name is Craig Susan Collins filling in. thrilled to be with you. There is a Matt. There is a Carl who are also a part of this show. Matt is also a part of the Matt and Craig Excellent podcast, which is just an amazing thing. I think you should check out this holiday season, I think. It is. Thank you, Matt, for that. Right now the fade. I love it. Yeah, there you go. Why not? Hey, it's one of the ways to introduce you, right? That's not your, you have other stuff, too. You do the, what is the sobriety one again? Yeah, supporting sobriety, yes. Thank you. It's true. Everything you said is true, so that's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it works for me. Yeah. This is your first pop up on the show today. I figure I need to introduce you, you know, professionally and whatnot. Very good. And you happen to be, yeah, you're welcome. You happen to be a big part of the Matt and Craig excellent podcast, which is, I think, taking the iTunes charts by storm. I've heard. I'm not really sure. They even put it on Billboard. It was so popular. We should get one Billboard man in Indianapolis. If you win time, man of the year, I'm not going to be upset. I'm going to be very happy for you, you know. Me too, for you too. We're both going for it. Anyway, let's talk about some crazy stuff out there. This entertained me a lot. I don't know why. I don't think there's a lot of robotaxies yet in Indianapolis. There's not a lot of robotaxies, a lot of places. But they are in California. specifically in San Francisco. And apparently a big power outage a couple days ago, which knocked out a bunch of traffic lights, knocked out all kinds of things, made all the turbo or the robo taxis stop in the middle of intersections, just anywhere they were. So massive roadblocks. If Matt was doing traffic in California a couple days ago, you would have gone insane because cars without drivers got confused and all just stopped moving at all, which I thought was hilarious because it demonstrates the problem.

that will inevitably exist as the computers take over everything. They can't think at certain times. And so I just really love this story. What's your reaction to this? All they can do is write college papers, well. They crushes those, yeah. I'm just having these visions of cars. just stopped and dead in roundabouts. Hamilton County. And in this awful construction zone that's down the one lane each direction on the south side. If a car just stops there, I've been behind a dump truck that just stopped. It wasn't turning. It made a line of three quarters long back to downtown are sitting there like, what the hell is going on? It's just a dump truck that stopped. Yeah. I can only imagine what's that like and how dangerous it gets if that's happening on the interstates, especially. I mean, 465, it's the angriest interstate in the world, of my opinion. But this ain't California traffic. This ain't that. And I can imagine. It feels like it sometimes. Yeah, sure. Yeah, as I reported, I'll drive. I have some time off. I mean up, I always drive in rush hour because I'm a masochist. Yeah, it's bad traffic out there as it is here, but that's a whole other animal, man. Right. Yeah, no, no, Indianapolis traffic feels awful sometimes. There are occasions where you go through it and you're like, how am I still stopped? How is this still terrible? The thing, the solution, I think, to this problem, by the way, of robo-taxies just stopping is they become free cars. Like we should, you should be allowed to keep it. If it's not moving anymore, someone can break into it, Grand Theft Auto style and just keep it. If you're in the back seat of it as a passenger, it's your car down. You get to jump to the front seat and drive it and you get to keep it forever. That would be a nice solution. The companies don't want that. They don't want their cars to go away for free. But the minute they stop in the middle of an intersection and stop moving for no reason whatsoever. That's your car. I think that's the right way to go about this. I was so legislate this. I think it's a brilliant idea. It makes that for any cars that break down, you know? I mean, it's freed. It's abandoned. I think about this time on I 70 on the south end of downtown that brings a truck. I think it rolled over as one of those money driving trucks, you know, a security truck. And it rolls and money just went everywhere. on I-70 in the west side. Wow. That sounds amazing. Yeah, this was like seven or eight years ago and people are jumping out of their cars and grabbing all this money and the state police are like, whoa. Yeah, that's not good. We're going to have to come get that. Right. They're probably going to come get it. You're probably not going to get to keep it. But I actually, this was back when the cameras worked here in Indiana, the traffic cameras, but I actually. was able to see the fence line and all these wads and dollar bills, whatever kind of bills they were just wired into this fence. It was bedlam. It was surreal to see. In the back of your mind in that moment, how bad did you want to leave work and go to that fence? Oh, I had a surrogate.

Okay. You paid a guy. Like, I know where the money is. You got to give me half. It was like, this job's making me money one way or another. I don't care. There we go. We're getting that Matt and Craig excellent podcast billboard, baby. Yes. We're getting it. That was three mentions in one segment. I just want to make sure we know. You're on your game. Thank you, thank you, sir. Real quick, before we take a break, and I'll talk about this more in a bit, people have no idea what day it is starting today, apparently. Throughout the rest of the holiday season, as people don't work more often than not over the next couple weeks, they completely forget what day it is. So that's a brand new study. Yeah, Carl, whatever you say. He's the producer. You get to say. I do like that a lot. So maybe as we go, since I'm filling in for these two weeks at some point, we'll just have people call in and guess what day it is because apparently they might not know. But we'll get to that at some point later. I will take a break. Matt's got traffic. A lot coming up. Craig Susan Collins filling in. Tony Kat's the morning news. 93 WIBC. What is Toyota affordability? It all starts with buying smart, and your Toyota dealer has great deals available to qualified customers on reliable cars and SUVs, including the redesigned RAV-4, spacious Grand Highlander, sporty Camrys, and Corolla's. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid and plug-in hybrid options available throughout the lineup, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, saving you money at the pump. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles. And as the best resale value brand, according to Kelly Blue Book, your Toyota can be worth thousands more than average when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota Fordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. Shop Toyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details. Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly BlueBookskb.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go places. Johnny Katz the Morning News, 93 WIBC. My name is Craig Susan Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you, a bunch of stuff out there to talk about. Let's do a couple quick things. President Trump revealed a brand new class of a boat in the Navy, of a war machine. I don't know what you want to call it. The Trump class, and I enjoyed part of the announcement about this. Yes, he named it after himself. Yes, the left is going insane about the fact that Trump named some military ships after himself. Yes, that's funny to me. It's tremendously funny to me, but here's a little bit of the announcement. Mr. President, Secretary Pete Hegseth, Marco Rubio, thank you for being here on a very consequential day. From my very first conversation with President Trump about serving as a secretary of the Navy, he's talked about the great Iowa class battleship and why America doesn't build ships anymore with that kind of offensive firepower takes the fight to the enemy. During my time in the job, I've talked extensively with our combatant commanders, like Admiral Paparo and Admiral Cooper and our C&O, Admiral Cottle. What I've learned is that not only is the president's idea a good one, it's something that Navy desperately needs and now has a formal requirement for. The future Trump-class battleship, the USS Defiant, will be the largest, deadliest, and most versatile.

