JR Morning ~ June 25, 2026 ~ Full Show

Hi, Lloyd. Good morning. Good morning, sir. Nice to see you. Nice to be seen. 605 here on a Thursday. Good morning to you. It's good to have you. And I... I remember going back earlier this year. That must have been what? Maybe February. Okay. When Terry and Arnold was accused of this kidnapping plot down in Florida. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, now he was arrested yesterday in Florida. He's facing four counts of kidnapping and four counts of armed robbery tied to this incident in the Tampa area from earlier this year. And these charges could potentially carry life sentences. if he is convicted. Authorities say Arnold was involved in a plan targeting three men. He suspected of stealing valuables from an Airbnb he was renting. Those men were allegedly lured into an apartment, held at gunpoint, assaulted, and robbed by a group of co-conspirators. Investigators say Arnold was the coordinator of this incident. He was the head key figure in this case. And here's what they... Here's what Terry and Arnold and his people at the Airbnb in Largo said was stolen. $100,000 cash, an $80,000 necklace, other high-end jewelry, designer goods, personal items, that some of these people that may have been involved, they thought, were a driver. Oh, okay. Just putting them around. Putsing them around, yeah, right? Uh-huh. And they say they lured three men into an apartment under false pretenses, identified them as suspects. Victims were held at gunpoint, beaten, pistol whipped, and restrained, not allowed to leave. That's where the kidnapping churches come in. Yeah. And their personal belongings were stolen as well. Wow. And the other, from what I understand, the other co-conspirators are ones who were with him. Most of them have sung. And some have been sentenced. I think one is waiting to be sentenced. And they're all singing. And said, yep, he's the guy who, you know, he was the head guy. So, I mean, you know. Eight felony counts. See, that's life if you get convicted on all that stuff, man. And it's a shame because, you know, he. Seemed like a good kid. Yeah. I mean, you know, I remember, because if I'm not mistaken, Jason, correct me if I'm wrong. You're a cowboy fan. You don't remember. Wasn't he their pick in Detroit? I told you never to talk to me like that, Chris. Come on. Wasn't he there? Haven't I suffered enough? Was it fair? Yes, you have. Yes, you have. That's a true statement. I think he was their pick here in Detroit at the draft.

I think Terry and Arnold was the Detroit draft pick. I believe so, yeah. I'd have to look. Let me double check on that. But. Regardless, I just remember him saying when he was drafted, I can't wait to win a Super Bowl for this team. Oh, yeah. And now, and now look at this. You know, it's a, I mean, his life could be over. I mean, you know, his career. Out there holding people up a gunpoint and pistol whipping him. I mean, come on, man. Really? Yeah, that's, that's pretty. Did I not say the Lions just can't have nice things, right? Yes, I walked in this morning and Jason goes, do you hear about Terry Arnold's story? I'm like, yeah. He goes, the Lions just can't have nice things. Well, the Lions issued a statement saying they are aware of the situation, but will not comment further out of respect for the ongoing legal process. Yeah, 2024. He was drafted in that draft. Yeah. So it's a sad situation. Yeah. The president has lost an appeal. He tried to get one. Michigan can continue to keep sensitive voter information private after a federal appeals court ruled against the Trump administration's effort. to obtain personal data from registered voters. The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a lower court ruling saying federal law does not require Michigan to release information such as birth dates, driver's license numbers, or partial social security numbers. Michigan Secretary of State Joshua Guy Benson says the federal government can still obtain voter registration lists that are available to the public. Trump administration argued the information is needed to verify compliance with federal election laws and investigate possible voting irregularities. State attorneys countered that the information could be used to create a national voter database and share it with federal immigration authorities. Similar lawsuits have been rejected in several other states. Yeah, I mean, I get it. Yeah. You know, I could probably make an argument on both sides of this. If you've got nothing to hide, what's the problem? What's the big deal? But at the same time, you don't want to capitulate to the federal government because states were in elections. Yeah. So I get it. Yeah. I get the position of the Secretary of State. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is calling for the Justice Department to investigate major oil companies. He's accusing them of keeping gasoline prices artificially high despite the sharp drop in crude oil, which fell below $70 a barrel yesterday. He argues that this should be translating into lower prices of the pump in a social media post on True Social. The president said consumers are being gouged and demanded immediate action gas prices. needed to come down, and they have come down. They have. I mean, I'm still seeing, I've seen them fall below $4 a gallon in my area, almost to like $4.70, excuse me. This morning I saw them at 419. So there's these wild jumps where I'm at, and they are still elevated from where they were at this time last year. But again, I don't think it's... quite like flipping a switch. Now, this gas station over by the airport? The $5 gas station? Yeah. Yeah. There's something funny there. Yeah. It was over five bucks, wasn't it? Oh, yes. Oh, absolutely. 524 or something like that. That's crazy.

I mean, that is not. Nobody around the area is doing that. No. So something's wrong there. Yeah, it's an issue. I mean, and usually the gas stations want the cheapest gas to get you to come and buy gas and hopefully go into that store because that's where they make the money. Correct. Correct. So he wants an investigation into these gas stations. The Detroit Pistons highly active on day two of the NBA draft, pulling off multiple trades to reshape their front court in a late-night move. Detroit traded. Cash to the New York Knicks to acquire the 53rd overall pick, using it to select seven-foot center Uganda-Oyenzo from Virginia, the 21-year-old REMProtector. Average nearly three blocks a game last season for the Cavaliers. Earlier in the evening, the Pistons dealt Big Man Isaiah Stewart to the Memphis Grizzlies in exchange for three second-round draft picks. These moves cap off a busy cycle for the Pistons, which also traded up on Tuesday night to select Sanford's Ubuka Okuri with... the 17th overall pick. So they've been busy, man. I saw a report yesterday that I found to be, it made my stomach turn. Okay. And it's not something I believe this team needs. Okay. I saw a report from a, and I'm sorry, I don't remember who the reporter was. I think it was an ESPN reporter. Okay. That the Pistons are going big game hunting. They want a big name. They want a star. I heard something about they were trying to get a Laker. Oh, yes, yes. They were trying to get Austin Reeves. He's signing a massive max deal, four-year max deal. Like $185 million or something like that. And he was undrafted. This is the highest salary ever for an undrafted player, which is a great story. It is. But I saw a tie-in. I saw Kauai Leonard, which no thank you. What? And ready for this? Buckle up. LeBron James. Get out of here, man. Stop it. Stop it. Now, unless we're getting Guy Benson medical supply to... The sponsor to be one of the sponsor. The sponsor on the jersey so this guy can have a walker out there. I don't need the... What are they trying to do to us? Right, I'm trying to win a championship. I don't need the... LeBron James's dead weight running around the court. I've heard reports that are going after Miami's Tyler Hero. Yeah, I heard that too. Well, but he just got Delta Milwaukee in that trade. Yeah. In the Yonis trade. Oh, he did? Okay. Yeah, but I had heard about that. Yeah. So I'm, I'm okay. I don't need LeBron or Quay Leonard. No. Quillan can't stay healthy. But I, yeah. All those, all those old man walkers you could sell with the pistons. Right. Could you imagine the giveaways down there? Oh, dude. The giveaways will be crazy. LeBron knee ointment. Shout out to Binsons. No offense to Binsis. No. Would they be thinking of having someone like LeBron just to sell tickets? Because if you bring them here, then they can put butts and seats very easily. But they're doing that now just because how good they are. No, I mean, it would be a different level. It will be. If they signed LeBron James, it would be. Well, you got people. You have people coming from everywhere. It wouldn't just be here. You know, he's on the very tail end. of his career yeah i mean this next stop could be his last stop true so instead of walking down into the lower bowl they could use those chairs like you get on your stairs and you can just ride down man lebron's old hasn't his son been in the league for 10 years already oh my god you guys are horrible this morning okay uh also i went to the tiger game last night uh-huh do we have an issue with therick scoble here

All of that goes at risk. And we should use every bit of leverage for some tough negotiating with our Canadian friends as we can. They might not care if they have an auto industry in 10 years. I do. If Canada refuses to change its policies, would you still support opening the bridge or should it remain closed until an agreement is reached? Well, I mean, never say never. I would go have a pretty tough negotiation between now and then. And here's the good news. People forget. The people that own the other bridge are paying taxes. So once that bridge probably is either diminished or whatever, that tax base goes away. Canadians are not paying the United States any taxes. I'll guarantee you that. So I'm not too worried about the length of this thing. I am worried about the consequence. If it weren't so dire... of what could happen to automobile jobs here in the state of Michigan, then you can play, you know, gee whiz. But this is, again, probably the biggest threat we have to our ability to produce cars and keep these auto jobs here in Michigan. So the USMCA, there's a broader issue here too. It is going to expire in 2036. So 10 years from now, it will expire. But there is supposed to be a joint review on July 1st in just a few days that mandates all three companies get together to talk about this agreement, and they're going to review this. Do you think they're going to be able to make headway in those conversations on the bridge? I don't know if that's going to be the... sole focus of it. I mean, obviously that bridge is of little of Mexico's concern. Sure. But when you look, I think we have to step back for a minute. If we have this bridge open two months, three months, six months later, and we win a significant concession from Canada about these Chinese cars, that's significant for auto workers right here in the state and keeping their jobs. That's worth having a little scuffle over it. You know, we can't just continue to give this stuff away. You know, just in the last decade, we've lost 40,000 manufacturing jobs here in Michigan. Those are middle-class jobs. They're gone. And by the way, happened to be under the Democrats in Lansing and for 32 years, two Democrats in the United States Senate. I mean, that's why this is such an important change election. We have got to fight for every... single job here because the Chinese would love nothing more than to have only customers here in the United States that don't build anything and it's what we've seen the consequences of this we've seen the consequences of the Democrats raising our utility rates or raising the cost of doing business here we've seen the consequences of that we're living it right now and why we wouldn't use this

