JR Morning ~ April 27, 2026 ~ Full Show

605 here on a Monday. Good to have you. You know, it's funny on Saturday, we pawned the kids off on my parents. Okay. And we're moving. So we're packing up, right? We're packing the house. What, first of all, what a terrible process. But, you know, you just, the stuff that you gather over all the years, man, you find out what it is when you've got to move in. Well, it's funny, too, because my wife and I, when we, this is our first house that we're moving out of. When we bought our house and when we moved in, she was pregnant with Jake. Okay. So Jake will be eight in June. Wow. Right. So when we moved in, we're like, Wow, look at all this space. We got all this. We move from a one-bedroom apartment, right? We're like, oh, we're living in luxury here. And then now I'm like, I can't breathe in this place. So we're packing up. I have a couple drinks. We're having a nice time. Okay. Right? And then all of a sudden, I see things go absolutely haywire in Washington, D.C. Yes. And, and. This is, was anticipated because Donald Trump was going to be at the White House Correspondents dinner for the first time as a sitting president. So there was some excitement. Sure. The fact that he was there in the first place. Right. Because he's boycotted it in the past. Exactly. And then we come to find out that a, a shooter open fire in the. In the hotel. It wasn't in the ballroom. He never made it to the ballroom. But 31-year-old Cole Allen from California, according to reports and authorities, took the Amtrak. Yes. From California to Chicago and then into Washington, D.C. He checked in Friday night. And he, as a result, he took out his shotgun they had with him. And if you've seen the videos that have been circulating on social media, I've seen it on some of the news stations. Fox News is actually showing it right now. As he ran through that security checkpoint, looked like that's when he shot one of the Secret Service agents in the bulletproof vest. He's okay. Everything sounds like he's going to be fine. He's fine. But he came in running hot. He was running fast through the ballroom and then they were able to apprehend him just a couple of seconds later. Yeah. But it reopened this wound that we have here in our country of the dialogue that is that is potentially prompting people. to take some sort of action in his manifesto. He wrote that, by the way, he sent this manifesto to his family right before. Right before he ended up taking his action. I don't think he felt he was coming back. It sounds like that's what it sounds like to me. And he thanks to my family for your support over the years. I love you. Friends, thank you. Co-workers, thank you, yada, yada. But he, one of the things he wrote is I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile rapist and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.

Now, he didn't explicitly say Donald Trump. He talked about targeting Trump administration officials and certainly all the way up at the top. Sure. And he was prioritizing from the top down, which I would assume Donald Trump would be the top. Well, Donald Trump was on 60 minutes yesterday with Nora O'Donnell and she asked him about that particular portion of his manifesto. And here's what the president had to say. Yeah, he did write that. I'm not a rapist. I didn't rape anybody. I'm not a pedophile. Excuse me. Excuse me. I'm not a pedophile. You read that crap from some sick person. I got associated with stuff that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated. Your friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, let's say, Epstein or other things. So obviously he felt like it was... directed at him that line, which it was. Of course, I mean, come on, come on. Let's not beat around the book. Exactly. Oh, do you think he was talking about you? Yeah, of course he was talking about you. Because what we've heard from Democratic politicians for the better part of, I don't know, a decade is this guy's a bad guy, he's a dictator, he's a Nazi, he's a pedophile, he's a rapist, all of these things. And it's not a surprise that when somebody gets radicalized by this talk and, you know, this horrible person that he is, they. When they're going to do something like this, they cite it. Of course. Almost verbatim. Yes. Yes. It was a scary moment because the questions of security are also brought back up. Absolutely. And was this secured enough? It seemed pretty soft at the time. And I think, you know, sometimes, you know, you've done this, this White House correspondent's dinner year after year after year of the year. And sometimes, you know, you may just feel, you know, a little lax a little bit. Like this is just routine and it's no big deal. But, you know, you have very important people. And I think there ought to be talked to, though, Chris, about the people of succession that are there. Maybe everybody who's in succession of the president shouldn't be. at these events like that because something like that happens and you know there's a chance that a lot of people could be taken out, the people who are in the succession of the president, if something happens to it. Yeah, certainly. And we're going to continue to talk about this throughout the morning because this event does raise a lot of questions. The NACP Detroit branch held its annual fight for Freedom Fund dinner last night at the Huntington Place in downtown Detroit in the event. One of the nation's largest civil rights gatherings featured Hakeem Jeffries as keynote speaker who addressed national and global challenges during what organizer called a critical moment.

in the country. He also brought up the shooting that took place in D.C. Saturday at the White House Correspondence Dinner. Let me first thank the men and women of law enforcement who helped keep everyone safe at the White House correspondence dinner yesterday. And I want to thank the men and women of law enforcement who are helping to keep all of us safe at the Detroit NAACP dinner here today. Political violence is never the answer. Now, a number of Michigan leaders were also in attendance, including Mayor Mary Sheffield, and Governor Gretchen Whitmer, U.S. Senator Gary Peters, and Elissa Slotkin. The evening included several honors with awards presented to community leaders and activists as well as a lifetime achievement award to civil rights icon Ruby Bridges, who integrated the public school system in Louisiana at the age of six. I guess my problem with Hakeem Jeffries points there are, of course, nobody wants political violence, but if you push people far enough, if the rhetoric is there, people are going to respond to that rhetoric. And so, again, fascinating. way to phrase it now. It's easy to say it now. Thanks, law enforcement. We appreciate it. Yeah, but, you know, let me also say that the rhetoric is on both sides. It's not just one side. I think it's on both sides, and I think they both need to cool it off. Yeah, I think for certain, I think it's different. It's different. Okay. I think when you call somebody a Nazi or the Gestapo's out there, I think it's a different connotation than saying, oh, you know, the Democrats want women to play in or men to play in women's sports. That's crazy. Or the border, right? It's different. All of it needs to be toned down. It does. Certainly. Also, how about the Lions? They wrap up their draft. And they do it in the middle rounds with a couple of Michigan Wolverines. Derek Moore picked coming off the edge. And Jimmy Rolder, a linebacker, gets taken by the Lions as well. Also, Keith Abney, he's a cornerback at Arizona State. He's probably going to be kind of your your... fourth corner, right, coming off. But I was looking a little bit about him. He's a, like, state champion in-line roller skater. Oh, really? I had no idea. So I'm watching this. And it's like, think Olympic speed skating. Yeah, uh-huh. Except on rollerblades. Wow. Yeah, it was really, it was just cool to see. You see these guys like track or field, right? They're like that, you know, weightlifting, things like that. In Keith Abney's case, he's a high-level roller skater. They should be able to move. My, my, I think one of the topics of conversation will be, hey.

instead of other rate payers. You know, the data centers have had lots of opposition. Legal conservation voters came out and, you know, called the smoke and mirrors. So we'll see this rate increase. We'll go before, as it always does, we'll go before the Michigan Public Service Commission. The usual dance is the PSC will hold hearings, and they will knock down that rate increase a little bit. before it goes through. So that process takes months. So we're a ways off from seeing the conclusion to this story. But the data center moratorium promises is certainly a new wrinkle. Mike, the companies that carry passengers to Mackinac Island, boy, they're giving Mackinac Island some hardball. They're playing a little hardball right now, aren't they? Yeah, the negotiations between the company that has bought both of the main ferry lines that go to Mackinac, has been locked in negotiations and a lawsuit with the city of Mackinac, It's gotten a little ugly. The latest is that if they don't get the price increase that they want, they're threatening to halt service to the island in 2027. You know, that's a negotiating ploy, but it's a pretty serious one. You know, they're trying to get leverage in this debate. You know, the city government, you know, calls it coercive. the ferry companies say the city won't negotiate and is it really isn't recognizing their right to to set their own rates it's only in the last several years that the that the that the two main main fairies shepler and arnold came under the the ownership of this hopman family uh florida family that's bought up uh quite a few assets up north um During litigation, the judges told them, you know, this is silly you're fighting over a dollar or two, you know, stop posturing and actually sit down and make a deal. But that hasn't happened yet. So this year, right now, the ferry's fares are 37 to 39 bucks for a basic adult round trip. The city, you know, the city council had voted to freeze rates. That represents a small increase. So. Once again, this is a fight over a couple of dollars on a ferry ride. But, you know, it's kind of a question of whether these ferry owners are a monopoly that is unfairly jacking up prices. Meanwhile, Buddy's Pizza's new CEO says that they've got to fix some of the fundamental issues within the company before they're looking to expand. Yeah, this is kind of a different tack from buddies, which has been owned by private equity firms for the last several years who always were seeking to expand it, take this Detroit favorite and spread it out, open many more locations. And that hasn't always worked out so well. They've gone in, for example, they went into West Michigan and they...

