All Talk with Kevin Dietz ~ May 18, 2026 ~ Full Show

Good Monday morning. I hope you had a fabulous weekend. I'm Kevin Deeds bringing you the latest headlines and the stories everyone is talking about. I want to share something I experienced Saturday that was really cool. I was at Comerica Park watching the Detroit Tigers take on the Toronto Blue Jays during strikeout cancer weekend, benefiting Carmanos Cancer Institute. And I have to tell you, it was one of the most emotional and beautiful moments I've witnessed in person in a long time. Baseball. is often described as America's pastime. But on days like this, it becomes something much more meaningful. It becomes a gathering place, a place where tens of thousands of people, different ages, different backgrounds, different beliefs come together and remember that there are some battles far bigger than what happens between the foul lines. Cancer. Touches nearly every family. It's touched mine. It's touched yours. We all know someone who has heard those terrifying words. You have cancer. A spouse, a parent, a child, a sibling, a dear friend. And in that moment, life changes instantly. On Saturday, the Tigers organization, the players, the announcers, and the fans all came together to send a message to every person in the fight. You are not alone. As the tributes appeared on the scoreboard, as survivors were recognized, and as the crowd rose to applaud, the game itself became secondary. For a few minutes, the focus shifted from batting averages and box scores to courage and hope and love. And there were tears, so many tears in the stadium. Not because people were sad, but because they were reminded of how fragile life is and how powerful community can be. Think about what patients endure, the uncertainty, the treatments, the fear, the waiting. And then think about the family standing beside them, trying to be strong, even when they're scared themselves. That standing ovation was more than applause. It was a collective embrace, a stadium full of strangers saying, we see you, we honor you, we are with you. That is the best of sports, not just competition, but connection, not just entertainment, but empathy. In a world where so much seems divided, it was a profound reminder that some experiences unite us completely. Disease does not care about politics. Cancer does not care how much money you have or what team you root for. It humbles all of us. But it also reveals extraordinary strength, the strength of patients who keep fighting, the strength of families who never give up, the strength of doctors, nurses, and researchers who dedicate their lives to finding better treatments and cures. and the strength of communities willing to stand together. Saturday at Comerica Park was about baseball, but it was also about humanity. It was about honoring those we have lost, supporting those still fighting, and believing that hope is stronger than fear. So if you're battling cancer right now or walking beside someone who is, please hear this. An entire stadium stood up for you. An entire city is cheering for you. And all of us are hoping for your healing. That was the real victory on Saturday. And it's a moment I will not soon forget. Let's take a look at the news. The Detroit Pistons, oh, my gosh, the Detroit Pistons, they were eliminated from the playoffs with a 125 to 94 loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Detroit fell behind early and never recovered. Kate Cunningham and the Young Pistons, core struggle to find offensive rhythm. Cleveland's experience and shot-making overwhelmed Detroit on both ends of the floor. The Cavs won the series four to three after the Pistons had battled back to force a decisive seventh game. Despite the lopsided final score, Detroit pushed one of the East's top teams to the brink. It marked the franchise's most meaningful postseason run in years and provided valuable experience for a rising young team. Now, the Pistons are a really good team. You don't get to be a number one seat in the Eastern Conference without being really good. In the regular season, they perform night after night. And fans who watch often were really treated to just a fabulous year. And there's nothing wrong with getting to within one win of the Eastern Conference finals. It means the Pistons are close, but they still have to get better. What's so difficult this morning is they didn't go down swinging the way we know they can. They were outplayed, outshot, overwhelmed on the biggest stage of the season. Detroit basketball is supposed to be tough and gritty with no quit in it. That was nowhere to be found last night. Maybe they left it all in Cleveland, I don't know, with that big game six win. I'm not sure, but it was tough to watch last night, but let's not lose sight of the bigger picture. This team is no longer a punchline. It is getting really good, and they are really close. Kate Cunningham is a true franchise player, and the young core gained really valuable playoff experience. And for the first time and a long time, Piston fans have real hope. The ending hurt, but the future looks very bright. All right. A highly anticipated watch release drew crowds to Somerset Collection in Troy on Saturday, but the event did not go as planned, not by a long shot. Police had to be called to disperse a crowd that had gathered before the store opening. Marie Osborne. joins us now. She's following this. This was wild. It was wild. Shoppers began lining up before dawn, hoping to get their hands on this limited edition pocket watch. It was created through a collaboration between luxury brands, Audre Marz Pige and Swatch. The more affordable versions were priced in the $400 range, a fraction of what Audemar PJ's... typical cost is. Police say they were called to the mall around 4.30 in the morning as the crowd continued to grow and became difficult to manage. Officers from multiple agencies responded. They told... people to finally just go home after a while. They could not get the area under control. Now, despite all of that, hundreds of people returned to the malls to the mall at the scheduled opening time. Authorities began ordering the crowd to disperse, warning that anyone who stayed could face trespassing citations. Most people did leave, although a small number remained and expressed frustration before they two left. No arrests were made.

Now, because of this situation, the swatch store canceled the product release altogether, and this very same thing happened in Chicago at a mall there on Saturday as well. Now, some shoppers say they had been waiting for hours. They were really disappointed in how all this was handled. The limited edition time pieces inspired by classic designs by both of these brands were expected to be released in several styles. There's no word on when all of that is going to happen if you're interested in one of those. watches and also Kevin this all comes less than a week after a viral video showed a man involved in an anti-Muslim rant at the Louis Vuitton store at the Somerset Collection that man was arrested on hate charges among others he'll be in court this week yes you know you talk about all the marketing efforts the you know you try and get people excited about something This thing seemed to have just overwhelmed fans who wanted an opportunity to get these watches. And the fact that it happened in Chicago, too, and there were smaller dustups in other cities as well. It's really interesting. But I think we need to... figure out when events like this happen that maybe you just have extra people on call or something in case they take off. You never know if they're going to take off. It's like figuring out what's going to go viral. But I think this is a situation where you'd like to see that there's some sort of pre-planned for this kind of thing. You would have thought, you know, Swatch is a very popular brand among younger people. I mean, it's a very, it's the cool thing to have. And then there's this collaboration they had with Audemar's PJ. And so this just... sent it to the stratosphere. You mentioned, does it go viral? Well, they know what's happening on social media. These companies know that people are really, all you've got to do is look at the comments. You're going to know this is going to be a big brand opening, and they should have probably warned the police. Yeah. And boy, young people are really into watches. So this is also a crowd that they could have expected or anticipated it was going to be younger rather than an older crowd. Absolutely. Not to pick on the younger. Old people can be a problem. too. Can we? I don't know. Anyway, hey, coming up at 1018, we're going to talk to Steve Dolan, retired Detroit Police Assistant and Chief about this situation. So stay tuned for that. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. It's All Talk. I'm Kevin Deeds. It's all talk on a Monday morning. I'm Kevin Deeds coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-8-9-0-9-5-7-1-800-9-0-W-JR. We're going to take your calls, read your text coming up at 935, so pick up the phone and be a part of the show. So for eight years, Jerome Powell sat in one of the most powerful and difficult jobs in the world. As chair of the Federal Reserve for President Biden and President Trump, Jerome Powell guided the U.S. economy through a global pandemic, the fastest inflation surge in four decades, aggressive interest rate hikes, and unprecedented political pressure. pressure from President Donald Trump. His supporters say he helped prevent an economic collapse in 2020 and ultimately brought inflation back under control without triggering a recession. Critics argue the Fed waited too long to respond to rising prices contributing to the painful inflation that squeezed families across America. Join us now is Patrick Anderson, founder and CEO of Anderson Economic Group. Good morning, sir. How are you?

Okay, how are you, Kevin? I'm doing well. Let's do the good, the bad, and the ugly. Overall, what kind of grade would you give Jerome Powell if you did an overall? I mean, Jerome Powell finishes strong. I was, as you know, because you and I talked about it, a pretty strong critic of the Fed during the now wanting to be forgotten transitory era when the Biden administration was just pumping money out. And the Fed was just subsidizing it with essentially printing money and quantitative easing and low interest rates. And that led unquestionably to a huge surge in inflation, which the Biden administration and the Fed under Jerome Powell called transitory. Well, that was wrong. But. We do have an independent Federal Reserve Board. And that is a very, very important thing for the United States of America and for the world. And Jerome Powell has defended that, even under tremendous pressure from the current administration. And because of all that, I'd have to say, hey, you earned your A with your performance during your last couple of years in office. Yeah, talk a little bit about that because, I mean, Donald Trump really came at Jerome Powell hard. And Jerome Powell stood his ground and said, I'm going to do what I'm going to do. I'm going to do what I think is right. And in this office needs to be independent. And I think people feel that he finishes that way. And they're waiting to see what's going to happen next. That's right. you know, we're used to seeing people on social media criticize each other, and I think it's often tawtery, and they shouldn't do that, and they should act like it don't. But it's not easy to be called a moron by the President of the United States, and especially when you were in a policymaking position in the monetary system. And the President Trump said that he wasn't a very smart man. He used a lot of other. harsh words for him. And of course, he had appointed him, nominated him. So this was hard, but he stuck at his job. And I give somebody who sticks at their job and does their work a lot of credit. So that's one of the reasons why as Jerome Powell retires from his position of chair, although he's still a governor, I give him a lot of credit. Well, as you watched them raise and lower interest rates, Did he do it timely? Did he do it? Was he slow to react? Was he working through it? What are your thoughts? Well, here's the technical criticisms, and I've made them before. All right. So I'm sure we've got some people nodding their heads out there because they remember me saying it. The whole transitory, like inflation's transitory, that chapter was really embarrassing. And it's for the Fed, it was for the Biden administration, for their enablers in Congress, and for a good chunk of people in the news media that just repeated it when it was clear that that was no longer anything that could be supported by facts.