as an opportunity to get this done. It is no money out of our pocket having that bridge closed for another six months. Matter of fact, I argue that the other bridge pays taxes as we discussed. So let's use this as an opportunity to get this right. If not, how many more jobs are you willing to ship out of the state of Michigan? I don't know about you guys. I'm not willing to do that anymore. We need to get Michigan back up off of her knees and growing again and being the envy of the country when it comes to... high-end manufacturing. We have 30 seconds left here. Obviously, you're fighting for this open U.S. sentencing being vacated by Gary Peters. Are you looking at the trends? How are things looking on your end? We're looking great. I mean, people know this is a change election. We just talked about it. 32 years of the same party representing Michigan, you know, we've lost air bases, we've lost the main battle tank production, we've lost tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Our energy rates are too high. People are looking to move. Your kids are looking to move south. We've got to change all that, and people know it. And we have solutions. If you go to Rogers for Senate.com, we have solutions for all of this. including getting our kids educated again. So we're feeling great. Our polls are showing that we're beating all three of the Democrats that are getting more radical, more crazy. And you know what? This is going to be common sense versus crazy. Mike Rogers, we appreciate your time as always. Thank you. We'll talk soon. Thanks, guys. Yeah, you got it. Coming up on the other side, tech stocks are slumping. What does that mean? Chris Alberta joins us to break it down. It's chair morning. So interesting earlier this week, shares of artificial intelligence chipmakers had plunged all around the world. They certainly pulled down major stock indexes. There was a renewed, a renewed batch of scrutiny on the AI industry, like semiconductors, micron sandisks saw shares tumble more than 10% in afternoon trading. Dividea saw a 3% value drop. earlier in the week as well. The NASDAQ decline 1.4% on Tuesday. The S&P 500 fell nearly 1%. The South Korean benchmark fell 10% as well. So these numbers are shocking for a market that many assume is being held up by the tech industry. So what does it mean? Chris Alberta, the CEO of Principium Tactical Wealth Management, joins us this morning to talk about it. Chris, good morning. It's good to have you back, my friend. Good morning, boys. It's funny, isn't it, how the impetus for that, this conversation really was based on a couple pieces that are now fake news. That's why we wanted to talk with you about it. So what exactly is going on here? Well, look, the rudimentary part, which is pretty interesting, is you've got to remember the basics. Everything that inhales has to exhale, and big, big inhales lead to big exhales. So the major mover here that was talked about the most is Micron. They make cats that are the AI environment is rather dependent on. Micron is up 270% year to date.

So he had $10,000 in Micron on January 1st. You're roughly around 27 grand today. This is not uncommon. Something that's up 270, pulling back 13% in a weird, wacky day, which also aligns with earnings. Let's talk about that in a second, is not uncommon. So these prognosticators that go out and write these articles, I saw the one from Axios, for example, that you guys sent over. They're all looking to be right. I mean, that's what they hang their hat on. They're not too dissimilar, frankly, to like a movie critic sitting in an apartment in New York City with their, you know, with their incense burning. So if you look at that scenario and say, why does that happen? It happens because people get pessimistic about earnings reports. Earnings reports come out in many cases quarterly. And the idea is that that company needs now to show books, so to speak, are we selling enough chips in this case to justify the excitement? Because if you're not selling chips, you're not making money. And if you're not making money, you can't turn around and please your investors. So if there is any kind of cynicism or pessimism, around the earnings being poorer than expected, some people will sell off some or most or all of their positions because they're already done so good for the year. They're like, hey, in case this earnings report is crappy, I want to seal up my gains. This is not uncommon. So, of course, it drops 13%. And the very next day, the earnings report comes out surpassing expectations and it jumps right back up to where it was. Oh. It's just like you look at Aqueweather and there's supposed to be a horrendous thunderstorm, and then you watch outside nothing happens. So it's not a call that the AI run is over. There was just a little bit of a bump in the road. But if I'm up 270%, it falls 13 and I'm still up 250 in change, I'm pretty okay with that. So for investors who've done very well in AI stocks over the past year, is it now time to take some profits and rebalance? Well, that's up to them. Because, again, it depends Lloyd on investor behavior, their age, their risk tolerance. Are they still working? Can they afford to have a really big series of jagged edges? But I think that the last year or so at a minimum has proved that the AI thing is going nowhere. It's going to continue to grow. And that doesn't mean that you're not going to have large exhales along the way. We talked now, what, two or three times the three of us, just about SpaceX. Right. SpaceX is an epicenter of a lot of this kind of stuff, and they just raise the better part of $100 billion for new projects in the AI space. Clearly, it's not going away. Well, and I think to your point depends on where you're at, where you're at in your life. If you feel like if you're up 250 and you want to cash out for millions of dollars because you don't want to play the game anymore, God bless. It's probably a great time for it. But I think the analogy of the large exhale and the large inhale, large exhale makes a lot of sense.

because you can't have a large inhale and a small exhale. You can't just hold on to it. Right, you don't have the lung capacity for it. So it's very similar here. The bumps in the road, though, I mean, they are significant. So if you don't hold a mass amount of stock in the tech industry, then you might feel it a little more. But again, the rebound's been pretty quick. Yeah, and that's, you know, modern investors, too, you know, have the, we have the blessing, if you will, of having, you know, exchange traded funds, ETFs that are a perfect mirror image of specific index. So, for example, all of these tech companies, not all of them, the majority of them, they're traded on NASDAQ, for example. I mean, there's a great many people at this point who just own the NASDAQ. They don't own Micron individually. They don't own, for example, Nvidia individually. They may, but if they're doing that, they're typically doing it with a fraction of the portfolio. But, you know, it's a high tide races all boats type of thing. If you own the NASDAQ, you've experienced some of the gain of something like Micron up 270% and many others. But you're not then, you're diluting the total return that you could have had, but you're also spreading that risk across thousands of stock positions. which is the whole point of internal diversification. So there's more than one way to skin a cat. I mean, the fact that somebody might have a position in Micron individually and had a day where they looked and I mean, oh, man, I was up like crazy and now I'm back a little bit. On the overall, there's still way, way up. And that's the big picture that everyone has to grasp. Same thing with the S&P 500. Chris, when you look past the daily headlines and the stock market swings, what should investors really be kind of paying attention to when it comes to AI in their financial future? I mean, I think that this is one of those times where the cliche absolutely fits. I mean, if you have all your eggs in that particular basket, I mean, you're going to have some crackage at some point. I'm going to get yolk on your fingers. There's just no two ways about it. But again, that's why, you know, the broad diversification for most people's portfolios mean that AI is such a powerful force. In fact, it's probably the most powerful force we've seen in a long, long, long time. It's propping up the major markets almost independently. Healthcare is doing okay, but tech is killing it. So if you're an individual investor and you're saying to yourself, look, I'm, you know, still 10, 15 years worth of work left and I'm in my 401k. And every time I get paid, I'm putting new money into the market. It's good to be able to dollar cost average that money and across all of those sectors. And if they're leaning a little bit more heavily into the tech, which right now makes the most sense, they've probably done very, very well.

But long term, most everybody needs to remember that, you know, if they act wealthy, they tend to end up wealthy. I mean, we kind of become what we think about most when it comes to investing. And that requires having the majority of your portfolio, being in foot soldier territory, just marching steadily ahead. And if you have some home run type stuff in your portfolio and occasionally hits a grand slam, great. But if you sit there and swing the bat at every single pitch, eventually you have strikeouts too. So really it just comes down to basic old school diversification and being kind of sound of mind when it comes to not risking something you can't live without. Were you watching the Tigers last night? Is that where that baseball analogy came from? No, but I went to the Tigers game the other day, and I watched seven innings with no hits, and I was beating in the sun, and I thought, why the hell am I? So that's where it came from. Okay. And that's why you need experts like Chris Alberta to break it down. We appreciate it as always. Thank you. Gotcha, fellas. See you got it. We'll talk soon. Coming up on the other side, the battle for affordability. And Republicans are trending in a tough direction right now based on national trends that we're seeing. Yeah. Can they ease the cost of living, truly? Prior to the midterms. Somebody has a plan. We'll talk about it. It's coming up on Jamoy. All right, here's your chance to win a trip to see two country superstars and Jason Aldeen and Luke Bryan in Vegas. Double the hits, one unforgettable night. We've got your flights, hotel and concert tickets covered the double down tour. Aldine and Brian co-headlining with special guest John Pardee and Chase Matthews, all live under the neon lights prize provided by BBR Music Group. Texas Hours National Keyword Town. to 95819. That's T-O-W-N. We'll text you back to confirm your entry. Data and messaging rates may apply. Please don't text and drive. Official rules and more info is at WJR.com. I don't listen to them very often. Okay. But they are wildly popular and talented. They are really, really good. It's going to be a fun show. Meanwhile, this idea of... affordability has been a major issue for the American public. It was certainly a flashpoint in the 2024 election. Unfortunately, we haven't seen costs come down the way that I think many people would like. Yeah. And that's across almost everything in life. It's across affordable housing. It's across gas prices and grocery prices, all of those things. Everything seems to be just more expensive. And it's having an impact on a lot of folks. So what can be done? from a Republican perspective before the midterms to try to turn the dial more towards their favor. Ken Davis is a former finance executive for Fortune 500 companies. He's the former deputy attorney general for this great state of Virginia and joins us this morning. Ken, it's great to have you.

