All Talk with Kevin Dietz ~ April 24, 2026 ~ Full Show

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Good morning and happy Friday. I'm Kevin Dietz along with Marie Osborne, bringing you the latest headlines and the stories that everyone is talking about. I'm watching these redistricting battles and wondering, why do we have to play these games? Why can't we just pick a set of rules and follow them? What we're watching right now with redistricting isn't about representation anymore. It's about advantage. It's about figuring out how to win before a single vote is even cast. Draw the lines this way. Move the district over there. Stack this community. Split that one. Both parties do it and neither one should. This isn't really a Republican thing or a Democrat thing. It's a power thing. And that's the problem because somewhere along the way, We stopped asking, what's fair? And we started asking, what works for us? What gives us the edge? What locks in control? What guarantees we don't lose? And when that becomes the mindset, you're not really competing anymore. You're manipulating. And the people who lose in that system isn't really the politicians. It's us, the people. Elections are supposed to be simple. You put your ideas out there, you make your case, and the people decide. That's it. Win or lose. But now it feels like we're trying to control the outcome before the game even starts. And that's where people start to check out. Because if it feels rigged, if it feels like the system is being gamed, why trust it? Why believe your vote actually matters? And that's dangerous because once people lose trust in the system, everything else starts to crack. And look, I get it. Politics has always been tough. It's always been strategic. There's always been some level of maneuvering. But there's a difference between strategy and bending the system so far that it doesn't feel like a fair fight anymore. Let's stop trying to rig the elections. If your ideas are strong, if your message connects, if people believe in what you're saying, you will win. That's how it's supposed to work. But when both sides are constantly looking for the angle, the workaround, the advantage, it sends a message that winning matters more than how you win. I suggest same rules for everyone. Clear lines, no tricks. You go out, you make your argument, you earn the votes, and whoever win wins, clean, simple, trusted. That's the system people believe in. That's the system people show up for. That's the system this country was built on. Because at the end of the day, this isn't about redistricting. It's about trust. It's about whether people believe the system is fair. And right now, a lot of people do not. If we keep playing games like this, one party might win elections, but we lose something a lot bigger. Trust in our election process. And once that's gone, that's a lot harder to redraw. We'll do a deep dive at 918 with Rusty Hills and we'll take your calls at 935. Good morning, Marie. And good morning, Kevin. With the Iran war approaching the eight week mark, President Trump declined yesterday to give a timeline for resolving the conflict telling reporters in the Oval Office, don't rush me. Meanwhile, U.S. military officials are developing new plans to target Iran's capabilities in the strait of her moves in the event that the current sees fire with Iran falls apart. This is according to multiple stories.

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sources of fragile ceasefire in Lebanon has been extended by three weeks after Israel and Lebanese representatives met at the White House. However, Israel and the Iran-backed militant group, Hezbollah, continue to exchange attacks as talks were held. The conflict between Israel and Hezbollah is among the key sticking points in this U.S.-Iran peace effort. And the White House claims its economic pressure is causing Iran to lose $500 million per day as its economy is on the brink of collapse. On Fox, South Carolina Republican Senator Lindsey Graham says the Navy should continue its blockade. One of two things are going to happen. Iran's going to come to the negotiating table this time with a deal we can hopefully all live with or if they don't because they're so in disarray. Trump's going to finish the operation militarily. Iran seized two ships Wednesday and intercepted another. The U.S. fired on a and boarded a ship on Sunday, which remains in U.S. custody. Former Michigan staffer Paige Shiver says former Michigan football coach Sharon Moore got her pregnant and exercised complete control over her life during a years-long relationship. In a tearful interview on Good Morning America, Shiver described feeling manipulated and unable to leave the nearly four-year relationship. She said she wanted to keep the pregnancy but was advised by doctors not to due to serious medical complications. Shever also claimed the relationship was widely known within the athletic department. Here's a man that had complete control over me, over my emotions, over my career. And he knew that, and he used it against me. He, every time I tried to pull away, every time I tried to try and get out of even Michigan. He always had a story, always had a way to pull me in and making me feel that I couldn't leave him because he was so miserable without me. Moore was fired in December after the relationship came to light and was later arrested following an incident at her home. He ultimately pleaded no contest to lesser charges and was sentenced to probation. Shiver said she feared for her life during the confrontation and believes Moore should have received harsher punishment. The University of Michigan says it acted promptly once the relationship was discovered while Shiver hopes speaking out will help others in similar situations. The McCone County Health Department has confirmed its first case of measles. Officials say they're working to identify anyone. who may have come into contact with this person. This is the 10th confirmed case of measles in the state since mid-March. Seven were reported in Washington County and one each in Monroe and Ottawa counties.

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A Detroit man with a long and violent criminal history has been sentenced to 25 years in federal prison after a series of shootings, including a near-fatal attack on a victim forced to his knees. Aaron Hight was convicted as a felon in possession of firearm following a six-week crime spree that included firing into homes and seriously injuring multiple people. Authorities say Hight shot one victim in the chest after assaulting him and ordering him to kneel at gunpoint, leaving with life-altering injuries. The case drew attention after Hight was... repeatedly released on bond at the state level despite escalating violence. Federal prosecutors later took over the case after the state charges were dismissed. Officials described height as a persistent and dangerous offender with convictions dating back decades. Law enforcement agencies emphasize the importance of federal intervention and removing violent criminals from the streets. The state of Michigan said it's aware that some letters being sent out by mistake informing many people that they wouldn't be getting their state income tax refunds because they hadn't paid the taxes that they owed. The State Department of Treasury officials say, They hope to have this problem corrected shortly. And a newly introduced proposal in the Michigan Senate would require private health insurers to cover treatments for infertility. It has been sent to the Senate Finance Committee. Similar legislation is expected to be iced in the House. Supporters say the measures would eliminate financial barriers to couples wanting to start a family. A youth soccer coach from Holly, Michigan has been indicted by a federal grand jury on serious charges involving the... alleged exploitation of a minor. A chasing pointer, 42 years old, is accused of transporting a child from Ohio to Michigan to engage in criminal sexual activity. According to prosecutors, he allegedly contacted the minor online and traveled across state lines in the middle of the night to bring the child to a Michigan hotel. Investigators say this was not an isolated incident alleging prior trips to Ohio and ongoing communications through social media. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to get into the redistricting battle. It's All Talk on WJR. It's all talk on a Friday morning. I'm Kevin D's coming you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-8-559-9-7. 1-800-8-9-0-WGR. Give us a text. Give us a call. We're going to take your calls at 935. So pick up the phone and be a part of the show. This morning we're talking about something that sounds technical, but could decide who controls Congress. It's called redistricting, and here's the twist. What's supposed to help Republicans in this case may actually be helping Democrats. A new analysis shows that redistricting push tied to Donald Trump and the Republicans could backfire, potentially giving Democrats anywhere from two to six additional house seats depending on turnout and maps. We're watching this whole thing go down. It looks like this political gamble by Republicans could turn into a big political mistake. Let's bring in Rusty Hills lecture and public policy at the Geraldard Ford School to Public Policy.

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at the University of Michigan. Good morning. How are you? Kevin, I'm good. How are you today? I'm doing good. I appreciate you coming on. I thought we did this redistricting along with the census. Now it looks like halfway through the census we're doing this. We're doing it in some states, but not all states. It just, I don't know. The whole thing just gives me an awful feeling about, I don't know if it's going as far as trying to rig the system, but it just looks like everybody's pushing so hard to try and win. It makes... me as a voter feel like, I don't know, it just, it doesn't build trust for me. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's a lot of people that feel that way. Like, hey, I thought we did this once every 10 years. Why are we going through this again? And so many other things that need attention, you know, prices and gas and airline fares. And you wish, let's focus on that stuff because that's what I pay every day for. But, you know, this whole redistricting drive, I think there's a saying that came to my mind, be careful what you wish for. It may come true, right? I think President Trump and the Republicans thought, hey, let's register Texas because we control everything down there. And we can get a lot of extra congressional seats. We do this. And, you know, maybe that'll happen. Well, the problem is Democrats control a couple of other states, you know, too, like California and Illinois. And they said, well, you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. So we'll redraw our maps and, you know, make them more democratically leaning. You know, as you say, I mean, at the end of the day, with all this effort that's gone on in all these different states, Virginia is the latest. Texas started it, California, Illinois, now Florida, looks like it's either a wash. or the Democrats might actually come out ahead based on some of the voting patterns from 24, 22, and what have you. And let me just say, you know, when I was party chair for the Republicans way back in the day, I was in charge of redistricting. We redid the maps. I thought they were pretty good maps. Republicans did pretty well. We took the majority in the Michigan delegation for the first time since Watergate. But you know what? A couple of years later, Democrat by the name of Elissa Slotkin, she came along and she beat a good Republican name Mike Bishop. And a couple of years after that, Democrat named Hillary Skolton came along. And she won Jerry Ford'sville District in Grand Rapids, which, you know, I never thought we'd lose. So.