So that's in the negative column. I think they're saying, well, he helped rescue prevent a collapse. I think a lot of people in government overplayed what happened during the pandemic, exaggerated. misused government authority. And the Fed, you can argue, was on the modest side of that. They dramatically increased the money supply too fast, hung on too long. But it's true. I mean, we had no financial panic and good for them. So that's a little bit on the demeric column. But the big, solid thing is we have an independent Federal Reserve Board. Even Kevin Warsh, who just came on, was just approved by the Senate, hasn't been sworn in yet, said that the Federal Reserve Board was going to continue to be independent. So that is a big win for the institution, for the U.S. economy. and for stability. And a lot of that is due to Jerome Powell. I suppose under Paul, we had a technical recession, but we didn't have a deep recession, and a lot of people predicted that we would. Did he help avoid a recession or a worse recession? Well, let me just make a technical correction here on your technical point. We had an extremely severe recession, Mr. Deach. We had one of the worst unemployment outbreaks in the recent history of the United States. We had depression-level unemployment in 2020. Because by force of government, we essentially shut down the economy, sent people home, closed school, did a whole bunch of things, which in many in retrospect were huge overreactions. But it was a short-lived recession. But it was extremely severe. And the Fed doesn't get blamed for that. That's other government officials. It was transitory. You got me on that one. Speaking of transitory, I keep hearing Donald Trump saying the gas prices are temporary. And every time he says that, it reminds me of transitory in your conversation. Well, yeah. And then here you are. You're in a situation where it is war. It's unpredictable. And I don't know, and you've asked me that, and I don't know what the course of the war will be, nor do I know who to ask about that. It's a war. It has all the uncertainties of that. But when we were talking about the episode where inflation kept on, this went on for months, in fact, over a year. And there was no uncertainty about it. It was definitely due to...

The Biden administration spending, Congress is huge spending, and then the Federal Reserve accommodating that with quantitative easing and low interest rates. What do you want to see Kevin Warsh do? What do you think is going to happen with interest rates? Is something going to happen that's going to get the housing market moving? Oh, Kevin Warsh is taking office at a time when, you know, you've got a war going on. You have fuel prices going up. There's nothing the Fed created, but they have to deal with it. It's very hard to tamp inflation down when, you know, diesel fuel prices are above six. I just filled up yesterday. And for the first time in my life, I paid $150 to fill up a tank. So it was a lot. It affects you, and it's not just money. It affects you psychologically as somebody. That's one of the prices that Americans see every week and affects their view of other prices, perhaps in an exaggerated way, but it's a very strong signal of them. it's very difficult for him to deliver on what his intention is here, which is lower interest rates in the short term. I agree. It'll be interesting to watch. I don't think he's going to be able to do much until things settle down on the world stage. And then after that, we'll see how much influence Donald Trump has or doesn't have. And hopefully he will keep it independent because everybody, almost everybody agrees that's the way it should be. Patrick Anderson, founder and CEO of Anderson Economic Group, really enjoyed the conversation. Thanks so much. All right. Take care, Kevin. All right. Your calls are next. 1-800-8-5-9-0-WJR. Do you think this war is worth the economic pain? Is it worth it to make sure that Iran does not have nukes to pay, as Patrick Anderson did, $150 for a fill-up at the gas station? It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. And it is 935. That means it is your turn to talk. 1,800-859-0-957. Give us a call. Give us a text. 1-800-8-9-0. W. Joe Jerome Powell, he's on his way out. Do you want to give him a grade on his way out? Did he do a good job? Was inflation transitory? It certainly was not. He did stand up to Donald Trump about being independent from the president's office and not just doing whatever the president wanted him to do. What great do you give Gerald Jerome Powell? And Kevin Warsh is on his way in. What do you want him to do? Do you want him to stand up to Donald Trump? Or do you want him to do what Donald Trump wants? And let's get those interest rates as low as possible and see what happens next. A lot of people wondering about how things are going economically and how the war in Iran is impacting us. I feel... of my tank the other day and paid nearly $5 a gallon. I spent over $100 to fill up the tank. It hurt. It did. It made me think about it. And I know you guys are feeling the same pain out there. The question is pretty simple, but important. Is it worth paying more at the pump if it means preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon? Supporters say, of course it is. The economic pain is temporary, but the consequences of a nuclear-armed Iran could be far more dangerous and expensive in the long run. Critics say American families are just... suffering. They're the ones being asked to shoulder the financial burden of another Middle East conflict. This was Elissa Slotkin talking about Donald's Trump promised to improve the economy. What we're seeing right now is like peak uncertainty. Do I build that factory? Do I not build that factory? Do I expand? Do I make those orders? If you're lucky enough to be a bigger business, you can go cut a deal with the White House, right? He's created this unbelievable marketplace of like...

Every country has to come to me, every industry. He's slow rolling us into a recession, and we need to be clear about that because he promised he was going to put more money in people's pockets. It's the opposite. It's the opposite. Is Donald Trump slow rolling us into a recession? I don't know about that, but gas prices are certainly high. Lindsey Graham says we have no choice. It's worth losing my job if I had to give my job up. to make sure Iran would never have a nuclear weapon, I would do it. Did you give up the House and the Senate? I would give up politically. The most important thing I can do with the job I've been given is to protect the American people. Now, you don't have to agree with me. But I've been this way for 20 years. I believe they're religious Nazis in Iran. If they had a nuclear weapon, they would use it. They've been trying to get one. They've been cheating, Obama and Biden. were jokes when it came to containing Iran. Trump is doing something people should have done a long time ago. Is Donald Trump doing something other presidents should have been doing a long time ago, but we're afraid to because of the economic impact and the political impact. 1-800-9-0-957, 1-800-9-0-WJR. Let's go to Rod and Plymouth. Rod, welcome to all talk. Hey, thanks, Kevin. And the station of the year sounds pretty good, too. Yeah, big night for WJR. Yeah, there's something I do agree with Patrick Anderson on is that the Federal Reserve needs to be totally independent in perpetuity. However, under the Democrats, Jerome Powell, his 600 associate economic specialist, they gave us 23% interest, which holds into perpetuity, which we now have to think of 23% out of your paycheck. That is so demanding of your entire income. And Iran having a nuclear weapon, and that's their goal, and no one's going to dispute that, we must, after 47 years, more than just deter them, we have to make sure they're eliminated from that process for a couple of few generations. So Paul, he probably gets a C. Towards the end of his tenure, he did maybe a B, and we'll see what happens. Transitory, never. And 600 people, including the Fed chair before him, the gal, I forgot her name right now. She also said it was transitory. Once it's implemented at 23%, it's almost impossible to make that up without huge income increases. Thanks, Devin. Thanks, Rod. Appreciate you listening to the show and calling in. Let's go to Ken and Livonia. Ken, welcome to all talk. Well, let's say. Let's see, China, they're our enemy. Iran, they're our enemy. But anybody who's educated knows that Iran definitely will use a nuclear weapon the second they have one. So how exactly intelligent is it to complaining about the price of gas? I think that national security needs to be the number one priority. seeing to it that we break Iran, that we see to it that they never have access to a nuclear weapon. And if it means the price of gas goes up, so be it. Again, I think our security, our safety has to come first. Yep. Ken agrees with Lindsey Graham. Thank you for listening. Thank you for calling. Let's go to John and Chesterfield. John, welcome to all talk.

Okay, good morning. I just see Iran using our politics against us, and they're dividing our people. And I listen to a young Alyssa Slalkin. It's been 47 years we've been told Iran was a bad guy. And now Trump's the only president of our, in my lifetime, that stood up to Iran other than Reagan. They didn't mess with him. But these young politicians like Elissa Slotkin, they don't even think they're old enough to remember the gasoline price, the Iranian hostage prices. And they're out there speaking. They're turning the people guest each other and Iran is watching it. So I think people better think about this. That's all I have. Thank you, John. I think Donald Trump saw an opportunity in Iran, and they had intelligence that they could take out the regime that was in place. The whole world basically celebrated that the regime was taken out, or at least the Ayatollah was taken out. Maybe the regime didn't change, but the Ayatollah was taken out. It was an opportunity for a regime change. Will that happen? It doesn't look like it right now, but was the opportunity worth it? I think maybe it was. Have we set Iran back in their efforts to have nuclear weapons? I think we have. How much I don't know, and I think that's what we're going to have to find out. How successful was this effort and was it worth it? We can do an evaluation afterwards, but I'm not going to complain about gas right now because the president took an opportunity to make the world safer. Let's go to Mark and Milford. Mark, welcome to all talk. Good morning, Kevin. Terams, we have two choices. have very little more paying for the gas and have a foot in the store, then we'll be attacked by Iran and destroy United States, and we will don't have any food, any gas, any electricity. Just thinking from the point of the safety of America, I would say thank you, Mr. Trump, for help, and thank you for action with He did. Thank you, Mark. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. Let's go to Steve and Rochester. Steve, welcome to all talk. Thanks, Kev. I had a son served 10 years under Bush. in Obama and he was in Iraq and Afghanistan and he called one time. He said, tell the people to quit talking about praying for our safety. He said, pray they unleash us. We can clean this up. That's what needs to be done. What people don't, you don't understand the mind of the radical Islamist, which is taking over parts in this nation. Their job is to. This is a global war to put the crescent right in the center of the universe and make everybody about. So Trump did what Bush should have done. Even Reagan. We all love Reagan, but he never did anything after the 241 Marines got killed. And when Trump, sometimes it bothers me when Trump says, we're going to do this. But you know what? Those folks, those thugs, they only understand one thing. We're going to kill you. So yes, I'm glad they did this. But remember, we could have wiped out.