Good morning. It's great to be on your wonderful program. Thank you. Well, let's talk a little bit about what Republicans can do because, you know, based on what we've seen, despite the internal struggles of the Democratic Party, there are, the trends seem to be pointing their way once we hit November. So if affordability is the major issue, or one of the top three issues call it, how do Republicans write the ship on that front? Well, as you point out, prices of a lot of things. Gas is coming down, but it's still higher than people would like it to be, groceries. Things are high. Now, one of the major expenses economic burdens for people is tax, tax at the federal level and state level. And at the federal level, it's a tremendous burden. And there's a problem with the federal tax code, an unfairness, an unnecessary economic burden that's been in place for years that the Republicans could address with a reconciliation package. There is some talk about a third reconciliation package. And for that to pass, they just need a majority, and they have a slim majority in both houses, that they are in great danger of losing unless they address affordability. And they could do this by focusing on the income tax and specifically paycheck withholding. That's a basic feature of the income taxes that we all pay. It's been in place since the Second World War, and it takes a lot of money out of paychecks over the course of a year. Most income taxes, in fact, are withheld from paychecks and sent to the government. through the course of the year months ahead of April 15th the following year. Interesting. And it's about $2.6 trillion is taken out of your pay, well, not your paycheck. I was going to say that. Don't give away the goods, Ken. Yours and mine and all the paychecks in America. And we get no compensation. no interest for the, essentially the loans that we are advancing, the advance payments that we are making to the government. And you know, if a bank held your money for months without paying interest, most people would have a fit. But, you know, why has this, you know, practice largely escaped public debate? Well, you know, it's one small step at a time, one incremental change by the government for the government's favor at a time. When the income tax was first put into effect in 1913, there was no withholding. And, oh, by the way, rates were really low. It was about...

1% of flat rate that because of many, many exemptions that were also included in the first package, only about 2% of American households were covered by the income tax. So it started small, and the people who were covered made their payment. on April the 15th each year when they filed their returns, their 1040s. Well, it is an interesting perspective because you probably, I mean, there would be at some point a start date for something like this, but you would see an immediate... influx of cash into your pocket if you're not paying that particular tax. So it would be a way to show the American people quickly that they're putting more money in their pockets. It really interesting perspective outside the box thinking, Ken Davis, unfortunately we got to run, but we appreciate your time. We hope to talk with you again very soon. Thank you. Yeah, you got it. Wow. Well, you know, out the box, thinking of different ways. I appreciate that. Yeah. 7 o'clock hour coming up. We've got some data centers, the whipping boy for AI. It's all coming up on Jermort. 7.05 here on a Thursday. Boy, it's already Thursday. It is already Thursday. Yay! Yeah, that's right. Play it. It's Thursday. We love it. Friday Eve. Friday Eve, exactly. Excuse me. Boy, this Terry and Arnold story crazy. He was arrested yesterday in Florida facing four counts of kidnapping, four counts of armed robbery tied to this incident in the greater Tampa area earlier this year. If he's... convicted on all these charges. Yeah. A potential life sentence for Lions cornerback, Terry and Arnold. He'll be in court today for a conference in front of the judge. And, you know, they want to keep him locked up until the trial. that's going to be an issue right there for him, you know, missing training camp and all of that, you know, so I don't know what they're going to have to do to try to get him out on some type of bond, but they're going to try today. So authorities say Arnold was involved in this plan targeting three men. He suspected of stealing valuables from an Airbnb he was renting, like $100,000 in cash. an $80,000 necklace, designer goods and personal items. And there have been other people that have been arrested in this incident as well. And they're saying that he's the primary guy in all of this. And he helped organize and direct the setup. He was a part of the group chat organizing the plan.

And was apparently watching the attack via live stream before these people showed up. So he was like posting out essentially and waiting for them. And. Yeah, six other people have been arrested for this. Supposedly there are text messages as well. You know, would everybody kind of like group text messaging and all of that? So yeah, it's a, it's going to be an uphill battle for. And the lions are just saying, you know, we know about it. Yep. We don't have much to say about it. No, and of course they're not going to. No. Or should they, quite frankly. But no, they're not going to say anything about this just yet. You know, a kid with a lot of promise. I mean, is just, I mean, now this is a whole different ball game for him. It could just, his life could just be done. I mean, you know, having taken, if he gets convicted and, you know, life in prison for a young man like that, yeah, it's a shame. The Pistons were active yesterday. In the NBA draft, they pulled off the brakes to reshape their front court in the late night move. Detroit traded cash to the New York next to acquire the 53rd overall pick, using it to select seven-foot center, Uganda-Oyezzo, from Virginia. The 21-year-old center, average nearly three blocks again last season for the Cavaliers. Earlier in the evening, the Pistons, as you know, dealt Big Man Isaiah Stewart to the Memphis Grizzlies in exchange for second-round draft picks. And the move caps off that busy draft cycle for this. Pistons, which also traded up on Tuesday night, as you know, selecting Stanford's Ubuka Okori with the 17th overall pick. Yeah, and now there's these reports that the Pistons could potentially be going after a big name, going after a big star, a big player, somebody that could come in and help this team right away. I mean, I've seen Kwai Leonard, I've seen LeBron James. I'm good on both of them. No, thank you. Papa. Really quickly, though, not for nothing. LeBron James is a big Ohio state fan. I'm not even sure that he'd want to play in the state of Michigan. No, you know, I would think he's that loyal to the state of Ohio. I'm serious. I don't know that he really would. I think. That's how deep that rivalry goes. Before he would come here, I think he would try to go to New York. The Knicks? Yeah. I mean, that's, I mean, because the Lakers are showtime. The Knicks is Showtime. You know what I mean? Big, you know, big lights, bright city, stars, all of that. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, if he's going to do, let's just say he's going to do one more year and be done. Right. I think, you know, the Knicks are the champions. He would try to go there and get another ring and. Only free up a little more cap space with the beef, the stew trade. It would. Interesting enough. I was at the Tiger game last night, and Terrick Scoobel was on the bump. They lose four to two. But he did not have a great night. And then at one point, it looked like he got injured. The training staff came out and looked at him. He threw a couple of warm-up pitches, says he was okay. Here's AJ Hins on Terrick Scoobal's night. Yeah, the homers, you know, what do you think he gave up four hits, three of them were homers.

And I think they were different pitches too. I mean, Goldie's had some success against him. He's at the ball out of the ballpark. And then I think the change up middle, middle to Dominguez, you know, was a tough blow for him. But, you know, I thought he looked great. He was aggressive. You know, I thought early he sprayed it just a little bit. And then he locked things in and started punching guys out. His pitch count was low. You know, he was starting to get that swagger in the game that we know and love. You know, they just burned them with the hits they did get were, you know, left the ballpark. And that's very unusual. But they did their part. Yeah. Yeah, certainly. And Scoopal said his stuff has been good, but, you know, six home runs and three starts is not ideal. My stuff has been pretty good, you know, in terms of the stuff coming out of my hand and what I'm looking at and kind of what I monitor, you know, and how I hold myself accountable. I've kind of been checking all those boxes. It's just the results haven't been there. And it's tough. You know, this game will beat you up if you let it. But like I said earlier, results are kind of what matters right now. You know, getting zeros, getting our team in the dugout, giving our team a chance to win. That's what matters. And I just haven't been able to do that. So they lose the series to the Yankees. But on the bright side, yeah, he did give up only four hits, three left of yard, no walks. He rarely ever walks anybody. He's so mad when he walks people. No, he does. His ball to strike ratio is still very, very good. Yeah. There's no doubt about that. We were playing them again. Yeah, he's got him next week at Yankee Stadium. Yeah, Yankee Stadium. All right. If you know. where Eminem's ex-wife is. You might want to just call the McComb County Prosecues office. Well, the real Kim Mathers, please stand up? She didn't show up for a sentencing hearing yesterday. She was supposed to be sentenced for that February hit and run. She didn't show up. So now there's a bench warrant out for her and they're looking. So if you know where she is, just, you know, give the Combe County Prosecutor's office a call. Pete Lacedo. Call Pete Lacito. Call Pete. Call Pete. Okay. Very good. 712. Time for W.JR's business. Be brought you by shelving.com. We rack your world. Here's Jeff Sloan, the founder and CEO of Startup Nation, a spotlight entrepreneurial tech and startup community on WJR. Good morning. Who's visiting web pages these days? Well, humans are, of course, right? Well, hold on. As reported by Morning Brew, we have news that now... Bots make up 58% of all worldwide traffic to web pages. That, according to data compiled by the network security provider, Cloudflare. Human generated traffic, meanwhile, accounted for only 42%. Matthew Prince, Cloud Fair co-founder and CEO wrote on X, and I'm quoting, well, that happened faster than predicted. Agenic traffic is growing so fast that bots have now passed human traffic online.

