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And so I can't imagine the whore. They'll be feeling lying ahead to what they have to go through. And I've quite a bit of references to this and others. And if you want to follow me on X, it's at Willie, W-I-L-L-L-E-S-H-H-H-H-E-Sept. W-L-W, which is my home station, at Willie. And I put lots of good stuff up there about what's happening in regard to this, including the fact today that all but three or four National Football League teams. honored Charlie Kirk, even the New York Yankees did it, and having a moment of silence, but three teams did not do it, including the Cincinnati Bengals, the Detroit Lions, the Baltimore Ravens. We'll see what happens in the future. Other games are going on. I'm not sure what's going to happen there. To watch this event transpire and to see on the liberal progressive side. Exactly. Their feelings about faith, Christianity, God, family, and America, it really is totally despicable. How these individuals can live is kind of beyond my capabilities to understand how they can say to a man, his main three principles, or God, family, and America. And those are not institutions and entities that the radical left cares about whatsoever because all those things provide restraint and pride. And, of course, no one, they cannot have that in their world. To go back in time, you might recall that President Joe Biden said, quote, it's time to put Trump in a bullseye. Quote, the president, Joe Biden said, before the shooting of Donald Trump. Quote, time to put Trump in a bullseye, unquote. He later said he shouldn't have said that. You might recall one of the first speeches he gave about the so-called mega movement. I mean, who can argue trying to make America great again? Well, the media argues with that. Liberals, professors, colleges argue with that constantly. He stood in front of Independence Hall in Philadelphia, dressed in a bright red with two Marine guards standing behind him. talking about the dangers of the mega movement being essentially Nazis and being fascist. Hey guys, Lady Luck here. Are you going on any road trips this summer? I know I'm going to be going on a bunch of road trips. And being that I'm going to be passenger princess, I love playing on SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest has all of my favorite slot games, live blackjack, live craps. Head on over to SpinQuest right now and get yourself a $30 coin pack for just $10.00. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Boydware prohibited, visitspinquest.com for more details. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are, listening to me, which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering.

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which is really unbelievable. And then you also have the Steve Scalise situation and with three were wounded. Stephen Scalicia would have been murdered except for the activities of Dr. Brad Winstrip, congressman who was with him. So each branch of government came at him. And if you join me in trying to watch, trying to watch on TikTok, on YouTube, on X, all which should be taken down. Hundreds of thousands, millions of comments. of so-called influencers and others urging that more be killed and of course some of the names are the stars of conservatism beginning with j k rowling and matt walsh and of course donald trump according to president biden has a bozai on him Thank God there was a bad shot from that rooftop in Butler County, Pennsylvania. Ben Shapiro is a proud man who's not going to cancel appearances and is going to be a college campus. God bless him. Elon Musk and Andy No and many others. There's a bullseye, according to Joe Biden on all of us who think differently. And make no mistake about it. This is the ideation and the proof. that the evil, Lucifer, the devil exist, as does good, as does Jesus Christ, as by God, by whatever first name you want to call him, that also exists. And for every mountain there's a valley, every desert, there's an ocean. By that I mean for every good act, there's a bad one. And when I get to heaven, I pray to God, I get there with you. I want to ask God Almighty at some point, tell me again why you would allow. The assassination, the murder of a husband and a father and a man like Charlie Kirk who had done so much in 13 years and had planned to do so much more. Tell me why that happened. And I know that Erica, based upon her comments on Friday night, we have the strength of character to be the kind of mother and father she now must be. I know financially and emotionally there will be support for. JD Vance, my friend and yours, will be there at his side, Israel, Donald Trump. And JD Vance and was about 10 years older than Charlie Kirk, they were the best of buddies. They would spend time arguing about Christianity's perspective, whether it's Catholicism or whether it's Protestantism. And they would go back and forth in a friendly way. I consider them branches, two different branches of the same tree. And they would friendly argue about which is what, because JD Vance converted to Catholicism about five years ago and attends my church. And, of course, Charlie Kirk converted, I don't know, 15 or 16 years ago sometime in his teenage years. He looked at America and said, you've got to be kidding me. We can't survive like this. He was correct. Practically every major American city is in total collapse, culturally, economically, high prices, lots of crime, sanctuary city status, terrible schools without available middle class jobs for anyone. It used to be, as Charlie Kirk would often say, you know, what it was true 30 or 40 years ago, you could form a family structure. Generally, the man made enough money so the mother, the wife could stay home and raise the children.

