Horseshoes and Hand Grenades (After Show) 1-27-26

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Get ready to strap in. It's going to be a heck of a ride. It's like drinking from a fire hose. Never a dull moment, but yes, you'll hear the stories you won't hear anywhere else, and we appreciate you being here with us for them today. I'm Justin Barclay. Yeah, welcome in to the after show, the show after the show, like I said. Never a dull moment, never enough time to get to everything in our full radio show. It's the fastest hour on radio. That's why we started this. It's called the After Show. It is the show after the show. And we are flying full speed ahead. Speaking of Minneapolis in Minnesota and all the details and updates, you know, the guy running for governor there in Minneapolis needs your help. Mike Lindell, my pillow. He's a patriot. He's been fighting the good fight for years now. And Mike could use you in the fight right alongside him. You can help. Mypillow.com slash Justin. My store.com slash Justin. I get the winter super sale right now. And the slippers, which I love. I've been wearing them quite a bit often. Just because it's just cold. Wearing those slippers. We're in a mat around the house. Boy, I love them. 3998 for a pair of slippers from my pillow right now. And they are very comfortable at fur inside, leather on the outside. I mean, there's like moccasins. These slippers, you could really, they got a nice, like. rubber salt to them on the bottom. I mean, you can wear them out and about if you wanted to, I guess. It's not necessarily my style, but, I mean, you want to walk down the dog down the road, I guess you could. You go to the mailbox and grab your mail if you wanted to as well. You could wear it the grocery store. I've seen a lot worse at Walmart. I just put it that way. Not at Meyer. Meyer is much for upscale. Tom Homan on his way, just say this, Justin, just make sure you use promo code Justin, my pillow, my store.com slash Justin. Tom Homan on his way right now to Minneapolis. And like I said, this is a guy they can't mess around with. One of the things Holman is about to put into place, and by the way, I think what we saw take place in Minneapolis. The old switcheroo, I think, might have been part of the Trump plan. And I don't think he wanted to see people hurt. I don't think he wanted to see people killed, but I think he did want to see Tom Homan in the way that it's all finally working out now. By the way, this guy... There are those in the immigrants' rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are illegally with legal status or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until... we have better loss. And often this argument is framed in moral terms. Why should we punish people who are just trying to earn a living? I recognize the sense of compassion that drives this argument. But I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. Oh. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally, that there will be no repercussions for such a decision. And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. I don't know who that guy is, but boy, I agree with him. He's right. Could be a problem. Could be a real problem. Speaking of it, have you ever seen the video, have you ever seen the video where apparently Obama?

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I don't know. Maybe it's not video. Maybe I think it was just a picture. But Obama gave Holman the, what medal was it? The, some sort of, was this some sort of medal. Was this the Presidential Medal of Freedom? What was it? He gave home, this is not a fake picture. This is not AI. He gave Holman an award. And I see if I could find the full context in the video so you can see it. But he gave home an award a few years back. So now, I mean, you know, Democrats don't be complaining about this guy. And he means business. Trust me, I can tell you that much. Even complain about this guy. And he's got Obama all over him. It's going to be interesting. How was the secretary prepared to help him fully make that pivot? Yeah, absolutely, Dana. And I think... Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hang on. Let me give you this. In 2012, Obama deported 409,000 people. In 2025, Trump deported 290,000 people. Barack Obama's ICE chief, that was Tom Homan at the time, received an award for the 920,000 removals that they did. That is the difference. That is the difference. So when you hear folks say, well, ICE, ISIS Gestapo. Just remember, they were fine with it. They were fine with it under Obama. The president and secretary they had. at-length discussions. I can't get into those specifics, but Secretary Kristi Noem will continue to oversee, of course, the Department of Homeland Security, and she's very happy that Tom Homan, who is a great asset to the president, has a great depth of experience and insight that he will be overseeing Minneapolis. Secretary Kristi Noem has also been overseeing FEMA. She's been living there for three days during this storm, as well as U.S. Coast Guard, TSA Secret Service. So her portfolio It is really huge, and she'll continue with CBP. That's Trisha McLaughlin. She's the assistant. DHS there to Kristi Noem and the secretary there. Here's Karoline Leavitt, by the way. Just 100% knocking it out of part yesterday. This is a Washington Post headline from nine years ago, 2016. Meet the man the White House has honored for deporting illegal immigrants. And I would remind everyone in this room that it was former president Barack Hussein Obama. There's a lot of talking about 40 and 5D chess and all of that. And I don't know that this is it, but boy, this is a move. This is a move in it and see coming. He awarded a medal to Mr. Tom Homan. So he's obviously very qualified. He has the full trust and faith of the president. He will continue to have these meetings in the hopes that we ICE and local law enforcement can cooperate and work together to have successful immigration enforcement as we've seen in almost every other state across the country. Well, that would be nice. That would certainly be nice, wouldn't it? Man, oh man.