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And, you know, you kind of hit the nail on the head here. He's facing some serious consequences. Even a mandatory minimum of 10 to 20 up to life. So what, but the key to the government is, is that you have a motive and you got a timeline. And then you put the icing on top of it. You have contemporaneous. communications going on, allegedly, from his cell phone. So you got a guy that Arnold reports, he's got about $250,000 missing, what, on February 3rd, on February 4th, just hours after, you know, the narrative basically is, is the retaliation, and they get three victims. And from, you know, alleged to have been involved in this feeling of his goods. Top that with the knowledge that he's talking about something, right? Because you've got a group chat, authenticating, you know, basically saying, hey, listen, this is what we got to do. So I think it's... You don't charge cases like this, guys. You don't charge cases like this one as a prosecutor. I'd always look at it from the standpoint. Not probable cause. I'd look at it from the standpoint of charging something this serious. I want to be able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. I act like I'm the prosecutor that's going to try the case, not the one that's just signing the warrant. So, you know, I want to leave my colleagues in a position where I'm not giving them a bad case. So, you know, they have, I would imagine, quite a bit of evidence to go with. Todd, the state attorney wants Arnold kept in jail until trial, there's a pretrial detention hearing this afternoon. What does the defense have to show to get him out on bond? Great question, Lloyd. So two things. And Florida has the same bond hearing. that we have here in Michigan and the same standards. There's two things that the defense, since one of the few times defense has a burden, only two times they do in criminal law, but the burden for the defense is simply this. he has to show that he's not a threat to the community and that he's not a flight risk, right? We have to be able to show that, you know, he's going to have obviously a magnifying glass on him wherever he goes if he were let out on a bond, right? It would be a celebrity person, so he's not going to be able to basically, you know, get out of the United States. He's going to have a passport issue. He's going to have, you know, cameras following him everywhere. So we have to show that he's going to be able to return. They want to keep them because they say, hey, listen, this is a mandatory minimum charge 10 years. And it's the second prong of this. It's a serious threat to our community. And he could be a flight risk. He could go to a country that doesn't have extradition. He could go to some place.

with private jets and the money he may have. Yeah. Right? So he might be a flight risk. That's one, two. This is a serious, I mean, guns involved, you know, this is a serious crime. What's the threat to the community at large? If it was regular Joe, you know, six-pack on the street, there's not going to be a bond given that's very light. We have a right to bond. But at the end of the day, here, you know, he's. alleged to have committed a polonious assault, a robbery, guns involved kidnapping. Those are all really serious in the penalty for which, and get this, the kidnapping and the armed robbery, they're consecutive sentences. So he would have one sentence of found guilty to delete that, and then he'd have to do the next one. So it's a serious. serious charge. So getting out on bond, is he a flight risk? One, two, is he a threat to the community. That's what the judge is going to look at. Defense is going to have to show that he's not a flight risk. We've had those cases before here in the city of Detroit where we've had high-profile people. We've shown, hey, the judge, look at you got a camera in the courtroom. You've got five cameras outside waiting to see him. So everyone's going to be following this guy. He's not a flight risk. He's going to be like a magnifying glass. That's what I'd argue. Two, you know, you get, I'd argue, hey, listen, you know, that. The fact of the matter is is that if you were to violate your bond, if you were to violate your bond, it would be a compelling reason, if ever found guilty, that you could have a substantial compelling reason to sentence them over the guidelines of that base minimum. So, you know, he'd have to be a cherub, that being an angel, right? So he'd have to be, you know, an idiot to violate your bond, Judge. You've got a big stickover set. That's what I'd argue as a defense attorney. As the prosecutor, I'd be arguing, are you out of your mind? He, you know, the likelihood of this guy's conviction is high. And two, we got to, you know, the fact that he's going to be going to prison because of this. So that's what I'd be arguing. He doesn't have a past criminal history. Does that play here? Absolutely. It does. You know, he's, he's, it doesn't have any kind of back record. He's been, you know, a good name in the community. He's got family and friends. He's has close ties, things of those sorts. You know, you'd argue those things to show that he's an upstanding person. And you'd get character references and character letters and people that know him. to attest, you know, in a bond motion, I would attach all those exhibits and letters to my bond motion to say, hey, listen, look at all these people. This is definitely not him. You got the wrong guy. Yeah. Interesting stuff. Todd, we appreciate you hopping on with us this morning. Thank you. We'll talk again soon. Thanks, guys. Yep, you got it. That's Todd Flood at the Flood Law. And make sure you listen every third Wednesday here on WJR, third Wednesday of the month, behind the bench with Todd Flood at 7 o'clock here on WJR. Great legal analysis. Absolutely, because it's, you know, they want to hold him until trial and the defense. They have an uphill battle to try to get the judge to go another way and give him a bond and let him out. If not, if he's in to the trial,

All of the camp and all of that is out the window. Lloyd, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how you roll around with $100,000 cash. I don't know how you roll around with an $80,000 necklace. I don't understand any of that. No, I don't either. Was it Chad Johnson? Chad Johnson said that none of his jewelry is real. It's all fake. Uh-huh, right. Because why are you rolling around with $100,000 on your neck? I just don't. It's crazy to me. Well, I mean, look. And if you're worth, you know, $14 million. Look at Floyd Mayweather. Here's a backpack where, like, stacks of $100 bills. He's counting them on the Florida freaking basketball arena. We're talking Taylor Swift and Oprah. Next, it's J.R. Morning. All right. I do want to issue a bit of a statement before we get into these next topics. Okay. I can only speak for me. I cannot speak for you. If you would like to issue something similar, you may. I am not Taylor Swift's demographic. I'm not either. I am not her target audience. Okay. I am a bit more the target audience of Travis Kelsey. Okay. But I honestly. really couldn't possibly care less about Taylor Swift, their engagement, their wedding, it doesn't matter to me. But, you know, it's just like a lot of these other major stars who've been married and they try to get married in secret places and you got drones and helicopters flying over mountains and stuff. It's just crazy. But like you do you. Yeah. This is your business. Exactly. It's not my business. This is your business. This is your life. I don't care. That's right. It's not affecting me one way or another. But I will tell you, these swifties, could we divert their attention to Nancy Guthrie? Absolutely. Right. Anybody want to help negotiate with Iran? Yeah. Because you people out there are sleuths. They are. For real, for real, yes. It is amazing what these people go through. And Taylor Swift eggs them on. She puts out these little things and people go, oh, I've got to put my detective glasses on and get my notepad out. And here I am. She's a master marketer. No, she is the marketer. There is nobody better in history at marketing than Taylor Swift. She is great. And her team. Yes. But this wedding that's coming up, apparently coming up, in just a few days. Okay. at Madison Square Garden. Now, again, I cannot speak for Taylor Swift. I don't know the woman. But it seems like she is, it seems to me that she is into more of like a, you know, quaint, like wants to do her own thing. Her life's pretty private for the most part. She doesn't, you know, share a lot of, I mean, I don't know, about that side of herself. Yeah. But this rumor was flying around that she and Travis Kelsey were going to get married at Madison Square Garden. Right. And there's these, I think there are like podcasts dedicated to Taylor Swift. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. But these people are like, oh, this is crazy. She would never get married at a big cavernous arena. That's not her style. Blah, blah, blah. Well, now this.

This rumor seems to have materialized even further because TMZ is reporting that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey would be wed at Madison Square Garden Friday, July 3rd. They've invited more than a thousand guests. They've spent millions of dollars to rent out this area. Page 6 published their own exclusive. Anonymous sources saying that MSG was indeed the plan, especially because the pair's priority was privacy and they were considering using buses with blacked out windows to transport attendees. I imagine there would be some pretty famous folks there. And the New York Times has published evidence that a permit was filed to close the streets around Madison Square Garden on July 3rd. according to a city official. So like this is happening. My, my, here's my question. People were angry that Donald Trump was going to the Knicks game. Yeah. A Knicks finals game. Yes. And all of the extra security streets closed around Madison Square Garden. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? So all I'm asking for is the same outrage for Taylor Swift getting married at Madison Square Garden having to close streets around the arena so that her and 1,000 people can watch them get married. Well, let me tell you, you know, whoever says some negative stuff about it, the Swifties will jump on them. I don't care. I don't care. You say whatever you need to. Chris.runwick at cumulus.com is my email. You can send all, Taylor Swift hate mail there. I'm typing right now. I know you are. Am I crazy? No. Am I living in bizarro world? What is this? It's crazy. You know, I think it's all part of the marketing as well. This will end up on a, you know, pay-per-view for concert or some Netflix or something. The wedding. Of Taylor Swift. Come. All right. Let's clip this. Put it on social media. I want Taylor Swift to see it. I need her to respond. I want a very small.08590957, Taylor. I'm going to have a very small, intimate wedding. At Madison Square Garden and close it down. Tickets are only $1,200 a piece. Right. There will be T-shirts and the lobby for you. Of course. The wedding. Yes. That's why it's all like, this is all the con job. I'm telling you, man. It's marketing. Master marketer. Yes. That's what she's doing. Okay. So Oprah went free was in Cairns. And doing an interview. The film festival? Yes. Okay. Doing an interview with a reporter on a stage. And for some reason they got on the subject of Whitney Houston. Who died 14 years ago. Exactly. Got it. And so she said when Whitney last came to her show that Whitney was high. And she fell off the stage. And there were people in the audience who had cameras. This is the Oprah Winfrey show? The Oprah Winfrey show. Okay. And I remember watching the show and you can pull it up on YouTube right now. Watch that show. And said she was high and that she fell off the stage and that the audience was there and they had cameras. And Oprah said she told her audience, please, do not take pictures.