have since closed basically all the locations they open there. The new CEO, his name is Juan Rojas. He was the longtime executive at a chain of wireless stores called Wireless Vision, a pretty substantial chain of stores, who owned by one of the investors in buddies, the local investors who bought it. His message is really that they need to fix the fundamentals before. they can chase growth. And really what that boils down to reading between the lines is get the quality, get quality down and get it consistent. I think people who like buddies have had some complaints with some of the locations over time. So he says that his mission is to make sure, you know, every one of the 19 locations meets the same standard. And then we can talk about, you know, expanding the thing. You know, that's always a key for any chain restaurant is getting that consistency down. So, you know, in the longer term, yeah, he wants buddies to be recognized nationally as is the best Detroit-style pizza, you know, as the inventor of it as well as the best. So we are hoping this hometown favorite can accomplish that. All that more can be found inside Cranes Detroit business. Mike Lee, always appreciate it. Thank you. Have a great week. Thank you, Chris. Yeah, you got it. You know, it's funny going back to our conversation we had with Garrick Rochow, the CEO of Consumers Energy, a few weeks ago. He told us that when these data centers come in, at least for consumers, that they're going to make them pay for the infrastructure. Absolutely. That not only is your bill not going to go up, but these data centers and these companies that are going to be coming into our communities. if they're approved, are going to actually be footing the bill to make the necessary upgrades to the grid so that it can operate. That's part of the deal. Which I like, I don't know that DTE has taken quite that stance. Okay. DTE is saying here that, yeah, we need this rate increase, which we've seen every year. They always propose a rate increase. Sometimes they get turned down, then they have to revise it, things like that. Yeah. $9, though, to your average. DTE energy customer is significant. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's a pretty large increase. Yeah, that's a nice size. But how they're going to continue to tackle this issue is going to be an important one. Now, DTE is saying, well, look, you give us this rate increase and then we're going to stop for two years if we get this facility in Celine built, which is all well and good, something to keep an eye on. We'll continue to do that. More coming up on Chairmore. Well, Representative Shri Thanedar has a new challenger in the race. Yes, right. Detroit's political spotlight shifting back to the national stage as a high-stakes Democratic primary begins to take shape, one that's drawing attention not just locally but nationally with the ongoing Israel-Gaza conflict becoming a key issue in the race. It's setting up a rematch with current Congressman Shri Thanedar. And joining us is Detroit City Councilwoman and now congressional candidate Mary Waters. Counselwoman, good to talk with you this morning. Well, good morning. Good morning to you and your listeners. You know, you're jumping back into the race. You faced Shree back in 2024, got 34% of the vote while being heavily outspent. What did that race teach you and how does it shape how you're running this time? Well, the rates itself taught me to just continue to work harder. Listen, when you have $8 to $10 million spent against you,

Well, that teaches you a lot. I mean, it really does. And so I will continue to work harder. I will continue to fight harder on behalf of Michiganders, on behalf of Detroiters, because that is absolutely what is necessary. So don't think that you can spend $8 to $10 million against me and just for me to walk away. No, I'm coming back. I'm going to fight even harder. When did you decide that this was the race to get back into and then have you been behind the scenes, raising money to help combat the money that will likely be spent against you? I decided to get back into this race right after the last race, frankly. Okay. So you were a late entry here. You turned all your signatures in, but you had already made that decision. I made that decision a long time ago. I did. And for those who were close enough to me, for those who cared enough to ask me, they knew that I was running again because I was honest with them. And so, and there were others who just didn't care. I thought I would wait for the right time. I've been busy also handling the city's business, of course, being the number one vote getter last year. I have been busy. We've been working on the budget. I didn't want to do anything to interfere with those kinds of things. Now I'm ready, and I want Detroiters and Wayne County to know that I'm officially in the race. Councilwoman, you made Gaza a central issue in the last campaign. You stand by that strategy, especially now that the issue has kind of become more devices within the Democratic Party. Well, I tell you what I'm going to be standing by. I'm going to be standing by the cost of living and the economy. I'm going to be standing by education and health care and our aging infrastructure. That's what I'm going to be standing by. I am going to put Michigan first and the 13th congressional district first. That is what I'm standing by. And before you entered the race, Councilwoman, you know, Donovan McKinney had momentum. He had endorsed him. He has the endorsements from Bernie Sanders and Rashida Tlaib. Are you concerned that having multiple challengers, yourself included, could divide progressive and pro-Palestinian voters? Oh, well, you know, those people that were going to vote one way will vote anyway. I cannot stop that. But who says that they had momentum? Who said that? I haven't heard people say that. that these people had momentum. I haven't heard that. Where did you hear that? I'm just going, but I say that only because of the Bernie Sanders and Rashida Tlaib, endorsing him. That's why I said. Oh, well, you know, most people don't even know where Vermont is, which is where Bernie Sanders is from.

They just don't. Talk about what are the top issues you think right now in Detroit, Hamtran McDown River that you think, you know, maybe you're not getting enough attention in Washington. Oh, my goodness. Basic things. Let's think about our education, for example. 90% of Detroit children can't read at a great level. And then you have what about? 44, we ranked 44th here in Michigan. That's right. We can and must do better. And I know that the federal government says that they want to leave it to the states. Okay, well, leave it to the states, but make sure that we're funded properly so that we can take care of our children, so that our children, so that we have family literacy and our children are able to read. Now, cost of living and our economy. Let me just get back to that. When a gallon of milk is pushing $8, that's not just inflation, that's a warning. Councilwoman, where are you getting your milk for $8 a gallon of milk? Well, I said it's pushing. Oh, okay. I didn't say it was eight already. I said, it's pushing. Remember not? Listen to what I just said. I said, it's pushing $8. So, you know. People are not asking for favor. They're asking for fairness. So we need to do more to strengthen wages, restore the dignity of simply being able to provide for our families. Health care is a fundamental right, fundamental right. And our aging infrastructure, I can tell you that every single community throughout the 13th congressional district has aging infrastructure. I'm talking about our roads and our bridges, broadband, all of those things. We've got to pay attention to what people want. And I know that people are sick and tired here in the same old things. I have a track record for getting things done. I, you know, I have led the charge when it comes to defraud. I've led the charge when it comes to skill trades, making sure that our young people have, yes, all of our young people don't want to go to college. But as chairperson of the skilled trade task force, we're giving people our young people an opportunity to meet directly with our labor groups. They talk to them about how they can come and work and be paid as they train. I'm talking about basic needs that our people have. And people are tired of us just going to Washington and dealing with world issues. Listen, what about us? Absolutely. What about us right here in our own state and in our own communities? And that will be my focus. I commit to people in the 13 congressional district. That is what I will do. I will be coming around to the various communities.

I want to know. I already know from the last time what some of their concerns are because I went around to every single community. That's right. The Detroit City Councilwoman and congressional candidate, Mary Waters. Thanks for getting up this morning and talking with us. Really appreciate it. All right. And thank you so much. You are welcome. That's the councilwoman. She's ready for round two with three. 644. Time for ionje engineering. Brought you by CSP, rethinking composites for a lighter, sustainable future. Learn more at the CSP.com. A passenger plane you fly in the future may be a hybrid. Research firm Frownhofer has developed an electric motor for use in Project Amber, an EU Clean Aviation Plan working toward a multi-megawatt hybrid electric propulsion system powered by fuel cells. Key features include a 750 kilowatt power rating at 21,000 RPM. That's 8 kilowatts per kilogram of power density. Stater laminations are made of steel only 0.15 millimeters thick, which reduces eddy current losses. The motor uses rectangular hair pin windings. And in what is a key for the aviation industry, the motor is divided into four independent sections, so that if one fails, the others keep operating. Thermal management is achieved by oil coolant directly sprayed onto the motor. The amber architecture is a parallel hybrid, pairing a conventional turboprop with an electric motor generator and fuel cells. For SAE International, I'm Chris Klotz, and that's an eye on engineering. I heard a noise and sort of thought it was a tray. I thought it was a tray going down. I've heard that many times and it was pretty loud noise. And it was from quite far away. He hadn't breached the area at all. They really got him. So it was quite far away. But it was a gun. That's Donald Trump speaking from the White House. Yes. Just about 45 minutes. Maybe after all of that went down at the White House Correspondence Dinner at the Hilton there in Washington, D.C. and 31-year-old Cole Allen, the gunman from California. And you could tell from videos inside the room, Oos Perlman was there. He's actually from Michigan, graduated from the University of Michigan. He's the mentalist. He was on stage trying, I believe it was to guess Karoline Leavitt's baby's name. Yes. Yes. And you could see the moment when everybody was having a good time listening to him do his thing to the moment they heard, whatever they heard. Yes. You could see it in the First Lady's face. You could see it in his Perlman's face. You could see it on basically everybody who was on the dais.