the bad guys in Afghanistan. And we did for a time when Bush was there in early 2003. But we're up against the clock, Steve. Thanks for your son's service. And thanks for calling in. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. It's all talk on a Monday morning. I'm Kevin Deeds coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. Well, the Detroit Pistons, it was tough. It was ugly. They were eliminated from the playoffs with the 125 to 94 loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers. Where was the defense? Detroit fell behind early and never recovered. This is Coach J.B. Bickerstaff. I'm not disappointed in these guys in the least bit. You know, obviously not the way we would have liked it to go on, but I'll never be disappointed in their effort. They gave us what they had. The Cavages outplayed us tonight, and you give them credit for it. Cade Cunningham and really all of the Young Pistons Corps struggled to find offensive rhythm. Cade wasn't happy about it. No, that game sucked. Being back home, definitely wanted to get this win in front of the fans. Reminded me of last year, you know, losing on the home court, it's not a great feeling. So I hadn't been thinking about the off-season. So, you know, my mind's been racing now, trying to figure out, you know, what I've got to do, what it's going to look like. That's really it. Yeah, but this team is a good team, and they have come so far. Two years ago, they were rock bottom. Now they won 60 games, reached game seven. I think the future still looks bright. Let's bring in Tim McCormick, former NBA player. Good morning, Tim. How are you doing? Hey, Kevin. How are you? I'm doing good. That was not fun to watch last night. I didn't have any fun watching, and I was concerned immediately. First of all, if you give up 64 points in the first half, your defense isn't serious. And the game started with Evan Mowgli and Jared Allen dunking the ball, getting layups, offensive rebounds, getting into the free throw line. Cavalers dominated the free throw shooting game. And also, when you look at Cleveland's guards, When you think about how talented Donovan Mitchell and all of the accolade James Hardin has had in their career combined, 18 all-star trips, I just think Cleveland has more talent, they have more depth, and they have more shooting. Sam Merrill and Dennis Schrooter and Dean White, like those Max Drews, those guys are just a complimentary players, and they create so much spacing the stars. I'm not surprised by the outcome. And I think that it sends a signal to the Pistons front office that they can stay where they're at. They've got a good product. The fans love them. They play defense. They hustle. They're high character guys. But if you want to be able to compete, and I'd recommend watching the next series in both the East and the West, because the four teams that are remaining,

They have so many more weapons and playmakers than the Pistons do. Yeah, I think people will be able to see that they're a step or two ahead and that if we want to get there, we're going to have to keep moving forward. We've made a ton of progress. Game six, by the way, which we didn't get a chance to talk about yet. I mean, that was Detroit. They were gritty. They were fighting. They wanted to stay alive. And then it's like they left everything in Cleveland. It didn't feel like there was any of that in game seven. It just felt like Cleveland wanted it more. Now, I have a suggestion, Kevin. Let's just talk about game six. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, that was right. But I think that if I'm looking for one singular reason why the Pistons were not ready to go and did not play their best ball. It was the fifth time that they faced elimination in the last 18 days. And that takes an emotional toll for sure. The Orlando series, highly competitive. Everybody is ripping the pistons. They're not tough. They're not good. They have no heart. They have no character. A bunch of nonsense like that. And you go out there and you keep winning those games. I think that they were emotionally wrecked before that came against Cleveland. Cleveland... played that way in game six against Detroit. So it happened. Very good year. Nice progress. They went from 14 wins two years ago to 60. That doesn't happen. That's one of the best improvements ever. Yeah, they looked a little fatigued physically, too. And I know both teams had to play the same number of games over the same number of nights. But when you have to come from behind like that, and you're fighting for your life, I think you're probably putting more out there. They look tired. And I kept wondering, all right, when are they going to, you know, when are they going to snap to it? And it just wasn't there. Well, look at Tobias Harris. He was 0 for six from the field. He did not look like himself. Cade Cunningham did not have a productive game. His plus minus was very low. Those two guys have so much responsibility. They've got to think about Cade. He's got to bring the ball at the court. He's got to set up the offense. He's got to look for his teammates and get them involved. He's got to play against James Hardin or Donovan Mitchell. It just really takes a toll. And there's a hierarchy in NBA basketball. You need a go-to guy, and then you need multiple playmakers around them that can make their job easy. And Kettin, when's the last time we saw somebody make a great play and get paid a wide open shot? They shoot so many contested shots. They're depending on him so much. They really have to figure that out a little. What in your... assessment. What do they need to get to that next level?

I would love to see them get a playmaking forward, either a power forward or a small forward, but somebody that can get you 20 points just because they're really good. Somebody that will demand a double team occasionally. They need more shooting. Assar Thompson needs to spend his summer in the gym. Just get to the point where you can make a third of your corner three. That would make this offense so much better. And then also. I think you have to take a good long look at Jalen Dern. I want him back, but he's up for the Supermax, and I can't see giving him, you know, $250 million. I think he's a key piece for the future. I hope they can find a deal that keeps him in Detroit. Can Duncan Robinson get better at defense, or is that something you can only learn to a certain level? When I watch Duncan Robinson, I feel like he does a really good job of knowing the scotter report and trying to keep his guy in front of him. He's never going to be a stopper. He played at Miami, Pat Riley, Eric's Bolster. Those guys take defense serious. He's been groomed and trained as well as you can. He has some physical limitations, but I think that guy's a darn good player. He plays hard. And he tries on defense. Not very good, but he tries really hard. The defense wasn't good last night, but this is a good defensive team, right? They are. They were ranked number two in the NBA, but guess what? Cleveland's really pretty tough, too. Jared Allen and Evan Mobley really made it hard around the rim at both ends of the court. Both teams are really good defensively, but when it comes down to it, the Pistons gave up 125 points, and they needed a game somewhere around 100. Yeah, it was, I mean, you just can't, you can't give up that many points and expect to win. It's just 125 points. It's too many. I think it was 99 after three quarters, whatever it was. But just wait, wait. Way too much offense from Cleveland. They did seem to be a player or two ahead of us. But the Pistons have come so far, and I am really hopeful that they're going to get there. And I really think they got a great coaching staff that's going to do the best they can with what they have. Tim McCormick, former NBA player, we've appreciated you giving us analysis all year long. Thanks so much. Thanks, Kevin. Talk to you later. All right. Yeah. Coach J.B. Bickerstaff is going to get back in there. Think about it. What piece of the puzzle is missing? They've got to get Kate Cunningham a little bit more help. Will they be able to do it? We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz.

I hope you're having a great Monday morning. Welcome into the 10 o'clock hour of all talk. I'm Kevin Deuce, bringing you the latest headlines and the stories that everyone is talking about. Detroit police are investigating another terrible night of youth violence downtown after hundreds of teenagers reportedly gathered Sunday evening, leading to multiple fights and non-fatal shooting of a 14-year-old. Police Chief Todd Benison said the teen was shot in the chest near the Gucci store. and is expected to recover a 16-year-old and a 17-year-old are in custody, and officers recovered a weapon. Detroit Police Commissioner Darius Morris said as many as 500 teens were involved in a large brawl around Woodward and Grashet. That's right downtown. Officers also responded to an assault in which one victim reportedly lost consciousness in the street. The unrest comes despite the city's new six-point summer safety plan designed to reduce teen violence through youth programs and increased police presence. Officials say both the teens involved and, where appropriate, their parents could be held accountable. I really think for Detroit, this has become a serious problem. And this is popping up. all around the country. It's not just Detroit, but it's a serious problem. And the city of Detroit really needs to confront this now. I mean, hundreds of teenagers flooding downtown, these large-scale fights, in this case, a 14-year-old shot, and just innocent people in the area are wondering whether it's safe to visit the heart of our city. It's unacceptable. Detroit has worked so hard for so long to rebuild its reputation to allow chaos to become... a new normal downtown young people yes they need positive opportunities absolutely they need things that they can do but they also need accountability and we need parental involvement and clear consequences when they break the law summer is just beginning there's so many big events coming and if city leaders did not get ahead of this right now the next headline could be so much worse and the last thing we want is downtown detroit to feel like I don't know, it's too much of a safety risk to visit. So hopefully the police chief is on top of it. We'll put out a request to try and get the chief and see what's happening in that regard. But a very serious issue last night. Aaron Rye, he won the 2026 PGA Championship, claiming the first major title of his career. Rye rallied from three shots behind after the front nine, highlighted by an eagle on the ninth hole and four birdies on the back nine. He was incredible on the back nine. A remarkable 68-foot birdie putt on the 17th hole gave him a commanding lead and effectively sealed the victory. He finished at nine under par, three shots ahead of John Rahm, several of golf's biggest stars, including Roy. Rory McElroy, Justin Thomas, and Scotty Schaeffler were in contention during the dramatic final round. Rye had never finished better than tied for 19th in a major championship. His breakthrough performance delivered one of the most memorable moments of the golf season. It was really exciting.