Do not do that and put this out there because this would ruin her life. This would ruin Whitney's life. So don't do it. And please don't do it. And she said, nobody did it. Never came out. But she just decided to tell it, I guess, in Cannes with this interview. I don't know why she decided now 14 years later. But, okay. Is there a Whitney Houston documentary movie coming out? No. Okay. No. So now the family has responded and said, oh, wait a minute, Oprah. Wait a minute. We know Whitney had issues, and we knew she, you know, did drugs. But she was not under the influence on your show. And yes, she did fall, but she fell during dress rehearsal. And it was poor lighting on the stage, and she stepped wrong and fell off the stage. It had nothing to do with her being high. And so you got that wrong, and we don't like it. And you need to retract that. Well, Oprah hasn't said anything yet. Now, Whitney's bodyguard has come up who's with her all the time. He was the guy who. Kevin Koznor. No, not that guy. Oh. But he was the guy who found her body when she passed away. He was the first guy to find her, her bodyguard. He said no. Whitney had issues and she had done drugs before and she had been on drugs, but she was clean and she was clean there and she stepped wrong because it was poor lighting and she fell during dress rehearsal. And so the family is saying, listen, we know. We know she had issues with drugs, but not everything that happened to Whitney Houston had something to do with drugs. Why? Why? What is the purpose of all this now? I don't know why Oprah brought it up in the first place. I don't know, you know, and why she decided to tell this story 14 years later. I don't know what... made her want to talk about that. I'll be honest. I don't look at Oprah the same way as probably most people do. No, and my son and my kids don't either. I'm 37. Yeah. Like my memory of Oprah is, you're in the car!

And you get a car! And that was the back... That's my memory of Oprah. Which is the back end of Oprah. Right. The front end of Oprah. It was the caricature of Oprah. Yes. Like Oprah, I mean, obviously is a mogul. She's incredible. Sure, she's a billionaire. She built an absolute behemoth of a brand. Yes. But like, I don't... I don't really care what Oprah has to say. If Whitney Houston fell off the stage, then I guess she fell off the stage. I don't know. Whether she was on drugs or not. Yeah. Whitney Houston is the greatest female vocalist of all time in my mind. I agree. So like, I don't know what that has to do with the price of tea in China. People. You know, people respect Oprah. And yeah, the latter part of Oprah is that you got a car, you got a car, you get a car, you get a car. But the first, the front half of Oprah is the woman who came after Phil Donahue, who was the man who basically started all of this talk show stuff. And Phil was the man. Phil was the man. Then Oprah came along and was kind of like the female version of Phil Donahue. Sure. And then it kind of turned into other things. And then, you know, you get the, you get a car, you get a car, you get all these other. shows where people are fighting and it just it got crazy after that but it didn't start that way and Oprah got her respect I think on the front end and you know it kind of went south on the back end it's wild that she would just bring this up it is nobody knows why and nobody's heard from Oprah like oh oh now she's just nobody heard radio silence from Oprah now and you know Oprah likes to talk but She's not saying anything about this. She just came in, dropped a bomb and left. Yep, that's it. Okay. Thanks, Oprah. Appreciate that. Our data center is the new whipping boy of AI. We're talking about that next. It's Chair Morning. All right, so the debate on data centers continues, certainly here in the state of Michigan. Yes. Whether or not they should be built here, whether or not they're good for communities, tax bases, property taxes, things like that. Water, electric, all that. Yes, yes, certainly the utility side of things, absolutely. And we've seen other states take a different approach, states like Ohio, where there are dozens and dozens and dozens of these things all over the place. And now they've taken. To the point they're kind of slowing down a little bit, right? Yeah, which makes sense. I mean, what, they have somewhere near 100? data centers already built. So obviously each state is going to take a different approach and everybody's going to have their own set of concerns and whatnot. But there is still this consternation around artificial intelligence as well. And are these two things connected? Are they joined at the hip? Data centers and artificial intelligence when it comes to public perspective. Ben Geeman is the energy reporter Axios and joins us once again this morning. Ben, it's good to have you back. Good morning. Thanks so much for having me. Well, let's talk about the correlation here. Obviously, to scale up the next iteration of what artificial intelligence is, they need these data centers, these massive intelligence hubs that are going to be able to power this technology. And with that comes, as Lloyd mentioned, the utilities, the water, the electricity that's going to be needed to power these facilities. How are, how is both the data centers influencing artificial intelligence and vice versa when it comes to public opinion?

Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head because certainly there's a lot of public consternation about whether or not AI is going to be ultimately taking a lot of jobs. So I really don't think that can be untethered from a lot of these concerns that we're seeing about data centers. And this has risen high up on the political and policy radar really quickly. I mean, all reporting and reporting by a lot of other shows that. public polling is finding that there is widespread opposition to these things and often opposition among people who don't even necessarily live that close to these facilities. And I think you're sort of seeing a couple of different kind of camps emerge among policymakers, right? I mean, one thing that just happened yesterday was that a pretty prominent lawmaker, Representative Frank Pallone of New Jersey, a Democrat who is the ranking member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. came out in favor of a nationwide moratorium on new data centers until, you know, until water and electricity bill concerns and other things can be addressed. You know, I think what's sort of closer to the political mainstream, at least for the moment, is sort of, you know, enable these data centers, keep them going, allow them to be built, but with a whole bunch of new safeguards, right? So you recently had a powerful, although somewhat obscure administrative body called the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. telling a lot of big regional grid operators saying, essentially, look, get your act together on making sure that these giant tech companies and data center developers, when they build these things, they're not essentially sticking consumers with the bill, right? So this is ensuring that the tech companies pay the cost of new generation, of new grid upgrades, of new transmission needed, and that kind of thing. And honestly, the big tech companies say that they are fine with that, right? I mean, their goal, right, they've got big bank accounts. And they want a lot of new power and a lot of new computing power ASAP. So I think they are very willing to sort of accept these new conditions. Now, whether that's enough to overcome this public backlash that we're seeing, I think that's a great question. And interestingly, this backlash, I think, is starting to become pretty bipartisan. And, you know, people seem more willing to pause construction than just outright oppose data centers. Does that suggest that, you know, people are just saying, listen, slow down a little bit and explain this to us? I think that's absolutely right. I mean, this is something that has, you know, the AI boom, I think, appeared on the horizon and got a lot closer, you know, pretty quickly, right? I mean, I don't think that many people had heard about the development of these massive new large language models of the chaty BTs and clods of the world. That all happened pretty fast. And I think that's exactly right. Suddenly, you've got a lot of these proposals for... you know, these massive data centers, and these are not, you know, your parents' data centers, right? I mean, data centers have been with us, you know, for a long, long time, decades, right? You know, they're doing everything from processing payments and email and storing photos on the, all these kind of things. But these newer types of facilities, I mean, we're talking about facilities that are, you know, a gigawatt worth of capacity, right? I mean, that's basically enough to power hundreds of thousands of homes. So this is something that is... really new on the horizon, and I think you're absolutely right. I think people are just sort of wanting to understand this a little better. And, you know, I think another thing is that there's a lot of debate right now about whether the fact that people's electricity bills are rising can be attributed to the sort of rise and construction of these and, you know, existence of these new data centers. And honestly, the evidence is really mixed because...

electricity demand in the U.S. has been rising for the first time in a long time. But that's not just because of these data centers. It's for a whole bunch of different reasons, right? And so I think right now what the industry and what regulators are trying to do are sort of trying to better understand and in fact sort of rebut these claims that there's just this one-to-one correlation, right? Like data center shows up, your power bills rise. It's a lot more complicated than that. And in fact, there's a sort of emerging school of thought among some researchers that says, In fact, where you have a lot of more data centers, power bills tend to be rising more slowly, right? Because you can kind of spread the costs of what would have been needed grid upgrades and new transmission across more power buyers and that, you know, basically that these tech companies are willing to pay sort of special rates for their power. So, you know, the link between power, you know, consumers, power bills and data centers is really a little bit fuzzy. And I think that the tech company on the tech companies honestly were a little bit. slow on the draw to sort of push back against this kind of broad public perception that it is their products basically that are driving up power bills. Ben Geeman, really interesting stuff. Thank you for your time. We appreciate it. Let's talk again soon. This isn't going anywhere, is it? Absolutely not. And thank you so much. Yeah, you got it. You got it. It's interesting because those numbers, the numbers are, I mean, they are. wildly opposed. 38% of people said they were supported down their center being built by their home, while 34% say they would oppose it. 49% say they want the moratorium on constructions, while 16%. So it's not like people oppose the idea of them. That's like I said, you know, most of these people, they don't oppose them. They just kind of want you to slow down and explain it to them. But I think Michigan is the perfect example. of what's happening across the country. Now, you do have states like Ohio that have embraced them. Yeah. Michigan's a little different because people either A, are worried about their, worried about how it impacts them, their utility rates or their property taxes. But then they're also worried that they're not being given all the information by these companies. That's right. Fair enough. It's fair critique. Meanwhile, you've got the other side, which is where I tend to fall a little bit more. This idea of do you really want to miss out on this? You really want all the other states to reap the benefits. Because it's happening. It's coming. Michigan's already fallen in a number of really important areas. Now we're going to, you know, thumb our nose at this. I don't know if that's necessarily the way to go. So Michigan is a very interesting model for this. national conversation. Yeah. And I think they're looking at what everybody else is doing and they're trying to, you know, put things in place to make sure that Michigan is covered and prepared. Yeah. When and if these data centers come. John James in the 8 o'clock hour on his big endorsement. It's next. 8 o'clock hour. Good to have you here on a Thursday, as Lloyd says. Friday Eve. Yes. Yay. Just a day away. Day away. It'll be here before you know it. My coffee's almost gone. It's quite sad. Is it? I know you've been getting down with the coffee this morning. Yeah, I've been chugging coffee. Well, I went to the Tiger game last night. I mean, full disclosure, I had a Red Bull. And? And a five-hour movie.