They all turned and looked forward and knew something was wrong, and we now know it was gunshots. But it sent everybody in the room to the floor, obviously Secret Service, rushed the president, the vice president to try to get them offstage. And Axios was there. They had a lot of folks there at the dinner. And Ben Berkowitz is the head of Newsforaxios.com and joins us to talk about it. Ben, good morning. It's good to have you. Good morning. Great to be with you. What was the account of your folks that were in that room? The first reaction, I think, was confusion. Obviously, there was a lot of loud noises, scrambling. Then you saw the Secret Service rushing into the room, running people out. They heard the train noises the president referred to, which sounded like gunshots. And then it was a bit of a mad scramble. Folks were under tables. Security was running between tables to get cabinet members out of the room. Our folks, meanwhile, were trying to figure out, okay, what's happening. How do we report it? How do we get a signal? Which, by the way, a phone signal was really hard to get in that room because there were so many people in the controlled space. And then really just trying to figure out, all right, what's happening? Are we in danger? Is the president in danger? Controlled chaos. Ben, you know, this happened at an event tied to the White House with the president, the press, top officials all in the room. Are we looking at a failure in security or a success because law enforcement stopped it before mass casualties? Law enforcement would say the latter. The Attorney General was on all of the Sunday shows yesterday and said the latter. The security worked as designed, worked as intended. The Secret Service stopped the alleged shooter well, well, well before he got anywhere near the ballroom or any of those protectees. I know there's been a lot of debate over the last couple of days about how secure was the hotel, was the hotel secured properly. But in terms of what was intended... the Justice Department will tell you that worked exactly as designed. Here's Donald Trump last night, the president talking with Nora O'Donnell on 60 minutes about the job that Secret Service did in that moment. Sir, you have already had two. Well, he was pretty incompetent too because he got caught and he got caught pretty easily. So I'd say he was pretty incompetent too. You know, I could take any event having to do with security or anything else. I can always find fault. Those guys did a good job last night. They did a really good job. And again, I think it's one thing to say they did a good job in the moment, but maybe on the front end, right, on initially securing this vent, I think that's where a lot of the questions arise, Ben. It is. And there's no question that the Secret Service is going to go back and dissect this event and make changes. They always do. Whenever there's an incident like this, you saw it after the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. You saw it after the assassination attempt at Mar-a-Lago. You've seen it historically with other assassinations. The Secret Service will always revisit these things and figure out what could have been tighter, what could have been more secure, what should and shouldn't have happened. There are already questions about, for example, were there too many people in the room? Was the room too tight, which made it tough for security to get to protectees? Those kinds of things are going to be re-evaluating in the coming weeks. And Ben, as head of news for Axiol, so I'm wondering, how do newsrooms balance urgency with responsibility when details like manifestos or notes start to emerge?

It's a great question. The first thing you have to do and the first thing we do is report the facts. What do we know? How do we know it? What is pertinent to what's happened here? As far as some of these things in manifestos, you're absolutely right. You want to balance what was this person's motive? What were they thinking? What did they say they wanted to do? Well, at the same time, you don't necessarily want to. give an unrestrained platform to someone to share views that may not necessarily be commonly held or for the good of society. And so you try to balance those because also you don't want copycats booking of that and saying, oh, if I do the same thing, then my views will be shared with the world too. Ben Berkowitz at Axios, really appreciate your time this morning. Don't be a stranger. We'd love to have you on again soon. Thanks so much. Appreciate it. Yeah, you got it. And we're going to talk to Daniel John Roberts, former assistant FBI director coming up next, or excuse me, coming up at 719 to talk about the security things that would have gone on to make sure that that was a secure event. I just view this as another failure in communication in this country. We have, we as a society, right? And obviously, I know a lot of people on both sides of the aisle, some that have very extreme views that would never. ever go to these lengths. No. To try to harm people, to try to silence political discourse, whatever it is. We have lost our way when it comes to being able to disagree without resorting to violence. I mean, what we were talking, look at the, you know, you had assassinations of presidents over the years. You know, over the years. There's been four successful presidential assassinations. But we're talking about one person, one president who somebody's tried. This is three times now. Three times. Three times. So it is, it is different now. It's different now. The rhetoric is different. Yes. It's not what it was when James Garfield was shot. Right. It wasn't the same. You know, and again, you know, oftentimes these people are crazies. These people have obviously some sort of imbalance where they can't weigh. Maybe I shouldn't go and take guns into a loaded ballroom full of important people into our opening fire. Exactly. You know, I, we've lost our way. And unfortunately, our politicians are to blame. And they never seem to, in any event. change course because that's I don't know if it's not good for their bottom line I don't know if it's not good for what they do they want to stay in power it's job but again there are real world ramifications absolutely and I think this is another spotlight on that once again 7 o'clock hour coming up get you caught up on the latest headlines we'll continue to talking about this and a whole lot more coming up on chair morning It's going to be a pretty nice day today. Yeah. We'll have mostly sunny skies. About 70 today. 70. We could see some storms tonight, though. Probably after 6 o'clock, but then maybe a chance for a storm while you're asleep, probably 11, 11.30, something like that. And that should be. At least while we're asleep, anyway.

Well, because some people might be still up. The pistons are on tonight. Oh, that's true. And that's at 8 o'clock. So we'll probably be up. We'll probably be up. Sure. Hopefully it's raining cats and dogs and wins. Yes. As long as it's raining wins, that's raining threes. Hopefully we get the magic tonight instead of the other team. Look at us. We're ready to rock on a Monday. Acknowledge me. We are obviously following the White House correspondence dinner. Cole Allen of California, the 31-year-old gunman was taken into custody, he's been charged as a result of this. He'll be in federal court today. What's interesting here is he's alive. Yeah. So, you know, oftentimes when we hear these things or see these things, we always wonder, well, what was the motive? And they have to go through and look at their digital footprint or look at what they've got at their home or talk to different people. They can talk directly to him. Yeah. I don't know if you'll cooperate, but yeah, they can talk to them. Well, it makes the case interesting, to say the least. Always when you have a live body. You've got somebody that you can actually talk to about what exactly their exact motive for going after these Trump administration officials were. But it was scary. But what I thought was the right move. in the wake of what happened Saturday night, when Donald Trump got to the White House, when he got to the press room, he talked about doing this again within 30 days. Now, that puts a lot on the White House press, or the correspondent's dinner press association, because they got to redo the whole thing. Yeah. But the president says it needs to be done because we can't let people. You can't let them win, man. You can't let the other side win. I don't like to let these sick people, these thugs, these horrible, horrible people change the fabric of our life, change the course of what we do. So Donald Trump now has been through three of these. Well, I'm sure this is going to add a little credence to the plans that he has to build that ballroom. Look, I don't even know if the White House Press Association would be able to hold it there because that's a federal government building. I mean, there's a reason they don't do it in government buildings. Yeah. But, I mean, you know, it's President Trump, so, you know, kind of can do what he wants to. You can't. For him, I would say that could probably happen. For anybody else, I'd probably say, you know, it wouldn't happen. You can understand him making the case? Absolutely. Again, a guy has been targeted three times. He's like, can I get something with bulletproof glass, please? You know what I mean? I get it. I understand it. I don't know if. If, you know, this weekend was the right time to talk about it, but he talked about it at the press room. He talked about it with Nora O'Donnell last night. This is something that he's talked about a lot, the ballroom being able to be used for something like this for more secure reasons. Meanwhile, Iran has come up with a new offer. And the offer is they're going to end its chokehold on the Strait of Hormuz for the United States lifting the blockade as well. But. As I throw my paddy. But. Yeah. The nuclear conversation comes later.