The war is extremely expensive. Democrat Elissa Slotkin says Trump is not keeping his economic promise to the American people. What we're seeing right now is like peak uncertainty. Do I build that factory? Do I not build that factory? Do I expand? Do I make those orders? If you're lucky enough to be a bigger business, you can go cut a deal with the White House, right? He's created this unbelievable marketplace of like... Every country has to come to me, every industry. He's slow rolling us into a recession, and we need to be clear about that. Because he promised he was going to put more money in people's pockets. It's the opposite. It's the opposite. Well, a lot of people were talking about this story. ABC aired a promotional spot for the NBA conference finals featuring the Cleveland Cavaliers versus the New York Knicks, which is who's going to play? The Cleveland Cavaliers and the New York Knicks. The problem is they did this before they ever played the Pistons Cavaliers Game 7. So before the Pistons and Cavaliers even played last night, they put out a promo about... Make sure you watch Cleveland versus New York. Was it a mistake? Probably. But many Detroit fans feel like the omission is a sign that the national media is underestimating the Pistons talent and who they are. And others believe it was, sure, a marketing oversight created before the series was decided. And maybe there's one with the Pistons versus the Knicks and one with Cleveland versus the Knicks. And they weren't supposed to. air any of them, but they aired the one with Cleveland versus the Knicks. But also, there's a lot of people out there talking conspiracy. There always are, but they think that, or they say out there on the internet anyway, hey, the league is fixed, and they knew that they were going to have Cleveland win, and that's why these promos were already made. Some fans were seriously hoping that the slight would become bulletin board material that motivated the team. You know, hey, ABC and ESPN doesn't think you're going to beat Cleveland tonight. into the finals. But that did not help. Detroit did not show up to put up a real fight at all. So ABC and ESPN were correct with their prediction, I guess. We'll put it that way, that it would be Cleveland versus New York. The Detroit Pistons were eliminated 125 to 94 in a terrible game. This was Duncan Robinson. He has so much growth. I mean, across the board, you know, you go down the line. This is the only team I've ever been on where everybody contributed to winning a playoff game. That's so unique in this league, and it didn't surprise anybody. Hopefully next year we can advance at least to the conference finals and maybe to the NBA finals. We're going to have to get a few more players, as we can see. We just didn't quite have enough to get past Cleveland and get into the Eastern Conference finals. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz.

It's all talk on a Monday morning. I'm Kevin D. It's coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-859-0-957. 1-800-8-5-9-0-W-JR. Pick up the phone. Give us a call. What would compel hundreds of people to line up before dawn at Somerset Collection for the chance to buy a pocket watch? I'm not sure exactly why it happened, but that's exactly what happened Saturday morning in Troy when a limited edition collaboration between Swatch and Piaget drew several hundred people to the mall. The watches priced around $400 were inspired by a luxury brand whose timepiece often sells for tens of thousands of dollars. Police... were called to the scene around 4.30 a.m. as the crowd became increasingly large and disruptive officers from multiple departments were called in. The sale was canceled and two people were eventually cited for trespassing after refusing to leave. Let's bring in Steve Dole at retired Detroit Police Assistant Chief. Good morning. How are you? Pot, how are you? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. This was quite a scene. I know watches are becoming popular again. I know young people are really into watches. I would never expect to hear about a watch sale at summer set that draws such a big crowd that police from multiple agencies get called in. Well, remember the old Black Friday crowds? Yes. Okay. That's what this was. And allow those people in line to buy it. They're going to do it sell on the aftermarket to get more money. The problem, in my opinion, is the store knew there's a big release. Did they tell them all, hey, we're expecting a lot of people? And if they did, did them all say, hey, listen, we may need some help that they call the police department. Did anyone check social media? And it sounds like no, no, no. And you're a little younger than me, but remember we used to wait in line for tickets to concerts? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And they give you like a place in line. Here's your thing. Right. A number or whatever. Okay. So you line it up and say, okay, Kevin, your first, Steve, your second, we're letting in 10 people at a time. You're going right to the store, boom. No, no one did any of that. And then the police got overwhelmed. And again, I don't know if the police were notified in advance, what the social media presence was. They haven't said that yet. But it's ridiculous. It should not happen. Absolutely should not happen. You mentioned the Black Fridays, boy, I think about some of the video of that, and they would, the people would just be lined up at the door and also the door opened, everyone would just race through, people falling down, getting trampled, everybody ran up to whatever the hot toy of the year was, and they're ripping them from each other's hands. Literally. Literally. So, beating the hell out of each other. Yeah. Come on. I got to believe that there was some ability to check social media and know that this was viral or very popular or that this might happen. It doesn't matter what the time of day is, right? I mean, you got to be ready at any time.

Yeah, and this wasn't just in Metro Detroit. No, Chicago was wild. Exactly. So there's this big release. And again, a lot of those people are there just to resell it. Okay. But 4.30 in the morning, pick up this watch. Give me a break. Get a life. Get a job. Well, that is my job. I'm a buyer. But, I mean, they should have said something. The store should have alerted the mall. The mall should alerted the police. And the police could have went to social media and say, You know what? It's not going to be a big deal. But at 4.30 in the morning, you don't expect people lining up that many people. And then the two idiots that were arrested for trespassing, how stupid can you be? Yeah. I mean, leave. They refuse to leave. They refuse to leave. I'm going to stay because I want to get that watch. Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, there is planning that goes on. I mean, they must at the mall. They must have just regular daily or probably multiple times a day. They probably have some sort of security meetings, right? Yeah, but if they weren't, if they weren't advised by the store, how would they know? If they were, what precautions do they take? They have talked to director of security at the mall. Did they call the police? And again, what do you guys think? I mean, I were expecting the big crowd. How early are they going to get there? How many police do we need to pay? Do we need to pay? And we will have to pay at the mall or the store over time for police officers to come in early. Keep an eye on this. But it comes down to people just, I have to have it right now. Instant gratification. So is this a one-time lapse of judgment? Are they going to make changes where the stores are required to or they can get booted out of the mall or something like that? No. it's going to happen again. They used to happen when Jim Jordan came out of new sneakers every year. People are crowding the stores and the old Black Friday things. You can only do so much, but it can be organized again. You give Kevin a ticket, get Steve a ticket. Here's the line. You know, let's keep an eye on things. And there's cameras everywhere. So there's people starting to start. Do you remember during COVID? How bad it was it? Somerset. People had gotten all this COVID money and PPP money. And they were lined up at the stores. And they had a line there. But then people were fighting each other in line, you know, and having problems with each other. The police were out there several times for that. Our society has become instant gratification. It's not about you. It's about me and what I want. And there's no civility. They just, they don't care. And if you're in my way, you get the hell out of my way. Because I will get that toy or that flat screen for a hundred bucks or whatever. I want it. Yeah. And it's sad. It's excited to come to. A similar topic, a little different story, but the teen takeover in Detroit, it happened again. 500 people, 500 young people just fighting and running all over downtown. They were by the Gucci store of a 14-year-old was shot. I mean, this is potentially...

Really, and I know this, again, this is happening all over the country. So this is a social media thing where people are saying, all right, tonight's tonight because there are a problem in D.C. and other places last night, too. But Detroit, I mean, Detroit has worked so hard to just build a fabulous reputation of come on downtown. It's so fun. Right. This is potentially really problematic, I think. What are your thoughts? I agree with you. I mean, the tigers are in town. Those kids weren't going to the ballgame. They were hoping the pistons would win. That didn't work out. And a lot of kids downtown. And there's the old saying, best laid plans of mice and men. Jeff Field and Bedison came with the plan. But you have to get people to follow it. And sometimes, and this isn't popular, but I can say because I don't have a job, you got to drop the hammer once in a while and say, you know, we're done. Did you see what they did at the bridge between Oakland and San Francisco? No. Okay. You know how they have all these drag races and, you know, drifting stuff? Yeah. They all got on the bridge. Oakland got on one side of the bridge, San Francisco's on the other side of the bridge, and they boxed them in. He said, okay. And they took all their cars. Oh, yeah, car motorcycles. And they went, you want to be stupid? We can be dumber. We're taking all your stuff. And people are actually just leaving their bikes and running away. Yeah. But sometimes you have to drop the hammer and say, look, we're done with this. Well, what should they do next? What, what does it next? They had a press conference and said, we're going to find more things for young people to do. That didn't work. What do you do next? You got to get the mindset and the parents. And I agree. Kids have been known to lie to their parents and say they're going to Joey's house and they go downtown. But you've got to start breaking these groups up. And people don't like that. I have a right to be out here, blah, blah, blah. You know what? And I have a right to feel safe with my family on the street. So if you want to come down and act a fool, we're going to get a giant bus and put everyone in the bus. And you'll sit there until the bus is full. You may have to go to the bathroom, whatever. We're taking your phones or putting you on the bus. We're sending you a message. Do you want to be a jerk? We'll be bigger jerks. The consequences have to be bigger than the fun that they're having with what they're doing. And are there enough police officers to do that if 500 people storm the city? No, no, of course not, because you've got to take, that's being the biggest complaint for years. They worry about downtown and that's a neighborhood. You've got to have people in neighborhoods, too. You have to have people out there, and they're paying them overtime, and it's secondary employment, but you can only do so much. You can't police your way out of everything, but... people have to take responsibility. Yeah, I think they're kids. I think they definitely need to be monitoring social media as well to know when these things are going to happen. If they have to call people in, they have to call people in because I don't know how many times you can have 500 people running through the streets of downtown Detroit and shots are being fired and people are going to say, you know what? I think that's where I want to bring my family. Right. It's just too big of a problem. And look how many people have Seattle and Portland's at Minneapolis. We're out of here.

