Sunday Bonus Podcast - Prager U- US Counterterrorism Strategy-Dr Sebastian Gorka Explains the Trump Admin Strategy Part 2

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Jihadists under our directorate and then the Antifa left-wing threat. Because sadly, CSIS, the Center for Security in International Studies, it's not a MAGA outfit, okay? That is a Democrat think tank. And they literally just published an extensive report saying, The empirical facts are pretty clear. We may have some right-wing terrorists in America, but left-wing terrorism is the ascendant form of violence. How many left-wing terrorists have tried to kill my boss, President Trump? Look at Steve Scalise, almost killed, shot in the hip by a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer at a baseball. game not far from where we're sitting. Or our friend, my friend, Charlie Kirk, killed live on camera by somebody who likewise was a left-wing terrorist. If we were back in the 1990s and I was the terrorism chief for the president back then, yeah, I'd be concentrating on militias. I'd be looking at right-wing potential terrorists, but we're not in the 1990s. It's 2026. And I have to look at the real threat. The real threat is jihadis, cartels and left-wing violence. Well, let's talk about left-wing violence because if you put Antifa in the same category as a terrorist, and Antifa labels itself as a left-wing advocacy group, are they going to accuse you of targeting the other side? And are they going to turn around if they're once in office? and go after right-wing groups and call all of us right-wingers terrorists as well. How do you justify that? How do you qualify what it actually means to be a terrorist? And how do you actually go after them? What is the consequence from murdering people based on political views? As you said, Charlie Kirk and the attempt on our president multiple times? Look, I can't predict what the Democrat administration will do in the future. I would like them to be bound by one metric. I'd like them not to normalize violence for the purposes of politics. I mean, that's really the definition of terrorism. You know, that hoary old phrase that one man's freedom fighters and another man's terrorist, that's a lie, okay? A freedom fighter is not allowed to murder children. Okay, once you cross that line, once you kill somebody because he's having a debate on a campus, you're not a freedom fighter. Charlie Kirk wasn't oppressing someone. So the line is very simple. Terrorism, I'll tell you now the definition is, is the use of force. or the threat of force for political or religious or ideological purposes, okay? There's one party in this nation which has normalized violence. Don't listen to Sebastian Gawker. Listen to Maxine Waters. Listen to Eric Holder. Listen to Biden himself. What have they said in the last decade? Maxine Waters stood with a microphone on the sidewalk in D.C. eight years ago and said, if you see a member of the Trump cabinet in public, surround them and harass them.

That's a serving member of Congress. Eric Holder, Obama's AG, said what? When they go low, we kick them. We kick them. And then Biden at a presidential podium says what? I'd like to take that Trump behind them and I'd like to beat his face in. Sorry, what? That is the normalization of violence. And if you call somebody a white supremacist or a Nazi or a fascist for 10 years, What do you think is going to happen? Somebody's going to say, well, wow, if he's a white supremac, well, then I better stop him. Yes. That's what one side of the aisle has normalized. As an American, as somebody who chose to be an American, I have this crazy idea. I'd like none of our political parties to normalize violence. Well, the perfect example is they keep accusing the right of being violent, but they have nothing to show for it. So they have to make stuff up. Like now you're hearing the indictments against the SPLC. You're funding the KKK. You have NGOs that have to make up stories of right-wing extremists that are violent and walking around with... tiki torches because they don't actually have any examples so they have to make them up there's a there's a legal phrase for that it's called racketeering right would be a shame if your window was broken in your lovely store wouldn't it right so you're you're actually generating the threat yourself so you can come along and say hey i solved that threat for you it's it's a crime The issue for us was that not only that they docks us and give a general location for where the Prager U building is, but they also networked with organizations that have to do with education. And so the movement SPLC puts Prager U on a hate watch list, good luck getting into schools. So I am so glad that the SPLC now is being exposed. They are the hate group. Totally. The SPLC is the hate group in America. Look, we know this. The attack on the Family Research Council, the individual who went in there with this, I mean, a mental case. He took Chick-fil-A sandwiches and a handgun. By the way, we have to admit that they're not just a mental case. This is evil. Yes. I was, you're right. You know, people have empathy for people who have mental issues. And as do I. And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. If you are using a gun. then to hurt somebody for political or ideological purposes, you're a terrorist. So you're absolutely right. Look, we know what the SPLC is. Look, it's a hate group that has been found to be doing racketeering. The really important thing about all of these entities, and this is, and I'm not going to steal anybody's thunder, because Scott Bessent's team is amazing, what Cash is doing, what Todd Blanche at DOJ is doing. Let me just say this. There are interested parties outside of America who are facilitating entities like this. You look at the marches on Harvard Square, at Columbia, on the streets of Manhattan, from the river to the sea. And you know, it's something very weird. All of their placards are the same.