So Iran says we'll pull out. If you pull out, and then we can talk about our nuclear capabilities and our nuclear ambitions. And if we're going to build a bomb, then we can talk about that. I think Donald Trump is going to say, no. Oh, no, it's not going to happen. Oh, no, it's not going to happen. Oh, so remove the blockade so you guys can make some money because you're broke. Correct. And then we can talk about the nuke's like, no. No, not going to happen. Not going to happen. That's a no-go, I would guess, with this president. And I think he's right. Absolutely. You keep your foot on the gas. Yeah, because right now they're suffering. They're bleeding money. Yes. Absolutely hemorrhaging money. Yes. So there is no reason to pull off of that unless you're going to capitulate on your nuclear plants. On the nukes. Absolutely. It's very simple. A small earthquake was felt across parts of Southeast Michigan Sunday morning. The U.S. Geological Survey says a 2.9 magnitude quake struck around 1030 yesterday morning near Amherstburg. Just. Across the Detroit River, the tremor occurred at a shallow depth at about 2.1 kilometers near Lakewood Beach, across from Rockwood, according to USGS data. Shaking was also reported across Monroe County, parts of eastern Ontario, and as far south as the Toledo area, no damages or injuries were reported. I thought it was just my Kentucky mule. I didn't think it was. I didn't know it was an earthquake. Okay, all right. I don't think I felt an earthquake. No, it wasn't this way. If you were down by Toledo about a border, yeah, yeah, you probably did. It's funny, everyone's, I always find it fascinating when we feel something like that. I remember being here in the newsroom and the building kind of swayed like this. And I said, oh, am I having a, am I? You've got vertigo all of a sudden, you know, and it was an earthquake. Wow. And we felt it here. But the Fisher building, I'm telling you, it swerved, it went back and forth. It was crazy. That is crazy. And were you guys up top then? We were here. No, you were here on the eighth floor. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's absolutely crazy. It was crazy. I'd be like, I'm going home for the day. It was weird. I just saw a whole new side of Canada that I didn't know that I could see from here. No, thank you. No, that was interesting. Pistons get back at it tonight. They lose Saturday 113 to 105. They're down 2 to 1 against the magic in that series, and they go tonight at 8 o'clock. Can we beat the other team instead of us beating us? Can we do that tonight? I don't know. It's been very strange. I mean, they took a late lead. I think it was like a point. Yeah. But they clawed their way back. Yes. Tied it up. It was like two and a half minutes to go, something like that. Yeah. And then they ended up losing it again. But they just don't look. They don't look good. No. I mean, they looked good in game two. But even then it was, I still felt like they could have played better. Yeah. It just, something just does it. It feels a little disjoint. Join it. That's exactly the word. The Tigers, meanwhile, they win yesterday. And how about Spencer Torkelson? Absolutely unbelievable five consecutive games with a home run. That's crazy in and of itself. Getting those torque bombs. And then Kevin McGonigle.

has reached base safely in 24 consecutive starts. I want to talk a little bit more about him at some point today. Yeah, sure. But this dude is unbelievable. I mean, so far so good. I've got a comp, and maybe Jason will call me crazy, but we can talk about it. This dude is something. Absolutely. He's 21 years old. The longest streak for a tiger player, aged 21 or younger, according to Tigers PR, since Al Kline reached 34 bases in 34. bases, he reached bases in 34 consecutive starts in the mid-50s. Absolutely crazy. Unbelievable. Hey, they knew something. That's why they signed them. That's long term. We got a deal. I mean, they got a deal right now. The way he's going to be. He reminds me to Jose Al-Tube, his frame. You know, how small you. Yeah. Yeah. If he ends up being like Jose L. Tuve, we'll take it. Take that. 712, time for WJR's business. B brought you by shelving.com. We rack your world. Here's Jeff Sloan, the founder and CEO of Startup Nation, to spotlight the entrepreneurial tech and startup community on WJR. Good morning. One of the best possible marketing opportunities for small businesses continues to be a focus on social media advertising to drive awareness and engagement. And now new data from the Interactive Advertising Bureau shows that social media advertising revenue continues to grow, which of course ties directly to underscoring. just how effective it is for businesses. Social media revenue hit $117 billion last year. That's up 32.6% year over year. In total, social media ad revenue accounted for 40% of all advertising revenue, primarily due to growth in the creator economy, enhanced commerce integration, and ongoing advancements in targeting measurement and attribution capabilities. Now, creative advertising has become a core media channel with advertising spend reaching 37 billion in 2025. It's growing faster than the broader advertising market with spending projected to reach 44 billion in 2026. And that's certainly contributing to social media advertising's growth. David Cohen, CEO at the International Advertising Bureau, says this. The revenue growth reflects a market that is reoriented around performance channels. As expectations for measurable outcomes rise, investment is concentrating in areas that can directly correlate to spend when it comes to advertising and marketing. I'm Jeff Sloan, founder and CEO of StartupNation.com, and today's business beat is brought to you by Verizon's small business digital ready. Small business owners are always looking for smart ways to have the best shot at achieving business success, and sometimes the right support can make all the difference. That's why I recommend checking out Verizon's small business digital ready. Right now, applications are open for their $10,000 small business grant program, and you can become eligible by completing just two free courses on their platform. These courses cover practical topics like marketing your business, managing your finances, building your online presence, and planning your next stage of growth. Visit startup nation.com forward slash Verizon to get started today.

One officer was shot, but saved by the fact that he was wearing obviously a very good bulletproof vest. He was shot from very close distance with a very powerful gun. And the vest did the job. I just spoke to the officer and he's doing great. He's great shape. That was Donald Trump Saturday night at the press room of the White House after he was taken out of the Hilton and from that White House correspondence dinner where Cole Allen, the 31-year-old of California, the teacher brought multiple weapons, guns, knives into what on his way at least. to the ballroom where he was going to target officials according to a manifesto that has been published. And it has brought up the question of security once again. Yes. This is now, you know, essentially a third attempt on Donald Trump's life. And this one, after two. You wonder, okay, well, I would imagine anywhere he goes. They've got to have really tight security. And then something like this happens again. So the question of, was this properly secured? Right. I think is a valid one at this point. Let's talk to Daniel John Roberts, former assistant FBI director joins us. Daniel, it's good to have you back. What did you make of those questions that were being posed over the weekend? Was this event properly secured? Well, first of all, good morning, guys. Good to be back with you. You know, those are things that they will do what they call an after-action report. After every major incident like this, law enforcement will sit down, take a look at what was done well and what could have been improved. I'm sure there are lessons that they learn from this as to how they can do better the next time. But the fact of the matter is, it all ended up, you know, other than, of course, that the officer was shot, which is horrible. But, I mean, the suspect was taken into custody. He wasn't shot, which is amazing to me. And so therefore, he was, you know, available at least to be interviewed at a later time. So, yes, there are probably some things that they're going to try to tighten up for the next time. You know, he's the president of the United States. He needs to get out. He needs to be able to talk to people, and he needs to be able to go to different venues. And so they're going to have to try to protect him the best that they can. And that's a very challenging thing for the Secret Service. Daniel, just kind of walk us through the next maybe 2472 hours. I know he's going to be in court this morning, but what are investigators focusing on right now? Well, you're right. There's probably a criminal complaint that's being formulated by an FBI special agent right now, if it's not already done, that will charge him with a couple of crimes right off the bat. You know, obviously the gun charges and the assault on the federal officer, meaning the Secret Service officer that was shot, those are easy ones to charge right away. That doesn't preclude them from coming back later on in an indictment in making it a much larger, much more in-depth charges based on what the investment.

investigation tells them. So they're doing a deep dive right now into his background. From what I understand, at least from the press accounts, it doesn't sound like he has much, if any, of a criminal record or criminal background, but they're going to be looking at his cell phones, his internet use, talking to everybody associated with him, his friends, family, coworkers, all of those things and try to determine what his motivation is and why he did what he did. If it turns out that he had some kind of, for example, You know, I'm just postulating here. Maybe he has a terrorism neck connection. That will come out in the investigation and they can add those charges later on. Well, one of the things that they are, I'm sure, investigating at this point is this group, the wide awakes. that he is said to be associated with. The wide awakes go back to Abraham Lincoln. This was a group that was started to help him get elected. And they have changed over the course of their time. They're much more progressive in how they follow things. But one of the things that I've read about them is that they traditionally are nonviolent. And so the connecting the dots and putting the puzzle pieces together of... who he's talked to, his online footprint, things that he's been exposed to, I have to imagine, are all part of this too. Oh, without a doubt. Like I said, there'll be deep dives into his internet use and who he's in contact with and what kind of videos he's looking at and his cell phone contacts and all kinds of things. Anything you can imagine they're going to be taking a long, hard look at. And they've got time because he's in custody. He's not going to go anywhere. I'm sure that the judge is not going to give him a bond on the cases. as heavy as this one. And so they've got time to work that up and try and figure out if there was a deeper connection to a much larger organization or group in this case. It doesn't appear to be at this case. It sounds like the work of a lone wolf offender, but that's just on the surface knowing what we know now. It could be that there is another group like the one you mentioned or somebody else that was working with him. Incidents like this, they hit differently because of the political setting. What does this say about the current threat environment here in the United States? Yeah, it's very scary. And unfortunately, the more that we talk about things like this, it unfortunately gives other people the same idea. And we have to adjust, we meaning law enforcement, has to adjust for each and every scenario like that and hope that the intelligence comes out. The fact of the matter is we rely so much on family and friends on a lone wolf offender like this to be able to identify someone who may be having a mental issue or maybe targeting someone. We rely on that intelligence from the family, from the friends, to be able to identify these lone wolf offenders like this. And we hope that happens in the future and that, you know, the family will call ahead of time if they see someone that is going off the deep end. You know, one of the things that has been making the rounds two on social media and on television is this Secret Service checkpoint that he ran through quickly. And people are wondering how he was able to do that or were they prepared for something like that. What is the purpose of the checkpoints? It seems like that would have been exactly the reason something like that would be put in place.