Right. The businesses were leaving saying, we're not going to come down here. Yeah. Our employees don't feel safe. So, yeah. All right. Steve Dolan, your time, Detroit Police, Assistant Chief. Thank you so much. Thanks, man. Have a good one. All right. Trouble at Somerset, trouble downtown Detroit. Quick break. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. All right. It is your turn to talk at 1034 this morning. 1-800-8-5-9-7. Give us a text. 1-800-9-0-WJR. What do you think about this ruling? It's breaking news. A New York judge has handed a partial victory to Luigi Mangione, the man accused of murdering Brian Thompson outside a Manhattan hotel. This is the guy Luigi who became famous after committing the crime, and there were millions of fans of this guy. Unbelievable story, that in and of itself. Now, the judge ruled that some evidence found in Mengioen's backpack and certain statements he made to police cannot be used in his New York state trial. But prosecutors still say they have what they consider powerful evidence, including DNA, surveillance video, and items recovered near the crime scene. So the big question really this morning is if police obtain evidence improperly, should that evidence be excluded even in a high-profile murder case? Do you have to follow the process? Do you have to get it right? And if you don't, can key evidence be dismissed? Juries, should they be allowed to see everything and then decide what's important? Or... Is the judge right? You got to follow the rules. This case goes to the heart of constitutional protections and the balance between public safety and individual rights. If police get something without a search warrant, look, it's going to get tossed. It's not going to be a part of the case. It's just not. And prosecutors are then stuck to try and win with what they have. So the judge ruled prosecutors may not use some of this evidence in his backpack if it was obtained before police secured the warrant. So they took the backpack, went through it. grabbed stuff, but they didn't have a warrant at that time. So he also apparently may have made some statements early on before he was read his rights. So you know what the Miranda rights are. You have the right to remain silent. If he said things before he was given his Miranda rights, those things may not be used in court. In this case, it looks like that's going to be the case in this particular Luigi Mangione case. So there's a notebook. allegedly describing his intent to kill a health insurance executive. And they found this notebook in his backpack. And basically, you show that notebook to the jury. And it says in his own writing that he intended to kill a health insurance executive. And he's seen doing that. That's pretty good evidence. Also, they found a silencer in his backpack, a 3D printed gun in his backpack. And apparently none of that is going to be allowed. That's going to be tossed out. Is that enough to potentially put this case in jeopardy for prosecutors? I can't imagine being the jury in this case and having to... They'll never know. But, I mean, this is a public case that everyone was following for a long time. Right. There's many trials that have been like this that I can't imagine being in the jury's shoes. So having this evidence that is pretty big evidence having to be removed, that...

It's interesting. And the chances of you hearing that this evidence was removed is probably pretty high. Yes. And so when they sit a jury, they're not necessarily going to be fined all people who have not heard this information. It may be that they ask you to forget about this information. Pretend that you were not aware. How hard would it be to forget about a notebook where he says I'm going to kill a health care executive? That'd be pretty hard. I agree. I don't know how they'll do it. I have not served on a jury, so I don't actually know what I would do in this circumstance, but currently I don't know how they'll do it. Yeah, if you were told to... disregard any of this evidence that, you know, was found in this backpack. You'd do your best to do it, but it's still in your brain somewhere. Absolutely. Just like any, you know, I think of the Oxford situation. I don't know how on a local level people in our community were able to. forego any information regardless of what it was. It would be interesting to separate jurors who had never heard anything really about this case. It certainly didn't hear about evidence being excluded versus ones that did and see how differing their opinions are of what happened. Because I feel like if you knew in the back of your head that this other stuff was excluded, you might give more credence credibility to the... to the evidence that they are able to submit. Now, in this case, it may not matter. I mean, if you're on the jury and they have DNA evidence linking Mangio to items near the crime scene, they have surveillance video and photographs where you're watching him basically walk up and commit this crime. It's on video. There's cell phone evidence that they will use. There's this water bottle and other physical evidence recovered by investigators. You also have witness testimony, and you have... Several federal charges, by the way, where a judge in the federal case is going to allow the backpack evidence. So in the state case, they're not allowing it. In the federal case, they are. It would be interesting to get some information on what's different in the federal case versus the state case where the backpack's in on one and out on the other. Let's go to Jacqueline in Detroit. Jacqueline, welcome to all talk. Good morning. Good morning. I don't condone what Luigi Mangione did. However, you know, sometimes I just think that people get to the end of the road where the rubber meets the road with their attitude toward the health care system. Because how many people have, quote unquote, me, been assassinated through denial of health care claims?

And died. Yeah, I think that's why he became so popular. People were saying, oh, it's because he's good looking. I don't think that's it at all. I think there's a lot of people who are so frustrated and at the end of the rope with the health care system that they say somebody has to do something to get somebody's attention to make changes. And that's not condoning what happened here. But I think that's why some people, you know, maybe have some compassion. for Mangione. And it's clearly started a dialogue, Jacqueline. I don't know if things have changed at all or if it quieted down. But it did start, it got a lot of people looking at health care systems and CEOs and how much money do they make and are they making and are the priorities correct. So in that regard, it did put some spotlight on the issue, but obviously this is not the way to go about doing it. Okay, you and I are on the same page. Yeah, I think so. Thank you, Jacqueline. I really appreciate you listening and appreciate you calling in with that. Sometimes people forget, you know, that what was the probable motive here? And there's no motive for walking up to somebody and shooting and killing them. But the fact that his motive was his frustration with health care does create an opportunity where we should talk about. We really should talk about it. So the DNA evidence is going to be very strong. The surveillance video, I don't know how you get around that. So do you need a notebook that says he was planning to kill a health care executive if you have surveillance video of him actually doing it? He could say that's not me in the video, but there's also other evidence that they've obtained. There's water bottle and other physical evidence that they recovered. And there's other witness testimony of people who saw. saw this happen. So can they look at him in court and say that was him? He did it. Now, as to the issue of should evidence be excluded, if police fail to follow legal procedures, it absolutely must. You cannot have police just getting information any way they want. They have got to follow the rules. If they need to get a search warrant, they need to get a search warrant. If probable cause is good enough, then probable cause is good enough. But you can't have law enforcement cutting corners. When they do, it gets called out, and you have situations like this where evidence gets tossed, and then you end up having, you know, a tougher job for prosecutors. But I'm sorry that the job may be tougher for prosecutors. But I would not prefer to have police being able to break the rules because where would... Where would that stop? That would just, you know, create a situation where police win at all costs and prosecutors win at all costs. And we already see that in some of these old cases where the wrong person was sent to prison for 10, 20, 30 years because, you know, people cut corners.

And that's not what we want. You do not want the wrong people in prison. So the police and law enforcement have to follow the procedures. When they don't, the judges have to omit that evidence. And the prosecutors are just going to have to work harder. What will it mean for Luigi? I don't know. Prosecutors seem to think they still have a really, really great case. Quick break. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. It's All Talk on a Monday morning. I'm Kevin Deets coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-8-559-07. 1-800-8-9-0-WJR. We have a fantastic prize here for you, but you're going to have to work a little bit. for it so pay attention it's w jr's tim mcgraw vip experience your chance to rock when country music legend tim mcraw brings his pawn show guitar tour to pine knob music theater august 28th now you could win a pair of premium pavilion tickets transportation courtesy of metro cars and a hundred dollars to buddy's pizza To enter, here's what you have to do. You have to download the free WJR mobile app. Super easy to do, but download the free WJR mobile app. Find the secret keyword that's there when you do this and then text that keyword to 800, 859-0957. So the first thing you're going to do is download the free WJR mobile app. Find that secret keyword that is there, and then text that keyword to 800, 859-0957. And you could win a pair of premium pavilion tickets, transportation, courtesy of metro cars, and $100 to buddy pizza for the Tim McGraw-Pawn Show guitar tour coming to Pine Knob Music Theater on August the 28th. For more information, visit wjr.com. All right, for the first time in 26-year history of the Plant Moran Working Relations Index, all six major automakers improved. The relationships with suppliers. Ford Motor Company posted the biggest gain followed by Toyota Motor Corporation and Stalantis. Toyota remains the top-ranked automaker while General Motors achieved its highest score ever. They're all good news. The study suggests the stronger communication, greater fairness, and better collaboration are all helping rebuild trust between automakers and the companies that supply them. Let's bring in Dr. Angela Johnson, leader of Plant Moran's Supplier Relationship Analytics Practice. Good morning. How are you? Good morning, Kevin. Thank you for having me. Yeah, it's a lot of data. Tell us what jumps out at you. What's important? I think what's important, you sums it up really well. For the first time in history, we had all six OEMs increase their scores. A little bit of surprise coming out of a year that was defined by tariffs. It was defined by EVE right off, and yet everybody moved up.

I thought for a second, you were going to say for the first time in history, you summarized something properly. You did it very well. Very well. Yeah, how do you do it? I mean, what's the secret to having the communication scores go up like that? You know, there's a couple of things going on behind the scenes. Number one, what we saw, and maybe it's the silver lining out of many years of crises, every time the OEMs have to deal with another one of these supply chain disruptions. And now they're starting to come far more frequently pile on top of each other. But the OEMs are getting more efficient at how they do that. They know how to be proactive. They know how to put processes in place. They are understanding the importance of listening to their suppliers. And at the same time, the suppliers, after so many years of this. perma crisis fatigue are starting to see that there's a human on the other side of the negotiating table, that we are all looking at our phone in the morning, seeing what news is going to hit us in the face and just trying to get through it together. Yeah, maybe it's... become a priority because it's had to become a priority because so much is going on that there's really a lot of focus on attention to it. And then the upside of that is that it's hitting all the little things even better as well. And people are feeling like they know what's going on. Is it important to have these relationships hitting on all cylinders for profitability and quality? It absolutely is. We see direct correlations and strong correlations between the OEM's performance in terms of their financial performance, in terms of their warranty, and in terms of their relationship strength. So the relationship helps them traverse all of this uncertainty better. Surprisingly, they also got a boost from everybody coming back to the office. Yeah, that makes sense. Let's talk about each of them and what they did specifically. Let's talk about Ford. Absolutely. So last year Ford, we kind of described them by saying their scores went down. It was death by a thousand cuts. So the best way to say that they put on a thousand Band-Aids. They went after a lot of areas that were driving their suppliers to be less efficient, that were driving an uncertainty, and they put into things like they created a buyer directory. They implemented a supplier help desk.