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Some other work that I do. Actually, I can mention it here. I'll be on the Dana show today. I'll be filling in as the host of the Dana show. That airs in WIBC. Tomorrow I'll be filling in on the Chad Guy Benson, which is at WIBC. Yeah, thank you. At some point, I probably should interview that crazy dude who does a podcast with me again. Although Matt has popped up. Were you on Dana with me? Is that the show we did? Were you jumped in? I had no idea what I thought. I wasn't sure that was what show did I do with you. It might have been. It was fun. I know that. But I can't remember what show it was. Yeah. We got to do another one. Yeah. We'll do that. Okay, cool. I've just invited you on air, so now you can't say no. Other things out there that I saw, I thought this was interesting. One in five Americans believe that their current relationship relationship is not the one, meaning that they're dating someone, but they're fairly certain they're not getting married to this person, and yet they're not breaking up with them. One in five, 20% of people actively in a relationship are like, yeah, I'm just seeing this through a little bit longer. I'm just hanging in through the holidays or whatever it might be. That seems awful to me, because if you definitively know that the person is not someone you have a future with, you probably should move on to somebody else. Right? That's the right answer. In fairness to the other person, I think it would be a nice thing to do, you know, if you just say, hey, this isn't working out. I'm not going to take any more of your life space in this relationship that I know that's going to fail. that I can't possibly see a longer future in, however much longer I decide to stay. I wonder if there's some level of like mental health benefit, and I mean this as horribly as it sounds, like selfishness in a mental health benefit, to thinking you're the one who's going to end a relationship whenever you feel like it. Like there's some people that might stay in a relationship where they believe they're going to be the breakup e or the breakup er just because they're not afraid of getting broken up with. And that's kind of awful. There might be something very selfish about that. But I wonder if that's a reason people stay. It's not you. It's me. Right. It's me. Whenever I feel like saying. We never mean that when we say it, by the way. No. It's very rare. Or we're BSing ourselves, I think, a lot of times when we. Yeah, man. It's narcissistic, I'd think, to stay in a relationship for whatever reason other than to, unless you have some sort of financial arrangement or maybe an arrangement for pass into the country, whatever it is. None of that's any of my business. I'm just saying as someone, you know, in their 20s was in a relationship and been like, man, I really don't want to be in this relationship and prolong it on and on. It is destructive. To both people. It is bad. It comes out badly. And the breakup is something hellacious. So if it's uncomfortable, but you're used to this person and maybe you're sharing a lifestyle, you know, and hobbies and bills and everything else. It's complicated, man. At least I'd assume I've never been married. What the hell do I know? That's fantastic. Wow, these people aren't married either. These are just people that are dating and deciding they know they're not going to get married, but they're not breaking up. Yeah. I do love that you said there's financial potential arrangements because it sounded like you were references.

what I think the kids call the sugar daddy or the sugar mommy relationship. And I'm not going any deeper into that topic with you, Matt, but I'm glad that it's been out there. I'm glad that it's put under the ether. We all know I'd be a sugar daddy if I had the money. I can't even take a woman to Condado's, to Condado's tacos right now. I'm not paying your rent. Yeah, can I? Okay. We didn't intend to talk about this. I can't believe I'm going to say this on the radio, but I am going to say it. You just made a joke. And yet, once you get married, like, what is the difference between me and a sugar? I'm asking that question, honestly, my wife has access to all my money. And she'll spend it on whatever she wants to spend it on. And I'll just be like, oh, okay, we spent money on that. So I am asking candidly the question as a married man happily married. I'm not, you know, in any other relationships. I just have the one woman in the life. But she essentially has the same level of financial access that someone else would. So I wonder why we disparage one of those two relationships so much when the other one is just sort of what inevitably happens. I'm just putting it out there. What? One is recognized by the state. True. That's true. You do the paperwork. You're right. Wow. See, but even, I mean, the relationship is also not cheap, is what I'm saying, Carl. You know this is a married man. Like, she has access to all the money. My favorite part of the holidays is that my wife does all of our shopping and then I pretend I know what the gifts are that we give people. It's very manly thing to do. No, dude, it's exciting on Christmas Day when people are opening their gifts. I'm like, man, who gave you? Oh, we did. We gave you that. You're welcome. You will know that I've bought a lot of equipment recently for the radio in the podcast. And my wife says, oh, you think that money just grows on trees. She's watching all of this. That's fantastic. Yes. I was going to recommend you guys start your own personal checking account and don't tell her about it, but I don't think they'll prolong the marriage very much. That's not what a marriage is all about, right? You want me to get murdered this holiday season, Matt? If I had my own secret bank account, I don't even know what would happen. I'm married to a Latina, man. Yeah, and you shouldn't talk about it on the air either. Yeah, no, I can't even make this joke. I feel like she's going to pop up behind me at some point in the near future. Like, yeah, now, secret bank account, a horrible idea. This is why Matt's not married in one sentence. The truth will set you free. What is Toyota affordability? It all starts with buying smart. And your Toyota dealer has great deals available to qualified customers on reliable cars and SUVs, including the redesigned RAV-4, spacious Grand Highlander, sporty Camrys and Corolla's. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid and plug-in hybrid options available throughout the lineup, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, saving you money at the pump. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles, and as the best resale value brand, according to Kelly Blue Book, your Toyota can be worth thousands more than average when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more.

Shop Toyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details. Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly BlueBookskb.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go places. Everybody. Having right, looking at northbound 65 on the south side. Slow after Raymond into the southwood. That is a construction zone inbound 69 on clear right now. Coming down from State Road 37. What's up, Fisher's to 465 looking good there. And if you're coming up from Johnson County this morning, northbound 65, pretty fantastic for the moment as you make your way from State Road 44 King up to 465 on the south side. I see no issues. Traffic sponsored by... Super sure. Do you own a small business? You need to hear this. A seismic shift is coming. It's time to get super sure. Not kind of sure. Not pretty sure, but super sure. I'm Matt Bear with traffic on the Fives. Follow us at WIBC traffic. Thank you, Matt. Wish TV meteorologist Tara Hastings. Good morning. How does the weather look? Hey, good morning. We've got mostly cloudy skies out there right now, even a little bit of some light mist and patchy drizzle. We will see clouds decreasing for this afternoon, so some sunshine, high temperatures near 58. Partly cloudy skies tonight, lows the fall to 35. And heading into you Christmas Eve, look for mostly cloudy skies. A few showers will be possible late. High is near 50. We'll go with a high of 57 degrees on Christmas Day. A few light morning showers could be possible. And then 60s heading into Friday. Thank you very much, Tara. Right now, it is 706 Tuesday morning.

Tony Katz, the morning news, 93 WIBC. My name is Craig Susan Collins filling in. I'm thrilled to be with you. a bunch of stuff out there to talk about just a few days before the holiday. I do want to play some audio that's going viral. I think it started going viral yesterday because there's this big conversation about 60 minutes and whether or not the new people in charge or the new person in charge of 60 minutes and CBS News is a radical right winger because she decided to shelve, not totally kill, but shelve a story that would have talked about deportation and the Trump administration. And the reason she did. this was because she didn't think that enough people in Trump's forbids or in his administration were actually, you know, attempted to get interviews with, meaning that the left wanted to tell its version of a narrative story and not actually try to get the other side and they shouldn't do that. But this little piece of audio has leaked and it's pretty funny or it's been out there maybe for a little while. I don't even know if leaked is the right word, but it's certainly getting a higher focus now. Because how insanely left leaning this simple sentence is. So I'll play it for you. And if you can't tell, I'll tell you why it's ridiculous. But here we go. This is part of the 60-minute story that didn't wind up being on television earlier this week. That now is causing people to contemplate all different kinds of crazy things and a yell and scream in political ways. Rapid deportations have been a key part of the Trump administration's immigration overhaul. The administration considers anyone who crosses the border illegally to be a criminal. I want to stop it right there. So that's the sentence that's kind of ridiculous that's on 60 Minutes. The Trump administration considers anyone who crosses the border illegally to be a criminal, is the actual sentence said on television. Right. That is true. That is a crime. You're not allowed to be here. I wish they did that for other stuff. They're like anybody who shoots one person is considered to be a criminal. And that's just crazy. Because of course it's not. Of course, it makes sense to all of us. And of course, if something as horrific as an actual, you know, violent crime takes place in news media, the left is going to blame guns and conservatives for that too. But in this case, like this person's innocent. How dare you say anything, even though the prerequisite, pre-requisite, excuse me, of the sentence is that they're crossing illegally into our country. which is a crime i want to play one more time the administration considers anyone who crosses the border illegally to be a criminal