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So we are starting to hear and see some of that stuff. We are starting to hear and see some of these things reported, and we're going to get more now. Anyway, there is, oh, we got anti-A, oh, this is beautiful, an anti-ice learning manual from one of the state reps there in Minnesota. Ice watch. Yeah, you see the whistles, all this other. This is all coordinated, folks. What you're watching is an insurgia. This is a, this is a planned, sort of a military style intelligence. We've seen this before. And I hope that the cleanup that we saw take place last night or at least began. I hope that it holds. I want to read you something because I think this was fascinating. The thing that this guy had written yesterday, I just kind of blown away. That's a little long. I don't know if I'd be able to get through the whole thing. But I thought it was really fascinating what this guy had to say. Pull this out. Oh, first, let's do this. I forgot all about this one. Here comes a dispatch call from inside the Signal group. We were talking about Signal earlier on the program. Listen to this. This is clearly a coordinated infrastructure, and we'd like for the feds to take a crack at trying to get rid of this infrastructure the way that they approach the mob or other, or cartels or other terrorist networks, right? Absolutely, 100%. And again, they're still doing it. They're still doing it. Wait, you want to see something real cool real quick? Please, real fast. All right, real fast. This is dispatch. I just switched M3 was driving. I just dropped him off, and I am in the North Loop commuting back to Hawthorne shortly. Okay, thank you. Last person I want to check in with is Maria R. Can you tell me where you're at? What's going on? Wow. That's live dispatch call. They're coordinating inside that signal out. Again, all distraction from the fraud. Yeah, you're right, Rhonda, I guarantee. But it's really about more. I think there's more underway. It is a distraction from the fraud. But the people that are being utilized right now in the programs away that they're doing this, I think there's more to it. It's even more sinister and I think much more concerning. Eric Schwamm writes on X, as a former Special Forces warrant officer with multiple rotations, Running counterinsurgency operations, both hunting insurgents and trying to separate them from the sympathetic populations. I've seen organized resistance up close from Anbar to Hellman. The pattern is familiar. Spotters, cutouts, dead drops, or modern equivalents. Discipline calms, role specialization, and a willingness to absorb casualties while bleeding the stronger forces slowly. What's unfolding in Minneapolis right now is in a protest. It's low-level insurgency infrastructure built by people who've clearly studied the playbook. Signal groups at 1,000-member cap per zone. Dedicated roles, mobile chasers, plate checkers, logging vehicle data into shared databases, 24-7 dispatch nodes, vectoring assets, salute-style reporting.

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Size, activity, location, unit, time, equipment. That's salute. On suspected federal vehicles, daily chat rotations, and timed deletions to frustrate forensic recovery. Vetting processes for new joiners. Mutual aid from sympathetic locals. Teachers providing cover, possible PD tip-offs on license plate lookups. We now know that was happening. I told you early in the full show. Home-based coordination points. Rapid escalation from observation to physical obstruction or worse. This isn't spontaneous outrage. This is C2, command and control, with redundancy. OPSEC hygiene, and task organization that would make an SF special forces. Team Sergeant nod in recognition. Replace ICE agents with occupying coalition forces. And the structure maps almost one to one to early stage urban cells we hunted in the mid-2000s. Folks, I'm telling you what you're watching is domestic terrorism. It is domestic terrorism. And I'm warning because I think that's clear we ought to be aware. I'm warning that what we're watching, if we don't pray about this, if we don't fully take it as seriously as we should, I think what we're watching is the early stages of something that these people have been hoping and praying for for a long time. For a long time.

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In fact, I can show you more. This is another graphic that shows the level of deportations, and particularly, if you think about what's going on in Minnesota right now. In fact, Elon Musk posts, they must be hiding something very big in Minnesota to send their foot soldiers there from all over the country. Arthur McWaters had originally posted, he shared it over on X. Let me get this straight. One, prior administrations deported millions of people and riots were basically non-existent. Two, the moment Trump took office a coordinated campaign by politicians' legacy media directly called for resistance to ICE. Three, once riots happen and people... Or die, he says. That's probably dead. The spotlight shifts to stopping deportations and defunding ICE. If this was such a crime against humanity, why did no one riot in 2024? The intention behind the unrest is not empathy. Empathy is being manufactured on false grounds to achieve political aims. And people are getting hurt. And you can see the immigration-related demonstrations by week and how small they are there at the bottom and where they jump. That is the moment Trump takes office. Others on X-Sing, we simply cannot validate a mob veto of federal immigration law. That can't happen. It doesn't matter what argument someone uses to reach that conclusion because the conclusion is unacceptable. Another here, Brent Sherer on withdrawing at any level from Minneapolis and sending the message that you can just chase off the feds if you set up an intricate interference campaign would be by far the dumbest thing to do. And by the way, I agree. Brent is the editor-in-chief at DeRil Daily Wire, it looks like. I agree. I don't think we should cave.