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You just, you know, people think they have these great ideas and everything is all, you know, mapped out to perfection. And sometimes voters have other ideas, right? Yeah. So they, you know, people try and draw these maps to get an advantage. But ultimately, hopefully, anyway, I hope so anyway, that the candidates with the best ideas that resonate with the people push through whatever the, whatever they thought the redistricting was going to do. Yeah. Yeah, let's remember that. That's right. The people have the power. And if they show up, they get to decide who gets elected to state House and state Senate, who gets elected to Congress, our next senator. You know, one thing, and I know you know this, Kevin, because you're an astute follower of politics. Michigan is going to be ground zero in 2026. And I think we may very well determine who does control Congress and who controls the Senate because we've got a huge Senate race here. With Mike Rogers for the Republicans trying to take back this seat that's now held by Gary Peters, Democrats have a very competitive three-way primary. And there's a number of congressional seats that are up for grabs. I know Tom Amy Coney Barrett and the seventh Democrats want to go after that. Democrats are trying to take that open 10th congressional district, which is now held by John James over in Oakland, McComb. Republicans have recruited some great candidates in the... Grand Rapids District, the old Jerry Ford, to run against Hillary Sculton. So I hope your listeners like to watch political ads. Oh, my gosh. The money that's going to pour into Michigan in these races is going to be record-breaking. Now, Republicans have not won a Senate seat in an awful long time in this state, but they have come close the last few cycles, and this year will definitely be very close. Yeah, Mike Rogers ran a great campaign two years ago, so close he could almost taste it, but just fill about 18,000 votes short out of, you know, more than 5 million votes cast or whatever. So he's back at it, again, has a lot of strengths, Democrats, desperate to hold that seat. There's no way they control the Senate if they don't hold on to the Peter's seat, so they're going to put all their chips in. It's going to be a real Donnybrook. You know, you talked about redistricting, which is really important. You know, you figured out how important it is when these districts get redrawn. There's two other things to keep in mind. This is not a presidential election. So not all of the people listening to you will vote in a midterm like they do in a presidential. That's a little bit more of a problem for Republicans and an advantage for Democrats because. Republicans now have more of these what we call low propensity voters. They tend not to turn up in special elections. They don't turn out in midterm elections quite as much as presidential. And Trump himself won't be on the ballot. He's an incredible draw. So this is going to be a challenge for Republican voters because, you know, the blue wave, the Democrats are really hoping they get more of their folks out. And the other advantage Democrats think they have is what we call this enthusiasm gap. Democrats, by a substantial margin, like 14 percentage points, say they are much more certain to vote in the 2026 midterms. So Republican candidates have got to sort of outperform on turnout or they're going to come out on the short end of the stick come 2026.

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Well, if Democrats win Congress, it's going to be a very different story for President Trump in his final two years. Was this move to try and redistrict in Texas, just a desperate push to try and hold Congress by Republicans? And was it a miscalculation knowing that these other states could do the same thing? Well, I think they thought they had an advantage and they decided to do something out of the ordinary because normally we only do this every 10 years. I don't think they anticipated that Democrats would respond in kind because over the last, I don't know, I'd say about 20 years, Democrats have been very invested in these nonpartisan efforts. You know, and we have it here in Michigan. Voters, not politicians, sort of changed the rule and put it in our Constitution where we've taken it out of the hands of the politicians. People like me don't get to redraw these districts anymore. But, you know, independent citizens. have the opportunity to draw the state house senate and congressional districts which has its own issues quite honestly because look i mean i'm not here to weigh in on whether that's good or bad voters thought it was good but then you know detroit ended up with no black representatives in congress for the first time in 60 years right um how weird is that And then the other sort of unintended consequence is that because so many more districts are competitive, which, you know, maybe is a good thing, that means that both parties spend even more money to try and win those competitive districts. Right. So you see even more ads on TV, even more money's being stopped. And, you know, one of the unintended consequences of trying to do the right thing. All right, Rusty O'L's Lecturer and Public Policy at the Grant at Gerald Ford School of Public Policy at the University of Michigan. We appreciate you. Your calls are next. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. And it's 935. That means it's your turn to talk. 1-800-859-0-9-7-1-800-8-5-0-WJR. We were just talking to Rusty Hills from the University of Michigan about redistricting. What are your thoughts on redistricting? Drawing the lines, moving the maps, trying to gain an advantage before a single vote is even cast. Republicans do it. Democrats do it. Whoever has the power uses it. I don't. I think it's fine to do every 10 years with the census because people move around and things change. And I think that system is fairly effective and has been fairly effective. But this redistricting just five years after the census, it just feels like.

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manipulation. This state's doing this and that state's doing that. And I get it. Donald Trump started it. He went to the Texas governor and said, hey, let's do some redistricting in Texas. We can pick up a couple of seats in Congress. And then I think Gavin Newsom was next to jump in and say, oh, yeah, you're going to do this in Texas. Wait until you see what we do in California. And then Illinois jumped in and Virginia. And I think. I just feel like elections are supposed to be simple. You make your case, you earn your votes, you win or you lose. But now it just feels like we're trying to rig the game. And I don't like that. Now, Rusty Hills, he said something interesting. He said he was part of drawing the maps in Michigan going back in time a bit. And he said they drew them in a way they thought that it would help Republicans. He was a Republican. I won't say it backfired. It's just that Democrats ended up winning big elections in the state of Michigan. And I think it was because what they were saying was resonating with the people of Michigan. So even though Republicans tried to draw the maps in Michigan, the Democrats still were able to win. I hope that's true. I hope that whichever candidate puts out the best message and whichever candidate resonates wins and pushes through whatever the map drawing is, whatever the district drawing is. Because I just feel like what we're doing right now, it pushes at our trust in the system. If you feel like it's being redrawn to rig the system, and any time you just feel like... a game isn't fair. It's like, why play? And the last thing we need is more people in this country feeling elections aren't fair and feeling like, I'm not going to participate. I'm just going to stay home. This whole thing was decided before the voting even started. 1-800-859-0-957, 1-800-9-0 W-J. Let's go to Chuck and Franklin. Chuck, welcome to all talk. Good morning, Kevin. Kudos to you and your producers for putting Rusty Hills on. I haven't heard from Rusty in, it seems like, forever. And you're almost too modest in your introduction of him. He's at the Gerald Ford School now, but man, he was a player in Republican politics in the Engler years. And he knows everything. So kudos for putting him on the air. I got the distinct impression that Rusty still had not come around to the idea of our independent redistricting commission in Michigan, which is consistent with all of the Republicans. They all hated it. They all opposed it. And I did, too, back in the day. I remember talking to Stephen Henderson of the Free Press and saying, I think that the Arizona case, that's the case. the Supreme Court case that enabled every state to be able to have a redistricting commission if they wanted one. Arizona was one of the first to do it. And the Supreme Court said, yep, that's okay. It was a five to four decision and really close and really contentious. So it's by the skin of the nation's teeth that we even have these redistricting commissions.

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It's one of the rare issues in politics where I have turned around 180 degrees myself. I used to think, hey, it's clear. It's in the Constitution. Legislatures draw these things. Let's let the legislatures do it. But the science of demographics has come along so far and so fast that it's true that politicians can choose their voters. And it's just... It's science. It's political science. It's demographic science. And I am all on board now on redistricting commissions. Even when we have, you know, anomalies like the Detroit situation, I don't think the Republicans really care too much whether there are two. African-American black representatives out of Detroit or not. I don't think it's really a big deal. The Voting Rights Act may feel differently. But this is one of those rare issues where personally I have completely turned around, and it's because times have changed. Yeah, they certainly have. Thanks, Chuck. Appreciate the call. Let's go out to John and Gross Point. John, welcome to all talk. Hi, Kevin. I missed the interview, so I don't know exactly what was said, but I wanted to make a couple comments. First of all, there are six states that are what referred to as New England, so like Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire. Anyway, in those six states, there's 25 representatives, and the Democrats have all of those representatives. The districts are drawn in their favor. Of course, there's some Republican states that are similar, but nothing like that. And I heard that even before Texas did that, redistricted theirs, California was even worse off. If you looked at it mathematically, California, even before they did it, theirs was rigged more than Texas was after Texas did it. The other thing is that I remember a while ago, There was a rule or something. In Michigan, you're supposed to follow the county lines, kind of follow any kind of political lines, so you shouldn't like split up counties and things like that. And this last time they did it, with our districting commission, they, you know, they ignored that. The court said, no, you don't have to follow that. So we got all these weird districts in. The other thing is that our redistricting commission, I think Ingrid Jocks wrote an article a while back about the two supposedly independent people that are on there, two or three, they're all linked to the Democratic Party. They claim they were nonpartisan independent, but in fact they weren't, if you look back into their history. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate it, John. Thanks for calling in. Good stuff. Yeah, the last redistricting commission, too, they really refused to take public opinion. They wanted to operate behind closed doors. They were not being terribly transparent. And that's a problem. I mean, we do have to figure.

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out how to do this. I think we should only be allowed to do it every 10 years when the census comes around. I think every state should do it at the same time. I don't think states should be able to just say, all right, this year we're going to do it. It's been five years. We think it's time. And whether California started it or Texas started it or the New England states started it, it doesn't matter to me who started it. I do not believe in manipulating the lines. to try and win it for one party over the other. It should actually be drawn in a way that makes it most fair for all of the people in each state. And I get it. To do that, it can't be the ruling party in that state. It needs to be some sort of independent redistricting commission, in my opinion. How do you make sure that people are independent? Well, that's not super easy. People can lie about where they're at and who they are. That's where we need to go. We can't just keep doing it nilly-willy. And what we're doing right now is just hurting voters confidence. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. It's all talk on a Friday morning. I'm Kevin Deetz coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-859-957. Give us a call. Give us a text. 1-800-8-9-0 W-JR. Be a part of the show.