Mixed together. That's my little cocktail. Oh, yes. No, Frank Swinney. Exactly right. Exactly right. It's hard. Look, there's still nothing to beat a baseball game. No. It's just, it's just, it's just, there's something about it. It's just fun, man. But it does stink when, you know, the back-to-back, Cy Young winner gives up three. solo shots to the New York Yankees. You don't want that. And they lose four to two. No, you don't like that. It is a bit of a bummer. And Terek Scoobal, you know, he says the stuff is there, but the results aren't there yet. Just not good enough, you know, put our team in another position where they got to come back and win a ballgame. You know, it's just not good enough. That's kind of how I look at it. Fair. I mean, it's kind of a zero-sum game. I mean, you can pitch really well and still lose, and you got a little solace there. But, I mean, they just couldn't put enough bats on the balls yesterday, and, you know, you lose the game. Yeah. Detroit Lions, a cornerback, Terry, and Arnold in police custody today after turning himself into authorities in Tampa, Florida. Last night, the 23-year-old faces four counts of kidnapping, four counts of armed robbery. Prosecutors alleged Arnold coordinated and directed a group of people to lure, rob, and beat three men in retaliation for a theft at his Airbnb property, about $200,000 worth of merchandise and cash. And convicted, he faces up to life in prison through his representation. Arnold strongly denied the allegations, maintaining his innocence and calling. the evidence unreliable. Now, he'll have a detention hearing later on this afternoon, and I know the prosecution wants him to be held in jail until the trial. His defense was going to want to get him bond. And we talked to Todd Flood earlier, and he said this is what has to be done to try to get him out on bond. But the burden for the defense is simply that... he has to show that he's not a threat to the community and that he's not a flight risk, right? We have to be able to show that, you know, he's going to have obviously a magnifying glass on him wherever he goes if he were let out on a bond, right? It would be a celebrity person, so he's not going to be able to basically get out of the United States. He's going to have a passport issue. He's going to have, you know, cameras following him everywhere. And you can hear that full interview on wjr.com. The Lions issued a statement saying, yeah, we're aware of the situation, but we're not going to comment out of respect for the ongoing legal process. Sure. Donald Trump calling for the Justice Department to investigate major oil companies accusing them of keeping gasoline prices artificially high despite the sharp drop in crude oil prices that we've seen over the last couple of days. And he says that that should be translating to lower prices at the pump. Again, it's not quite like flipping a switch. Yeah. But I think the president's sentiments are right-ish. You know, why are some of these gas stations still up in the mid-fours? Yeah. That is a bit surprising. But again, that's where they're at currently. And he says,

that they need to be bringing down these gas prices immediately. You've got the oil industry representatives saying that gas prices don't fall as quickly as crude due to supply chain and refining factories. And that is obviously plays a factor here too. But he says he needs an investigation into this. The Illage Organization, expanding its gaming footprint with a new venture called Illich Gaming aimed at growing its casino operations beyond the city of Detroit. The company says the new platform will seek to acquire a casino in Mississippi while increasing its ownership stake in Atlantic City's Ocean Casino resort from 50% to full control. Now, if it's approved by regulators, Illich Gaming would eventually oversee three properties. It'll be Detroit's Motor City Casino. the Ocean Casino Resort in New Jersey and the Scarlet Pearl Casino Resort in Mississippi. Illich Company CEO Chris Illich will serve as chair of the new gaming platform calling it a new chapter in the company's hospitality and entertainment business building on nearly 30 years of operation in Detroit. The expansion is still subject to regulatory approval before any deals are finalized. Yeah, interesting. Yeah, you know, so they're branching out. And I thought, well, Chris runs the Tigers. I didn't think he could have anything to do with the casinos. But he can't. He's going to be the chair of the new gaming platform. He'll be the chair. That's different than ownership. Yes. Because Marion Illich is the owner of like Motor City Casino. Yes. Yeah. By the way, if you want to see something absolutely fantastic. Okay. Watch English soccer fans line dancing in Texas. This is the latest from the World Cup. It's my new favorite. These folks have no idea what's happening. God bless them. They're out there trying. But they, some of them have like, you know, cowboy hats on and the whole deal. Yeah. But not a lot of rhythm for the English when it comes to line dancing. I've got to check it out. The storylines for this World Cup have been absolutely fantastic. If it ain't the Scottish drink and the bars dry in Boston, it's, you know. We're going to get drunk before the game. We're going to get drunk during the game and then we get drunk after the game. It's the English fans down in Texas. It's the ranch that these fans are trying to bring back home. I was telling me about that this morning. I was like, you know. You know, they're smuggling ranch back. She was like, what? Like, yeah. I said, I said, maybe, listen, we need some ranch. We just go to TSA at Detroit Metro. Say, listen, can I get a couple of bottles? Because I know you guys have a big container full of ranch. She said, oh, they're taking that home. What are you talking? You're not going to get any. They're going to take it. I saw a couple of guys at the Tiger game last night, wearing the three lions. They're English guys wearing English jerseys. And my guys were in the bag. They're just having a great time. I wanted to ask them, you know, are you guys from around here? Like, you know, and because they were fully decked out in their English soccer. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, did you just make a pit stop? I.

it was hard to have a conversation with them. Put it that way. Okay. Okay. My man had a medello. He was vibed. So I'm like, I don't think this is going to be great research for the show. I don't think I'm going to get great information out of you. Did you see the Swedish fans that showed up at the Cubs game? No, I didn't see them. The Swedish soccer fans were doing the rowing in the crowd. There was a lot of them there. The who? Yes. Yes. During the Cubs game. Is that the, that's not the Swedish fans. That's the, um. Is it the Norwegian fans? Norwegian fans. Yes, the Norwegian fans. They were doing the rowing at the Cubs game. They were doing the rowing and chanting. Yes, they were. Like, this is the loudest baseball game I've ever seen ever on TV. Well, it was the Scottish fans. They went to a Red Sox game and they were just singing the whole time. The whole time. Yeah. Send them to the PGA tour. That'll make it interesting. Oh, my gosh. It's great. It's like a European Rider Cup at home. You wish that all the people that are so divided here. Would you see these people? Yes. We're actually a nice place to be. Yes. We quit arguing about nonsense and just enjoy what we are, ranch dressing and beer. Truthfully, truth. That's in the nutshell. Did you just create something, Brian? Yeah, we need to put that on a billboard going up to Macon next year. We're just ranch dressing and beer. J.R. Morning, ranch dressing and beer. Exactly. If there is one thing that I think should bridge people together here. is like, guys, we got it pretty good. No. It's pretty great here. I mean, when you compare it to other places? Yeah, it's pretty darn good. Like, we can squabble over the silliness and the nonsense and all that stuff. And, I mean, we're going to celebrate 250 here. Yeah, we are. It's a pretty darn good place. Well, they're celebrating thousands over there. Yeah, but who cares? But at the same time, you need to look at what the good part is. Looking at the bad's always easy. Looking at the goods harder. Ranch dressing and beer, baby. Shouldn't have been tax on our tea. How about that? There you go. Hello. Coming up on the other side, John James gets a big endorsement from Donald Trump. He'll join us at 819. But Michigan summers mean outdoor adventure and fun. You know that. It's the best place in the country for vacations. But high temperatures should never break your budget. And you need to count on consumers' energy to help make the most of your season and your budget with tips. and ways to save, like making small changes, like shifting some energy used to the morning or in the evening or raising your thermostat, just a couple of degrees, and maybe even doing laundry at night or on the weekends. All of these things can actually help lower your bill while keeping your home comfortable. So make sure you discover more ways to beat the heat at Consumersenergy.com slash summer. Well, Donald Trump has weighed in on a lot of the primaries happening across the country, and he finally did here in the gubernatorial race. Yes, sir.