They created a two-way performance feedback that not only let the suppliers transparently see what's going on at Ford, how they think of the supplier, but let the supplier give feedback to Ford. Liz Door, the purchasing chief there at Ford, marked the highest increase in VP trust. She got out there with the supply base, listening to them, taking the meetings, and she really drove that behavior. through their entire organization. They've got a long way to go, but this is a great start report. That's incredible. How about Stellantis? Stelantis is kind of the same way. They leaned into communicating more, getting their suppliers more engaged and collaborative problem solving, trying to take waste out of the system. Their increase is absolutely remarkable when you consider the amount of organizational change going on at Stolantis. They've got a new CEO in place. And the suppliers are positively seeing the efforts that they are putting in in the plan that they have for going forward. And Toyota? Toyota continues to go up. They continue to raise the bar. This is the third straight year of strong increases from Toyota. They are known as a true partner. They are known as tough but fair with very efficient processes. So they did better the things that they already do very well. Toyota, I think, also got a little bit of a boost because they've had less of an easy impact than the other five. All right. Well, it's really good news. And there's a lot more, obviously, in the reports. And people should check it out because it really is. It tells a very fascinating story. Dr. Angela Johnson, leader of Plant Moran Supplier Relationship Analytics Practice. Thanks for coming on and walking us through some of the highlights. Thank you. All right. We'll talk again in the future. Death by 1,000 cuts, 1,000 Band-Ais. Problem solved. I love it. We're going to take a quick break. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. All right, welcome into the 11 o'clock hour on a Monday morning. I hope you're having a great start to your week. I'm Kevin Dietz, bringing you the latest headlines and the stories that everyone is talking about. A New York judge has ruled that some evidence found in Luigi Mangione's backpack and certain statements he made as well to police cannot be used in his state murder trial. Mangione is accused of killing Brian Thompson outside of Manhattan Hotel in December of 2024.

Excluded evidence may include a notebook, a silencer, a 3D printed handgun that defense attorneys argued were obtained through an illegal search. Prosecutors contend they still have strong evidence, including DNA, surveillance video, and items recovered near the crime scene. Legal experts say the ruling is a win for the defense but does not significantly weaken the overall case. A federal judge previously allowed the backpack evidence to be used in separate federal proceedings. Mangione's New York State trial is scheduled to begin in September with the federal trial set for January. Police have to follow the rules. If they do not follow the rules, the judge is going to. throw evidence out. It's really interesting why it would be allowed in the federal case to stay and not in the state case to stay. So we'll dig into that with a legal expert and find out exactly what's going on there. China has agreed to significantly increase purchases of U.S. agricultural products, including beef and poultry. It's a big deal announced by the White House. The agreement. Calls for China to buy roughly $17 billion worth of these products annually in 26, 27, and 28. China will also reopen its market to U.S. beef and resume poultry imports from state certified by the United States Department of Agriculture as free of bird flu. These contaminants are in addition to China's previous soybean purchase agreements. The deal offers important support to American farmers who were hurt by the trade war and the loss of major export market. Farmers are also facing rising fertilizer costs. You've heard about this because tensions involving Iran have disrupted shipping through the Straits of Hamoos. The administration says the expanded trade agreement should help offset some of those financial pressures and strengthen the actual... agricultural sector, a big deal for American farmers. Kevin Warsh is preparing to take over as chair of the Federal Revenue Reserve at a time of mounting inflation concerns. President Trump is urging Walsh to cut interest rates to lower borrowing costs and stimulate the economy. At the same time, tensions around the strait of her moves are rising fears of higher shipping expenses and supply chain disruptions. The latest consumer price index shows food prices rose 3.2% from a year earlier. Beef prices, they've climbed about 15%, prompting warnings from companies such as McDonald's, Shake Shack, and other restaurant brands. The parent company of Burger King also weighing in. Kevin Warsh has long criticized the Federal Reserve's past easy money policies and is widely viewed as an inflation hawk. His early decisions will be closely watched as he balances pressure to cut rates and the risk that inflation could remain elevated. He has said that the Fed chair will be independent from the White House. He will not be influenced by the president. He says he will be influenced by the numbers and what he believes is the right direction for the country.

Congress enters a critical week as Republicans race to pass President Donald Trump's reconciliation package to fund immigration enforcement before the June 1 deadline. The bill includes a sweeping $72 billion plan to expand resources for U.S. immigration and customs enforcement and U.S. Customs and Border Protection. A $1 billion provision for United States Secret Service security tied to a proposed White House ballroom was removed after the Senate parliamentarian ruled it violated. rules. Senate Majority Leader John Thune says Republicans will revise the legislation to keep it on track. The Senate Homeland Security commitment begins markup Tuesday, followed by the Budget Committee on Wednesday and a voterrama where senators can offer unlimited amendments. If the Senate approves the measure, the United States House of Representatives plans to move quickly with a Rules Committee hearing and a floor vote by the end of the week. Now, Republicans are already discussing a second reconciliation package focused on cost of living issues while Trump is urging lawmakers to attach his Save America Act to another must- past legislation. We'll see where that goes. Detroit Police, they are investigating this chaotic night downtown, a Detroit takeover. It involves a 14-year-old who was shot and several people hurt in multiple fights involving large groups of teenagers. Marie Osborne is following the story and joins us now. Good morning, Marie. Hi there, Kevin, and you know last night it was a nice night out. It was warm, so lots of people were out. Police say hundreds of kids gathered in the area of Woodward and Grashet. were called in at around 10 o'clock. Witnesses and dispatch audio described multiple fights breaking out, including one assault so severe the victim briefly lost consciousness in the street. Police chief Todd Pedison says a separate incident nearby all of this involved a 14-year-old who was shot in the chest. The injuries not believe to be not life-threatening and a community violence intervention worker helped provide aid to that victim before they were brought to the hospital. Officials say it's not clear if the... The teens were there for the game seven of the NBA conference semifinals at Little Caesars. Investigators say two groups came together. An argument escalated. Gunfire followed. A 16 and a 17-year-old are now in custody and a weapon has been recovered. Chief Bettison says the two will be held accountable and their parents will also be held accountable. The city has a youth curfew. Those 15 and under, you have to be in by 10. 10 p.m. 11 p.m. for 16 and 17-year-olds. And Kevin, you know, this violence is renewing this debate over how to manage these large teen gatherings downtown. They've gotten this moniker of being called takeovers on social media. But as summer approaches, this is a big issue. Mayor Mary Sheffield has put out this six-point plan to steer young people to organized events. But... Didn't work last night. Yeah, and there were problems in other cities as well. So these takeovers are going through the internet and it's being decided and it's hitting multiple big cities like Detroit. Probably not tied into the Pistons game, but if it had been, if the Pistons had won and people came out on the streets and fans came on, police probably would have really been overwhelmed. And I also think that because the Pistons game was a potential Game 7 victory, that they probably had extra lawn.

out for the Pistons. For what is happening in these downtown takeovers, the videos alone that come out from this are very scary. When people are fighting and pushing and then there's gun, gunfire involved, in this case, a 14-year-old, this is something we really have got to wrap our arms around quickly before it escalates. You get... an even worse headline, and it can have a long-lasting impact. It'll have a long-lasting effect. And what I've been reading on social media, because I follow this to just see what other people are saying, there are people out there who are saying, okay, we don't want our teens to be on the streets. Well, where do we want them to be? And why do we get all upset and bothered when a group of teenagers gather? So there's this whole group of people saying, you know, let's take it easy with the teens. You know, they've got to have, you know, places to gather, go outside, have a good time, even if it's outside on a nice night. But again, the potential for real problems, like we saw last night, could have escalated to something far, far worse. So you got to balance these two things. No, you want to invite teens to go down. You want to invite everybody to come down. But you just don't want mobs of people that are involved in pushing, fighting violence. Mayhem. Right, yeah, running through the streets. So yeah, it's going to be, they're going to have to figure it out. Gene Piro, the U.S. Attorney in New York, she was on this morning saying they were having the same problem and that they are going to address this at first by making sure that the crowd's don't get out of control. And then they're going to continue to try and provide more things for people to do. But they can't have people just running wild on the streets. They're not going to allow it. So we'll see where it goes. Absolutely. And again, the mayor's working on this. She's well aware of it. There's been some criticism, though, already for her administration on this. First test. Yes, indeed. That's exactly right. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. It's all talk on a Monday. I'm Kevin Dietz coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-8-9-0-957. 1-800-8-590 WJR. We're going to take your calls and read your text at 1135. So pick up the phone and be a part of the show. You may want to call in on this story. A new report from the Gateway Pundit is raising serious questions about election integrity in Michigan. The article, alleges that six non-citizens with criminal histories, several of whom were later deported by U.S. immigration and customs enforcement, remained listed as active registered voters in Michigan. Jocelyn Benson has repeatedly stated that only U.S. citizens can vote and that safeguards are in place to catch illegal voting attempts. Join us now is Ruth Johnson, Michigan State Senator, a Republican from Holly, and the former Michigan Secretary of State. Good morning. How are you? Good morning, Kevin, and good morning to everyone that's listening. Yeah, we appreciate you being here. Election integrity is a big deal. And I know we've heard from Secretary St. Jocelyn Benson who said that our elections are as safe as they've ever been, but a lot of people have questions and think they can be tightened up. What is your reaction to these allegations? Well, what she's saying is absolutely not true. We don't have anything in the system at all except the honor system for those that are not citizens.