Well, I'm sure that they had magnetometers set up and that they were scanning every attendee that came in and checking their tickets and making sure that they were, you know, that they were appropriately there before they went in. Now the question is, do they, I'm sure, and there's also. concentric layers of perimeters so there's the you know the inner perimeter obviously right tight against the president and the other officials and then there's a a medium perimeter and probably an outer perimeter we know that this individual came running through the outer perimeter and probably they need to take a look at that to see if there's a better way that we can adjust for that in the future but um But the fact of the matter is he didn't get to the ballroom. He didn't get close to the president or the other administrative officials. So that was great work by the Secret Services, stop them where they did. But yeah, maybe there's other ways, other barriers, other turnstiles, other ways that they could perhaps slow somebody like that down. Daniel John Roberts, always appreciate your vast expertise. Thank you, my friend. We'll talk again soon. All right, great talking to you. Yeah, you got it. Scary, scary stuff. And we'd love to get your thoughts, 800, 8559-0-9-7 if you have thoughts on what happened over the weekend. Plus, Pistons lost Saturday. We'll talk about it next to Jare morning. Fat finger syndrome, my apologies. I'm like, what the president wants you to say? Did you say something? Did you say something? Yeah, exactly. So, Kate Cunningham at 27 points. Here it was the problem Saturday. is they had 16 turnovers and gave up 24 points off those turnovers. You just can't have it. You just cannot have it. And that has become a real problem. And if you look, if you just look at the numbers. I mean, Orlando was doing everything they can to hang with this team. I mean, they are matching us in all of the important categories. And it's now shown that they are, I mean, they're a problem for this team. And whether that's something that are doing or what they're doing, regardless, it has become a problem. And now Detroit. trails this series 2 to 1 after losing Saturday 113 to 105. Game 4 tonight and they got to get this right. Sean Windsor, the sports columnist at the Detroit Free Press, rejoins us once again. Sean, what is going on? Do you have the answers here? I don't know that I have the answers. It's a tough matchup, right? There are a few things. There are a few things. I don't think of Orlando as an eight seat. That's probably the best place to start. Right. They had a lot of injuries in Franz Wagner missed almost 50 games. They had some chemistry issues in the locker room. Shoot, they were talking about losing their coach a few weeks ago. But talent-wise, they are not an eight-seed, and they're every bit of talent is in Detroit. So start there.

The second place is just a tough matchup. They play similar style of Detroit. They're big. They're physical. They're into paint. And that's where Detroit loves to live, especially offensively, especially Jaylen Duren and Kate Cunningham. And those are two issues that you don't normally see in a one versus eight seed matchup. A couple of things, too, Sean. You know, Cade, he took responsibility, but, you know, nine turnovers. That's kind of tough to overcome. And then Jalen Duren, he's been almost kind of invisible offensively compared to the regular season. What's going on with that? Well, Wendell Cutter Jr. is outplayed him. And by the way, I think he's getting in the head of Isaiah, too, a little bit, who also more quietly got benched Saturday in the second half because he couldn't kind of control. It's emotional a little bit. You know, that's been an issue for Stewart here and there. But he's so important to them defensive. Jane LaDure, a flat-out got benched, right, in the third quarter. And his struggle all three games. He was a little bit better late in the fourth quarter when the Detroit made the push and overcame that 17-point deficit and tied the game up. And he's protected the rim a little bit better. But offensively, he's just a mess and he's overthinking. And you wonder, you know, he's got a potentially big contract to sign at some point with contract extension. Excuse me. You wonder if he's thinking about that a little bit. There's a Draymond Green, you know, the former Michigan straightway Golden State Warrior loves to say there are 82 game players in the NBA, you know, right in the length of the regular season, and there are 16 game players. The number of games you have to win to win an NBA championship. And Duren, there's also a difference in 82K money and 16-K money. And you know, you wonder if that's messing with him at all. But it's also just a matchup with Wendell Carter Jr. who's gotten the better of him. Duren's definitely got to settle down a little bit. Stop over second and simplify his game. But the pistons are going to be even more trouble. Yeah, I'm with you. I don't think they feel like an eight seed, certainly. But at the same time, it feels like, boy, if you can find a way out of this series. You know, I like the matchup against Boston more than I like the matchup against Orlando. You know, I don't necessarily fear some of these other teams like I worried about Orlando just because, as you mentioned, the physicality. They play with a much different type of tone in the paint than a lot of these other teams do. They do, and their guards are even, you know, Desmond Baines got a good size. Jalen sucks. Good defender. They got a couple of wing players off the bench. They can get up into Cape Cunningham a little bit. And by the way, you're right. He did take responsibility that day, the nine turnovers. Several of those turnovers, I'm sure you guys watched. They're too casual, right? Right. He didn't show the focus really until that fourth quarter. He played fairly efficient and well the first couple of games. But it was not good enough in game three. And he's got to be better. And that's really where it starts because he is the best player in the series.

Well, they play a game tonight, and if they fall behind 3-1, is this series essentially over or do you still see a pathback? I think it's over. I don't think the last time the business is imagine playing the playoffs. They fell down 3-1 and came back, but that was the Tracy McGrady, Orlando team. Right. Beginning and going to go on a work team with Ben Wallace and Chonzie and Rashid and those guys. But that talent difference was greater than it is right now. I do not. If they fall down three to one, I don't see them coming back. What do you think the game plan tonight is? Obviously, don't turn the ball over. Don't come out flat. Don't come out flat. But is there something that they can exploit that you've seen? I think it's as simple as what a Sarr Thompson said. You said flat. I think it's just as simple of what a Sart Thompson said for the game the other day. Intensity. They didn't have it. They had it in game two. They did not have in game one and they did not have in game three. And that's just odd, right? Especially for a 60 win game, you know, 60 win team. It is. Who lives on that, and that defensive intensity. You know, they do have some match-up issues when Tobias Harris and Duck and Robertson out there. They don't quite get stops at the same rate, maybe as opposed to some other issues. And J.B. Bicketts has been trying to balance the floor between offense and defensive within the lineups. And obviously, that's a larger issue of the roster. But those are questions for the all season. Right now, though, the way they can win, the only way they can win. is to defend and with a certain kind of focus and intensity. And it has not been consistent for the first three games. And Assar Thompson, who was great the other day, by the way, and we would have been talking about him the last couple days if they'd won, was pretty clear and direct. And I think that's the only way out. Interesting. Something that we're going to watch tonight, glued to the TVs. That is going to be, what, an 8 o'clock tip tonight? Is it on Peacock? I think it's on peacock. Yeah, I think it is. Who knows anymore? It's a doggone shame, man. You know, it's a roll of the dice. Yeah, exactly. Sean Windsor, appreciate you as always. Thank you. All right. Yeah, you got it. NBC Peacock tip at 8 o'clock tonight. You have to guess. Hopefully you got NBC. Hopefully everybody's got NBC. Goodness. Yeah, I don't know. Tonight, again, it was very similar to how we felt about going into game two. It's like a must win. Must win. Tonight is a must win because I'm with Sean Windsor. If they lose tonight, it feels like too big of a hill to climb. And I'm saying the intensity thing, man, come on. You guys won 60 games and you were pretty consistent all year long. Even when Kay wasn't there, you were really consistent. And then you get into the playoffs and you just get flat. Yeah. Also, Lions wrapped up their drafts, their 2026 draft class this weekend. What did you make of it? We'll talk to Matt Derry on the other side on Jamourning.