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With the 17th pick in the 2026 NFL draft, the Detroit Lions select Blake Miller, tackle Clemson. All right, let's talk Lions with Lomas Brown, color analyst for the Detroit Lions Radio Network and co-host of WJR SportsRap. Good morning, Lomas. Hey, Kevin. Good morning. How are you? I'm doing great. I stayed up. I watched the entire first round. I love the draft. I don't know why. I could watch it all day. Probably on Saturday I'll spend most of my day watching it. I watch for the stories, too. I watch these young people, and I love when they're surrounded by their families, and they get excited, and they get that phone call. What was that like for you when that happened? Yeah, you know, Kevin, I was at home back in 1985 with my youngest, excuse me, my oldest daughter, which was, she was two years, three years old then. So I was around my family right there. And it wasn't. Back then, that's probably when they really started going to New York. I know Bruce Smith and a couple of other guys out of my class, they were in New York. But I was surrounded by family. And you know what, Kevin, you're right about what you're saying. I think the thing I love is how appreciative that a lot of these guys are about coming into the league. It is a privilege to play in the NFL. Regardless of anything else, it's just the privilege you have this privilege to play in the greatest league in the world. And that's the NFL. And your lives change forever. So I was happy to see that and happy for those guys. Yeah, it's really cool part of it all. Do players, do they care which team? drafts them. You know, there's all these mock drafts and whatnot, but do you just want that phone to ring no matter who the team is? Or do you, or do people say, oh, man, I hope I go here. I hope I go there. Well, I mean, there's so much stuff put out there, right? I mean, for instance, with me, Detroit was never on the table. Kevin, I never talked to a scout, a personnel, a front office. Nobody from the Lions. It was like Detroit wasn't even on my radar. And two picks before they drafted me, they called me and say, hey, if this and this happens, we're going to draft you. That was the first time I had ever heard from Detroit. So it was always I was going to be in Cleveland, Green Bay was a possibility, San Francisco was a possibility, and a couple of other teams, but never Detroit. So it's the same thing with these guys. They went through the same process. Yeah, they hoped to go somewhere, but they really didn't know until their name was called.

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That's wild. That's wild. All right. What do you think of Blake Miller in the pick at number 17? I like it. I like it. I text. I got a group text with AB. You know, me and him and Dan, Big Dan, we were, had the group text. And I told him in that group text. I thought we got the best offensive tackle in the draft. I do. You know, even though you didn't hear a lot about him and those other guys talk more about. than him. But I think with that experience factor that he's going to come in with, what, playing 54 games in college, I think that just bodes well because, again, it's going to be a learning curve, Kevin. I'm not saying he's going to step right in and everything's going to be hunky-dory, but he'll be capable of stepping in, I think, much sooner than later. And that will allow, you know, at least. Penae the move to the left side and Larry Barrum to get plenty of time at the right tackle position while you get the young fella up to speed. Now, A.B. told me that you wanted an edge rusher. Blake Miller is not an edge rusher. He might stop some, but he's not an edge rusher. I did. I did want the edge rusher because, again, my biggest question going into 2026 for our team is going to be. Can we get the opposing quarterback? Can we either get sacks, hits, pressures, or him off of his spot next year? You know that was a problem last year. I mean, look what James Winston did to us. James and Winston did because when we played them. I mean, so again, these quarterbacks, if you give them five, six seconds to scan that field. I don't care of, man, you could bring Dion Bernie Sanders back and it won't help in coverage. And we already have question marks going into the year without secondary. So, yeah, me, I thought the way they impact the game would be. on the defensive side of the ball, at least for us, because we're pretty strong on the offensive side of the ball. But I can't argue with the pig. I would dare myself to argue with this pick because he is a big fella and he is going to keep Jared upright. Well, last night for part of the draft, I thought they were just announcing the Ohio State lineup. They had the third pick, the fourth pick, the fifth pick, the sixth pick, all came out of Ohio State. I know Ohio State was good, but that stunned me. No, I mean, again, they had a, the only thing that stunned me about it was. they didn't win the national championship. Right. That's the thing that stung me with all the great players. Think about, like you say, all those players, they played together last year. And they didn't win the 90. So that's the thing that stung me the most about that. Right. Absolutely. So we go with Miller. How important, how does that change the game if we shore up or even have a top-notch offensive line? How does that change things for Jared?

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golf and Jamar Gibbs and some of the receivers? Well, I mean, again, that's just some security on the outside. Well, again, Kevin, he's going to have to develop too. He's going to have to learn the NFL game. So it's going to be some ups and downs. But what we need, I think, more so it's for the middle of our offensive line to improve. You know, that's where the improvement has to come in at for me. You know, even with losing Taylor Decker, because again, you brought in Larry Baum, who is a veteran player. So he's played in this league. So you could get away with him, or maybe he steps his game up. You never know. He might take his game to the next level being here and stuff and keep the rookie on the bench. But. Again, the middle of our offensive line was more of an issue and has been more of an issue than any place else. So that's where the improvement has to come. And, you know, to me, the biggest improvement of our offensive lines are going to have to come from our interior three guys, whoever that's going to be when the season starts. Lomas Brown, color analyst for the Detroit Lions Radio Network and co-host of WJR SportsR right here on WJR. Appreciate the conversation, a lot of fun. Thanks, Kevin. All right, we'll talk soon. Yeah, are the Lions going to use their next few picks on defense, or will they just take best available? They have typically taken best available. They do need some help on the defensive side of the ball, that edge rusher that Lomas was talking about, some DBs. We'll see what happens next. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. And welcome to the 10 o'clock hour of All Talk on a Friday morning. I hope you're having a wonderful day. I'm Kevin Dietz along with Marie Osborne, bringing you the latest headlines and the stories that everyone is talking about. Our good friend Jamie Edmonds, host of WJR Mornings, was on air today with a big announcement. Jamie, who is taking some time off as she works through her battle with breast cancer, says she plans to take us along on her journey in hopes of helping other people with a... brand new podcast finally come up with a plan of how i'm going to share my story I'm going to do a podcast and I'm going to call it angels along the way because that's how I feel. These people have been put in my path to help me get to where I need to go. So I'm going to call it angels along the way and we're going to talk to people in the community. We're going to talk to people who treat this awful disease, people who console, people who inspire, people touch by cancer. It doesn't have to be breast cancer. So I'm really excited about this project and hope it gets the message out.

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It's really great because she's going to pop on the shows periodically. But doing this podcast, this is going to allow her to work from home. It's going to allow her to work when she feels strongest, when she's at her best. And she's excited to share her story. But some days, she's just too tired and too weak. And so this really gives her an opportunity to do it in a podcast form. And then we can play parts of her podcast. And she can come on and talk about her podcast when she releases a new one. And she also said she's going to pop on and talk. sports and news and other things as well. So Jamie's sounded great today. She's doing well. I texted with her yesterday. And I love that she's going to do this podcast, Angels, along the way. And you'll be able to hear that podcast right here at wjr.com. We are so proud that Jamie is ours, that's for sure. And she is doing this the best way possible. And we can't keep her away from talking about sports. No. Her real passion. So we're very happy that she's going to. going to be joining us to do that. But I've been following along with her on Instagram as well and checking in with her every so often. She's doing very well. She says she's at a halfway point with those chemo treatments. And she said she's in such a different place today than she was when she was first diagnosed. I think anyone who's been on a journey like this can attest to this. At first, you're like, what is happening and what's going to happen to me now? I mean, it's just such a dark, dark hole. But she said now, she feels like, you know, now that she's on the path and she's fighting, it's tough, it's not easy, but at least she's got a goal. Yeah, when I was talking to her, she said, when she first found out, she's like, oh my gosh, this chemo, it's going to be so rough. Who's going to take care of my daughter? You know, who's going to help with all the family things? You know, and she was so worried now, you know, having gone through it eight times and seeing how tough it is, but also how great the community is. is, her family, her friends, the people have put together a separate website where you can sign up and, you know, get a dinner over to Jamie or if she, if they need something, you go to their little private website they have with their friends and community. But how wonderful. And now she knows that that support is there and she can get through this. She doesn't have to have all that fear of unknowing because as tough as it is, she now knows what it is. Absolutely. And knowing, sometimes just knowing where you're headed is such a big part of the battle. I think all of us that have gone through something can kind of attest to that. Kind of when you know where you're going, it's half the battle and it kind of sets you on a good course. It's going to be a fabulous podcast. Angels along the way. Angels along the way. Oh, by the way, you can get it right here on wjr.com. Our digital team is diligent about making sure we post everything to keep you updated with Jamie along, of course, with every news story of the. day. But we want to make sure that you go to wjr.com. You will hear those podcasts right there, as well as right here on the air with us on WJR. We want to tell you that California Democrats are split over a proposal to impose a one-time 5% tax on the state's billionaires. Silicon Valley tech executives are also split on this initiative and threatening to leave the state if it passes. On Fox, California Republican gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton. says the tax, it's unconstitutional, promises to fight it every step of the way if he's elected governor. It's a seizure of assets that haven't even been properly valued. But already the threat of it has driven $2 trillion of wealth out of the state.

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California Congressman Roe Kanah has supported this measure. He's a Democrat. Navidia CEO Jensen Iwang says that he was perfectly fine with the tax and asked fellow billionaires not to leave the state. California Governor Gavin Newsom opposes it. The Detroit Lions addressed a key need in the first round of the NFL draft by selecting Clemson offensive lineman Blake Miller with the 17th pick. With the 17th pick in the 2026 NFL draft, the Detroit Lions select Blake Miller tackle Clemson. whether that's working out, whether that's on the field, whether that's in the film room. Like, I want to make sure I do absolutely everything I can to be the best player I can be. You know, wherever I'm needed, I'm more than happy to fill in from there. I just love the culture, this organization. I really just feel, you know, I love the grit, love the toughness that's emphasized, you know, just kind of outside looking in. And, you know, I really want to uphold that standard. Blake Miller is ready to be a lion. The move came after a run on top offensive line prospects just before Detroit's selection, narrowing their options. Miller is viewed as reliable, experienced player more so than flashier, a high-risk pick. He brings durability, versatility, and a record of consistent play. This is GM Brad Holmes. He just checks a lot of boxes. Really high floor player. I actually, which really intrigued. Obviously, he's, look, he's big. He's tough. He's smart. He's a finisher. He has unbelievable football character, work ethic. I mean, everything from a culture standpoint, he fits that. That's the easy part. But his ability is the stuff that, I mean, he's athletic. He's a good athlete. And you. It's hard to find guys that can move like that that are finishers. A lot of fans were wondering if the Lions would try and make a trade to move up. They considered it, but in the end, they didn't need to. We did. You know, look, we, you know, we talked to teams, you know. up, you know, way up and we just kind of talk about and try to see if we can be at peace with what the capital is that you'd have to expend. But, but yeah, we, we definitely explored strongly about trading up and then just kind of seeing how it started to fall, probably about when we got to about. Probably right after LA took the quarterback, I felt pretty good that we might be able to just get Blake. Because the other thing is that there's just a little scare of, okay, I felt like from the outside looking in, we had this big, like.