By the way, he did not endorse Jocelyn Benson. Didn't think he would. No, I didn't think so either. And we were, you know what? We hit the nail on that head. We did. But he did endorse John James. And that certainly, I imagine, would give John a big boost going into this primary come August 4th. And Congressman John James joins us this morning to talk about it. Congressman's good to have you. Hey, thanks having me back on, guys. Good morning. What does this endorsement mean for you, for your campaign, for fundraising efforts, all of those things? How do things change now? Well, the president's a friend, and we've been supportive of each other for the better part of the past decade. I'm grateful for the president's support, but the battle is not won yet. We have a lot of work to do. We have early voting starting this week, and please remind all of your friends that the primary ends on August 4th. If you like more information, go to johnjamesmi.com. But again, we're grateful for the president's support, but I'm going to be going all around the state to earn yours as well. The president has had mixed results. endorsing candidates recently. Do endorsements still carry the same political weight? They want to stay at Congress. Of course, and that's a great point. The president is undefeated in federal races in Michigan and statewide races. And so I'm excited to have the support. People in the state of Michigan recognize that we need to begin to unify, consolidate, because we cannot beat the Democrats and turn our state around with half a Republican Party. And when you see what's happening in New York and around the country, the Democrat Socialists, socialism is on the march. And Republicans are being called right now to stand against the forces that would tear our nation down to its studs, ironically, on our 250th birthday. So we need to come together. We need to support the president. We need to make sure that we are working together to ensure that our children have a better and brighter future. And we turn the state around from the damage that Jocelyn Benson and Gretchen Whitmer administration has done over the past seven and a half years. You know, you've gotten a number of high profile endorsements, obviously, the president being the latest one. But there still needs to be work done on voter turnout. And historically, during primaries, people don't get out to the numbers that we would all like. I think everybody should vote in every single election, no matter what's on the ballot. How does that impact the way that your campaign is operating at this point? Well, that's such a great point. Midterms are turnout elections and midterm primaries especially, which is the reason why I've been to 83 counties around the state of Michigan, which is why I've had hundreds of stops public and otherwise around the state of Michigan because this is going to be won in the trenches. I'm a combat, aviation, pilot, ranger qualified. Nobody's going to outwork me. So while I'm doing my duty for the state of Michigan being deployed here to the swamp, I'm still getting around the state and making sure people here are

message of what we're going to do to bring educational excellence, economic mobility, public safety, accountable government, and healthy families. These are the messages that are resonating, which is why I was ahead by double digits in the primary prior to the president's election, why we'll continue to widen that margin, and while we're going to wrap our arms around the entire party to focus on one objective, which is beating the Democrats in November and turning our state around for all 10 million Michiganders for the next four years. Congressman, you represent a competitive congressional district. You know, some Republicans worried that leaving the House could put that seat at risk. Why was the governor job the right thing for you to do at this point? You know, that's a great question. I've always answered the call. From the time that I went into the military, after I went to war after 9-11, I answered the call for a nation that was under attack. I came back after the Great Recession to help grow jobs in Detroit. I answered the call for people who were increasingly hopeless that they could have a life they would be proud of and put more money in their pockets. I would help provide jobs in Michigan and the city of Detroit answering the call. And then once again, when our republic was under attack with open borders and... and extremist policies. I ran for office and won and stood against the extremism that, that frankly threatens our way of life, supporting the president's agenda and making sure that we can have a country who can be proud of and have on to our children. So once again, running for Michigan's governor, our state is on fire. I see, 45th in total education. Our economic opportunity slipped from 19th to mid-30s in one year, and our children are leaving a state for better opportunity. Our state is on fire. I'm answering the call, and the Democrat's only answer is somebody who's currently... being sued for racial discrimination, allowed illegals to vote, and can't even run a website. And so Michigan deserves better. We were made for more. And I'm answering the call to help Michigan a better place where we can all prosper under our own terms. Yeah, and that was the topic of the panel that I hosted with John up on Mackinac Island. And Congressman, we appreciated your time for that. And that is a huge... cause of concern and a huge focus for the next governor in this state is how do we turn these things around and quickly? And I do want to ask you also about... what we've seen in the wake of this Donald Trump endorsement, actually even going back before it, because Tom Leonard, who was running for governor as well on the Republican side, had dropped out through his support behind your campaign. After the president endorsed you, Eric Nesbitt dropped out and through his support behind you. Do you see a scenario, whether you win the primary, lose the primary? Is there going to be a cohesion of Republicans in the state that are going to band together to support each other? Republicans have always stood up.

to free men from bondage and hold our republic together, and we will do so once again. But in the state of Michigan, the Republican Party will unite. We will bind together to free men from mental and emotional bondage and to save our republic and to make Michigan great again. I have every hope that was somebody who's actually been to combat and brought people together to accomplish tough and dangerous missions, that I will be able to do it again, unifying our party, winning this election, and then bringing our state together. to fix it and frankly put out this fire. I'm willing to answer the call and run into the fire. And I just need everybody on our team to make sure that they're willing to hold the rope on the other end. I'm so excited for the opportunity to earn your support and your vote. And I think you can see with the president's endorsement, with my former opponent's endorsement, that the people who are in it for the right reasons, they were in it for you. Tom Leonard, Eric Ness, they were in it for you. And right now they recognize that I'm in the best position to take the shot. I'm in the best position to win the general. And we, together, are going to fix our state. Congressman, between now and August 4th, will we see a debate between you and Mike Cox and Perry Johnson? I've accepted two debates, one in Southeast Michigan and Detroit.

This is my good friend, Rick Albin. And I'm looking forward to having our message out there for everybody. A little bit of phone trouble there with you, Congressman. But we heard you say that you did accept a couple of debates, which is good to hear. We appreciate your time, as always. Thank you. Don't be a stranger. We'll talk again very soon. Yes, sir. Look for it. Have a good one, Congressman. You got it. But again, I do think it's a meaningful endorsement, whether or not that's going to carry into November. Right. We'll see. That's down the road. That's down the road. But Donald Trump has been, he's got a pretty darn good average when it comes to who these endorsements and when they're coming through in their primaries in these states. Yeah. The record doesn't lie there. And, you know, we had two drop and we'll see how this goes with these debates because people want to hear. you know, what these candidates have to say. And the best way to do it is get out in front and talk to the people. Certainly. Donald Trump to Capitol Hill today, immigration on the docket, Iran on the docket. What do we expect to hear coming out of these conversations with lawmakers? We'll talk about that with Evan Brown. Next, it's J.R. Morning. Well, Donald Trump took a little jaunt over to the Capitol yesterday and had some meeting. Had some meetings. Uh-huh. Had some. Well, according to report some hot testy meetings, GOP senators described this interaction between Donald Trump and Senator Bill Cassidy, who lost his primary bid in the state of Louisiana. GOP senators who were there described Trump as being, quote, mad as a murderer hornet. Oh. According to a story in the New York Post. Well, I know also yesterday, you know, they asked him, you know, are the Republicans unified? And he says, yeah, you know, we're unified. Couple I don't like. Maybe he was talking about Bill Cassidy. Let's talk about it with Evan Brown, our Fox News reporter and WJR contributor. Evan, good morning. Good to have you back. What happened yesterday? Oh, I think there was a big blowout behind closed doors. It seems to get a little hot under the collar there between the president and Bill Cassidy, the outgoing, and when I mean outgoing, I mean the leaving senator from Louisiana. Mr. Bill Cassidy lost his primary to a Trump-act challenger, and there's really no... Love lost between the two men and certainly no need for the senator to kiss any tail at this point. And yet after the big blow up, the senator was treated to a private classified briefing with the vice president JD Vance about things going on in Iran. And then all of a sudden, Bill Cassidy changed his vote on the War Powers Resolution Act. And therefore, between that and Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, again, no friend to the president, no friend to his fellow Republicans, really. changed his vote to a present, then that War Powers Resolution Act died, and the president was not condemned for his military actions in Iran.

which would have happened with those Republican help if things had not gotten changed. So I think what started yesterday really started when the president said, I'm not going to sign that housing bill, and they were all set to sign it. And I think that got the senator's attention, the Republican senators' attention, and they had a big confab about it, and the president basically read them in the riot act. But that housing bill was supposed to be like a messaging win on affordability. How much of a missed opportunity is that? I don't know. The president could still sign it anytime soon. You know, he didn't veto it, put it that way. But it would, even if he didn't sign it, wouldn't it go into law in like 10 days? Anyway? Yeah. I mean, he has a certain time to sign it where it can get pocket vetoed or something like that. So, you know, I think it was a calculated risk. Obviously, it was enough to get the senator's attention where they agreed to come meet with him or host him for a meeting. And to have kind of air this out. You know, one of the president's big complaints about the Senate Republicans is that they don't really help him much. And they also don't act like a majority. They usually fumble their own ball. And that's sort of been a problem that Republican presidents have had with Republican senators for a while. And the president has tried to encourage them to do things like kill off the filibuster to get things done. because the Democrats themselves have done that. And why the Republicans refuse to play the same game the Democrats do is sort of beyond, I think, the President's understanding. The President would rather them be more aggressive, and he's made that overture again and again and again. And there were some rumors that he kind of had words with John Thune, the Senate Majority Leader, about this and whatnot. So, you know, the President knows he needs to keep control of the House and Senate after the midterms, otherwise he faces impeachment yet again. And so I think he wants to kind of hurry up and get the ball down the field here, and that means getting certain things passed. I mean, obviously the president came in with a message, and it sounds like that message was delivered. And there was even some thanks on the behalf of Bill Cassidy to Steve Witkoff and Vice President JD Vance, because it sounds like they got a breakdown of some of the negotiations that have been happening too. Yeah, I mean, there was a change in tone from what we've normally seen from Bill Cassidy. Maybe he was, maybe his concerns were alleviated or maybe something else happened. But, you know, the senator is now going to essentially be leaving office, shown that he could play ball if he had to. On immigration, this comes as a federal judge says now block key parts of the president's executive order on voter registration and citizenship proof. How significant is that ruling in practical terms?