I find that hilarious. I truthfully do because it's so ridiculous in how one-sided that kind of thinking is. How brainwashed people seem to be on a certain side of the political aisle that they don't even notice. Or maybe they obviously notice and do it intentionally. It's either or. But some people wouldn't even notice that as they watched that on television and said, yeah, that is crazy that he considers some of the people who committed a crime criminals. Anyway, all right, we'll move on. There are other things out there, as I said, to talk about. And mostly I just am getting so annoyed with this story. But I do quite a bit like the fact that there's this and then there's now calls to impeach Pam Bondi. And they're calling to impeach Pam Bondi over the belief that she didn't put out enough of the Epstein files. I think that this has long been. at least over the last few months, if not longer than that, been a kind of thing where Democrats actually don't want anything else to come out. They want the conversation to be about the lack of things that are in the public eye that they can tell you exist, no matter what they are. Of course, they want Trump to be in trouble. So part of the left will never be satisfied, no matter how much stuff comes out regarding Epstein, because it won't get Trump in trouble. And so they'll keep telling you there's something else that's been hidden. Someone else is responsible for hiding something. That doesn't mean there aren't still potentially more files and things that should be released. There was a law that was written that did say everything has to come out unless it's actually to protect an ongoing investigation or a victim. And so who knows? What inevitably will happen there? But I love the fact that at the end of the day, the real message or real goal of people on the other side of the political aisle from Trump. is that they want things or the appearance of things to be hidden so that they can tell you that those things are, of course, all the bits of proof that you don't have that Trump's a bad guy. Because they don't care about anything else. They only care about that one scalp. And they've cared about it for a very long time. And they've continued to swing and miss or like literally shoot and miss horrifically as it is when trying to remove the president in any way, shape, or form from our society or from power. They have continued to fail at that. So thank God they've continued to fail at that, by the way, because of how horrific some of those things are. But nonetheless, I will say. And I mean this as candidly as I can, that this will never stop. They'll keep trying to find some version of a story where they can pretend as though the secret is so big that you have to know about it. And as you continue to see the crap that exists within that narrative, hopefully more and more people wake up to how ridiculous that position is. But the Epstein story and even the resistance to put it out for quite a while seems to all be playing together to demonstrate. how inauthentic the desire was from Jump to actually find sex traffickers responsible for sex crimes, which should have been the goal all along. All right, quick break, a lot more coming up. Craig Susan Collins filling in. Tony Katz the Morning News, 93WI. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Your local Toyota dealer has great deals available today on Tacoma, Tundra, and Forerunner with the space and features for any adventure.

It means driving for less with available hybrid options delivering great MPGs without sacrificing power. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles, meaning your truck will hold its value for years to come. Shop Toyota.com to find out more. Toyota, let's go places. Be safe. That's a great Christmas song. Tony Cat's the Morning News, 93 WIBC. My name is Craig Susan Collins filling in. You have Matt and Carl hanging out as they do every single morning on this show. Let's do a popcorn moment, which is brought to you by Boer Remodeling. Let's go ahead and get this going. All right. The popcorn moment is almost always, although actually I'm not sure. Maybe Carl could even correct this for me. It's usually in the world of politics or news. It's not usually in the world of sports. But today I had to make it in the world of sports because there was something that happened last night, even though I know the Colts lost and they lost pretty badly by the end of that game. But there were multiple moments that happened, especially in the first half, that made you thrilled to be a 40-year-old guy because Philip Rivers is a 40-year-old guy. And he did quite well on the field, at least in the first half of that game, for somebody that probably isn't NFL quality anymore. He definitely struggled to throw the ball down field toward the end of the game, which is a problem. But nonetheless, I have him calling a play and kind of commanding everyone in a pre-snap operation that I thought was amazing. So here is the popcorn moment to me. It was Philip Rivers on Monday night football. And he was able to get the ball to Taylor for a first down. Seven, one, 80. Hi, 80. Hi, Lincoln, Thunk. Lincoln Thur. Get him. Get him. 40. Hey, rap. We're good, 48, 48. Delta, sons. Like a traffic cop putting guys in place and he's got a man wide open. That sounds. Yeah, baby. Wide open. Again, I was so cool. I ever heard a cadence like isolated like that before. That was really cool. I thank you, Matt. Yeah, it's great. And honestly, it was the popcorn moment for me yesterday. It was watching Philip Rivers play football on Monday night for the Indianapolis Colts five years after last playing in an NFL NFL game minus last week. So he's done this now two weeks in a row. And shouldn't be as good as he is, even if there were some struggles, as I said, toward the tail end of the game. And probably one of the reasons, one of the best teams in the NFL beat up on the cults. But nonetheless, still, I think a story worth continuing to pay attention to because of how entertaining it is. Right? It makes you as an also 40-year-old guy feel better. It makes you feel and I feel like we could do this. We can't. There's no, you know, world. at least for me, where I could suit up and be an NFL quarterback. But Philip Rivers doing it makes the crazy part of my brain think, I could probably do it, maybe for a drive or something. And the answer is, of course, I can't. But that's the reason I enjoy it so much. Yeah, I liked it too, especially from the 40-year-old man. And a cult's perspective, it's, you know, we were told so many times at least I was in my 20s, or maybe nobody told me anything. I just had this misguided perception of people in their 40s.

It's over, baby. Do you remember? I remember my folks having these over the hill parties and there would be black balloons with the number 40 on them. And it's like, wow, this is really sad. But everybody's getting drunk and party. Yeah, over the hill. Like, what is? Is this sad or happy? I don't know. I don't know. I can't tell. But it's so not true. There we go. Let's do that. Let's lift everybody up. It's so not true. And I know Craig Susan Collins or Mad Bear aren't going to be an NFL quarterback. Now, showbiz will be. Showbiz could absolutely be a NFL quarterback. Carl could suit up tomorrow. But just the fact to see him go out and do this. Wait a minute. Wait, Matt. Wait a second. Carl's also in charge of the sounders. That was a correct sounder. Is that all you played there, Carl? Yes. We said you could be in the NFL. Absolutely. I can suit up right now when Philip Rivers goes down. Bravo. I love that he didn't even chime in, Matt. He's just like, yeah, that's going to play a correct sound to that. Go ahead. Continue, Matt. No, I was just going to say, but as a Colts fan, Philip Rivers gives us something to be excited about because I don't know if you follow this or not, Craig. This season has careened. You know, in a way that's just been heartbreak. You know, we're close friends. We're used to heartbreak. I mean, we had the Super Bowl, Hank Basket fumbling the football, you know, we lost that Super Bowl to the Saints. We know this kind of stuff. But to be so good and to be so dominant and to be the exact opposite for the second half of the season, at least there's Philip Revers to cheer for. At least Phillips there. And we can all get behind him. He really wants to be there. He seems like an indie guy, so we're cool with it. And hopefully he'll not hurt himself these last two games. Not just because I occasionally work at WIBC and Indianapolis, but because Daniel Jay Jones is a former giant who was terrible for the giants and great for the cults. I was actively paying attention to the cults at the beginning of the year when they and Daniel Jay Jones both seemed incredible. So yeah, it's definitely heartbreaking toward the end here. And it's nice to have something that still excites you. If you don't think the cults are going to win on Monday night, at least you can watch Philip Rivers. play on Monday night. It doesn't make anyone else on that roster feel great, as we said yesterday, like the Riley Leonards of the world, that they have a future in Indianapolis. But now let's not care about that. That doesn't matter because it is fun. And it was really cool to see the cults hang in at least for half of that game last night. All right. Some other things out there just quickly to talk about. I thought this was interesting. A poll came out of the UK that said that people are now overwhelmingly turning to artificial intelligence. for, I'm going to call it relationship advice. It's actually much more adult than that, the advice that they're turning to AI for. But it's a morning show. So let's go with the relationship or love advice. We can call it love advice. The biggest reason that people are turning to AI and not friends or even the person you're in a relationship with to discuss love is because the AI is non-judgmental. Anything you tell it, anything you want to ask questions about, the AI will lean in. And real people don't always lean in when you tell them weird stuff that might exist again in the world of, and air quotes this time, love. Any thoughts on AI being the place that people now turn to ask questions about adult topics? Yeah, that's not going to work.