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tackle target on our back. So if a team behind us was in the tackle market, then they might want to jump us as well. So we definitely explored that, but right about 14, I felt pretty good that we would be able to keep our assets and still in Blake. Kind of fun to hear the strategy behind the scenes of what's going on in the war room, as they call it. Most analysts describe the pick as really smart and really safe, filling an immediate need without taking a big gamble. We want to fill you in on what we've been talking about here for the last couple of weeks, and that's the situation with flooding up north. Dryer weather conditions and intensive work efforts have improved the flood threat at the Sheboygan Dam. But officials say there's still a lot of work today before the flood threat can be lifted. Emergency crews are now focused on the pending arrival of billions of gallons of snow melt and rainfall, swelled water levels will continue to rise. But they do believe that right now it is under control. I'm going up this weekend to check out the damage in Shiboygan. I'll let you know on Monday what I see. It's All Talk. I'm Kevin Dietz. It's all talk on a Friday morning. I'm Kevin Deeds coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-859-0-957, 1-800-8-9-0-W-JR. We're going to take your calls. We're going to read your text coming up at 1035. So pick up the phone and be a part of the conversation. At the North Lake Processing Center in Baldwin, a privately run ICE detention facility, there are reports that detainees have refused food for days in protest of conditions inside the facility. Advocates and attorneys say the concerns include poor medical care, unsafe conditions, and limited access to legal resources. But ICE says there is no hunger strike and insists detainees are receiving proper meals, proper health care, and basic necessities. Let's bring in Todd Flood attorney at Flood Law. Good morning, sir. How are you? Good morning, Kevin. I'm great. I'm great. Thanks for having me. Yeah, I appreciate you being here. What are the rights of detainees in these facilities? Well, they have several rights, but 1983 civil rights actions come into play. There is an issue because you get the Federal Tort Reform Act that, you know, when you sue a federal prison or federal institution, there's a higher bar to claim. You have to, you know, show that there's this gross negligence. And I can tell you firsthand, dealing with... a prison case that I'm involved in right now with the women in the state of Michigan and how they are living in, you know, deplorable conditions at times, it's a difficult, you're pushing a log up a hill because you're going up against Goliath. And a lot of people.

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you know, turn the blind eye to how prisoners or detainees are treated. It's a difficult, difficult situation. But here, they're protected just like anybody else, and you have to make sure that they're taken care of, properly fed, properly housed, and the like. I've reviewed a few of these cases, and attorneys, you know, are complaining. There's no question about it about their clients. And then on top of it. on top of it all. It's very difficult for attorneys to get in to see their clients in these institutions in some of the places with regards to the ICE detainees. So this is going to be a long slug going up the hill. The fact of the matter is, though, they have absolutely the rights to be taken care of to the extent that they're properly fed in the house. Yeah, I always find it interesting how we see all these stories about people concerned over the, care at the ICE detention facilities, but very little concern over the care, over prisoners around the country in some of our jails in prisons. We need to take care of all detainees, whether they're citizens or not. But when we get into this, who... Who oversees these conditions and how do we know what's really happening inside? I remember getting letters all the time from people in prison talking about how terrible the conditions were. And it was difficult to figure out if what they were saying was true or not. So there are two parts. The Bureau of Prisons for the federal system, I will tell you by far and large, they're 10 times better than you'll find state conditions. and they're well taken care of, well-housed, you know, and the like. Detainees, this is a different, you know, you're still going to have to deal with the independence and the federal system and, you know, the special housing for which they're being taken care of. But you have to remember something. Many of these detainees, many of these detainees haven't had their due process rights even taken care of yet or have gone through the system. There's just being held. So, and it's going to be, again, you're going to go up against with the Federal Department of Corrections that's holding these and the special allotment of funds that's been given to making sure that, you know, they have proper housing. This sad part about it. And I receive, because we represent so many right now, you know, in our case, it's much different because ours is dealing with strip searches of women that are, you know, it's just unconscionable because they're videotaping the strip searches. And this particular situation, though, You know, for your listeners, this is held by a special allotment of funds that's going to be taken to a different level. And the oversight of this, that's the big question. Who is actually taking care of making sure that human rights are being protected, properly fed, properly housed, beds?

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You know, some, I've had cases that, you know, they didn't even have blankets, proper blankets and sleeping conditions. So. At the end of the day, you're going to probably get some that are deplorable and, you know, others that not so much. And you've got to treat them all equally. This is going to be a tough fight because many people are just going to shun or turn a blind eye to it, which is to me, and, you know, for the practical parts of the law, we should be treating these people. you know, with respect and dignity while they're going through the process. If they're not, that's a serious problem. And how many people are getting their medicine, how many people are diabetic, getting their insulin, how many people are being, you know, with whatever comorbidity they may have, how many, you know, are not being properly treated with medical care. It's a big problem. It's a big issue. You talk about medical care. You know, what's the legal standard? Can they get any medical care they want? Can they get, I don't know, vision test, teeth cleaning, or is it emergency care only? What's the legal standard? Depends on what prison you're in. But, yeah, the legal standard is you're supposed to get all medical care, not necessarily that teeth cleaning and, you know, any kind of like elective type. process but those things that are urgent care for example you know any kind of like pancreatitis or, you know, something that's an emergency surgery or whatever the case may be, you have to make sure that the prisoners or detainees are making sure that we're making sure that they're being taken care of for those urgent cares. Otherwise, otherwise, otherwise, it's going to blow up in the government's faith because can you imagine we have a young lady that died because she got sepsis. Had a tooth problem, didn't get pulled out. Next thing you know, she got sepsis and died by the infection. And if there's a private contractor that's... supposed to be taking care of the custody and the medical care for these people, which we paid for with our taxpayer dollars, but they could be skimming the system, whatever the case may be, we go after the private health care company that is contracted with the federal government to make sure, but they're taking care of, and they just didn't do some gross negligence or neglect.

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which is, you're paying twice. You're paying once for them to take care of, and then you're going to sue them because they didn't take proper care that private company is ultimately going to be on the hook for it. So this is a difficult, difficult situation in our country right now. And the fact of the matter is, candidly, We're in this process of making sure that, you know, we get criminals off the street. We get detainees that, you know, need to be taken care of through due process. Well, you've got to do it right. You can't do it half baked. You've got to do it right. And instead of, you know, measuring twice, cutting once, you know, sometimes people just do it. you know, a half-backed way and don't take care of the detainees the way that's, you know, with human dignity. That's the bottom line. You got to have do it and do it what makes sense and do it right. Todd Flood, attorney at Flood Law. We appreciate your expertise. Thanks for the conversation this morning. Thanks for having me, Kevin. Have a great weekend. Yeah, you too. Have a wonderful weekend. Yeah, it's interesting. You know, when you hear complaints and people are able to send mail out, they get letters out, they're able to make calls. They get calls out. In this case, the inmates say, the detainees say that they were having. food strikes. They weren't eating. They were having hunger strikes. Even though ICE says that wasn't happening, several say they went on a hunger strike to show the conditions. And now the media is talking about it. So we'll see where this goes. Find out what their conditions are and if they're adequate or not. Your calls are next. 1-800-8590 WJR. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. All right, it's 1035. That means it's your turn to talk. 1,800, 859-0-957, 1-800-8-5-9-0-WJR. Give us call, give us to text, be a part of the show. How are you feeling about President Donald Trump? Does he have your full support? Is your support waning? Does he have none of your support? 1-800-8590 WJR. A new poll shows that some of the very groups that help elect Donald Trump are now pulling back. In a pretty meaningful way, we're talking about Hispanic voters, young Americans, and men all showing declining approval over the past year. Among Hispanic adults, approval has dropped significantly down to about one in four. Among younger voters, under 45, support has also fallen pretty sharply. Even among men, one of his strongest groups' approval has slipped. Now, his core base is still there strong, especially that MAGA support. That has not gone down at all. But outside of that core, there seems to be some cracks when it comes to Donald Trump's support. Approval.

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among Hispanic adults fell from about 40% to roughly 25% over the past year. That's a big number from 40 down to 25. When he was running for his second term, he reached out to Hispanic voters and they bought what he was selling. And he had a big Hispanic number, 40%. That's high for a Republican candidate. That has now fallen off to 25% just in the last year. Young voters. Their approval, this is 45 and under, that's what we call young now, that dropped from 39% to 28%. So more than 10 points among young voters. You remember Charlie Kirk was out at all the college campuses before he was killed and Donald Trump was really working to get the message out on college campuses. and talking about education and schools and what they should look like and a lot of the transgender issues. When he was elected, he was at 39%. Now he's just at 28% with people under 45 years old. Men have really been there for Donald Trump. His approval rating was at 47%. a year ago. And now it's down to 38%. So it's dropped nine points, not as much as the other two groups, but still, it's legit. What's going on? Why is Donald Trump losing Hispanic support, young voters support, men's support? There's economic concerns that are driving some of the dissatisfaction, of course. A lot of people feel it's always the economy, the economy, the economy. But I think there's more going on, possibly with immigration impacting this Hispanic vote. 1-800-859-57. Let's go to Mark and Milford. Mark, welcome to All Talk. Good morning, Kevin. Thank you for my call. Kevin, how you know, if you remember, I came from communism 40 years ago. I escaped this system. Mr. Trump is doing perfect job. He is the man who is standing for America and for American people. People who do not understand that, they should move to Iran, to Russia, and find out how their life is easy, if not staying here in the United States. You know, Mr. President Reagan, Mr. President Trump, they are two best presidents when we have last 40 years here. If you're buying car for 100,000 miles and you are complaining that you are paying $1 per gallon more, why the hell you are buying, you know, car for $100,000 if you can drive for $30,000? You know.