They're not made at home with a Sharpie. Yeah. Who's printing? Who's paying for all of that? Who is coordinating all of that? So stay tuned for developments on that. angle with regards to those who have interests who are outside of the United States and have interests to undermine the U.S. constitutional order, the Red, Green Alliance, and all those who are related. Stay on this channel. Seb, I want to thank you also for fighting against anti-Semitism. I don't take that for granted. We don't take it lightly. The Jews are oftentimes... the first in the line of the defense? Look, listen to the jihadists. What do the jihadists say? First, we come for the Saturday people, then we come for the Sunday people. Anti-Semitism is the touch paper. It is the indicator. It's the first sign that the counter-Western ideology is in ascendance. And, you know, Andrew Claiband has done an amazing, amazing commentary on all of this. Why do they hate the Jews? Because what do the Jews bring us through Jesus Christ? They bring us Christianity. They brought us what? If you look at the foundations of Judaism, it's the idea that we don't have a capricious bunch of gods hanging around on Mount Olympus. It's good versus evil, right? The idea that God is good comes from Judaism. You've got to destroy that. if you're a secular, anti-American, violent individual or a jihadist. So anti-Semitism, the fight against anti-Semitism, and we've got some amazing people, Rabbi Kaplan, at the State Department, who's our envoy for countering anti-Semitism. If we deal with that, all of us will be safer. Christians, Jews, everyone who wants to be an American, irrespective of what you believe in. If we deal with anti-Semitism, you too will be safer. Absolutely. And, you know, you don't see the communists defending the Jews. You certainly don't see the Islamist defending the Jews. And so when people talk about multipolarity, you ask yourself, which is the great superpower that is not only courageous, that is not only willing to sacrifice. Because the communists and the Islamists are courageous and they're willing to sacrifice. America has something unique. We are moral. We are a moral, godly people. That is why we're willing to sacrifice for morality. It's not just America only. It's morality above everything else. That is why there can't be multipolarity around the world because there will be no morality around the world. There will be no sacrifice for morality around the world. They all know it. We need to know it, too, as Americans. Our finding thought is... were so, so wise. They said you can't have a state religion.

But they knew America doesn't work unless your value system is Christian. You don't have to be a Christian, but unless your value system is Christian, it doesn't work. There has to be a North Star and the fact that we are the only nation that has the word creator in our founding document. Why? We don't have rights unless we understand they come from the fact we're made in the image of our creator. That is why America is different. And let me just quote an orthodox friend of mine. You know who you are, Jeff. who said many moons ago. The greatest nation made by God, Israel. The greatest nation made by man, America. That's our connection. You mentioned the cartels. Yes. Okay. So we have been very worried about fentanyl. There were big scares, even around Halloween, I remember, when our kids were walking out and we didn't know. So how are you handling this issue of, I know that you've designated the cartels as a terrorist organization? I don't know why this didn't happen sooner. I assume this because they have incredible political power and they're not just these tiny little street corner cartels. But how effective has it been since you've actually designated them as terrorists? Are we seeing a decline in the threat of fentanyl? Absolutely. Are we seeing a decline in the threats of the cartels in general? And I would imagine that it's associated also with the borders being more secure. So we have you on one side and Tom Homan on the other side securing the borders and then... pushing back against the cartels and hopefully scaring them. Yeah, so I recommend everybody. Everybody follow Director Cash's FBI Twitter page because he gives the stats, every day the stats, the rampant decrease in fentanyl overdoses, the fact that we've sealed a border, the constant arrests, Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War, the drug boat strikes. Let me just give you another empirical statement. Before I came back into government service, I had my national TV show on Newsmax, and I dedicated a whole episode to the question of the cartels, because I'm an OG Canada tourism guy. I deal with jihadi threats, and I was trying to wrap my head around, hang on, cartels. I know Stephen Miller, he's thinking about this, and he wants to have the present desert. So let's think about this. And I sat down and I did the math, and here's the shocking math that every American should internalize. I added up every killed in action American since the end of World War II. So every soldier, marine, airman, coast guard, sailor who died after World War II in combat. So that's Korea, Vietnam, Panama, grenade, Gulf 1, Gulf 2 and Afghanistan. In 70 years, that number was 103,000. 70 years. Okay. Then I decided to find out how many people are dying because Biden's opened our borders as a result of the, you know, drugs, the cartels are flooding in. And I found the data. It took me a long, I had to go to the CDC website under Biden and went down a rabbit, Warren, like 48 clicks later. And I found the data. Year two of Biden's open border policies.