Well, what we don't know from this Lions draft class is how many of these guys are going to be starters. They're going to have to go through camp and go through that process, earn a lot of these jobs. But they did address a number of issues. And obviously started night one. They go out and get offensive tackle Blake Miller from Clemson. He'll play on the right side, presumably. And then they go out and get Derek Moore out of Michigan out of the edge spot. Really nice addition like that. Jimmy Rolder out of Michigan as well for the linebackers. hit a number of different spots and even went and got a cornerback in the fifth round. So I actually really liked this draft class. Now, what they turn into, something that we'll see. Let's bring in Matt Derry, the host of the Lockdown Lions podcast to talk about it. Matt, good morning. Good to have you. Hey, gentlemen. How are you? We're good. We're good. What did you make about this draft for Brad Holmes? Well, I know we talked last week, guys. I really believe that Brad Holmes did something that he hasn't done the last few years, really maybe ever. And that is, he did draft for need. And he's not going to admit it. I know he kind of chuckled and smiled at the media the other day and did it in a funny way and a loose way. But they needed a right tackle. They needed an edge. And he didn't. Yes, I still think he did go best player available at those spots. But I truly believe he looked up and said, I've got to get these certain positions right. and did so with the right tackle, with Derek Moore, like you said, with the edge, Blake Miller, the first round pick I just think is so solid and so steady. And I think you could put him there for 10 years. He does kind of remind me of Taylor Decker a little bit, ironically enough. And then Derek Moore's a good football player. I mean, Derek Moore, with 10 sacks last year, a bunch of pressures, was a team captain. And again, that was a Michigan defense that said, let's be honest. And I don't want to take personal shots at somebody. They weren't really coached properly last year. I mean, the defensive coordinator of Michigan worried more about being on the golf course in a short game than coaching. So I think that he and or older, both, will get better coaching at this level. Matt, the team was 9 and 8 last year. Do you think this draft made them a playoff team again? I mean, Lloyd, that's the hope. I mean, you look at, I don't even think it's this draft that's going to make them a playoff team. I think it's guys being put in better positions, a better offensive coordinator, not having to go through the things they went through last year, injury-wise, with their two safeties. The Drew Petting higher is an upgrade over John Morton. And I think Dan Campbell has said it numerous times and continues to say at any time he's in front of the media, they've got to get their edge back. This is a team that when they were, you know, favored and people talking about them and they won 15 games two years ago. Everybody went, oh, man, the lions, the lions, the lions. The people were talking about them. Yeah. And I think the players heard it. And now it's, all right, they're finished in last place. Everybody's going to pick the Bears, I'm assuming, to win the division with others people sprinkled in.

probably propping up Green Bay. And so the Lions getting back to almost being an underdog a little bit and no respect type of situation might give them a little bit more of that edge and that hunger to prove people wrong. I know it's kind of silly to talk about because all teams go to try to win. But I do believe this team, you know, and they're doing very different things this offseason. They're now not holding a rookie mini camp. Brad Holmes wasn't at the league meetings. They didn't have a local pro day. They kept their top 30 visits very quiet. They're trying a lot of different things to get back to who they used to be just a couple years ago. You've got to bite some kneecaps? You've got to go back and bite kneecaps again? I don't know. Lloyd, are we really bringing that back? Lloyd, come on. I actually think they got better, and I think part of it is because of what you're saying. Just the way that they're going about business now is different. You know, the way that they've been pretty bullish on resigning some of these guys so they're getting deals in the long run. I mean, I think they're playing it smart. I think the problem that some fans have is they're not being bullish and free agency enough or they're not being aggressive enough is to filling some of those needs where, you know, if we are in fact in our Super Bowl window now, then. I don't need, you know, Skylar Gil Howard three years from now to develop. I want somebody right now that's going to be proven that can be a disruptor in that interior defensive line. So I think that's what the juxtaposition that a lot of fans are put in to. Oh, no, I think that's fair. I think if you're into week five or six and you look up, Chris, and you go, okay, why isn't Derek Moore getting to the past or enough? Why isn't Jimmy Rolder starting over Malcolm Rodriguez? And then you go, all right, if in free agency we would have just taken $30 million a year and given it to Trey Hendrickson, wouldn't he have been better? And the answer is, of course, because Trey Hendrickson's a proven player. But what the Lions are saying is we don't have that money. We are a middle-of-the-road cash spending team. Those are the words of Rod Wood. He said, we are going to be league average and cash spending. So if that's the case, then they better resign Jack Campbell soon, Jemir Gibbs soon, Leport if he's healthy and Branch if he's healthy, and say, here's the money we allocated that, yes, if we really wanted to go get Trey Henderson, we couldn't because we had to use that money on these players that are currently here. They've got to do that. They've said they're going to. I think they're going to. But I also believe, like you said, Derek Moore will compete with DJ Wanham. Blake Miller will compete with Larry Borum. Jimmy Rolder will compete with Malcolm Rodriguez. So it's going to be competition at three starting spots, which you hope will elevate the level of play. on the field later in the year where guys will just play better. Because last year, like you said, after a 15-win season, all the guys came back and pretty much knew who was going to start where. And they weren't whackadaisical. They got beat up and lost eight games. So hopefully that competition in the spring and summer will lead to better play. Good stuff. As always, Matt Derry, we appreciate you. We'll talk again soon.

Thanks, guys. Yeah, you got it. See you. I love the class. I really do. And he's right. Brad Holmes talks about best player available. They go and get the best player available. Whatever that looks like on their draft board, whether that requires a trade up, trade down doesn't matter. They're going to do that to get the best player available. But it did seem like they were hitting a lot of the needs, which is a different mentality for Brad Holmes than the normal. Also, Kevin McGottigal, I can't. I can't quite put into words how excited I am for this kid. This guy is something, man. You know what he's got? You said a little Jose Altuve, Jason said earlier. And maybe you guys think I'm crazy. He's got a little Mike Trout in him, doesn't he? Is that crazy? No. Uh-uh. And he can bulk up. I mean, sure, physically, but his numbers are off the charts. And again, it's still early in the season. I'm telling you. But you look at his numbers and they are really, really impressive. He is just incredibly consistent. And you would think somebody at that age, when all of this is going on, it starts to get to your head a little bit, he just goes out. And he's been, what, 320 he's batting right now? And what a bargain for the Tigers? Absolutely insane. 8 o'clock hour coming up. We'll get you caught up on everything you need to know specifically at the White House correspondent's dinner. It's next to your morning. All right, 8 o'clock hour, good to have you, obviously following. What happened exactly at the White House Correspondents dinner? Donald Trump was there as a guest for the first time as a sitting president. He skipped them all before. But he decided to come to this one. And it was Uz Perlman, who's a Michigan native, as a matter of fact, went to the University of Michigan. He was doing his mentalist thing, which is fascinating, by the way. If you've never seen any of his stuff, it is, I don't know what he's doing. He's on some dark magic or something. I don't know. Okay. But they were doing this bit of guessing Karoline Leavitt's child's name because she's pregnant. That's right. And it was at that moment where they heard the gunshots. Now, they didn't know if it was a tray of dishes falling or if it was a gunshot. Yeah. But that's when it was happening. And Donald Trump said that it's shocking when something like this does happen. It's always shocking when something like this happens, happened to me a little bit. And that never changes. The third time, as a matter of fact, that he's been around something like this or has been the target of something like this. The suspect is in custody. 31-year-old Cole Allen of California. Reports say that he traveled from California to Chicago, then to D.C. on an Amtrak train. And he kept his guns at his parents' house. They didn't even know that he had them. Wow. And so it was in this manifesto that has been published about what exactly he was thinking.

And one of the things that he specifically cited was not wanting to be complicit or have this. leader who's a pedophile and a rapist and all of those things. And he talked about people who weren't targets, which were hotel staff, people who weren't affiliated with the administration, journalists. He said, unless they get in my way, then he would hurt them if that was what ultimately ended up with his goal. But they've captured him. He's alive. And so they're going to question him. He's been charged. He's going to be arraigned today. on those charges. And so the questions of security have been brought back up. Yeah. Once again, rightfully so. I was just reading an account of one of the journalists that was there. His hotel room was next to Cole Allen. Oh, on the 10th floor? Yeah. Okay. And he said, you. The major security failure in that building was that, A, he was able to walk in with these disassembled guns, the disassembled long gun. But it was more so the fact that there was no security hand checks. There was no, there was nothing there that would prohibit somebody who was already in the building from traversing the property. And that was the problem. He goes, the only thing I had to do was show my ticket around. That was it. Oh, man. So you have people in the building. This guy was like, I came in the night before. So I avoided all of that. Sure, sure. And that is the security failure. And this guy went down steps. Correct. You know, 10 floors of steps. I mean, was there no one in the, you know, in the steps, in the corridors, in the hallways, at the doors of the steps entering the lobby area, you know, any type of. checkpoint there. I mean, you know, there were some soft targets. It was some soft spots there that they need to hearten if they do this again, which what the president wants to do. And I think that's right. I think they should do it again. And I think he should be there again. Kash Patel, the head of the FBI, credited the Bureau's quick response. Thanks to our interagency partnership with the Department of Homeland Security and the Metropolitan Police Department, the FBI was rapidly deployed onto the scene, took over the evidence response unit, is examining all the ballistics that were found on scene to include the long gun and the shell casings. Daniel John Roberts, the former assistant of the FBI here in Detroit, talked about the charges that... Cole Allen's facing. There's probably a criminal complaint that's being formulated by an FBI special agent right now if it's not already done that will charge him with a couple of crimes right off the bat. You know, we obviously the gun charges and the assault on the on the federal officer, meaning the Secret Service officer that was shot, those are easy ones to charge right away. That doesn't preclude them from coming back later on in an indictment in making it a much larger, much more in-depth charges based on what.