It's not going to work at all. It is not. It is not. It's like putting your cheat code, you know, to your relationship, you know, being an old school gamer. And, you know, back from the original Atari at NES days where you put in codes and all of a sudden you'd have mass amount. It's kind of the same thing to me. I mean, you're not doing this in getting advice with resistance. That's what therapies for. But to actually get relationship advice when you should be talking to the person, I don't see how that works. I mean, especially when there's not any pushback. That's not a fight. It's just, you know, making your side even stronger. That's all you're doing. Right. Well, and even more so, getting advice from an AI is not going to actually help you in the conversation with the misses. Like, she's not going to care when you get to the point where you're like, hey, but AI said this was okay. She will absolutely slap you in the face. That doesn't work. Until you're moron. Right. And I do love the fact that you also said codes don't work because I should try the Konami code of my wife sometime. In the middle of a fight, I should just, like, say out loud, up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, be a start and see what happens. And when she doesn't do anything different, that means the Konami code, famous in gaming, does not work. That code gives you 30 lives, and she will take all 30 of them away from you. I guarantee. In Contra, it gives you 30 lives. I love that. Me and Matt like video games, too. You can hear about that on the Matt and Craig Excellent Pocket. All right, we'll take a... We'll take a break. Matt's got traffic more coming up in a bit. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Your local Toyota dealer has great deals available today on Tacoma, Tundra, and Forerunner with the space and features for any adventure. It means driving for less, with available hybrid options, delivering great MPGs without sacrificing power. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles, meaning your truck will hold its value for years to come. Shop Toyota.com to find out more. Toyota, let's go places. Tony Katz the Morning News 93 WIBC. My name is Craig Susan Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to talk about, as always. It is time for our marketplace segment, which is brought to you by Indiana Unclaimed. Indiana Unclaimed is a great place to go if you want to get free money, which all of us have gotten. I think some more than others on this very program. You're not going to win the Powerball. Probably not. But you can get some free cash if you go to Indiana Unclaimed. and tell them, you know, hey, I'm pretty sure that Indiana owes me money somehow. Even me, who hasn't lived there in a long time. The thing that I found in Marketplace, which I think I forgot to tweet out for you guys, is an Apple 2-WAS edition computer, is what it's called. It's incredibly old. It has the... floppy disk stuff that you remember from computers back in the day. It's a collector's item. It is going for $350 on Facebook Marketplace. It's in caramel or caramel, where you can get it. I like to call it caramel, but it's carmel. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah, I know. It sounds better that way. But anyway, the funniest thing to me about this computer, even though it's a collector's item, and it says it's in great condition, completely useless. No one would have any value in doing anything on this thing because technology is so much better.

than it was back then. I'll be asked if you want to buy a old, old Apple computer for $350. You can get one on the internet online in Indiana. Does I have a dial-up modem? I don't think so. I don't think you can go on the Internet. I don't think it can do that. Yeah. You said it was a 250. A 250 would be before Internet Times, I believe. Yeah, it's an Apple 2. Yeah, an Apple 2. Yeah, but you could connect to the phone, right, and then have your dial-up modem. I don't think so. I don't know about this, guys. This looks like the kind of thing. That might kill a computer of that size. I don't know if a motor. No, like you remember the computers. Well, I don't know who remembers this. Maybe we went to fancier high schools and grade schools than I did. But I remember, like, in grade school, you had a computer this bad in the corner of the room that would just take a floppy desk. I think that's all it can do, man. I don't think you can do anything else. Well, yeah, you'd play Oregon Trail on that little computer. Get yourself some good old-fashioned dysentery. At some point, you're definitely going to get dysentery. I mean, that goes for life. Right. It's a right of passage of my family. Man, you know what? That almost feels like a version of airing of grievances for Festivus, which our newsroom just did a great job of referencing that is the thing right now. What's your version of dysentery? We can all ask that question. Like, how did you get dysentery this year? It doesn't have to be the actual disease. It's the bad thing that happened to you because we all get dysentery. That is how life works. Now, is this a question that I should broach on the way to church for Christmas Eve or wait until after? I think it's an after church. Is that an after church conversation? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they just don't feel good about, you know, the candlelight in the church. You remember Christmas Eve services. They're so beautiful when you walk out with the candles. You'd be like, you know, this reminds me the last time I had dysentery. But no, if we're doing this in the abstract, meaning that it doesn't actually have to be an illness, but something bad that happened to you, do you have a case of dysentery this year, Matt? Yeah, okay. Okay, now, okay, now that I understand. All right. Do you have one? Is there an example in the last year where you got quote unquote dysentery? I don't believe so, but there were some times where I questioned it. All right. Yeah, it's pretty, so far so good, but the year ain't over yet, Craig. That's true. I do have one, and I prepped Carl about this topic because I don't know if I should talk about it, but hey, it's not here. It's at a different radio station. So that doesn't count, right? If the thing that I'm talking about and somewhat complaining about isn't at WIBC, then who cares? Here is how I got dysentery this year, if you guys don't mind. I was given a Christmas bonus at a company I've been working at for just a few months. And then someone had to come to me from HR. and say I wasn't supposed to get the bonus. What? The Christmas, I know. They're like, you know, it's supposed to be people who've been here a year. We're so sorry. We feel terrible. And like, I understand. It makes sense. I haven't been there a year yet.

So actually for the holiday, I have to write a check and give money back to my employer. And everybody else around me got a Christmas gift. You've got to be getting me. No, dude, it's hilarious to me, though. Like, I don't think it's anybody's fault. No one did anything wrong. It's not your fault. You keep the money. Well, that wouldn't be so bad. Your wife hasn't spent the money yet, has she? Not that I'm aware of, Carl, although who knows. But you know, it's funny to Matt's point, there have been references in some meetings I've been sitting in where some people have been like, you know, we could let them keep it. it. And you just got to be quiet when you sit there and they say that because, yes, I would like that approach. Let's just let me keep it. But it's against the policy. Like the policy says you have to work there a year. I've only been there a few months. So nobody's wrong. It's just uniquely odd. to write a check to my employer to give them money for Christmas. My mind is just blown right now. You know, when you give somebody money, you give somebody. How would you, and listen, you're the person totally getting jobs in this situation, no doubt. But how would you like to be the HR person that has to go up to somebody and be like, hey, you've got to write a check to the company because we screwed up. Right. I mean, this is so bad in so many ways, man. I mean, this is. No, dude, I'll be honest. I don't want to dog anybody, man. I don't know. Don't because I work for these people. I still work for the mat. Don't do anything more. Yeah. I will say this though. They're a good group, I'm sure. And somebody doesn't know something, you know. Somebody, yeah, hit a wrong button. But anyway, the thing that's funniest to me is the day that it happened, my coworkers must have known before I did because somebody bought me lunch. Somebody gave me like an extra Christmas gift card for a thing. And then eventually the HR person came in. They're like, hey, I got to talk to you. That check you got that was bigger than it was supposed to be. Whoopsies. We need that back. Did you see in your checking account like $5 million? No, man. It's not like that. No. It's not even close to that. Yeah. No, no. You weren't like adding two pennies subtracted a penny or anything like that. No, it's nothing like that. But again, I do love the. And I actually have bank with chime, which this is not actually a promotion for any sort of bank out there. And they're an internet bank, but they pay you early. So I got the money before I even had the pay stub to understand why I got the money. So when they were talking to me about it, I already knew that I was in fact paid more than I was supposed to be. Like that part was already true. And anyway, I just thought it was so funny. That's how I got dysentery though this year. I had to give Christmas money back to the people who worked for. Anybody else out there have a dysentery story? You can tell us on the internet. You can tell us by commenting on, you know, Facebook or something and maybe we'll throw some of those out there. The goal is to have fun. I would like for these to be more fun and not. A sad, but we'll do whatever if we want to do some of those. It's as if Santa Claus came to your house, gave you a big, big present, and then came back and go, I went to the wrong house. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. That is a, see, and we can find humor in this. We can. No, that's things. That hurts because that's exactly what it is. That feels bad. Oh, man. Thanks, man. Showbiz. Come on. Come on. Come on, Chobis. Yeah, no, thanks. Plus, by the way, the check that I'm inevitably writing to my work, I am going to put Merry Christmas on the bottom of it because I have to. You've got.