110,000 Americans died of drug over doses from things like fentanyl, brought across the border by cartels. So. In one year, the cartels killed more Americans than 70 years of combat. That's why we designated them as terrorists. We didn't start the war. They started the war. And President Trump, Stephen Miller, Secretary Mullen, Tom Homan, they're going to finish it along with Pete Hegseth. One of the other things I mentioned to you as you were walking in here was that I don't understand how people like us who know what the world looks like and we know how incredible this country is. I was born here. You chose to come here. My parents chose to come here. Why would you choose any country around the world over the United States of America? Why would you choose to have open borders and allow the entire third world to pour into here? unchecked why would you allow cartels to come here and bring fentanyl you're raising your kids here in this country why would why would they allow Why would they allow for this? I mean, maybe it's a psychological thing. I don't understand. I think it's a combination of two things. You know, having been a teacher for 30 years, I think a large part of it is indoctrination, right? If you can indoctrinate the youth, both Lenin and Hitler said, give me a child for four years and I will own that child for life, right? If you can mold a mind to your own ideology, then you will get. 25% of young Americans don't know what Auschwitz is. That's not an accident. That's a function of educators not doing their jobs. Well, some are believing that the Holocaust never happened, that we never landed on the moon. Don't get me started. And the second thing is beyond the actual direct indoctrination. And again, I'll be very quickly because I'm a PhD in political science. I'm not a psychiatrist, but I do think it's psychological. If you hate yourself, you can't deal with that. So you have to project. So who do you project upon your nation? I'm not bad. America's bad. And it's this projection from the self. to the outside. It's a way to deal with whatever guilt they have and saying, well, you know, for America, neo-colonialist, you know, the white oppression of colored people is genetically coded into America. Well, let me ask you a very simple question. Who do you want to influence the world? You've got three choices. Russia, run by a KGB colonel, the biggest communist dictatorship in the world, China.

with the labor camps or America. I don't think that's a complicated question. So for those who say, oh my gosh, they've got shopping carts in Russia or China is, you know, the streets are clean in China. Yeah, they're clean because when you have an election, there's one party on the ballot. You can go and live there, but I'm not sure you're going to enjoy it as much as... being in the freest, greatest nation the world has ever created. So I think a lot of it sadly is psychiatric. And then you're hearing the other argument about multipolarity, right? That America should actually retreat from the world stage and allow the communists and the Russians, which you can call them whatever you want to call them, to come up onto stage and share it with us because... Because they're good at sharing. Because they love sharing the communists. They love sharing. Multipolarity, the whole Dugan, you know, the Vladimir Putin, the whisper and everything else. Multipolarity, let me be very clear, is a smokescreen for other nations to run the world. That's it. Multipolarity means one thing. America, America is subjected. That's all multipolarity means. It's a cover. Yeah. What else keeps you up at night? What else keeps you up at night? Not much because I have a rock star team of directors in the White House. It's incredible not only to work for the most consequential present of the modern age, but for, you know, the secretary who is also the national security advisor, Marco Rubio. So when you've got, you know, it's really nice, having served in the first administration, this one's very different. How so? How so? How is Trump 2 different from Trump 1? And is he different? No. He changed a little bit, I think, after Butler, but I'm not going to speak to that. You can ask him. We'll have to get you in the Oval and you can ask him. But no, he is, as I said, my father was my role model for courage. but President Trump gives my father a run for his money. You know, I've worn a uniform. I was a weekend warrior. I played at it. But I know, even despite having served, there's no way that I get shot in the head, look at my hand and wouldn't scream, I've been shot or freeze solid. Instead, what does he do? He takes control of the situation, pushes aside his secret service detail, lifts his fist to reassure the world, fight, fight, fight. That's genetic. You don't learn that. That is an example of courage. So as long as that man's behind the rest of the desk, we are doing very, very well. What keeps me concerned is, you know what keeps me concerned? The average American not understanding what America is and thinking they don't have a role to play.