And there was a family structure right now because of the taxes and expenses of living. You can't do that anymore. So now certain other groups have gone after Charlie Kirk and others in Turning Point USA complaining about that. But I want to set up tonight's show, which I believe it will be a tribute to Charlie. And coming up in about 20 minutes will be a somewhat recent interview I had with Charlie Kirk. And somehow, for many, many years, we did not cross paths. And about three years ago in July or August of 2022, our paths crossed when he had a book out called The College Scam. How colleges are indoctrination centers. If you're not at liberal by the time you come out, you'll be a liberal radical leftist by the time you complete your degree. You come in as a normal person. You kind of leave as a female with rings in your nose and toes. And it's a marching Marxist that come out. And that is the institutions in which Charlie Kirk spent his ministry, spent his time speaking to those kids in a reasoned fashion. And some of the best conversations he had was about a transgender college kid that would get the microphone, prove me wrong. And he would, in a friendly, non-confrontational, non-violent way, he always would say when talking ends, that's essentially when violence begins. He wanted to make sure it didn't happen. I looked on YouTube at a get-together with Charlie Kirk at Penn State in which a person stepped forward who was transitioning from male to female, and he was kind, he was understanding. But he told this person that body parts can be changed, that minds. can be drugged, that hormones can be pumped through a child system, but the DNA never changes. It's either X, X or X, Y. And the genome that identifies what sex you are cannot be altered. And he essentially said, look, I can put on blackface. That doesn't make me an African American. And he said, I can put on a Penn State basketball jersey. I bet I can't make the team. And if I put on a dress, that doesn't make me a girl. It is what it is. And you've been sold lies and please get help. I can't imagine a 14 or 15 year old being permitted to gamble, smoke cigarettes, or take illegal drugs. But guess what? The system will arise and tell that 14 or 15 year old, you know what? You can change your gender slash sex and becomes the opposite gender by the mere expression thereof with proper hormonal treatments and eventually surgery, which is proven in Western Europe to be a disaster. It doesn't work. There's more suicides after transition than before, and it's painful. For some odd reason, we have an American society, the American Medical Association, American Pediatric Association, all of which say you can have a child. A baby transfer genders based upon expression and the proper ingestation of hormones and drugs, which screws that person up permanently. And somehow, maybe the money's involved until about seven or eight years ago it was a mental disorder. Now it's supporting billions of dollars in payments to children's hospitals all over the country. How is that possible? It's true the implementation of evil. Three principles. God.