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I really don't think it is. It is horrific what is what is playing out right now. It doesn't seem as though. That's what we're going to see. I think what you're watching right now has to come at a moment by moment case-to-case basis. We saw action taking place with police in Minneapolis and Minnesota. We saw them working behind the scenes, at least it looks like, last night to clear some of those folks in those areas. Now, these are people out on the streets. The stuff that's happening behind the scenes, I don't know. Again, it might drive some of this further underground. But at least people won't get hurt and killed because they won't be out on the streets. That's the major issue, I think, that they're trying to deal with in both sides. Hopefully, in recognizing the weight of the moment, how much it matters, and hopefully walls and fry aren't as crazy as they seem like on the surface. But these people, there are so many of them. It's true. There are so many that want. this thing to happen. They want it to pop off. They really do. And it is, it is just, it's sickening to think about. So what is happening, I told you it's to find out error, right? What is happening with all of this? on of this fraud. Food stamp fraud specifically. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. makes the case that they're tracking it all down. I mean, it's not a federal cut the people. or committing fraud are stealing for the system, and they're stealing from the poorest people, the people who need that, for whom those programs were denied, or were designed. And in cutting ways fraud and abuse, we are going to have more money left for the people for which the program was designed and intended. I mean, it's not... It's... It's a point I've been making the whole time is when you got people going in and fraudulently ripping off the government in these cases, these scenarios, the people who need these things the most aren't getting them. You're ripping those people off. That's what's happening. So when Ilhan Omar builds a winery or they've got a fake daycare, think about who's really getting hurt. The people who need that the most, that money the most, whatever grant, whatever the thing that they're pulling out, and you talk about millions upon millions and now billions, that's what matters most. Will there be a governor shutdown, a government shutdown later on this week? John Fetterman, the only Democrat seems to have his head on straight, which is wild considering everything he's been through, says he's not going to vote for that. Will Democrats now have a government shutdown and try and defund ICE, and would you support that?

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Well, for me, I think maybe your viewers remember that I was one of the Democrats that led to push back about the government shut down last year. And for about 45 days, they kept things shut down. And if the Democrats vote... to shut it down. Now our entire military won't be paid again. I can't ever support that. I absolutely hope we can engage, I absolutely hope we can engage in a debate and make some of the kinds of common sense reforms on ice and make it more safe, more humane, and more effective and just focus exclusively on the criminals. I hope that's possible. But for me, I remain to be one Democrat at least that refuses to shut our government down. If this happens, our military won't be paid because the significant part of our government would shut down again. You know, I am not sure about a shutdown. It's really interesting because there's so much else in the news. We haven't heard a lot of talk about it. Normally you would. I really don't think you can avoid it. I think there are folks on the left that are so whacked out that they're going to be demanding it. And I think some of the folks on the left, particularly in the Senate, are going to cause that issue to come to a head again. And how do you deal with that? It's again, we're going to get a little closer to it this weekend. We'll have more details as we get closer to it just to see what's out there. But seeing John Fetterman, again, is the voice of reason. About a year or two back wouldn't have been on my bingo card. That's for sure. What was? MSNBC and what they've been, though, this is... This is reprehensible. I've seen this floating around the internet, but look at this. This time it was 37-year-old Alex Preti, an ICU nurse who cared for veterans. Donald Trump and his cabinet, his administration, are demanding once again that you not believe your eyes and ears. The whole pointing of, you know, the innocence of the individual involved in this situation. By the way, did you know that they shared?

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An AI enhanced photo. That photo. Apparently it's not a real photo. It's an AI enhanced photo, the one that they were showing. I mean, this is how bad the propaganda gets these days. That's not real. Well, if that's not real, what are you talking about? What is real? I mean, it kind of looks like what the guy looked like. No, that's not what the guy looked like. You would wonder, like, this kind of people they are, why would they do that? Look at the, look at the photos. Whoa. You know, I don't want to talk about the dead, but it goes from sort of a geeky-looking... You know, this is wrong with the guy, but he goes from sort of a geeky-looking nerdy sort of guy to like, sort of like, you know, McDreamy or whatever it was on a Grace Anatomy on the right. The guy's a little more handsome there. They did that on purpose. It's an altered photo. It's not real. Why are they showing fake photos on the news of people? It's really strange. And speaking of fake photos, have you seen there's an AI photo where they show, and they, one of the officers, it's an angle where they're showing like the gun. They're like one of the ice officers is shooting pretty with the gun. But one of the officers in the photo, it's clearly AI because it's not real. One of the officers in the photo, here it is.