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Mr. Trump, thank you for your job, what you're doing. You are perfect, perfect men for America. Thank you. Thanks for listening, Mark. We appreciate it. He gets a perfect, perfect, perfect score from Mark from Milford in the job that he's doing in his second term. Donald Trump mostly ran on the border, securing the border. and the economy. He said Joe Biden had brought us this inflation that has just hurt the American people and hurt the economy, and he was going to turn things around at the border and turn things around with the economy. How's he doing? How's he doing? At the border, they shut it down fast. I mean, it seemed like it was less than a month, and that border was shut down. He put pressure on Mexico and other countries to stop a lot. to have those countries stop allowing people to get to the border. And he brought people down to the border. And he really shut down the number of people illegally crossing. When it comes to... mass deportations, which is something Donald Trump said he was going to do during the elections. He got started on it, but his numbers are below most presidents when it comes to deportations. He's had struggles there. And a lot of that's because when they've taken action, they've been sued. Every move they make to deport people has ended up in a lawsuit. And then when they went into Minneapolis, Things got really, really heated. Protesters showed up. They started blowing whistles, alerting criminals that the ICE and Border Patrol were in the neighborhood. And, you know, we had a couple of deaths there from protesters. And we haven't heard much about the deportation effort since Minneapolis. Of course, the war has been keeping us busy, and people have mixed feelings about the war. Most people don't think it was necessary. They didn't feel there was an imminent danger in that it wasn't the right time to go in. Donald Trump said that it was the right time to go in, that we needed to take out their Ayatollah while we had the chance. And he did, and he said he was going to make sure they never have nukes again, and that's what he's working on. But it's coming at a huge cost, I think. I think I saw the military budget, I think I read earlier this morning, that the military budget, they're asking for one and a half trillion dollars this year. And that, that, that weighs on the economy. If you're spending that much money on the military, other parts of the economy are going to suffer. Let's go to Mike and to come see. Mike, welcome to all talk. Hey, uh, Good to talk to you. You know, Benjamin Netanyahu talked Mr. Trump into going to war with Iran. Okay, he was there a week before. It's before that he was against doing anything. Benjamin Netanyahu was there that he's, there's no justification to this war except for that or the Epstein files, okay? What do you think? What do you think Benjamin Netanyahu said to Trump that he was able to talk him into it?

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Oh, I'll do your favor or something. It doesn't matter. Also, the thing, the embargo of oil against Cuba is just totally wrong. You know what the price of gas of Cuba is? 30 bucks a gallon. I mean, those people are hurting down there because we have stopped oil supply to that country. Why are we making these people suffer? So we can take them over? What's the reason behind it? Yeah. I'll tell you what, this country has gone upside down. We're going to war. There's less justification for going to war in Iran that there was justification for going to war in Iraq. And that was that was baloney. Going to war in Iraq was baloney. There were no weapons of mass destruction. There were no weapons of mass destruction here either. They had not reconstituted enough uranium. And by the way, you can detect this stuff from space, for God's sake. Thanks, Mike. I appreciate your call. A lot of people feel the way you do. The majority of people feel we should not have gone in and attacked Iran at this point. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Dietz. It's all talk on a Friday morning. I'm Kevin Deetz coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-8-5-9-07, 1-800-5-90 W-JR. Give us a call. Give us a text to be a part of the show. All right, Paige Shriver, a former executive assistant to now fired Michigan football coach Sharon Moore says she experienced years of manipulation, harassment, and exploitation tied to what's been described as an inappropriate relationship with a superior. She appeared this morning on Good Morning America. Here's a man that had complete control over me. over my emotions, over my career. And he knew that, and he used it against me. He, every time I tried to pull away, every time I tried to try and get out of even Michigan. He always had a story, always had a way to pull me in and making me feel that I couldn't leave him because he was so miserable without me. She said she was impregnated by the former coach and had to give up the pregnancy due to health risks. Moore was fired and later sentenced to probation after breaking into her home following the fallout. She said during that incident, she was very concerned for her safety and she felt that Moore should have been sentenced harsher than he was. Let's bring in Roshima, attorney, political strategist, and host of the Crisis Files podcast. Good morning. How are you?

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Hi, Kevin. Wow, there are just so many layers to this story. I don't even know if our time on the radio is enough today, but... this is just, it's not shocking, but there are so many layers that are troubling for me as a crisis strategist. Well, I didn't realize that this was going on for four years. I had read that, you know, a lot of people may have known about this. If it was going on for that long, I'm surprised that he was able to be hired as the coach at Michigan. I didn't know that she was pregnant. There's just a lot here. What are your thoughts as you look at the interview? Well, I want to start by saying there's no part of me that wants to victim blame. When I hear, however, that someone has been in a situation for as long as they are. And again, he was definitely in the wrong. There is no doubt about that. But there are places. I mean, these are some lessons that your listeners can learn from this situation. Every place of employment has an HR office. Yes, those HR offices are meant to protect the brand. But if you go to them and have a claim of sexual harassment, sexual intimidate, any kind of workplace harassment, they really need to take it seriously. And the law is on your side. So I feel for her that for whatever reason, she did not feel empowered to. tell a friend who could then go report it, all of these different things that I wish she could have done, would have done, and both of those people wouldn't have been here today. The fact that she got pregnant, and I don't know all the details about that, was she claiming rape. I mean, it takes a couple things to get someone pregnant. So there's also that part of you that wonders was she also in it for a relationship. Did she really? believe the lies that he was going to leave his family for her. I mean, there are just so many additional questions I have, so I don't want to pass major judgment on her. As far as he goes, it's just so sad because University of Michigan has such a strong program. You know, they're in it for the highs and the good headlines, and obviously this is such a bad, low headline. But this is a situation where I really hope the law does its job, and he serves his time and, you know, all of these different things. Obviously, his reputation is he'll never do that kind of job again. But I also hope the reporters of Michigan look at University of Michigan and investigate why could this kind of thing happen. So she was afraid. She worked in the football program. He was the football coach. He was an assistant coach and then the head coach. She was worried that, you know, he had all this power and that if that she'd come forward, that she'd lose her job or this or that. Is that a misguided belief? If you go to HR at the University of Michigan, are you assured that they will take it seriously?

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You're never assured of that. But even just making the claim and making sure it's documented, even if you get fired, you then have a claim against University of Michigan. And I know that's an uphill battle. A lot of it can be expensive. But we are now in a climate where victims are believed more than ever, especially if they have legitimate cases. And there's a lot that would have been on her side. Again, we can look at it in hindsight now, but if this wasn't a four-month thing, if she's saying it's about a four-year thing, then you have to also ask, if this were ever to go to some kind of civil case and he's, you know, the defense side of this, his attorneys would be asking, why don't you just use your own adult knowledge and get out of the situation? You know, I mean, that is something that lawyers have to ask. and the court system does ask, no matter how sympathetic a victim may seem. Yeah, if it gets to that point and the claims are manipulation or coercion, what needs to be proven legally? Well, I mean, if there's any kind of documentation that that language, even just in the pregnancy situation, how did that come about? I mean, was that rape? Was that a sexual misconduct situation? I mean, there were so many things that would be on her side. And look, I don't expect that most regular citizens fully understand the law. Even a lot of lawyers have trouble sometimes with the nuances of the law. But there's so much here. So there's a lot of it, and I haven't seen the full interview on Good Morning America, just parts of it. But I would want to know what kind, did you go to anybody else? Did you tell anybody else about this? Because if she told other people inside of University of Michigan and they did nothing, then we have an even bigger situation of some civil liability here. of the University of Michigan and its employees. Yeah, they had said, I don't know if they said this in the interview because it was happening while I was on the air, but beforehand, at least the university, had said that they had heard these rumors and they called each of them individually into the office to ask if there was something going on between them, and both of them denied that when asked about it. So they went about their business. And then only after she came in months later and said something is going on, did they act? Does that preclude them from being sued? It sounds like it's pretty powerful. If true. Once they knew, once they knew it probably doesn't. But if initially she didn't share and tell the truth, I mean, that's called lying. And we don't allow lying in a court of law if it got there, right? So she might have had her reasons keeping your job and continuing to be part of a possible crime. isn't usually going to fly. And again, I said at the top, I'm not trying to blame the victim here, but it gets really difficult when the situation goes on for four years because I don't think she was claiming physical domestic abuse.