the investigation tells them. So they're doing a deep dive right now into his background. And now federal law enforcement is going to, they're going to autopsy this event. Oh, absolutely. And figure out what exactly happened to you. From top to bottom. But they were able to get the president offstage fairly quickly. He said he was told to get down. It looked like he tripped is what it looked like to me. Yeah. Uh-huh. But he said that that. But he said he wanted to kind of see what was going on. Well, he said initially, because he was on 60 Minutes with Nora John Roberts last night. And she asked him about that. And he said, well, I kind of wanted to see what was going on. So I wasn't really quick to get up. You know, some of the videos that you've seen, JD Vance gets picked up by his shoulders. By the shoulders, yeah. And he gets ushered away very quickly. Donald Trump kind of sat there for a minute. Well, everybody else kind of started to scramble. Then you had the active units that would go out that were armed that were ready to protect the president as well. They were out very quickly. But the Secret Service did get to him at about 10 seconds. They did. Very quick. And it took them another 20 seconds to get the president off the stage. He said. that he got down. He was told to get down. So he got down. Then they kind of picked them back up and and usher him off into a safe room. Yeah. But a very scary situation. And, you know, Cole Allen's live. So they're going to be able to question it. I'm going to tell you, walking into a Detroit public school now feels may feel a little bit, Chris, like clearing airport security. The district has rolled out visitor aware. It's a facial recognition system installed at school entrances. To get inside, visitors must present a driver's license, which is scan alongside a facial recognition check. The district says it's a necessary step to modernize security and verify identities. However, The technology is sparking some pushback. As you know it would, the ACLU and private advocates warned that facial recognition remains unreliable with high error rates for people of color and children. Critics also fear the system could discourage parents from visiting or create a chilling effect in communities wary of surveillance. District officials maintain the software is strictly for school safety and is not linked to external law enforcement databases. And still, though, the debate... continues over whether this tech is a security upgrade or an unnecessary invasion of privacy. We have that in my kid's school district. Facial recognition? Facial recognition. I don't remember if you just scan your card or you put it in the kiosk there. I'm fine with it. Fine with it. I don't care. I don't want anybody getting into that school that shouldn't be there. To me, it's about safety. Yes. We've had these incidents in Metro Detroit. Yep. And if there's a way that we can cut down on them or eliminate them all together, let's do it. I completely agree. Meanwhile, Iran has a new offer. Oh, yeah. Okay. They say that they're going to end the chokehold in the Strait of Hormuz in exchange for the United States lifting its blockade.

Oh, and then after that, we'll talk about nuclear. Uh-uh. Nope. That's the new offer. Yeah. Which means help we're desperate. We need that money. We don't have money coming. We're losing $500 million a day. So the economic pressure is working. It is. And I think that the United States should hold out. The president is not going to go for this. Oh, he said, no, you know. It's not going to call us on the phone, he said. Yeah. We can do phone it. We can do phone in it. It's not, it's just not good. That's not a start. That is not going to happen. No. But Iran's starting to. To budge a little bit. Oh, they're budging because they're hurting. They're hurting. Pistons lose Saturday, but they got an opportunity to tie this series with the magic tonight, 8 o'clock, NBC Peacock. Come out with some intensity. You've got to come out with some fire. You've got to come out with fire. And you can't beat yourself. And you can't turn the ball over all those times either. Can't turn it over. Can't give up the fast break points. Jay D has to come live. He's been kind of quiet. Everybody needs to come alive at this point. And then there's this. Torkelson drives one. Deep to left field. Watch it fly. Yay. Another tort bomb. Fifth consecutive game that Spencer Torkelson has homered tying the franchise mark. Tigers take a five-three lead. Absolutely love it. I love it. Man, what? I mean, he just listened to us that day and he just decided to... I guess I take all the credit. Hey, man. I guess I have to take all the credit. Look, it's good. It's perfect. It's exactly what we need for cuts or torquals. If you could homer in every game, things are going to be good. See how we change? We know we do it with Dr. Steve. You can home and every game. You're going to be better than Babe Ruth. Whatever it is. Do that. Just homer in every... Just home, why don't they do that at every event? I don't understand. Got to listen to us every day. We change people's lives. We were changing lives. That's what we're doing. We're just helping Spencer Torkelson get paid. That's what we do here on J.R. Morning. Coming up on the other side, we are rapidly approaching the Detroit Grand Prix. David Lucas joins us. He's team Penske. It's coming up on J.R. Moring. Well, the 36th Grand Prix event in Detroit returns downtown to the circuit May 29th through the 31st. It's such a fantastic race. It's a race that we love, obviously, as spectators. Yes. But the drivers. Love the Detroit track too. And David Mel Lucas, of course, is with Team Penske, driving the number 12, the Verizon Chevrolet, and he joins us in studio this morning. David, it's great to see you. Very good to see you guys. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Talk about the buildup for an event like this, because we've talked to a lot of drivers over the years. And there is some fondness for this track. Is it something that you find too?

Oh, 100%. Yeah. I mean, for me, this is actually, you know, I think since we, I've also loved it before when we were in Belle Isle, but this track for me is actually the first track where I got my first fast six appearance. It was kind of my first introduction of like, hey, I'm pretty quick in the series. I can be here. Yeah. And since we moved it to downtown, I mean, it is, it is incredible. I think the hard challenge for street courses trying to make the racing still good, right? You're working through normal streets. And here at Detroit, they actually do such a fantastic job. I mean, if you look from last year, we had 261 on-track passes, which for a street course already, I mean, that number by itself is insane, but first street course, it's crazy. So we're always looking forward to come to Detroit, especially it's always right at the end of May, right after ending 500. To keep that momentum going of going to a strong circuit, Detroit does it well. How much of this race is about driver's skill versus team strategy, pit stops, timing, adjustments and stuff like that? It's a very good balance. I mean, it's obviously it's very much driver's skill. You need to get passes done. You need to make sure you can get around people on different tire strategy. Because we have two different sets of tires. We have the primary and alternates. Primaries are not as fast, but they last longer. Alternates, a lot faster, but they don't last as long. And when you're... going through the pit stops and intersecting with those tires, you need to get around the slower tires. You know, that's like necessary from the driver perspective. Okay. And then from the strategy side, you want to make sure you don't get around those opposite tires. So that's the whole point. But if they do, you know, they'll go on the radio and say, hey, man, sorry, but you got to do it. You got to get past. Yeah. Talk about the endurance that you need as a driver. So you finished second at Indianapolis last year, right? You had your best starting position for the Detroit Grand Prix presented by Lear. You were the front row second position. Yeah, just a lot of seconds. Absolutely. Yeah, but that's a huge. step. Yes, for sure. Talk about the conditioning that you go through to prepare for these races. It's so much. And it goes into two different sections. You know, there's a physical aspect and then there's the mental aspect. From the physical side, I mean, everybody understands, you know, you got to get to the gym. You got to be ready for it. You're trying to, we actually have heart rate monitors and a lot of different tools in the car to look where our heart rates at, you know, where it's staying. And we actually do. pre and post like blood pressure tests just to see where we're at and we can try to mimic that in a training scenario to make sure that your body can get better from that you know zone two zone three try to bring that down and from the mental side i mean these races you know detroit is roughly around two hours i mean your brain likes to wander in two hours you know and i think trying to stay on task that's the most important thing and you know it sounds funny but you'll go down the straightaway it's a super long straightaway especially for a street course super cool sixth gear top it out But it gets long. You do so many laps. You're going to start thinking, well, what am I having for dinner tonight? You know, like, you start getting these thoughts. And it's like, wait, hold up. We got to race. We got to focus. And it sounds funny, but it truly is something that your mind wants to do. And we do a lot of strategy on making sure we stay on task and don't think about dinner. I mean, but, you know, these three courses are kind of a different animal. I mean, you know, the tight turns and kind of no room for error. So, I mean.