Family in America is what Charlie Kirk preached all the days of his life. And he died. He was murdered doing exactly what he wanted to do in the circumstances in which he wanted to live and present himself. And I watched, there was a 10-minute presentation before he was murdered in cold blood by a liberal activist. And that liberal activist, according to the governor of Utah, is living with in a romantic relationship with a transitioning person who is transitioning from male to female. And the murderer waited until there's a question to ask about transgenderism in order to murder Charlie Kirk. And I'm suspicious only one person is involved. New York Post on Saturday had some reporting on that. We'll see what happens. But tonight I seldom give tribute to one person in this century. You would have to say that Rush Limbaugh and Charlie Kirk and, of course, my best friend in media, Sean Hannity, are the three horsemen that are trying, trying their best to present conservative principles. Two are now dead. One, may I say in a natural way, the great Rush Limbaugh, the other was murdered because of what he was saying and what he believed in. He was a martyr for his principles. So we're going to play my interview with Charlie Kirk. For some reason, our paths have not crossed until the middle of the summer of 2022 about his book, The College Scam. We're going to play that for you. At the top of the next hour after that, we have Eric Trump, who shall we say the Trump family considers or consider Charlie to be a fellow brother of theirs. It's going to be with you to talk about the reaction of the family. And later on is Dr. John Brady, who's a forensic psychologist from California, who has studied mass murderers and assassinations, all of them for the past 70 years, and he sees a continuing thread between Sirhan, Sirhan, Lee Harvey Oswald, and James Earl Ray, and Malcolm X. and Lee Harvey and all the rest that killed noted political figures because they wanted to make a name for themselves and he acted upon the information upon which they were told. Garbage in, garbage out. At no point did this cold-blooded murderer in Utah get the truth about Charlie Kirk. He listened and watched media that he wanted to watch and listen to. He was a gamer and he acted upon what he was told that this is a fascist. Hey, fascist, catch. was written by the murderer on a shell casing that killed Charlie Kirk. Where do you get that phrase from? How about CNN and MSNBC? Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks.

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Let's continue with more. 23 minutes after the hour. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. Thanks, everything that should be up is down, down is up. America's hurting right now and about half the country is doing an end zone dance thinking it's a great thing when a husband and father is murdered and cold blood in front of his family. They consider that to be a good thing. It's kind of a bloodlust. You know, if you believe that freedom of speech is yours and no one else's, especially your political opponents, you're wrong. If no contrary evidence about the goodliness of Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk could change your beliefs, you're probably a fundamentalist untethered to reason. If you believe the state should punish those with a contrary viewpoint, i.e. Joe Biden saying that Donald Trump has a bull's eye on him. Chuck Schumer implicitly says to attack Brett Kavanaugh. that a Bernie Sanders supporter wants to decapitate the Republicans in the house at a baseball practice, you're probably a totalitarian. And if you believe your political opponents should be punished with violence or death, then you're a terrorist. Those advocating and applauding the murder of this husband and father who held no political office and simply wanted to talk with people, that somehow that was a good thing, then you're a terrorist. And one thing I put on my ex account I want to share with you, I said last night late, too much chatter. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth relative to the murder of Charlie Kirk, we would be left blind, unable to eat solid food. You and I are hurting right now. But lift up your eyes. Listen to Erika Kirk. Listen to your better angels. Let's be sure the world is left better. not more vengeful because of what happened to Charlie. What would Charlie want you to do? He'd want you to go to a college campus. He'd want you to volunteer. He'd want you to get involved with big brothers, big sisters. He'd want you to donate time at a pickleball tournament for some charity. He'd want you to love the woman you're with. Ladies, love the man you're with. He'd want you to ask your wife or husband every day. How can I be a better husband? How can I be a better wife? Ask your moms and dads. How can I be a better son or a daughter? Ask your brothers and sisters. How can I be a better brother to you and a sister? Ask your employer. How can I be a better employee? Submit yourself, whoever you are. How can I be a better talk show host? Coming up next is my interview with Charlie Kirk. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night.