All right. We've got to take a break. A lot more coming up. Craig Susan Collins filling in. Tony Katz, the morning news, 93 W. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Right now, your local Toyota dealer has great deals available on some of the most reliable trucks on the market, like the off-road ready Tacoma, rugged, full-sized tundra, and legendary forerunner, each with the space, tech, and features to handle it all. From the work site to the trails. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid options available, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, meaning bigger savings at the pump without sacrificing power. And it means trading for more. The Tacoma and Tundra are ranked number one and number two in resale value over all vehicles, according to Kelly Boo Book, which can mean thousands more than average right back in your pocket when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart. Drive for less and trade for more. Shop Toyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details. Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly Blue Books, KB.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go places. YBC. Tony Katz, the morning news. 93 WIBC. My name is Craig Susan Collins filling in. Thank you to some people who are sending me Facebook messages about the story I just told on the radio about my Christmas bonus. I'm not here with this organization that I work with just part-time. But another company I work for that is asking for back. That was something we were talking about a little bit ago. And I got messages from a few WIBC listeners at Radio Craig C, where you can follow me on social media saying they feel bad for me. That wasn't the intention. of the story, by the way, but I appreciate the pity. It's fine. Other things out there, Matt and Carl hanging out, of course, on the show, as they do every single day. Chipotle apparently is trying to lean in to the ridiculous amount of people who are now taking a weight loss drug, like a GLP1 type of drug, and they're creating a GLP1 friendly menu. This is a real story that's out there in the news and I thought was hilarious. What does that mean? It means that you just have less food. And I think it's basically the same price or it's more protein heavy food is what they're saying. But the serving size is smaller because you're not likely to finish the typical serving size if you're on some sort of weight loss drug like Ozympic or Wagovi. which says something maybe about the amount of food we normally consume as people compared the amount we consume when we're on some sort of drug. Anyone want to weigh in on the topic of Chipotle, of all places, trying to lean in to weight loss drugs and how they impact their sales? Yeah, that's not going to work. You go to Chipotle, one, because of the portion sizes, because you think you're thinking. You are eating healthy while you're not. That's the big thing. That's true. And that's their hook. And they have the protein in there, the vegetables. But what they don't account is there's still going to be some grease and some sauces and other things. And that can add a big time. It's delicious, though. Yeah. Oh, it's amazing. But you can't. What world can you go from big portions of smaller portions?

Where is that acceptable? Because it's not going to fly in Indiana. I can tell you that. We like our larger portions. And I like to eat specifically. And it reminds me a little bit of Cracker Barrel earlier in the year. You have this big brand in this audience and this demographic that you know enjoys your product to death. And then all of a sudden you start making a tweak. This is going to be a small tweak. It's going to raise the bottom line this much. You make this tweak it. Everything just comes down like tinker toys. Yeah, and that's what happened to Cracker Barrel. And Chipotle, I wouldn't say it's as far as removing a logo like Cracker Barrel did, but they're kind of playing in the margins on this one. You got to watch out because you don't want to piss off your main demographic. You don't want to do that. Yeah. I love that. Cracker Barrel got dysentery this year when they decided to change their logo. Yeah. And now, Chipotle might be getting dysentery, or they're probably giving it to you in some way with their smaller portions. I love that. And anyone who has no idea what I'm saying, you missed the last segment, and I'm not doing it again. All right. I'm not going to explain it. Listen to the podcast. All right. New studies also reveal the reason that a lot of men, especially fathers, feel like they're no longer as energetic as they used to be. It seems like this would be obvious as far as the study, but the study asked 1,000 dads over the age of 30 why they think that they don't have the same level of, you know, energy to do household chores, exercise, anything. And a lot of them just said, I don't know. I just feel like I can't. And here's my favorite part of this study, by the way. It was paid for by hymns.com. Hymns.com is a website that sells certain things. Yeah, they sell certain things. They're mostly known for romantic pills and whatnot. They're saying that low tea is the biggest reason that men are struggling with fatigue and other stuff and just getting more testosterone. is going to fix all those problems. Matt Baer, do you want to weigh in on this one? Testosterone fixes everything. I mean, when you get in your 40s and 50s, testosterone is the elixir. That's the miracle drug right there. I mean, even, I shouldn't be saying this. Even when I have regular testosterone levels, I want more. There's some sort of desire for me to feel like I'm in my 20s again, and that's just not going to happen at any point. But it is. It puts you in a better move. It does all of those things. If you have a low testosterone and you're a dude, that's not something. And you're a dude like there are going to be females. If you have lower testosterone, that's something you don't want to mess around with. You want more testosterone. You want that to be level, you know. You do. Yeah. Do you take a testosterone supplement of any kind? Matt? You don't want to talk about that. I quit. It was making me crazy because I did have a regular testosterone level and all of a sudden I started taking a supplement that wasn't FDA regulated. No, it didn't come from. You know, anywhere overseas or anything is completely legal and over the counter. But it was too much testosterone. And I was a little, I was more anxious than what I normally am. So let's say. I got you. Yeah.

Yeah, were you like bursting through walls and stuff, man? Was that what was happening there? Because you said it got to be too much. I tried lots of times. Brick wall concrete, you know, it's whatever it takes. Yeah, and you're just a little more sensitive to things. It's been years since I've done this. Gotcha. But you, there is a drastic effect. And it's one of those things why it. all of a sudden presents highs on a certain level, but the lows are bad too. So you want that to be right. We always want more, but you want that to be balanced. I think the biggest reason I might have an overly large amount of interest in this is because I just turned 40, as I've mentioned on this show before, and I kind of want to try some enhanced testosterone. I want to go that road, especially when I read this, like, oh, you're tired in the middle of the day. It's aging, and you could just accept that as normal, or you could load up in testosterone and see what happens. And I feel like the second one sounds uniquely fun to me, although I don't know if it actually will be. I'll probably turn into Matt. I would like to burst through one wall in my life, just one time. You know, like it doesn't even have to be a strong wall. It can be a very weak wall. I would like to just one time explode from one side of the wall to the other. And I hear testosterone the way to do that. When I was in my 20s. When that was in my 20s, I tried to do a wall run. That was my thing. I tried to run a wall. Like, you know, a horizontal thing. Yeah. Like Bo Jackson. Yeah. I hurt myself several times. All right. Let's try it again, Matt. Let's do a viral video. You and me. We can do it to promote the Matt and Craig Excellent podcast. I got it out there again. One guy runs through a wall. The other one runs on it. There you are. No, I think both of us are going to fail.