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That's a whole other set of law that we've seen, and a lot of times victims are the partner, you know, man or woman partner, and there are children involved. It's a lot harder to protect yourself or maybe a financial situation. You know, here she was living on her own. She had her own place. She could monetarily support herself. So there are some things that are gaps for her if this were to go to court. Yeah, we only have a minute left, but I want you to take your lawyer hat off for a minute and put your crisis head on. Now that she's gone public with a story like this, what do people do with this? Well, I mean, anyone who's interviewing her needs to ask all those tough questions. They can't immediately assume she is faultless or blameless in this situation. And she and whomever is supporting her need to also make sure she's always telling the truth. And if it looks suspicious, like some of the things we've talked about today, she has to have a story for that. So that's what I would say. always a bummer when this kind of situation gives you your 15 minutes of fame because there are truly great stories out there and great people out there who deserve the airtime. And I'll just say, I'll just say that as a crisis strategist, Kevin. Rashini Rushdemar, attorney political strategist and host of the crisis files. Thanks for the conversation this morning. Have a great day. Yeah, have a great weekend. It's All Talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. Happy Friday. Welcome into the 11 o'clock hour of all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz along with Marie Osborne, bringing you the latest headlines and the stories that everyone is talking about. Former Michigan House Speaker Tom Leonard has ended his campaign for governor, citing an increasingly negative Republican primary. Leonard said internal attacks within the party were becoming damaging and could hurt GOP chances in the general election. He had entered the race in June. 25 running on issues like energy affordability, government transparency, and ethics reform. However, he faced a crowded and competitive field that includes John James and businessman Perry Johnson. Recent tensions including a lawsuit between rival campaigns underscored the intensity of the primary battle. Leonard also trailed competitors in fundraising, making his path to the nomination much more difficult. He did not announce his next political move, but said he will continue advocating for his core issues. The race for Michigan governor remains wide open ahead of the August primary with Democrats and an independent candidate also in the mix. The government is looking to lend a hands to struggling spirit airlines, which filed for its second bankruptcy in two years. Wednesday, the White House was nearing a deal to provide the low-cost airline with a $500 million loan. But Thursday, President Trump told reporters in the Oval Office that the government might buy the company outright for the right price. I'd love to be able to save those jobs. I'd love to be able to save an airline. I like having a lot of airlines, so it's competitive. Great people and great employees. We're thinking about doing it, helping them out, meaning bailing them out or buying it. I think we'd just buy it. We'd be getting it virtually debt-free. They have some good aircraft, good assets, and when the prices of oil goes down, we'll sell it for a profit. Republican Senator Ted Cruz of Texas criticized the loan offer on X, calling it, quote, terrible, all caps. Fellow Republican Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas joined in saying if the company's creditors or investors don't see a way to bring it back to life, then he can't see the government saving it either.

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The Detroit Tigers stormed back for a dramatic 5 to 4 win over the Milwaukee Brewers, capped by a walk-off home run from Spencer Torkelson. This was the call from Jason Benetti. Completely down. Tork bashes it. Left field and out of here! A torque bomb sends everyone. A walk-off home run is so fun. The whole team runs out of the dugout. It just mugs me. It reminds me of like Little League when a kid gets a hit. Really fun. The Tigers overcame a late stumble from Ace Terek Scuble, who allowed four runs after cruising through much of the game. Scoobel dominated early, retiring the first 11 batters and showing strong command before running into trouble in the seventh inning. The Brewers briefly took the lead after stringing together hits and capitalizing on soft contact. Detroit answered in the eighth with Jemai Jum. Jay Jones delivered a clutch, pinch hit home run to tie the game. Strong relief pitching kept the game within reach, heading into the final inning. Then in the ninth, Torkelson crushed a high-velocity pitch for the game-winning Homer. The victory gives the Tigers momentum as they continue a strong stretch, winning 10 of their last 13 games. We mentioned this story here the other day. Now we learned that Florida is opening an investigation into Open AI and its product, Chet, GPT, for its alleged connection to the Florida State University shooting that killed two people. and injured seven others. The suspect, 20-year-old Phoenix Eichner, allegedly consulted the chat box on how to carry out the crime. On Fox, Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier says it even told him what gun to use. What ammunition to put in the gun. What time of day to go on campus and where to go on campus to come into contact with the most people. He wanted to be famous. He wanted to be on TV. Chat GPT told him how many people. he needed to shoot to get national news. Eichner's been charged with two counts of first-degree murder, seven counts of attempted first-degree murder. OpenAI says it's cooperating and claims the chat GPT gave factual answers using publicly available sources. Steve Iserman addressed the media and struck a far more subdued tone after the Detroit Red Wings missed the playoffs for the 10th straight season. But he made it clear he isn't going anywhere. Despite growing frustration from fans, Iserman indicated no major changes are coming to the roster or the coaching staff. This was Iserman. Well, the most obvious would be, you know, we need to. We need. better players. You know, we need to improve specifically in certain areas. We can talk about goal scoring. We need to improve in that area, particularly five on five. Collectively, if you're watching the playoffs, and I'm assuming it, I'm hoping our players are, to play with the intensity and determination. needed to be successful to make the playoffs and get there. But ultimately it's incumbent upon me and my staff to improve the team.

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Iserman pointed to young talent development and a competitive late season push is positives. Ownership led by Christopher Illich is reportedly supportive, though largely silent publicly. Critics argue the lack of urgency and major changes is concerning giving the prolonged drought. Iserman maintains the team needs time, but also admitted key areas like scoring depth and toughness must improve. The Justice Department's Inspector General is launching a review on how the DOJ handled the release of files connected to the convicted. sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. This watchdog says it will examine how the department identified, collected, redacted, and released Epstein-related documents after criticism from Congress over heavy redactions and limited disclosures. Those records were ordered released under the Epstein Files Transparency Act passed last November after years of frustration over the DOJ promises including claims of a contact or co-conspirator list that never surfaced. So far, only Epstein and his longtime associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, now serving 20-year jail sentence, has been charged. Some lawmakers said a DOJ has failed the victims. Congressman Thomas Massie argues accountability is still missing in this story. Jamie Ding is making headlines off the Jeopardy game show stage, filing a federal court motion. opposing the Trump administration's effort to access voter registration data in New Jersey. The legal action came just days before his historic jeopardy winning streak began. Ding argues that releasing sensitive voter information could lead to retaliation against individuals based on their political views. The Justice Department is seeking access to voter roles in multiple states, citing election security and transparency. State officials, including those in New Jersey and Michigan, have pushed back questioning the legality of the request. Ding, a politically... active Democrats said he fears the move could discourage civic participation, especially among immigrant communities. Several advocacy groups have joined similar legal efforts to block the data requests. The case adds a political dimension to Ding's public profile as his remarkable game show success continues. The Detroit N.ACP branch will hold its fight for Freedom Fund dinner on Sunday at Huntington Place. The dinner has hosted presidents and noted political and civil rights leaders in its history, including Thurgood Marshall. Presidents Barack Obama and Joe Biden and others. This year's keynote will be by Congressman Hakeem Jeffries and will feature a special tribute to Jesse Jackson. The 69th annual dinner back in 2024 served 5,000 guests made it the largest annual dining event in the country. This was Donald Trump talking about the Navy secretary he just fired. He's a wonderful guy. He just put out a statement about him. He's a very good man. I really liked him, but he had some conflict with, not necessarily Pete, with some other. He's a hard charger, and he had some conflicts with some other people, mostly as to building and buying their ships. He's a tough read that Donald Trump. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. It's all talk on a Friday morning. I'm Kevin Deeds coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-8-9-09-7. Give us a call. Give us a text. 1-800-9-0-WJR. In fact, we're going to read your text and take your calls at 1135. So pick up the phone and be a part of the show. Right now we're talking about something that should get every driver's attention because this isn't the old-school car theft.

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that you think of. There's no smashed windows, no hot wiring, no stealing your keys. Federal prosecutors say a high-tech theft ring has been using a device called an Autel programmer, basically a tool that can access a car's internal computer system and then reprogram it on the spot. In seconds, it tells your car this new key. is the real key. And just like that, your car is gone. Join us now is Steve Dolat, retired Detroit Police Assistant Chief. Good morning, sir. How are you? Very good. It's a nice day out. Beautiful day, yeah. Well, I guess with this car theft deal, at least there's not all that broken glass all over the street. Yeah, but you also lose your car a lot easier. Yeah. I mean, this thing, if you have a car that's pre-1996. They didn't have fobs back then. Right. So it's not going to work on that. But now with the technology, these guys, if they did something legally, you know, rich they'd be? Unbelievable. I guess this must be well organized, though, because they're saying that they use this device, and I don't, I did Google it to see what it was. I didn't see how expensive it was or if anyone can buy one, but it looked, it kind of looked like you could. But, you know, they're able to, one, reprogram the car and take it, but they're also able to disable. the tracking in the vehicles with this device? Yeah. They throw some new plates on it that they have ready to swap out. And all of a sudden, this thing is shipped overseas before people might even know it's stolen. Well, I did Google it, and you can buy it, like Jeannie Pearl said, you can buy it on Amazon. But they have regular websites you can buy this on. Actually, that company's website. And it's under 500 bucks. And it's supposed to be a diagnostic tool, but like you said, they come in, they reprogram the key fob. And they've been doing this at a lot of these automotive lots around Michigan and around the country. And they throw them in that container that says furniture and ship into the East Coast, either South Carolina or Baltimore, Maryland, and off they go to Africa, and they get top dollar for those things. And again, it's not like you said. They don't break the glass. They don't break the steering column. And just in and out and you're sleeping. You have no clue what's going on. Did you notice anything on the website that you went to that said, you know, that this is supposed to be restricted for certified mechanics or, or, or, hey, don't use this to steal a car. It's actually on locksmith.com. Yeah. Because the deal is, I lock myself out of my car. You show up with the tool, boom, boom, you're in, you're in my car. It changes the five. But like you said, it also can disengage the GPS. Hope no criminals are listening to this program. But it just, you know, the GPS, and like you said, they roll it in, change plates real quick, so it's not reported stolen, throw it on the cargo carrier, shoot to Maryland or South Carolina, and off it goes to Africa.