The idea that you're not responsible for the survival of this country blows my mind, not just as an immigrant to this country, but, you know, I've been to Afghanistan. I've been to Africa. I've been to places where my wife and I, we often say, you know, good Lord, are we blessed, even in the hardest of times. Are we blessed to be Americans in America? Just that alone. No matter what's going on in your family, your health, your work, to be Americans in America. And that the average American, not sure they get that. Yeah. It could be lost. So here's the question, what are you doing about it? I mean, President Trump never gives up. I mean, think, they tried to put him into prison for 700 years. They tried to kill him multiple times. Did he ever give up? No, he is indefatigable. In the first administration, when he was tweeting at 4 a.m., people, because they know I'm a social media addict, they'd say, said, you're the guy tweeting for him, right? I said, no, I need to sleep. That's him. I mean, think one last story, if I may. So we had an amazing Friday back in September. Another of my team members had written a very important executive order on hostages because hostages fall under my portfolio. And it was the big day to have the president signed the EO. And we were invited to the Oval to see him sign this EO. And he decided the press should witness this as well. So he lets the jackals into the Oval. And then... I'm standing next to him with our envoy for hostages and my team member who wrote the EO. And as he's signing it with the cameras, you know, live streaming it, he turns to us and says to my colleague and me, tell the world, wow, this is such an amazing executive order. You know, my colleagues go, uh, yes, sir. And she does an amazing job, big day. And then, wow, what a Friday. 90 minutes later, we're back in the Oval with my colleague to provide him a classified briefing on a very important issue. And we thought, oh, that's double whammy. We walked back into our skiff to the rest of the team and we said, yeah, EO, written by our team signed by the president, press conference in front of the world. 90 minutes later, classified briefing for the president. Not too bad for a Friday. Wait. finally get home, crawl into bed with Katie. It's 10.30 at night. Katie turns on the news, and the president is giving a speech hosting a party in the Rose Garden. And we just looked at each other. We just... How? The endurance. You don't want to be on a plane with him. When he flies, transatlantic or whatever, he doesn't sleep. Like, you know, eight hours into the flight, he'll walk. through the plane and you better not be sleeping because he's going to chat with you because he wants to talk to you. It's genetic. It's incredible. Yeah, it probably is. I asked Dennis Prager, you know, people get upset about President Trump's tweets all the time. And I said, Dennis, do you think the ex post are a liability for President Trump or is it a good thing? Because we get to know, we get to know him, right? He's not a teleprompter politician, which is exactly what people wanted. And so Dennis Prager says, well,