Tony Katz, the morning news, 93 WIBC, almost a Thursday morning. I almost got the day wrong myself. And actually people now, until the end of the year, will forget what day it is more often than any other time during the year because the holidays are upon us. All right, let's do a couple quick things. First, I thought this was interesting from Secretary Bergam, Doug Burgum talking about some of what has been going on in the world as far as farm-related projects are concerned. Energy-related projects are concerned. He was talking about windmill and saying that we're going to not use some for a bunch of different security risks. But also, and this is the fact probably most buried in this story, one natural gas pipeline creates as much energy as all five of the project that the Trump administration just shelved. which, of course, the left is screaming and yelling is somehow bad and horrible, and it's a war against green energy or what the crap. But let's play some of this audio from Fox of the secretary talking about it. We're sending notifications to the five large offshore wind projects that are under construction that their leases will be suspended due to national security concerns. During this time of suspension, we'll work with the companies to try to find a mitigation. But we've completed the work the President Trump has asked us to do. The Department of War has come back conclusively that the issues related to these large offshore wind. programs have create radar interference that creates a genuine risk for the U.S., particularly related to where they are in proximity to our East Coast population centers. Yeah, that seems bad when you hear it that way. But darn it, if you're the left, you're mad because windmills have been turned off. And again, windmills that don't even really create the comparable amount of energy to a simpler solution that doesn't cause any sort of radar interference. But I digress. That's a story that's out there that's being obsessed about. There's also this, and I do like this a lot, Jasmine Crockett, politician out of Texas, someone that President Trump has referred to as low IQ on several occasions. She is now going to try to run to be a senator because of redistricting that's happened here in Texas, where I live, and certainly redistricting is a big conversation in Indiana, too, of course. But what I find interesting about it is the newest attack is very much racial in nature. Everyone on the left saying that if you don't vote for this person, a Jasmine Crockett, a black woman, it's because you're racist, sexist, or both. When the reality is, it might be because she's completely inauthentic as a person. And so a few different places on social media, on Facebook and Twitter and whatnot, put up a side-by-side comparison of Jasmine Crockett talking like she's from the hood and then talking like she's not from. that part of the world. And it's really interesting to hear the juxtaposition between speaking one way and speaking another way from someone who's saying that she's authentic and that if you don't vote for her, it's because of racism or sexism. I wanted to play this. I know this is Indiana, not Texas, even though I live in the latter of the two places, just because I think that this is the problem a lot of times in politics, the lack of people being capable of just being genuine.

either genuinely who they are or answering questions in a genuine way. It is in fact a problem. And so whichever of these two is performative from Jasmine Crockett, the fact that they both exist out there is her problem. And the one thing I would continue to say about President Trump is that he's one of the most authentic people in the room all the time wherever he goes. Whether that place is on television or not on television, he seems to be the same person. everywhere and that can be appealing regardless of what you think is some of the policies that someone, not that I dislike them. But even if you did, you still want authenticity more than anything else. There's a ton of studies in media that say how true that is. But let's listen to Jasmine Crockett show you that she's two different people at the same time. And that is actually what they are fearful of is my authenticity because it rings true with every single American. You know, no one could have told me that when I went down to Austin. now looks like a little bit over a year ago that I would be running for Congress. Because these people, they are crazy because they always talk about how Christian they is. Yeah, I don't know how many of them on that side are getting divorced because they're getting caught up sleeping with their co-workers, staffers, interns, all the things. On campus mailboxes. And at that time, my school hired the Cochran firm. And there was- Okay, I got to step right there. It was like halfway through. You can tell each time it transitions from someone who's not speaking one way to someone who is speaking one way, how crazy it is. This different version of just spoken word like tone has such an impact on, I think, the perception of an individual. And we've seen this before, not just from black politicians, but from white ones. There were people like Hillary Clinton who would all of a sudden have a weird extra tone when she was speaking to certain groups. And this should infuriate you regardless of what side of any of these political issues you're on because the performance is the thing that hurts us the most. The inauthenticity is the thing that hurts us the most. It convinces us as the American people that the people we send to Washington, D.C. don't care about us and will do nothing to benefit us. And they often prove that fear to be true. Let's do a little more. A lawyer who graduated from University of Houston. It was assigned to me. You're not. You're not.

We are. You can't pay us enough to find a plantation. I want the American people to know that when you stand up to a bully, you win. Do not back down. Do not bend. And I'm going to be the first one. You and your little friend off of Twitter, y'all about to find out, all right? That's enough. You get it. You get the idea. But there's so many different politicians who behave exactly this way that it becomes the biggest reason. I think that people like President Trump are so successful with so many Americans, even ones who might not agree with everything he actually does in office. Again, I'm not one of those people. I'm just trying to couch it in that because there's some infighting in the conservative party right now that came from a very different place that I'll talk about a little bit later on in the show. But I just think it's amazing because I think if there's one thing I hate most about politics, it's the fakeness of it. And that's something that you gravitate toward when people actually convince you they're immune to that. And Trump constantly does that. All right. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Susan Collins filling in. Tony Katz the Morning News, 93 WIBC. Tony Katz the morning news 93 WIBC. My name is Craig Susan Collins filling in. You have Matt and Carl hanging out as they do every single morning on this show. Matt Bear, the advertiser for the last traffic. That was a fencing place. What was it again? Yeah, it was fencing. U.S.A. fencing, yes. They teach you how to fight with swords? Yeah, sword fighting, essentially, for the athletic people. Well, no, hold on. This sounds amazing as an advertisement or a potential sponsor of the Matt and Craig Excellent podcast. I'm going to be honest with you because thank you, Carl. And I'm probably going over and above this year or this show. We should do this in our 40s, right? We should show that you can still learn something new. I think this would make sense with the fencing people. I would love to try this. I've always thought fencing is really fascinating. I don't know if I have the kind of agility, but I'd like to find out and try. And that's why this is compelling to me. The problem is when I think of fencing, I think a brave heart, because that's the only images of my head of sword finding. So I'm kind of worried I'm going to try to grab that sword with two hands and run at my opponent or something like that. I don't want to slip into that mode. So, yeah, a lesson would be good on etiquette, yeah, which these people will provide. What I think about fencing is like the rich people in movies that want to show that they're all so dangerous. That's what fencing does. It's like you got to have that one scene where the guy who's influential and well off also happens to be good with a sword. And fencing is the best way to do that because you can do that in the middle of a mansion. You can do fencing anywhere. So, you know, I want to be that guy a little bit. I think the fencing people could teach me how to be that guy. Everybody has a Hitoriano sword above their mantle, you know. Yeah, they do. They have to show it off to show how diabolical they are. Right. Well, because you can't have like a gun range in the middle of your mansion. That's not going to work. It's a great idea. It is a great idea. That would be awesome. You just got a random shooting range halfway through a conversation you're having. That'd be incredible. I mean, not like in the kitchen or anything. No. Why would you put it there? Yeah.

Yeah, that'd be great. Honestly, I think I might need to put that in some house that I own in the future. Just in the middle of a conversation, you've got to be able to take a few shots on your gun range. Yeah, it's just a stress reliever of the best kind, you know. Yeah, if I had a daughter and a guy was coming over to take her on a date, I would need to hit the gun range halfway through my conversation with that young man. That would be perfect. Hey, died, our first date, we're going to taco. No, no, no, no, no. I've got your first day plan. This is exactly what you're doing, and you're staying here. By the way, real quick, is Taco Bell a sponsor of this radio station? Do they sponsor us? Okay, all right. I went to the Taco Bell recently. I'm going to call it the Taco Bell. And I'm disappointed how expensive things are, specifically a Taco Bell. Like, I know it's expensive everywhere. I know it's not their fault. But you used to be able to get 1,000 tacos for like $7 a Taco Bell. And now not even close to the same thing. And I, again, I consumed it recently. I enjoyed it. I had a good time. But I'm disappointed that it costs like 20 bucks now to have five tacos. That doesn't seem right. 20 bucks? It's not my. I don't know. I think I might have got a fancier taco. Don't shoot the messenger here, Matt. No, I totally feel it. No, I totally get you because why you're talking about that, I've looked up Taco Bell Cantina, which we have downtown Indiana. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe, yeah. They serve alcoholic beverages. And I'm trying to think, okay, downtown prices and say this alcoholic beverage came out to be like $12. And all of a sudden you're thinking, I should go on a dinky planes for this. Yes. I don't know. So, yeah, the prices go up everywhere. And I'm just kind of going through the menu. And first off, I don't want my burrito to look this nice when I get it out of a Taco Bell bag. I want something that's just kind of smashed up and all over the place. So this is definitely not going to work. But yeah, Taco Bell should be cheap. Taco Bell. The bell should be cheap. It should be. And I want something to look like somebody stepped on it before they put it in the bag for me. Right. Because that's now, I'm not eating it for the looks of it. Yeah, okay. Anyway. What are the prices at Ocho's Locos? I don't know what you're talking about, Carl. I'm going to plead the fifth here now. For everybody that doesn't know. Yeah, anybody that doesn't know, Ohost Locos is a chain of restaurants in Texas that I've recently discovered. That is what a lot of people say, Latin hooters. It's hooters, but everybody that works there is Latina. And I may or may not have gone in one time accidentally. Of course, getting lost somewhere on the road. On lingerie day. With the misses where it was lingerie day, which is where they were wearing laundry. Thank you. You know, it's funny about that, just real quick, and this doesn't matter. I don't know why I'm talking about this in Indianapolis radio, but I am, is I talked about that on the radio in Texas where I am. And people called in to say the food there is terrible and they don't care. They're like, ah, it's awful food, but none of us care about it. It's not high quality. I know. It's not high quality. It's not delicious. But that's not the reason that people go into that establishment. And the restaurant doesn't seem to mind the fact that people talk about how the food's not really that good, which seems like that's important. You know, like the excuse with Hooters was always, I like the wings. And the wings actually were pretty good. You can't make that same excuse other places.