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Well, I, you know, usually I do these stories to warn people so that they can, you know, take some sort of position to protect themselves. I don't even know. I don't even know if anyone can protect themselves against this. The best you can do is get one of those steering wheel locks, you know. Honestly, it's about all you can do because once they're in, they're in. Right. You really can't do anything. So the steering wheel lock, that's that thing. You clip right on your steering wheel. So even if they get in, they can't take it because they can't move the wheel. They can't drive it. They can't steer the thing. Which, if I were going to steal a car and I looked in the car right away, because I only take a certain vehicles. The Honda, which is the city, which is the most, the car that's stolen the most, and some high-end vehicles. But if you look in the thing and you see that. Bar in the stereo, you might think twice about trying to change it because you need a freaking hacksaw. I don't think I've seen one of those bars in 20 years. It's been a long. Thank you. It's been a long time. A long time. But I'm sure they're out. I'm sure they're happy right now. They probably will sell a bunch of those babies for sure. So I guess they figure out which make a model they can make the most profit off of because they can take almost any car except for, like you said, the older ones that still require a key. Yeah. And there's high demand in Africa for nice cars. And again, the Honda Civic is the one that's sold the most. But you get a high-end car and people have money and they're paying you to steal this car, maybe a couple hundred dollars. And they're flipping it over there for, you know. tens of thousands, maybe, you know, over $100,000 for a car. So they're making out. But again, anyone can get this product online. And there's no restrictions. You can just buy it. And once you, I'm sure they give you a manual, and once you figure it out, you're good to go. And unfortunately, because it's not a crime against a person, it normally isn't a top priority for law enforcement. Is there, because it's a property crime? Is there any way to, um, have better security or law enforcement to stop the ability to ship these vehicles? How does that even work? How do you know, we just say, oh, they're shipped overseas. I mean, how does that work? Well, they dummy up the invoices or the shipping stuff because it goes in these containers that say furniture. It's like when they bring dope over here from, you know, Canada and Mexico. It doesn't say drugs on the, on the shipping container. It says whatever, and they hide it. So you can try you have drug-sniffing dogs, but for cars. I don't think there's car sniffing dogs out there. And quite honestly, they're probably overwhelmed with drugs coming into the country that they're not really focusing on cars. They did this thing in Dearborn. Wasn't that last year? They caught them. Yeah. So it's a very lucrative thing. Again, you're technically not hurting anybody. It's not a crime against a person. So it's not a high thing for police to look at it. But. insurance goes up, you lose your car, and they get a slap on the risk because, you know, they've never committed a crime before.

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Really? No, I don't think there's a way. What if they change the law or the penalties, I should say, for breaking that law? I don't know if they could do it by the amount of money or instead of by first time or, you know, or third time of offender. But would that deter people or do the penalties not really deter criminals the way we think they might? The problem is they get a low bond. Well, they're not a threat to society, says the defense attorney. A threat to me. They took my car. Put them in jail and let them sit there. Well, they're innocent until proven guilty. It's fine. Let them sit there two weeks. Their preliminary examination. Then give them a high bond because they got all this money selling cars. And you might think twice. And the defense attorney will argue with me. I get it. But until their car is stolen and they're like, well, that's different. No, it's not different. Right? What about, so they disable the tracking system because they have this device that allows them to reprogram the car. What if you throw one of those tracking devices somewhere in the car? Is this the kind of crime where you could call the police and say, look, I'm looking on my phone right now. I'm watching, you know, I know the exact location of my car. Is this something that police would respond to? Would this even possibly help? Okay. It just enables a GPS in the car. But I think if you buy an I tag, you know, like people get that shirt for it. I think they don't know that. Then you can probably track your car. And then you call it, please say, hey, my car stolen and an eye tag on it. Here's where it's at. Boom, boom, boom. And provided you not, you know, going to a homicide or something. So maybe that's. Yeah, get an eye tag. Maybe that's something that would work. You throw an eye tag in there, and then you've got to, at least if it gets taken, you have that ability. That and the steering will lock. For sure, I don't think that many people will get the steering wheel locked. No, but an eye tag. Inconvenience, but an eye tag would be good. That would be helpful. Yeah. It'd be great. Those things aren't terribly expensive either, are they? Oh. And can you imagine they look on a criminal's face? And it goes, wait a minute, how did you find me? Because you're stupid? Right. And give you a night tag here. And guess what? You're going to jail. Is this the kind of thing that if they catch a couple of these people, they can climb the ladder and find out who's behind this? Because this does, to me, feel like this is organized crime. Oh, it is organized crime, no doubt. Not the mafia, per se, but organized crime, yeah. And the Fed will take it and they'll start a task force. But those are long-term investigations. And I can do it overnight because Jeannie Piro did it. She's the U.S. Turner, right? Yeah, in New York. So it takes a while to build this, right? If you can nail them, there you go. And I'm surprised no one said, you get an eye tag. Right. Right. That's why I'm here. That's why I'm here, Steve. That's why you're here. I'm here to help the people. What, do you get stock in the I tag or what? Oh, geez. Okay. All right. It's all-tel programmer. I don't know. I'm going to take a closer look at this thing. But I think, I don't know. I don't have the car that's stolen most. But I think if I did have the car that's stolen most, I might invest in one of those steering wheel locks. But I'm definitely going to pick up some eye tags. Get some eyegs. Get some eyegs. Get them into the kids' cars in my car. There you go. Steve Dole, retired Detroit Police Assistant Chief. Have a fabulous and very safe weekend.

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You too. Take care, man. All right. Yeah, really a huge problem. The U.S. Attorney in New York coming out saying they busted some people and figured out how this thing is working, and it is really fast. Gone in 60 seconds, they called it. It's all talk. Your calls are next. Happy Friday. Welcome into the 11 o'clock hour of all talk. I'm Kevin Dietz along with Marie Osborne, bringing you the latest headlines and the stories that everyone is talking about. Former Michigan House Speaker Tom Leonard has ended his campaign for governor, citing an increasingly negative Republican primary. Leonard said internal attacks within the party were becoming damaging and could hurt GOP chances in the general election. He had entered the race in June 25 running on issues like energy affordability, government transparency, and ethics reform. However, he faced a crowded and competitive field that includes John James and businessman Perry Johnson. Recent tensions including a lawsuit between rival campaigns underscored the intensity of the primary battle. Leonard also trailed competitors and fundraising. making his path to the nomination much more difficult. He did not announce his next political move, but said he will continue advocating for his core issues. The race for Michigan governor remains wide open ahead of the August primary with Democrats and an independent candidate also in the mix. The government is looking to lend a hands to struggling spirit airlines, which filed for its second bankruptcy in two years. Wednesday, the White House was nearing a deal to provide the low-cost airline with a $500 million loan. But Thursday, President Trump told reporters in the Oval Office that the government might buy the company outright for the right price. I'd love to be able to save those jobs. I'd love to be able to save an airline. I like having a lot of airlines, so it's competitive. Great people and great employees. We're thinking about doing it, helping them out, meaning bailing them out or buying it. I think we'd just buy it. We'd be getting it virtually debt-free. They have some good aircraft, good assets, and when the prices of oil goes down, we'll sell it for a profit. Republican Senator Ted Cruz of Texas criticized the loan offer on X, calling it, quote, terrible, all caps. Fellow Republican Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas joined in saying if the company's creditors or investors don't see a way to bring it back to life, then he can't see the government saving it either. The Detroit Tigers stormed back for a dramatic five to four win over the Milwaukee Brewers, capped by a walk-off home run from Spencer Torkelson. This was the call from Jason Benetti. Completely down. Torque bashes it, left field, and out of here! A torque bomb sends every...

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A walk-off home run is so fun. The whole team runs out of the dugout. It just mugs me. It reminds me of like Little League when a kid gets a hit. Really fun. The Tigers overcame a late stumble from Ace Terek Scuble, who allowed four runs after cruising through much of the game. Scoobel dominated early, retiring the first 11 batters and showing strong command before running into trouble in the seventh inning. The Brewers briefly took the lead after stringing together hits and capitalizing on soft contact. Detroit answered in the eighth with Jemai Jum. Jay Jones delivered a clutch, pinch hit home run to tie the game. Strong relief pitching kept the game within reach, heading into the final inning. Then in the ninth, Torkelson crushed a high-velocity pitch for the game-winning Homer. The victory gives the Tigers momentum as they continue a strong stretch, winning 10 of their last 13 games. We mentioned this story here the other day. Now we learned that Florida is opening an investigation into Open AI and its product, Chet, GPT, for its alleged connection to the Florida State University shooting that killed two people. and injured seven others. The suspect, 20-year-old Phoenix Eichner, allegedly consulted the chat box on how to carry out the crime. On Fox, Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier says it even told him what gun to use. What ammunition to put in the gun. What time of day to go on campus and where to go on campus to come into contact with the most people. He wanted to be famous. He wanted to be on TV. Chat GPT told him how many people. he needed to shoot to get national news. Eichner's been charged with two counts of first-degree murder, seven counts of attempted first-degree murder. OpenAI says it's cooperating and claims the chat GPT gave factual answers using publicly available sources. Steve Iserman addressed the media and struck a far more subdued tone after the Detroit Red Wings missed the playoffs for the 10th straight season. But he made it clear he isn't going anywhere. Despite growing frustration from fans, Iserman indicated no major changes are coming to the roster or the coaching staff. This was Eisenman. Well, the most obvious would be, you know, we need better players. You know, we need to improve specifically in certain areas. We can talk about goal scoring. We need to improve in that area, particularly five-on-five. Collectively, if you're watching the playoffs, and I'm assuming it, I'm hoping our players are, to play with the intensity and determination needed to be successful to make the playoffs and get there. But ultimately, it's incumbent upon me and my staff to improve the team. Iserman pointed to young talent development and a competitive late season push is positives. Ownership led by Christopher Illich is reportedly supportive, though largely silent publicly. Critics argue the lack of urgency and major changes is concerning giving the prolonged drought. Iserman maintains the team needs time, but also admitted key areas like scoring depth and toughness must improve. The Justice Department's Inspector General is launching a review on how the DOJ handled the release of files connected to the convicted. sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. This watchdog says it will examine how the department identified, collected, redacted, and released Epstein-related documents after criticism from Congress over heavy redactions and limited disclosures. Those records were ordered released under the Epstein Files Transparency Act passed last November after years of frustration over the