How far can your mind really wander when you got to deal with thinking about that? Exactly. Yeah. I mean, like for Detroit, like I said, really the only time is really straightaway other than that. I mean, you make one little mistake. You are going to be, you're going to be, there's no room. There's no grass. There's no runoff. You're going straight to a concrete wall. Right. But no, I mean, yeah, from our side, there's so much training that we do, especially in that offseason to make sure that we can prepare for places like Detroit. I love the mental side of racing that you talked about. But you also have, I mean, you have a big team, right? And there's a lot of communication that goes into making sure that you're able to have these high place finishes or good starting positions. What goes into that when you're on a new team, for example, and you're looking to fine-tune. this or that on the vehicle, but then you're looking to fine tune your communications too. There's a lot that goes into it, but I think the most interesting to talk about is the kind of the codes, you know, because everybody can scan other radios. And let's say you're competing with people and you want to do a pit stop, but you kind of want to jump the other guy. We actually have codes. So let's say on the radio, he'll say, hey, pit this lap, box, box, come in this lap. but that's not our code we actually have a switch code that when i hear that switch code let's say randomly it's like purple seven that means pit this lap but when they see on the radio box this lap i know I'm not pitting this lap, but they're trying to make the other drivers think, oh, he's coming in this lap, so we're going to come in this lap. And we get all the guys, all the guys come out, pretending we're coming in, and we don't. And we drive by, they come in, and now we can do an overcut. And at that point, that's when we go, okay, let's go purple five, and let's go full push, push the pass, get the extra horsepower, and try to jump him on the pit stop. So that, to me, is the most fun. I mean, you have all these different strategies and codes and... I mean, we're literally speaking different languages out there. You're like a quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, exactly. We're doing all these different strategies on how to mess with the other guys. As popular as the Grand Prix is, and a lot of people show up at the Grand Prix every year, there are so many who come down for the first time, bring their families. What would you say to those people who are coming down for the first time as far as why you should be down there and check it out? Well, I think there's nothing like it, especially when you come in person. I mean, we have the dual pit lane, which I'm pretty sure Detroit was the first place to introduce it. And that, I think, is the best viewing point. You get the view of, you know, the last few turns going in before pit lane. But seeing all that action from the dual pit lane, you got both sides. It's chaotic. I like to call it as beautiful chaos. But you're going to get goosebumps. I'm telling you, you're not going to have a single feeling in the world when you actually go to the track and you're there and you're hearing the engines roaring, you're in pit lane, you're seeing all the energy, the action. And there's a lot of guys, the engineers and mechanics, they're putting their lives at risk going out there doing these things. And you get to see that fuel that adrenaline. For sure, you don't even need to get your cup of coffee. All you got to do is you get to the track. That's your cup of coffee. And then you're feeling good for the rest of the day.

Yeah, I mean, for me, I remember my first time coming to an indie car track. It wasn't at Detroit, but any any indie car track, especially Detroit here, when you come, that man, that first time feeling, you're going to be hooked from that point on. And tickets are now on sale for the 2026 Detroit Grand Prix presented by Lear. Ticket, single day tickets, 40 bucks. You can buy them at Detroit GP.com. How did you find your way into the racing world? I got in actually when I was a... I always say the joke, six or seven, right, six, seven. Okay. I was six or seven. I was six or seven. I got to tell you, my son is going to freak out when he hears this. You know he is. Loves cars and we get a racer dropping a six, seven. That's cool. Well, I did start race when I was six or seven years old. And it actually came along from, you know, from my dad. He was always so in love with racing, motorsports, all that stuff. But he was actually at the time. So when he grew up, he lived in Lithuania, which was occupied by the Soviet Union at the time. So they never had the opportunity. So they actually had to like smuggle in like the tapes and stuff to watch Western content of these races, these motorsports. And he always wanted to do it. And when the Soviet Union collapsed in 91, they came to America and they built their own American dream. You know, my dad was a truck driver. Mom was a dispatcher. And together they built a trucking company that's over 650 trucks now. And it's a really incredible story. But, you know, with all that help, he was able to, you know. fun me and live his dream of racing a little bit through me. I always loved racing growing up, but he was the, you know, I'm six or seven years old. Like you sell a seven-year-old, hey, you like racing? Like, oh, yeah, of course. But I'm like picking my nose playing hot wheels. You know, I don't. Yeah, that sounds cool. But he was the one that truly at those younger ages really put me going on the weekends. It was a father's son activity. We were go-karting together and we built that foundation and that led us all the way to hear. David Maloo, really. Have a wonderful race. We're so happy you're here in town when we are rooting you on. David Malukas for Team Penske. Go get them. Thank you very much. Root for that number 12 car out there. Number 12 Verizon for Team Penske. We'll take a break. More coming up on J.R. Morning. We are so very thankful to members of law enforcement who did their jobs tonight and made sure that all guests were safe. That was Muriel Bowser. the mayor of Washington, D.C. on Saturday night. And one of the things that was very apparent was the quick response times by authorities, whether that was secret service, whether that was local police and everybody in between. But the questions surrounding the security of the event. As a much larger topic, it seemed to be something that is going to be looked at heavily by both federal law enforcement, local law enforcement. Certainly, let's talk about it. Sheriff Michael Bouchard out of Oakland County. Also, he does a lot of work with major county sheriffs of America and joins us this morning to talk about it. Sheriff, it's good to have you.

Yeah, my pleasure to be with you. Let's talk about your outside looking in, and I'm actually guessing you've probably fielded calls over this over the weekend to fact-find and find best practices here. But just from what you've seen, things that we've heard, what did you make of the security of this event? So you're a national intelligence spread with... You switch as part of the National America, where we get immediate notification of having of concern anywhere. Sheriff, I want to put you on hold real quick. We're having some trouble with your phone signal. We're going to reconnect with you here in just a moment. Just want to get you caught up on a couple of things. So the shooter, 31-year-old Cole Allen of California, 31 years old. He is set to be arraigned today, according to Janine Piro, the U.S. Attorney for Washington, D.C. It's clear that this individual was intent on doing as much harm as he could, according to her post on X. Thank God for our law enforcement who acted so quickly to prevent what could have been a horrific event. And Sheriff Mike Bouchard rejoins us once again. Sheriff, what were you saying? You had already been working those phones. You had already talked to a number of people about this. Yeah, so I'm on a thread of major counties of America and major city chiefs, which Washington is a part of. So anytime anything of concern happens anywhere in a world, we start communicating, looking for what's going on, what the threat is, could it be coming to our AOR, our area, all of those kinds of things, and what implications it has in both real time and in the future. So yes, my phone was lighting up. as is what's happening real time. Sheriff, you know, when the public hears about a breach like this, the immediate reaction is the security failed. Is that a fair assumption or is it the reality more complicated? I think the reality is more complicated, especially when you're talking about a functioning, still operating major hotel. The challenge is you've got literally thousands of people that are in and out of that hotel that have nothing to do with the event that the president happened to be attending. So what does that do to the screening? What does that do to layered security? And some of it is an assumption of risk. If you're going to have certain events at certain venues, you realize you may not be able to control all aspects of it that you'd like to. And it goes to, I guess, the debate, whatever side you're on with a ballroom near the White House or on the White House grounds, then they own the real estate, right?

They know they can control and secure it 100% at a hotel where you've got guests that are coming and going. What level of screening do they get or can they even get? What does that do to the hotel's operation? If every time somebody's in a hotel has to get completely screened all of their luggage, how far out do you start screening it? Yeah. Week, two weeks? What if somebody's there for two weeks? So do you go into their rooms then? So, you know, there's all sorts of layers to this. That's why what they try to do is lock down a perimeter in the actual physical site, lock down an interior, and locked down a close proximity to the protectees. And I think those layers were in place. That's what the person tried to rush through and was stopped. And I think that, you know, that layer did its job. It stopped them from getting into the next. circle which would be the interior of the ballroom talk about the work that local law enforcement and federal law enforcement do to prepare for any type of event like this where the president or or another high ranking official would be Yeah, so you do site visits. You make a determination of all sorts of things without giving into too much detail to give adversaries what happens in what we do. But you do a great deal of workup on the actual physical location. What implications does that have? What kind of surroundings do you have to secure? How do you get in and out? What's your alternative routes in and out? All of those kinds of things. It's a lot of work. They work on this stuff a long time before people that are protectees show up. And then they do that with the locals because the majority of bodies in those venues are locals. You know, the Secret Service is a very, very good organization. They just don't have the manpower when, you know, when they get to a venue that they need from the locals. And, you know, after an incident like this, Sheriff, does this lead really to a full reevaluation of how these high-profile events are protected going forward? Yeah. Every time you have any event, you have to do an after action, make a determination what worked, what didn't work, what can we do better next time. Obviously, there were a lot of failures in Butler, and I think they realized that and they've targeted those failures. You know, a lot of us that have worked. A lot of these, and I've, so many of these that I've done in the past, looked at Butler and went, wow, there was some very, very big gaps in. But in this particular situation, when you've got a venue as large as a hotel with people in and out, people are saying, well, how did he get that into the hotel? He checked in a day before. A day or two before. What if he checked in a week before? People said, well, they should have screened everybody. They were checking in a day before. What about two days? What about three days? Where does it stop? Right. You know, what do you do at a venue like that? Right. And I think that, you know, again, that circle to stop people from getting into the next circle works. And I also think that, you know, things like this aren't like TV. This happened real time and happened so frigging fast. Right. This guy was sprinting through the checkpoint. The video is amazing. And I'm with you. It seemed like it worked. None of those targets were actually ended up targeting in the end. Thank you.

And certainly they're going to continue to look at this. Sheriff Mike Bouchard, I always appreciate the insight. Thank you. Sure. Yeah. That's going to do it for us today. Kevin D. Teton, All Talk, coming your way next. Have yourself a wonderful Monday. We'll see you tomorrow.