Well, it really, I mean, it's, look, the president has not had good luck with the federal district courts. He has much better luck at the appellate level and the Supreme Court. So if he has to fight this all the way to the Supreme Court, he will. The president is really, you know, more interested, I think, in the Save America Act and wants that pass. Because that's a piece of legislation. It's much stronger. than an executive order. Executive orders are very flimsy, you know, speaking in terms of policy mandating. So the president can do a lot of things with executive orders and then have those executive orders, you know, stopped or overturned by court pretty easily. Legislation, it makes it a bit harder because there's a bit more, you know, umph to a legislator, you know, to a past bill. But that's kind of where we're at. I think the president will fight these battles in any venue he has to. Well, and then the issue of the Save America Act, the voter eligibility act, also came up. And many Republicans, Thom Tillis, John Thune, have said if, if nuking the filibuster is the option, it's not going to happen. But there are other plans on the table as well. The president wants to get this through. He does. And look, I think the president has made the case again and again, and he's won, I think, a number of battles in terms of, you know, winning people to his side on this, and that there's a problem with allowing people who are not qualified to vote to vote, and that needs to stop. And while there is a great deal of... law and precedent that give states the power over managing elections. There are still basic laws about elections that have to be followed that come from the federal end and can be federally enforced. So I think the president's just going to fight those battles in whichever venue he can, whether it's through legislation with the Congress, through an executive order, and eventually through the courts. Interesting stuff. As always, Evan Brown, we appreciate your time. Thank you. You bet. Yeah, we'll talk soon. But this is, you know, it's funny because historically, When there are disagreements even inside your own party, presidents will make the trip over to the Capitol and they'll have a have a little confab and they'll work it out. Nice conversation, probably over coffee or whatever. Yeah. And they'll work it out. They'll work it out. Yeah. Donald Trump's approach is a little different. Well, yeah, obviously. I mean, you know, he's going to go in there and he's going to light the drapes on fire. Uh-huh. And he's going to peel the paint off the walls. And when he comes out, he's going to tell you that, you know. Yeah. There's a couple I don't really like. But yeah, I get along with everybody. But again, this is the management style of Donald Trump. It is. If he believes that this is the path that needs to go, there will be pushback. Right. Of course there will be. There will be people that disagree with that path forward. Yeah. But in a situation where you've got a fork in the road with two roads that are running parallel to each other, it's a matter of moving this around, moving that around, let's get people over here. That's right. And see what we can do. So it's a little bit like playing checkers. You're just...

You're just trying to get everything where you needed to go so that eventually you can, you know, you can put yourself in a position to win. And that's what Donald Trump does. Harder the deal. Well, I don't know if it's so much a deal making. It's more of... Here's my position, and I'm the president. Yeah. Shouldn't you also be on that same wavelength? Yeah, but if you go against me, if you go against me, I'll do something that will get you back to the table and we'll make a deal. Well, even John Thune, though, has been, you know, he's been pretty steadfast on the filibuster not going anywhere. That's true. Now, if that happens later on and the Democrats, you know, decide to make that change, I think they take the heat for it. I don't think Republicans should. I don't think anybody should do anything with the filibuster. No. But that's something that they're going to have to deal with. And then the president even thanked John Thune later on. So, again, a difference of position, but yet still seems like they're on working terms, which is, you know, not so much with Bill Cassidy. Right. This is the way of the world sometimes with Donald Trump. Coming up on the other side, the Pistons, NBA draft in the books, how they do. We'll talk about it. It's Chair morning. All right, so the NBA draft is wrapped. Yes, sir. Pistons add a couple of players. And also they trade Isaiah Stewart away. Yes, they do. And so what are the ramifications of that trade? Let's talk to Eric Vincent, our Detroit Pistons beat reporter for clutch points.com. It's good to have you back, my friend. My pleasure. How are you guys doing this morning? We're good. We're good. You know, I saw some fan reaction to the Isaiah Stewart trade, and it was mixed, honestly. Obviously, he brings a lot off the bench, great rebounder, you know, averaging under 10 points a game, but he brings an edge to this team that I think was needed. But they get a lot of financial flexibility because of this move. What did you think of it? Yeah, I was stunned. You know, beef stew has been one of the focal point beginning players of the restoration period for the Detroit Pistons, you know, coming to part of that, you know, core four, you know, in 2020 drafted by Troy Weaver. And the franchise spoke so highly of them, fans, teammates, front office coaching staff, calling him the, you know, the backbone of this defense and of this franchise. But at a period now where the Pistons are past their evaluation period and they're looking for championship expectations, these are the kind of moves that you have to make. You know, he has some good impact in the playoffs and some games. But however, he was kind of outplayed by Paul Reed. He was made a little bit more expendable considering the circumstances. And with Jayland Dern still looking at being their franchise big of the future, it made still a little bit more expendable than the other two guys. You know, it was definitely shocking. I think the return of whatever this deal is going to determine, you know, the value of how good this trade is, or this trade is going to be for the Pistons. But very shocking, none to say the less. I mean, we definitely wish to do the best and definitely did not see this coming, to be honest. Eric, what do you think about this cash to buy the 53rd pick from the Knicks and pick up this seven-foot center, Ugano Yenzo from Virginia? What do you think about that?

Yeah, I'd be lying to say if I, you know, had a huge, you know, gauge on his, you know, game prior to the move, you know, it helps for them to have some size, you know, still was a little undersized. And, you know, obviously, the name of Paul Reed, me, and kind of like 6-8, 6-9 players. So it helps to get a little bit more size, you know, how much they'll have to lean on him is going to be a question mark in itself as of right now. But, you know, I don't mind it. I think they needed some beef in the front court, the offers them some length and some shooting and some versatility at the position. But luckily at this point in the Piston's future, they're not over-relying on their rookies, their young guys to come in and make an immediate impact, which shows how much progress that they've made. So he'll be able to take gradual steps, you know, within his- development and hopefully it'll take him in the business far in a good winning direction yeah i i think that's the key point here is like fans were were ragging on them for these these picks and even going to the abucco cori trade and and they get him on board You know, he's a speedster. He's got handles. He's got patience. He can shoot the ball. Yes, Stanford stinks, but that's okay. I mean, they're not expecting him to start right away. So they've got their core. They got a couple of accompanying pieces to that core. And then they want to go out, it sounds like, to make an actual trade for a guy that's going to be able to come in and score a bunch of points and lead this team to that next plateau. So I don't have a problem with. really either of these picks, because I don't think they're going to be impactful players here initially. Yeah, I like the upside of Abuka Corrier. I think he could be a really good player in the NBA. But I think kind of as the roster stands right now, it kind of looks like kind of what they had with the BSU situation. You have three other point guards that are in front of him right now. So you have K, Dana Jenkins, and then Marcus Sasser, and then training up for him. was kind of, to me, a bit of a question mark if they plan on keeping him because, again, you're going to have to create opportunity for him to get the best out of that value. And it's going to be a little tough when you just gave, you know, Danis extension and then you still have Sasser on the books, you know, on the roster. So they're going to have to find a way to clear his area if they're going to try to get the most out of him. I definitely thought they were going to maybe use that pick to try to land a trade. It's so possible that, you know, maybe they could work something out, you know, with some of the other assets that they have within the roster and with their other draft flexibility. So I don't think Trace is done. I think he's making it very clear that they are trying to get some help around Kay Cunningham, that they do have, you know, bigger posties and expectations. He spoke about that during the draft and after as well. So I think he's making it pretty clear what he's trying to do. I like it. I like the aggressiveness. I like the intention because you don't want to waste this kind of window and this kind of time when you're in an Eastern conference that's open and you have an MVP caliber player in Kay Cunningham. You want to make these kind of moments count the best you can.

Does the activity from the night, the draft night, kind of tell you that Trajan is thinking this team is right on the cusp of a deep playoff run, or is he still kind of selectively kind of tearing down parts of the old foundation to build it his way? I think he understands the magnitude of the moment now. The past couple seasons, he's talked about, you know, this being an evaluation period, you know, bringing in J.B. Biggestaff, his first season, still kind of learning what the young players were capable of, guys like Jay Knivey, guys like Asar Thompson, J. Lyndon, Kay Cunningham, seeing how they could jail together and see how far they could take this team, especially when they were adding new veteran pieces like Tobias Harris, Tim Hardaway, Jr. Malik Beasley, you wanted to see what was possible with those core guys. And I think he, at this point, has his answers. I think he knows that he wants Jalen Dern, a part of the future. Cade is obviously the building, you know, core centerpiece. Assar Thompson, he obviously wants to be here as well. He spoke on wanting to build around them as the core three for this team. But you're going to have to do that with some proven, you know, bucket getters instead of just relying on young internal development. You know, that... helps and that is valuable to have. But in this Eastern conference and the NBA in general, everybody has multiple scoring punches and you got to be able to keep up with that. We see Ken Cunningham struggle and kind of get tired as a season goes on with the workload that he has playing heliocentric basketball. We see his turnovers go up. We see a lot more added on his workplace. You've got to find a way to get him some help. And I think that's what they're trying to do now. Yeah, no doubt about it. Eric Vincent, we appreciate your time. As always, thank you. And we'll talk soon. Sounds good, fella. That's a good one for you as well. You just bring in Kwai and LeBron and you'll be good, right? That's all you got to do, right? That's all you got to do. Say what? Just bring in guys who don't play full seasons anymore. Nope. Perfect. That's exactly what we need to get over the hump. Exactly. Yeah, right. All right. All right, all talk coming your way next. I believe it's Marie Osborne filling in. Good. Marie's coming up next here on WJ. We'll see you tomorrow on a Friday. Have a going.