Yeah, but when you go to Hooters, you're not expecting like Wings Asian Fusion or anything. You're just expecting, like you said, the reason you go to Hooters. That's all you really want. And I've never had a bad taco in my life. So much respect to my audience, but all tacos are good. All tacos come from heaven. And that's pretty much. That's right. Yeah. Oh, yeah, no, I didn't have a bad taco. That's crazy to say out loud. I agree with you, man. Like, you can't have a bad. Was it delicious? No. Was it bad? Of course not. It was a taco. Anyway, before we take a break, can I wind up finding out I'm divorced at some point on the show, which I feel like it could happen. One last thing I saw that I thought was funny, Gen Z is searching social media for jobs now. Gen Z has given up on finding jobs the normal way. So now the way they're doing it is they're looking on social media for someone else that's Gen Z that says my company's hiring. And then they try to apply that way. They're wondering if this is a good approach. Job hunting? I think anything is a good. I think it's totally fine. Probably do it the traditional way, any other way you can. But sure, if you're just looking on social media for job posts or news or anything, at least you're doing something. That's my reaction to that story. But I thought it was interesting that that's the biggest way that they say the younger generations are finding their next job is just looking for somebody's post on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram or something. Well, we're not, it's not like the days with our first jobs, Craig and Carl. I mean, I guess it's not you. copy 100 resumes and start hitting them out to businesses. You know, like I would do when I was trying to get into whatever when I was a kid. I mean, there is a new method of doing this. It used to be, you know, show up entirely. And that still works. You know, if you're volunteering or trying to get a head start somewhere. I get that. But now it is more social media. And I believe there's less interaction. A long time ago, I applied for a job. And I got that first phone interview. It was very intrapersonal. I mean, I didn't feel like a... I was being asked questions than nobody else was asked. And that's fine. That's the employer. They can do that. But I'm just saying the old way is rapidly involving some sort of, you know, less personal dynamic that we have now. And I guess I accept that. It's just the way it's going. You know, it's where we're headed, man. Yeah, well, no, and feeling like you need an end to get a job is a unique thing. Like feeling like you need to know somebody on the inside to get through the first round of resumes does feel like something that a lot of people are experiencing. So I get it if you're looking on social media to find someone who'd be your in and then message them like, oh, you're hiring. I need this job. That sounds like a wise approach in some ways, actually. All right, we'll take a break. We've got traffic coming up, a little bit more coming up in the show. Craig Susan Collins filling in, Tony Katz, the morning news, 93 WIBC. Tony Katz the Morning News 93 WIBC. My name is Craig Susan Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you, a bunch of stuff to talk about. The United States is ramping up some of its pressure on Venezuela. One of the ways in which we're doing that is having a giant armada of ships capable of doing whatever we want them to do near the Venezuelan border. I think that President Trump talked about this recently and what he thinks it means for...

any sort of provocative action that the country would take against us, which seems incredibly unlikely here. Let me play that audio first. He can do whatever he wants. I mean, we have a massive armada formed, the biggest we've ever had. And by far the biggest we've ever had in South America, he could do whatever he wants. It's all right. Whatever he wants to do. If he wants to do something, if he plays tough, it'll be the last time he's ever able to play tough. But I think that's amazing. I laugh at that because of the matter-of-fact way in which he says it. If he plays tough, it'd be the last time that they're capable of doing that because we'd be tougher. And that is true. By the way, Venezuela is a place that has a ton of corruption, a ton of poverty, just horrible things happen there. They send a tremendous amount of drugs to us. Like, there's so many ways in which the left would consider it to be kindness. philanthropy, whatever you want to call it, for the United States to try to pressure Venezuela to be a better place. Like more or less to say it that way, the left would be thrilled about this. The fact that it's Trump doing it means they hate it, means they think it's horrible and terrible, and that every boat that we blow up had to be fishers, fishermen, that somehow we're getting lost and not, you know, using a boat that it all is conducive to fishing and that it can't possibly be drug dealers trying to bring drugs into our country or other places. I've referenced this before, too. One of the weirdest excuses of the left uses to say that we shouldn't be involved is that they are drugs. They are going somewhere where they're going to hurt people, but it might not be here in the United States. It might sort of come through the U.S., but it's going to go somewhere else. And so that means we should be okay with it. I'm not even saying I believe that narrative. It's just such a weird way to try to win an argument, almost a desperate way to win an argument to me that seems to be the kind of thing they'd like. if their team were the ones doing it. I also want to play this. This is audio of Trump being asked a question about a boat that was seized and Venezuelan oil that was seized earlier this month. He is unapologetic in saying, we're keeping that. Speaking of Venezuela, oil, what are we going to do with the oil that we have? Going to do with what? The oil that has been seized. The United States seized 1.9 million barrels of oil on December 10th. We're going to keep it. Where's it? Are we going to sell it or put in the strategic? Maybe we'll sell it. Maybe we'll keep it. Maybe we'll use it in the strategic reserves. We're keeping it. We're keeping the ships also. We're keeping them. There are, and you should shut up about this. My favorite is the fact that the left thinks these are traps. Both sides of the political aisle try to set traps for each other, whatever they might be. Very often it's identity politics that winds up being the trigger point on the left to get some sort of they think trap where they've made someone sound like a racist or a sexist. according to them. And I think that's kind of annoying and ridiculous that they do. But these are traps. And oftentimes Trump will barrel right over whatever the trap is that the left thinks it's setting. And a lot of people think it's great. They think it's wonderful to hear that version of an answer to that kind of a question. I think that's pretty awesome. And by the way, I will reference this too just quickly. And Kendall and Casey, they have a promo running. They're going to talk about it more on their show.