Maybe he should run his tweets by Melania Trump. I was like, speaking of great wise. A wise man. Exactly. So I'd love to just chat with you a little bit about Katie Gorka because I love her. And I don't know how you found this incredible woman, but I love it when there are these power couples who do good. So how did you meet Katie? That's quite a story. I was working. So as I said, I grew up as a child of Hungarian refugees. When communism fell and I spoke Hungarian and I was working in national security, I was offered a job in the Hungarian Ministry of Defense in the first freely elected conservative government. So I moved to Hungary. And soon, very soon there was a conference, an American-run conference in the country next door in Romania. And I was one of the Hungarian delegates. And there's this beautiful lady from New York who's one of the American delegates. It's a massive conference of young professionals. We were at this very socialist, you know, massive U-shaped table of 75 people. And she has a little jet lag on the first day. And she's going to get really angry if I tell this story. She slept in, and she missed the first day of the conference. I love her so much. And she walks into this completely Chowcesterscu-esque post-communist meeting room. And there's one chair left. and it's next to me. And she sits down and I slid my coffee over to her and I sealed the deal. And that was it. She didn't know I didn't like coffee, but, you know, she thought that was, you know, and it was love at first sight. I love it. I love it. I love also hearing about courageous men who know how to pick up on a woman. We need more young men to know how to do that. I think it will solve so many of our problems. Get off your phones and stop. Please, I just have one request to the world as a head of counterterrorism. I know this is weird. Stop using dating apps. When I see beautiful people of my children's age and I find out they're using dating apps, it blows my mind. Talk to people. You see a pretty woman, you see a handsome guy. Go up and talk to them. Please. And by the way, as a civilization. As a woman, I would say, it's okay to give a woman a compliment. You don't know what to say. Just say something nice and not weird about something they're wearing. It's strange, but you know what? Women like that. Yes, women do like getting compliments. Don't listen to what you're looking. Yes. It's, they do like it, I've been told. Yeah, it's one of the main reasons why I think before you go to college, you need to travel the world. Yes, because you understand what, you know what socialism is, you know what communism is. You know how amazing the United States of America is it will undo the damage of what you learned in the education system. How is it that immigrants love America more than Americans do? It is not normal. It must be the reason of this sciopping that we're seeing within our schools and on social media. So the best thing you could do for your kids before they go to college is have them travel the world, have them ask a woman out if they're a boy or a man, and teach them what the alternative is. The alternative to the United States being strong and in a leadership place is a world going dark. Truly. Correct. Okay, so you know the team at Prager, you want to know which cigar you're smoking right now. Oh, okay. So my favorite cigar, which I will never buy until Cuba Falls, is the Monty number two, best cigar in the world. And then my go-to, because I, you know, I just love the oliva. The Melanio Oliva is a superb cigar. But beyond that, I need to say just one thing on the record, one of my greatest achievements in life, is not drafting the presence kind of terrorism strategy. That's one of them.

But convincing Dennis Prager that the straight guillotine cut is the way to smoke a cigar and not the V cut. When we met, many moons ago, he said, it's got to be the V cut. He said, Dennis, you're very wrong. He admitted to me last year, Sebastian, straight guillotine cut. Big success. Seb Gorka. Can I say one more thing? Yes. Dennis, we love you and we miss you. Yeah. Thank you. Of course. Thank you. God bless you. Thank you for everything you do. And we are watching and we're sleeping better at night knowing that you're there protecting us. Well, when I got the president nominated me on his true social, it's funny, I got two messages. People used to text me after that said, either congratulations or I feel safer. Those are the two messages I got. Absolutely. We appreciate that. Thank you. If you like the Michael Bari Weiss Show and podcast, please tell one friend. And if you're so inclined, write a nice review of our podcast. Comments, suggestions, questions, and interest in being a corporate sponsor and partner can be communicated directly to the show at our email address, Michael at Michaelberryshow.com, or simply by clicking on our website, Michaelberryshow.com. The Michael Bari Weiss Show and podcast is produced by Ramon Robles, the King of Ding. Executive producer is Chad Nakanishi. Jim Mud is the creative director. Voices, jingles, tomfoolery, and shenanigans are provided by Chance McLean. Director of Research is Sandy Peterson. Emily Bull is our assistant. listener and superfan contributions are appreciated and often incorporated into our production where possible we give credit where not we take all the credit for ourselves god bless the memory of rush limbaugh long live elvis be a simple man like leonard skinner told you and god bless america finally If you know a veteran suffering from PTSD, call Camp Hope at 877-717 PTSD, and a combat veteran will answer the phone to provide free counseling. Our little podcast is the podcast that could, the little engine that could. You know, when we started, it was just a simple rebroadcast of our show. and they would take it over and put it on this new podcast platform. I didn't think anything of it. Before long, we started hearing from people all over the country where we don't air on the radio in the town where they are. And I would say, well, how are you hearing us? Did you find us online? And they say, no, I was on a podcast, or as happens for more than anything else. Somebody sent me an email and say, hey, check out this podcast. He's from Houston, talks a lot about Texas, but talks about national stuff, and I think you'll like him. And that's how our little podcast grew to be one of the top in the country. It's pretty cool. And so we have show sponsors on the radio. We have show sponsors on the podcast. One of them's a good buddy of mine. His name is Ray Breyers, and he owns The Pipeyard Inc. And what he does on his cell phone is people call and go, hey, I got a 118 mile pipeline going through Louisiana into Mississippi.

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