So it's very frustrating that she keeps saying this one. It's not true. And I'm so happy that you're looking into it so that you can get the true vote to people. I mean, we don't. I, you drop. United States citizens, none. You're popping in and out a little bit. I don't know if you're driving, maybe you can pull over or if you get to a spot. But anyway. We're pulling over. Okay, just to let you know. We'll pull over right now. Yeah. So, yeah, we had a case in Ann Arbor where a non-resident voted and then realized and then came forward and said that, oh, I made a mistake. I voted. And they said, oh, well, we can't get that vote back. You voted. That vote counts. That votes in. I mean. Who's to know how many people are not raising their hand and saying, I did this? Yeah, I think it's a tip of the iceberg, really, because we don't have a system and we don't have a Secretary of State that supports photo ID. We have the citizens' only ballot initiative that will help cure this. Right now, we have a Secretary of State that just doesn't seem to care. And there were 36,272 people where the Michigan Secretary of State sent their information to Social Security Administration. And the last four digits of their Social Security numbers, they didn't match. They didn't match with the Social Security Administration records. So that's a huge problem. And the real problem is that the current secretary of state doesn't do anything about it. I hear us say over and over, we have all these layers that take care of it. We have zero. It's all on the honor system. What she's saying is not true. When it comes to voter rolls, why might someone remain listed after deportation or even relocation? Yeah, I've had a number of people. And Patty McMurray did a good job on checking these things out. And really, we have a number of people that, you know, we have one that. It was not a citizen, stalking, aggravated, stalking, domestic violence, operating well intoxicated, voted in two of our elections. And they're still listed on the active voter list. That tells me we have a secretary of state that doesn't care. Absolutely. And that's not the only one I have a list of these folks that are non-citizens. Here's another one convicted of first-degree criminal sexual assault. and voted in 2016, 2020, 2024, and he's still listed on the active voter list, and we know that they're not citizens. It's just a problem. We need to solve it, and we have a Secretary of State that doesn't care. Well, how difficult is it to keep the voter rolls accurate? I mean, how often do we audit them, or should we?

Yeah, well, we cleaned them up. We took one out of six people off. We found a half a million people that had passed away. We found 3,505 non-citizens registered. And so we took care of all of that. But you have to care. You have to want to do it. And then you need a system. There's nothing in our system right now that would identify if somebody's a non-citizen voting. And for that fact, we won't know if somebody votes twice if they're a citizen or not with the system that we have. Over the last seven years, this Secretary of State has been the ringleader to strip out integrity, and then she goes on TV and the radio and says everything's fine. But she doesn't give the data. Somebody needs to ask, how do you take off? How do you make sure that nobody votes that's a non-citizen? Because once they vote, it counts. Do you think it's bad enough that maybe the federal government should have more access to state voter data, or should they be separate? Well, it's the federal government that gave us that information. So to give it back to them to make sure that we have clean files as much as we can under the laws that we have is important. Why would you withhold information of Social Security numbers that the federal government issued? And why do we have 36,000 people that do not match the Social Security Administration? So yes, I mean, it's so important to have... to have that information. The Department of Homeland Security was putting out asking for locating these specific individuals that they were aware of because of the criminal activity. Some of them are pedophiles. I mean, they shouldn't be voting. We need citizen-only voting amendment here in Michigan. That's the most important thing of all. It's common sense. 83% of the people support photo ID, and hopefully this opens the eyes to the other 17%. So I want to reassure your listeners, Kevin, if you have a driver's license or state ID, you're already showing your birth certificate to the Secretary of State when you got that. You already showed your marriage license to the Secretary of State when you changed your name. So you don't have to do anything. You don't have to re-register. And we've written that right into the proposal, but that's what you'll hear the 17% maysayers say that it's somehow going to affect those people. It will not. What bothers me is when they say, oh, it's just a small number of illegal votes. It's not a big deal. It doesn't sway elections. If you can fix the problem, if you can tighten it up, why wouldn't you do that? Why would you just say, oh, you know, there's just a little bit of cheating going on? Yeah, why would you not fix it? That's a good question. And, you know, when I was county, clerk for Oakland County, we had a couple that were ties and had to pull the little tab out of a box when or lose, or people flip ties. Every vote counts. Everyone has to be a qualified voter. And that's how people have and feel that trust in our system. So it has to be done, and it can be done through citizens-only voting on the ballot initiative. But there's nothing in the system that checks any of it. Zero, zip. Nothing. And that's a problem. And then when you have a secretary of state saying that they're taking care of it, there is no list for her to look at, except where if somebody has a driver's license or state idea. And my question is, aren't these people being taken off that are non-citizens and they're criminals? I know you're not a journalism expert, but it bothers me that...

Where are the rest of the journalists on this case? This story is out there. I'm talking about it. The Gateway Pundant reported it. These are the kinds of stories that can be verified. You can go and look at these specifics and verify these and ask the Secretary of State about them specifically. But as I look for this story anywhere else, I'm just not seen it. Why is the media not interested in stories about election integrity? First of all, I want to thank you, Kevin, for getting the truth out. And secondly, I was very concerned watching a major news station here in Oakland County. And the reporter actually said, oh, to Jocelyn Benson, the current secretary, said, none of this is accurate, right? Oh, my gosh. And she goes, oh, we have Eric, which is a half the states sign up, too. They're supposed to clean our files, but only half the states are involved. And then we have local clerks and county clerks. No one has that information. he did not ask her exactly she just does these platitudes and he accepted them and he encouraged them and he actually led with him for her so i can't tell you why it's a great disservice to the people not to tell them the truth when you're in the business that you're in and so thank you again for doing that Well, we're about to elect a new Secretary of State, and I think it's something people should be aware of and they should look at people's stance on election integrity. And they're either for tightening the system up or they're not. And I think it's really important. And we appreciate the work that you've done on this. Ruth Johnson, Michigan State Senator, Republican from Holly, former Michigan Secretary of State. We appreciate your time. Drive safely. Thank you. You have a great day. All right. Yeah. I mean, really, we'll take your calls on this, by the way, 1-800-8-590 WJR. Does it bother you that we're not tightening up our voter rolls that, you know, citizens who've been deported can still vote, our voting, people who have moved, people who are dead, still eligible to vote? I mean, if we can tighten this up, we need to tighten it up, not just say, oh, well, it only happens every so often. It's All Talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. And it is 1136. That means it is your turn to talk. 1,800-859-0-957. 1-800-8-5-9-0-WJR. Kenan Harper-Woods has a question about the search warrant and the backpack in the Luigi case. Hey, Ken, welcome to All-Talk. Thanks, Kevin. Let's do a scenario, a couple scenarios. Let's say that they hear that particular suspect they've been chasing for a while, been after is hiding out at his house. Now, they have to get a search warrant to go into his house, correct? It depends, but yeah, go ahead. All right, now let's take another look at it and say that they're chasing. They see a guy run a red light. They chase him. He runs through another red light. They're still behind them. And then he slows down, makes a right turn, goes down a black and a half, stops, jumps out of the car and starts running. So they stop and run after him. And he runs into a house. Now, do they, can they just chase him into the house?

So they have to get us. Yes, so that's probable cause. They have probable cause. They watched him run the light. They witnessed him, you know, break the law, and they would be able to pursue him. Again, I'm not an attorney, but that's my understanding from covering cases like that. Now, the search warrant situation, if they just went up to, if a guy's just in a house that they say, like if someone tells them, hey, I saw Luigi go into that house, they probably would be able to go into that house without a search warrant. But if they just said, hey, here's five houses in the area that we think Luigi might have run into. They can't just go into any house and just start looking. They have to have some sort of probable cause, some sort of information that leads them to believe they're there. Otherwise, they can go get a search warrant. And, you know, in this case, when they're talking about what was found, this backpack was a few tables away from Luigi, if I understand it right. And, of course, this all came down while we were still on the air. If they weren't certain it was his backpack, then you need to go get a search warrant to go through it. Now, if it's on his back... while he's being apprehended and they go through it to, you know, make sure he doesn't have weapons and things like that. You don't need a search warrant in that case. And I'm guessing when we look at this, and we'll find out more, because the federal judge said that it's okay to keep this evidence, and the state court said it was not. So there must be some gray area as to whether these officers knew it was his backpack or not. But it does depend on the specific situation and what officers saw and what probable... cause they have. Well, going back to the judge that allowed them to, well, let's say he searched, they searched the backpack. Okay. And he allowed certain evidence to be admitted and other evidence not to be admitted. They did not allow. The only thing they allowed, that he allowed to be, or the judge allowed to be submitted or not submitted. The only thing allowed to be submitted from that backpack was the gun. How can you allow certain things to be submitted? That doesn't add up to me. If you're disqualifying the backpack because there wasn't a search warrant, then everything in it should be disqualified. I thought the way I read it, and again, I'm on air, so I haven't had a chance to dig into it. But I thought the gun was excluded as well. At least that gun. That was a 3D gun in the backpack. I'm going from memory. There was a notebook that said he wanted to kill an executive from a health care company.