Trump is being covered a lot in a lot of news places for a dip in poll numbers. But if you compare it to other presidents, a lot of other presidents also see a dip like this at this time of the year in their polling. And for whatever reason, the left never admits it when it's their side. I think to the rights credit, to conservatives credit, they're willing to talk about these things. And actually, you know what? Okay, one last thing I want to say. I had a different topic plan, but I won't do it. And this is hopefully giving a pat on the back to people like Kendall and Casey or anyone else that's willing to discuss topics if it's their side and they don't think it makes them look good per se. All that infighting that happened at America Fest, at Amfest, where people are now talking about how, you know, Tucker Carlson said one thing and Ben Shapiro said something else. And then the vice president took the stage and said, let's not fight each other. Let's all find a way to coexist. The thing I love most about that. is that it's non-existent as an idea on the left to oppose each other. But on the right, it's welcome. On the right, you can do it at one of the biggest fundraising events in the country for conservatives. And it shows the fact that we're not a monolith. that people within this side of the aisle, and certainly if they're taking pot shots at each other and maybe Ben Shapiro or whoever thinks that they're a little bit more important than they really are in our society. And that's part of the reason that they all fight each other the way they do. I like the existence of that. I liked it when it took conservatives forever to pick the Speaker of the House. I thought that was a good thing. And they all fought with each other and things got messy because it shows people who are actually willing to stand to whatever their values are and still consider themselves part of that side of the political aisle as opposed to the opposite, which is thinking you need a hive mind opinion on everything and the one person who stands on the outside, whether it's the John Fetterman's of the world and the world of Democrats, these people are actually attacked. These people are told they're horrible and terrible for the things they're saying. And I think that's kind of interesting. The right, once again, essentially demonstrating it's way more tolerant than the woke left. All right. I'll take a quick break. A lot more. Craig Susan Collins filling in. Tony Kat's the Morning News, 93 WIBC. Tony Katz, the morning news, 93 WIBC. My name is Craig Susan Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Matt and Carl hanging out as they do every single morning on this show. The Powerball is like $1.7 billion. And it's going to be drawn on Christmas Eve, I believe. So tomorrow night. I think two things are likely to happen. One, nobody's likely to win. And two, somebody's buying somebody else a Powerball ticket as a Christmas present. Now, granted, you'd have to do this as something you give away on Christmas Eve, if the drawings on Christmas Eve, because to give it on Christmas Day is going to be terrible. It's a losing ticket. Or if nobody wins on Wednesday, maybe some people are going to rush out and buy more tickets to give them on Christmas Day. Here's my question, if you were to gift a ticket to someone else and they won, how much money do you want? You want all the money, half the money, what are you thinking? It's like the old Scratcher question.

Because we always had somebody in the family who would give away a bunch of lottery scratcher tickets on Christmas Eve or on Christmas Day in the, you know, stocking. And the funniest part is they'd always ask you to scratch them in front of them. They wanted to see if you want anything. And I think partly because the giver wanted to know if they gave too much. But what do we think of this topic? Well, I can tell you this. If I get nothing, I'm going to feel horrible for the rest of my life for gifting that ticket. So I've got to get something out of this. I want at least maybe, I mean, it's the power ball. I don't think 100K is asking too much here. Not even at all. Not with $1.7 billion. Come on. Yeah. So roll me a check for $100K and we'll be good. You know, it's easy. Or even less, $50,000, $10,000. No, no. Let's not go that way. Let's get a percentage, man. Let's throw a percent out there. Let's not even make it $100,000. thousand let's go like five percent of the winnings just because i bought the ticket and then i gifted it to you but you're right i love the thing you said you're going to regret giving that ticket forever because the answer to that is yes no matter who it is you gave it to no matter how much you care about them uh a winning ticket for billions of dollars or at least a billion dollars is the kind of thing you're not going to get over giving so it's the kind of thing you'd fight every christmas from that point on about the fact that you gave them that Like the next time you opened up some gift from them and it's like a toaster. You're like, I gave you a $1.7 billion lottery ticket, you horrible jerk. I don't see how you don't think about it every single day of your life. Every time you pay a bill. Every time you buy a couple of burgers from McDonald's and you check your bank account. I mean, that's the stick in your craw for the rest of your life. And I hate saying it like that because you're supposed to move on from things like that. But that's something especially if you're struggling, man, oh man. That can stick with you for a while. Oh, yeah. Well, no, and it is the way I feel when you get scratch your tickets from somebody and they watch you scratch them. I do feel like in the back of their mind, like, I don't want it to be a big amount of money. I like you. I want you to win something. I don't want it to be nothing. But if you win, you know, $20,000, I'm going to be sad about this. That's the way I felt anyway. Maybe I'm the only one who gets lottery tickets as a Christmas thing or has before. Have you guys ever gotten those as a gift? Yeah. And I don't want to be that guy, the ungrateful guy, but I don't like lottery tickets. I don't like lottery tickets, especially the scratch-off ones. Because I don't like scratching off. And all you went on a lottery ticket is more scratch-off tickets. So you have to go do a gas station, find the gas station that sells a ticket. And scratch off and win more tickets. And that sounds like a rabbit hole. Yeah. Hey, I'm going to ask the question the other way. What if you won the lottery, how much money would you give away to that person that gifted it to you? They're getting nothing. No, I'm just, you'll get nothing like it. I'm kidding. I'd go a percent. I think a percent's okay. You know, like they gave it to me. It's my ticket now. I'm not giving you 50 percent. But I think you throw something that person's way. I think that makes sense.

I'd make him earn it. Ow! Do you want to have a how there? Do you want $10,000 every week for the rest of your life? Well, here's your chores list. Yeah. Yeah. My feet need some massaging. Look at them right there. And then we'll see. That's awesome, dude. Yeah. No, I would be frivolous with it. I know I'd just start giving stuff away. You know, just because. Just because. Yeah. You know, the other thing that's funny about that, this is such a weird, like it will never, ever happen. It's so stupid that my brain even thought of it for a second. But I thought about if I won the lottery, would I tell people on the radio that I do, like here or anywhere else? Would I go the next day and be like, hey, I won the lottery? And I think the answer would be yes. And I think I would then give away a ton of the money to people who were contacting me because I'd also be frivolous with a billion dollars. It would just be too much fun to be like, this was all free. I had none of this before and now I have all of it. Why don't we go ahead and do like a $1,000 giveaway on the radio the day after I win and I'll fund it? I feel like that's the kind of stuff I do, which would be a terrible decision. But nonetheless, a lot of fun along the way. Man, that gets your ratings, give it away $1 every single week. It would, dude. What voting show gives away $1,000 every day on the sevens? Right. No, just whenever I felt like it. If I win a billion dollars, I'll just do it every so often just when I feel like it. I'll make that promise to the WIBC audience. If I win the Powerball, the next time I'm hosting a few people win a thousand bucks. We're also grateful. Thank you. You're welcome. It's an easy. Very generous. It's an easy gift to give right now because I don't have it. In fact, I'm actually having to give my Christmas bonus back to the place I work, but that's another time. That's for another day. We talked about it earlier in the show. One last thing, before I get out of here, I thought this was funny. A bunch of people in Montreal dressed as Santa Claus and elves robbed a grocery store. And when they were caught because that's a crime, you're not allowed to commit it, they said they were just trying to deliver stuff to the needy. because they were dressed as Santa Claus and elves. They thought that would get them out of the problem. They're like, no, it's usually a crime, but if you're dressed like Santa on the holidays and you want to give it away, this is allowed. And apparently the police disagreed with them. Well, I mean, you know, if you're dressed like Santa Claus, you're still in the spirit of Christmas. You can't deny that. Whether you're stealing or not. I mean, seriously, when you look at it, how does Santa Claus get all of his presence to begin with? Yeah. Yeah, he's not making this stuff, all right? He's not going to Macy's like two weeks before ordering on Amazon. You know, you've got to cut the corners a little bit sometimes. You know, Santa's got to get the presents. You didn't know that Santa Claus was a thief. I'm just saying he could have a minor operation that involves getting presents to the North Pole Quaker. Yeah, he's not the thief. The elves are. You don't have to do it yourself, man. you pay the other people you cut all strings in communication you don't let anything lead back to you he's done this for years decades even centuries he knows what he's doing yeah well my favorite part of this is thinking about the brainstorming meeting by the criminals before it they're like wait a minute if we dress like santa is it still a crime and one of the guys is like i don't think so i think that's allowed then especially if we say we're giving it to other people this is fine then and so they go that road you always need a

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