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Apparently his head's cut out. I just make, you can't. You can't make this up. Here's the picture that I'm talking about. I don't know if you've seen this one yet. This is why you have to be so careful about what you share and what you look at because you may even think. It may be something that supports your opinion and your view and your point and all that. You may think you're showing the right thing, but this is how good it's gotten. This is how good AI has. This photo with this ICE agent right here, holding the gun at this guy, Freddy's back, his head here. But this guy has no head. It's an AI photo. And I think you're going to see more and more and more of that as the days go on because we just don't know. And in the heat of it, I think that's why that 24-hour rule needs to probably get a little bit more adhered to. A woman struck by less than lethal, well, she wasn't struck. This is a wrong headline too, apparently from what I saw. Let me just fact check it because this woman is writing she's an emergency med physician, 25-year science journalist. Let's just fact-check what she's talking about because I've seen this. I've seen a different outlook on this.

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The story that I originally saw is this woman picked up a flash bang grenade and was going to try and throw it back at ICE agents and lost part of her hand. She had some serious injury to it. And I'm not getting that. Now, she's writing that this is very vague. A woman struck by less than lethal munitions sustaining a serious injury to her hand. That's what she's writing here. Now, hang out. Let me mute it because I don't know if there's any. I don't know if there's any language to death. But if that's the case, and she did actually. And again, I'm just telling you about AI and everything else. So who knows? I couldn't get the fact check on here from Grock to figure it out. It's kind of graphic. Apparently, she was part of the protest and the story I saw. had her picking up the flashbang and then trying to throw it back on ice. Let's see if we can fact check it here together. Hang on.

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From multiple reports, eyewitness accounts, videos, and reports circulating on X, and elsewhere, a woman at a protest and riot in Minneapolis related to clashes of federal agents on these. She grabbed an active flashbang grade that had been deployed. She attempted to pick it up, likely to throw it back, and it detonated in or near her hand shortly after, severely injuring her. But as you can see... In the photo that shared over on X, this woman says a woman was struck by less than lethal munitions. But she struck by it because she picked it up. So you got to watch all of this stuff. And she maybe even she doesn't, you know, isn't meaning to, you know, mislead people. But, you know, like when you leave things out, it, it makes a big, I just. It makes a big difference. Here's a leftist woman on ice saying, hey, if they're going to kill us anyway, we should hide in the trees and ambush them. This woman. Who I don't know. She's hiding very well anywhere making those claims. Hey, so they're going to kill us anyway. So I think maybe we should just mob them. If you comply, they're going to shoot you. If you try to leave, they're going to shoot you. Mob them. Like full... American Revolution, like hiding in trees. I don't know. I don't know. You don't know. And you do not want to do that. And you do not want to encourage other people to do that because you will not like what you find out. Talk about fool around and find out. That's the epitome of it there. They've lost their minds so much so. Wow. Remember this guy? Oh, shoot, you didn't get to hear all that, did you? Let me play it again for you. Hey, so they're going to kill us anyway. So I think maybe we should just mob them. If you comply, they're going to shoot you. If you try to leave, they're going to shoot you. Mob them. Like that... Like full American Revolution, like hiding in trees. I don't know. What could go wrong? Hey, so they're going to kill us anyway. So I think maybe we should just mob them. That's the epitome of find out. Full around and find out. There it is. Okay. Speaking of which, here's the guy the other day that was all, I think he's a cross-dressing. There's a lot to this guy, I think I saw the other day. And he was threatening people and he said we should start the revolution. We start the Civil War right now. Apparently he's on the run.

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He's begging for lawyers at this point. The Alex Pready murder calling for direct action, calling for boots on the ground, calling for someone to stand against these murderers was deemed inciting violence. Yeah, I can't take any more of this guy. Well, it was. It wasn't deemed. It was. When you're telling people to go out into the streets and do these things, it's not deemed something. It is something. Antifa Captain Kyle calling for the killing of ICE agents and organizing, stalking them, now on the run saying he needs a lawyer. I'm basically on the run now is what the guy says. This again. is to find out era. I just don't, folks, you can't make this make sense. None of these, none of these people. You can't really, and again, it would be funny if it weren't so damn serious. And these people are being, they're being pulled around by the nose rings in their nose.

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praying for those folks and of course for cooler heads to prevail during it all I got more we just didn't have time to get to it all today maybe we'll break some more down tomorrow I got some good news I want to share with you as well well stories again that they probably deserve a little more positivity a little more focus a little more light of the day showing on them But stick with us. If you haven't, jump in with us over on the after the after show, which we call the after party, the remnant hanging out today in the VIP, Justin Barkley.com slash VIP. You can come on over and hang out with us on locals. Get a chance to ask me anything. We'll give you a chance to do that and have a blast while we're at it. Healthwithjustin.com. We are on the way, on the fight. And this week, Lizzie and I start our next phase. Join us, Healthwithjustin.com. Take your health back one step at time. Maha starts with you. It starts with me and we can get there together. God bless.