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DOJ promises including claims of a contact or co-conspirator list that never surfaced. So far, only Epstein and his longtime associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, now serving 20-year jail sentence, has been charged. Some lawmakers say the DOJ has failed the victims. Congressman Thomas Massie argues accountability is still missing in this story. Jamie Ding is making headlines off the Jeopardy game show stage, filing a federal court motion. opposing the Trump administration's effort to access voter registration data in New Jersey. The legal action came just days before his historic jeopardy winning streak began. Ding argues that releasing sensitive voter information could lead to retaliation against individuals based on their political views. The Justice Department is seeking access to voter roles in multiple states, citing election security and transparency. State officials, including those in New Jersey and Michigan, have pushed back questioning the legality of the request. Ding, a politically... active Democrats said he fears the move could discourage civic participation, especially among immigrant communities. Several advocacy groups have joined similar legal efforts to block the data requests. The case adds a political dimension to Ding's public profile as his remarkable game show success continues. The Detroit NWACP branch will hold its fight for Freedom Fund dinner on Sunday at Huntington Place. The dinner has hosted presidents and noted political and civil rights leaders in its history, including Thurgood Marshall. Presidents Barack Obama and Joe Biden and others. This year's keynote will be by Congressman Hakeem Jeffries and will feature a special tribute to Jesse Jackson. The 69th annual dinner back in 2024 served 5,000 guests made it the largest annual dining event in the country. This was Donald Trump talking about the Navy secretary he just fired. He's a wonderful guy. He just put out a statement about him. He's a very good man. I really liked him, but he had some conflict with, not necessarily Pete, with some other. He's a hard charger, and he had some conflicts with some other people, mostly as to building and buying their ships. He's a tough read that Donald Trump. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deeds. It's all talk on a Friday morning. I'm Kevin Deeds coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-859-0-957. Give us a call. Give us a text. 1-800-9-0-WJR. In fact, we're going to read your text and take your calls at 1135. So pick up the phone and be a part of the show. Right now we're talking about something that should get every driver's attention because this isn't the old-school. car theft that you think of. There's no smashed windows, no hot wiring, no stealing your keys. Federal prosecutors say a high-tech theft ring has been using a device called an Autel programmer, basically a tool that can access a car's internal computer system and then reprogram it on the spot. In seconds, it tells your car this new key. is the real key. And just like that, your car is gone. Join us now is Steve Dolat, retired Detroit Police Assistant Chief. Good morning, sir. How are you? Very good. It's a nice day out. Beautiful day, yeah. Well, I guess with this car theft deal, at least there's not all that broken glass all over the street. Yeah, but you also lose your car lighting. Yeah. I mean, this thing, if you have a car that's pre-1996.

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They didn't have fobs back then. Right. So it's not going to work on that. But now with the technology, these guys, if they did something legally, you know, rich they'd be? Unbelievable. I guess, I guess this must be well organized, though, because they're saying that they use this device, and I don't, I did Google it to see what it was. I didn't see how expensive it was or if anyone can buy one, but it looked, it kind of looked like you could. But, you know, they're able to, one, reprogram the car and take it, but they're also able to disable the tracking in the vehicles with this device. They throw some new plates on it that they have ready to swap out. And all of a sudden, this thing is shipped overseas before people might even know it's stolen. Well, I did Google it. And you can buy it, like Jeannie Piro said, you can buy it on Amazon. But they have regular websites you can buy this on. Actually, that company's website. And it's under 500 bucks. And it's supposed to be a diagnostic tool. But like you said, they come in, they reprogram the key fob. And they've been doing this at a lot of these automotive lots around Michigan and around the country. And they throw them in that container that says furniture and ship into the East Coast, either South Carolina or Baltimore, Maryland. And off they go to Africa and they get top dollar for those things. And again, it's not like you said. They don't break the glass. They don't break the steering column. And just in and out and you're sleeping. You have no clue what's going on. Did you notice anything on the website that you went to that said, you know, that this is supposed to be restricted for certified mechanics or, or, or, hey, don't use this to steal a car. It's actually on locksmith.com. Yeah. Because the deal is, I lock myself out of my car. You show up with the tool, boom, boom, you're in, you're in my car. It changes the five. But like you said, it also can disengage the GPS. Hope no criminals are listening to this program. But it just, you know, the GPS, and like you said, they roll it in, change plates real quick, so it's not reported stolen, throw it on the cargo carrier, shoot to Maryland or South Carolina, and off it goes to Africa. Well, I, you know, usually I do these stories to warn people so that they can, you know, take some sort of position to protect themselves. I don't even know. I don't even know if anyone can protect themselves against this. The best you can do is get one of those steering wheel locks, you know. Honestly, it's about all you can do because once they're in, they're in. Right. You really can't do anything. So the steering wheel lock, that's that thing. You clip right on your steering wheel. So even if they get in, they can't take it because they can't move the wheel. They can't drive it. They can't steer the thing. Which, if I were going to steal a car and I looked in the car right away, because I only take a certain vehicles. The Honda, which is the city, which is the most, the car that's stolen the most, and some high-end vehicles. But if you look in the thing and you see that.

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Bar, I'm a stereo. You might think twice about trying to change it because you need a freaking hacksaw. I guess I don't think I've seen one of those bars in 20 years. It's been a long. Thank you. It's been a long time. A long time. But I'm sure they're out. I'm sure they're happy right now. They probably will sell a bunch of those babies for sure. So I guess they figure out which make a model they can make the most profit off of because they can take almost any car except for, like you said, the older ones that still require a key. Yeah. And there's high demand in Africa for nice cars. And again, the Honda Civic is the one that's sold the most. But you get a high-end car and people have money and they're paying you to steal this car, maybe a couple hundred dollars. And they're flipping it over there for, you know. tens of thousands, maybe over $100,000 for a car. So they're making out. But again, anyone can get this product online. And there's no restrictions. You can just buy it. And once you, I'm sure they give you a manual. And once you figure it out, you're good to go. And unfortunately, because it's not a crime against a person, it normally isn't a top priority for law enforcement. Is there? Because it's a property crime. Is there any way to, um, have better security or law enforcement to stop the ability to ship these vehicles? How does that even work? How do you know, we just say, oh, they're shipped overseas. I mean, how does that work? Well, they dummy up the invoices or the shipping stuff because it goes in these containers that say furniture. It's like when they bring dope over here from, you know, Canada and Mexico. It doesn't say drugs on the shipping container. It says whatever, and they hide it. So you can try you have drug-snipping dogs, but for cars. I don't think there's car sniffing dogs out there. And quite honestly, they're probably overwhelmed with drugs coming into the country that they're not really focusing on cars. They did this thing in Dearborn. Wasn't that last year? They caught them. Yeah. So it's a very lucrative thing. Again, you're technically not hurting anybody. It's not a crime against a person. So it's not a high thing for police to look at it. But. insurance goes up, you lose your car, and they get a slap on the wrist because, you know, oh, they've never committed a crime before. Really? No, I don't think there's a way. What if they change the law or the penalties, I should say, for breaking that law? I don't know if they could do it by the amount of money or instead of by first time or, you know, or third time of offender. But would that deter people or do the penalties not really deter criminals the way we think they might? The problem is they get a low bond. Well, they're not a threat to society, says a defense attorney. A threat to me. They took my car. Put them in jail and let them sit there. Well, they're innocent until proven guilty. It's fine. Let him sit there two weeks. Their preliminary examination. Then give them a high bond because they got all this money selling cars. You might think twice. And the defense attorney will argue with me. I get it. But until their car is stolen and they're like, well, that's different. No, it's not different. Right?

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What about, so they disable the tracking system because they have this device that allows them to reprogram the car. What if you throw one of those tracking devices somewhere in the car? Is this the kind of crime where you could call the police and say, look, I'm looking on my phone right now. I'm watching, you know, I know the exact location of my car. Is this something that police would respond to? Would this even possibly help? Okay. It's disabled the GPS in the car. But I think if you buy an I tag, you know, like people get that shirt. I think they don't know that. Then you can probably track your car. And then you call it, please say, hey, my car stolen and an eye tag on it. Here's where it's at. Boom, boom, boom. And provided you not, you know, going to a homicide or something. So maybe that's. Yeah, get an eye tag. Maybe that's something that would work. You throw an eye tag in there, and then you've got to, at least if it gets taken, you have that ability. That and the steering will lock. For sure, I don't think that many people will get the steering wheel locked. No, but an eye tag. Inconvenience, but an eye tag would be good. That would be helpful. Yeah. It'd be great. Those things aren't terribly expensive either, are they? Oh. And can you imagine they look on a criminal's face? And it goes, wait a minute, how did you find me? Because you're stupid? Right. And give you a night tag here. And guess what? You're going to jail. Is this the kind of thing that if they catch a couple of these people, they can climb the ladder and find out who's behind this? Because this does, to me, feel like this is organized crime. Oh, it is organized crime, no doubt. Not the mafia, per se, but organized crime, yeah. And the Fed will take it and they'll start a task force. But those are long-term investigations. It's not going to do it overnight because Jeannie Piro did it. She's the U.S. Turner, right? Yeah, in New York. So it takes a while to build this, right? If you can nail them, there you go. And I'm surprised no one said you get an eye tag. Right. Right. That's why I'm here. That's why I'm here, Steve. That's why you're here. I'm here to help the people. What, do you get stock in the I tag or what? Oh, geez. Okay. All right. It's all-tel programmer. I don't know. I'm going to take a closer look at this thing. But I think I don't know. I don't have the car that's stolen most. But I think if I did have the car that's stolen most, I might invest in one of those steering wheel locks. But I'm definitely going to pick up some eyetags. Get some eyegs. Get some eyegs. And get them into the kids' cars in my car. There you go. Steve Dole, retired Detroit Police Assistant Chief. Have a fabulous and very safe weekend. You too. Take care, man. All right. Yeah, really a huge problem. The U.S. Attorney in New York coming out saying they busted some people and figured out how this thing is working, and it is really fast. Gone in 60 seconds, they called it. It's all talk. Your calls are next.