and a couple of other things. I think everything in the backpack was excluded, Ken. Well, the gun wasn't, according to your or someone, that the gun was still semi- was still eligible to be Semitic. Well, I'll tell you what, we'll get a guest on this. We'll get a guest on this for tomorrow and get better information for you because it's really interesting to me why the federal case would allow the evidence, why the state case would not allow the evidence. And if you're saying that some of the evidence in the backpack was allowed and some wasn't, that doesn't add up to me. So I'd like to know why a gun would be allowed and why other evidence won't be. We'll find out more about this. Of course, the ruling just coming down this morning. Appreciate it, Ken. Let's go to Chuck and Franklin. He's talking about nukes in Iran. Yeah, Kevin. Well, I am an attorney, and you just did a really good job on Fourth Amendment rules. So kudos to you. You're better than you think. But, yeah, about Iran. In the 9 o'clock hour, everybody was talking about how we had a stark choice, an urgent one, either allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon or attack them. I don't know where that comes from. I mean, Trump says it, but he's lying. And I'm not aware of any intelligence source anywhere in the world, any of our allies, anywhere, proving that's true. I mean, it's a great big lie like 2020 was rigged and stolen is a great big lie. Chuck, you're breaking up a little. Can you say again what is the lie? Yeah, the lie is that Iran was on the brink of a nuclear weapon. It just isn't true. There's nothing out there to prove that. Trump says it. He repeatedly says it. Republicans are now every day saying it on the hour, and it's just there's no evidence of it. Well, I don't know what you think about this, Chuck, but I almost feel the other way. I feel like I feel like I'm reading reports that. Iran is still just as close as they ever were, and that this operation has not really pushed them back any further in their attempts to get nuclear weapons. Kevin, honestly, I think they are closer than they were in 2017 when Trump tore up the JCPOA. That's what... That was dumb decision number one. And now we're into dumb decision number two in a huge way. Well, you remember Operation Midnight Hammer? And Trump said we went in. It was back in the summer. We hit Iran and we obliterated their efforts to have nuclear weapons. And he said... He said that was the case at that point. They went in and Operation Midnight Hammer had taken care of that problem. And then just a few months later, for Operation Epic Fury, they said, oh, they're very close again. Well, I don't know how they obliterated them in Midnight Hammer, and then they suddenly regrouped in time for Epic Fury. So we don't have a very clear picture. At least for me, I don't have a clear picture either way, how close they were, how close they weren't, how close they are now. I really don't know. These are all unanswered questions right now.

Yeah, but we're suffering now. I mean, everybody's suffering with $150 gas fillups, and it's all in the name of allegedly... preventing Iran from having a nuclear weapon that can be inflicted on the region or the rest of the world. And it's just not true. It's no more true than saying that the 2020 presidential election was rigged and stolen. Yeah, I appreciate the call. Thanks. Yeah, I don't know if it's true or not. I don't know that there's evidence that it's not true. I don't know that there's evidence that it is true. Our government is telling us that it is true, and we'll have to see where that falls because there will be. lots of investigating when this thing finally ends. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. It's All Talk. I'm Kevin Dietz. Coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building on a Monday morning. Hope you're having a great day. Every week on All Talk, we recognize someone who's making a real and lasting difference in our community. This week's All Talk All-Star is a man who is helping shape the future of Southeastern Michigan, one student at a time. Jason Lee is the president and chief executive officer of Junior Achievement of South Eastern Michigan, one of the region's most impactful nonprofit organizations. provides work readiness, entrepreneurship, and financial literacy programs to more than 50,000 students across southeastern Michigan. Let's welcome Jason Lee, President, Chief Executive Officer of Junior Achievement of Southeastern Michigan. This week's All Talk All-Star. Good morning. How are you? I'm doing great, Kevin. How are you? I'm doing great. I appreciate you coming on. Tell us about junior achievement of southeastern Michigan. What's the mission statement? What's it all about? Well, our mission is to inspire and prepare the next generation for future success in a global economy. Junior achievement has been around for 106 years globally and here locally about 76 years. Our work spans getting young people into entrepreneurship, as well as financial literacy, and also exposing the different career pathways that are available locally. Well, I think about how few young people know about managing money. Most don't even know what a checkbook is anymore. They don't need them, I guess. Talk a little bit about the importance of teaching young people about managing money. Well, I mean, it's critical. It's a life skill, right? So as we think about, you know, how can we make able-bodied adults that are contributing to society, you know, having financial wherewithal is important. And in this area, in this region, we are dealing with one of the most unbanked communities in the country. And so we're working to kind of dispel that from the future.

When you talk about launching businesses or preparing for careers, those are two different things. Preparing for careers, one, launching a business being entrepreneurial is different. Talk about the differences in how you, do you determine where kids' desires are, or do you just teach both? So I'll answer that about kind of giving a little history here. So Junior Achievement, you know, we were created kind of similar to 4-H. 4-H was designed to create the next generation of farmers for America. Junior Achievement was designed to create the next generation of business leaders and entrepreneurs for America. So our first programs were around entrepreneurship, taking your own person through the whole cycle of creating a business, writing a business plan. creating a product, sourcing inventory, selling that product, even closing the business. And we realized through our history that a lot of young people to be really successful as an entrepreneur need to have strong financial management skills. So we created a suite of programming around that space where we're giving young people the exposure to wants versus needs. You know, you may want that piece of candy, but you really need to have food. And so giving new people that foundation and then building from there talking about taxes and banking and loans and good credit versus bad credit, it just was helpful in our success in terms of creating that next generation leader for our community. But we also realize that young people today just don't have an idea what kind of jobs are available in the market. They see the names. They see the decals on the side of buildings, but they have no idea what types of jobs and careers are available. So that's the type of programming that we really do with our young people today. Yeah, that is one thing that is really true. When you ask people what people do for a living or for work, they know, they know what a fireman does, they know what a policeman does, they know what a teacher does. When you just say business, they're not sure what the day-to-day even looks like. And I think it's a great education for people to be able to get a better understanding of what happens. When you think about the challenges that students or young people face as they prepare for adulthood, what are some of the bigger challenges?

That can, you know, I mean, obviously there's lots of conversation around the academic foundation and preparation, particularly here in the state of Michigan, where we've seen a decline in our national status when it comes to having our young people prepare. But a lot of education starts at home, and many of our young people. may have some challenges when it comes to getting exposure. This is still a community where your zip code really matters where, you know, your level of exposure oftentimes comes from. And we are navigating and trying to give young people those opportunities to get a leg up in that space. It's just a challenging environment, not only locally, but also nationally. What are, like, what would a success story look like someone who came through your organization? That's a great question. So a success story for junior achievement would be throughout their K-12 experience, they have had exposure at multiple levels. At the elementary school level, they've learned what a one versus need is. They've learned that how a city runs through civics, through our curriculums that we have in that space to expose young people to how businesses and how government is such an integral part. of your day-to-day life. And then they get to middle school and they kind of build their foundation from there, some basics around financial literacy. And then also kind of exposure early on to different career pathways, where we have some of our volunteers go in facility programming maybe in their school or maybe at an event here at our facility in downtown Detroit. And then at the high school level, they may be utilizing JA to to support or even meet the new high school graduation requirement for personal finance that came out a couple years ago. So just having that level of exposure would be great. So they just had multiple contacts throughout their K-12 experience and hopefully they're prepared. Do parents get excited and want to, I don't know, reinforce the lessons at home or be a part of it? Well, you know, that's always something that we encourage. As a matter of fact, we have a free online service called jacconnect is connect.j.j.org. And it's a free service where you can take those lessons home about financial literacy, even saving for college or even entrepreneurship. But we will love for a kid to come. to JA and realize, A, that, you know, money is a very important thing, and you've got to be a good steward of that. But also, I've had several students say, I'm going to give my parent a big hug when I come home because I might ask for that cup of coffee or that fast food meal every day or so, but I didn't realize how much it adds up. You must love your job. How did you get started down that path? You know, an interesting career. So I'm actually an engineer by degrees. I have an undergraduate from University of Maryland, Baltimore County, and I have two master's degrees in engineering from University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. And I started my career at Ford Motor Company, but I was always involved in a community. I volunteered pretty much day one when I got to Detroit.

I had an opportunity to be what's called an executive on loan from Ford, where I ran a program called DAPSEP, Detroit Pre-C college engineering program for multiple years, and that kind of cut my teeth in the nonprofit sector here in Detroit. But I've always been passionate about youth and supporting them because someone supporting me growing up and giving me exposure opportunities. So I've had some of different experiences in the nonprofit sector. And since you got kidnapped to come over to junior achievement about seven years ago, and it's been a great experience. I bet it has. What advice do you have for young people who might want to give back in a similar way? Well, you know, I think everybody should be giving back in some way, whether it's through, you know, an organization, a church, or a club or fraternity, sorority, whatever the case might be. Our community needs to support. And it's not just a support of like a particular demographic. Everybody needs support to be successful. and creating that village around them is important. So someone has poured into you as a young person and giving the opportunity to give back to maybe even a young, a sibling, a brother or an elementary school student is just great to do. Where can people learn more about JA? So happy to go to our website, J.A.Michigan.org. Just check us out on social media. We're pretty heavy on LinkedIn, Facebook and Instagram. And just, you know, look us up and happy to connect. That's awesome. Jason Lee, CEO of Junior Achievement of Southeastern Michigan. This week's All Talk, All-Star. Thank you for the work you do. And thank you for your time this morning in the conversation. I appreciate being here. Thank you. All right. That is going to do it for all talk today. Thanks for listening. Thanks for calling in The Great. Paul W. Smith and Focus is next right here on W.J.R. 760 a.m.