Billy Cunningham, the great American. Charlie Kirk spent 31 years on this earth. He came out of the state of Illinois and early got into politics, his mom and dad. In fact, his father was an architect. He had something to do. He worked on the Trump Tower in Chicago. He also, Charlie joined a member of the Boy Scouts and earned the rank. He was an Eagle Scout. Early on, he started reading books, Milton Friedman and others. And one of the best things I've seen recently is the great one, Mark Levin, and Charlie Kirk, teeing it up together back and forth about Rousseau, about Kant, about the founding of this country, and other great philosophers of the past and present. And for some reason, it took a while, but he got a hold of me in 2022. I think it was the summer or fall. And one of the first things I said to him off the air was, and on the air, I said, why haven't our paths crossed before it? He said, I don't know at some point they would have to, I guess. And so from that point on, we exchanged messages tither and fro, and I can't believe that, I can't believe he's gone. Put him up there with Rush Limbaugh, Milton Friedman, put him up there with Wayne F. Buckley, William Rush, put him up there with Sean Hannity. and others who has significant impact in the lives outweighing to an extent the indoctrination from mainstream media types from all the movies, the films, the television shows, the colleges, universities, most of the major labor unions, etc. And against all that, Charlie Kirk said, not on my watch. He began at the age of 18 with Turning Point USA and the rest is history. So here is my interview. It was in 2022 with the great Charlie Kirk. Joining you and I now is Charlie Kirk. He's the author of the college scam and so much more founder and executive director of Turning Point USA. And Charlie Kirk, I think for the first time, welcome to the Bill Cunningham show and how we avoided each other these, low these many years. How's that possible? So it's hard to believe, but our paths were inevitably going to cross. So honor to be here. Thank you. Talk to me about the reason, because this is one of the great scams along with the energy scam, along with the southern border scam in American history. When I went to college, maybe when you went to college, it was inexpensive. And I went to Xavier University, went to University of Toledo Law School, took out some minor student loans, paid them off within five years. I think when I came out and my wife came out. We owed a total of about $1,800, and it took about five years. It wasn't a big deal. Going back in time, what did the so-called experts say 15, 20 years ago and looking forward to the future as to how college would not only be important, but it would be a scam. Describe the book, The College Scam and why it should apply today to men, women, and their parents and grandparents. Sure, yeah. I actually never went to college, which is one of the reasons I wrote the book, is that in some ways I'm the best person and the worst person that talk about how college is a scam. But I make up for any deficit that I might have had in personal experience with actually visiting over 100 campuses at Turning Point USA and speaking at every corner you could imagine and running a national student organization. But look, I mean, in the book, the college scam and people can get it at college scam.com, we go through a 10-count indictment.

where we talk about the necessary, the failings of college and as if I am a prosecutor and you are the jury. And so I make it very, very factual because I know this topic. and somewhat controversial and people get really fired up. And we go through every possible counter argument. Oh, Charlie, don't you need a degree to be able to get a job? Oh, Charlie, isn't it necessary? Are they really that bad? We talk about all of that. And I make the argument that the vast majority of students that are going to college should not be going at all. I make the argument that there's very little to any redeemable college or institutions left. And I think that this is a multi-trillion dollar scam that has been thrown on the American people. It's right in front of us. We all know it at some level, and yet we're putting up with it through taxpayer subsidies, conservative donor donations, and also through our children, which is the most disturbing thing. I mean, I was just talking to somebody who said, Charlie, you know, I love the fact you're writing this book, but my kids are still going to go to college because I want my kids to be educated. Well, if you want your child to be educated. Definitely don't send them to college. The exact opposite will happen. In fact, when you're in college, what are two or the three things parents don't know about that happens in almost every college, including private schools? I can't tell you. I have friends of mine with kids at Notre Dame, South Bend. One would perceive, hey, my kid got admitted to Notre Dame. And now what they're doing is taking down the statues of previous presidents at Notre Dame are putting cloths around them so they can't be seen. So it isn't just public schools like UCLA, Ohio State, Florida State. University of Texas and Austin. Austin, Texas has become the San Francisco of the Lone Star State. But isn't it true that this virus or this cancer cells that metastasized, not just in large so-called land-grant colleges, but also small colleges or maybe the worst Oberlin college, for example, comes to mind? But isn't it true, it's gone to almost every college, large and small, and they produce marching Marxist? who come out marching to the tune with their red kerchiefs on about what they've learned, and God help you disagree. First of all, why did this happen? What's the reason? Well, look, I'll say this. By the way, private schools are sometimes even worse than the state schools. I could tell you what. Because there's no oversight from local state legislatures or governors. They just do whatever they want. But how did this happen? We talk about it in the book. I don't have enough time to build it out now. But you mentioned something interesting. It happened largely because of this, where someone says, yeah, my kid's going to Notre Dame. That's right. Most upper middle-class parents live vicaries with their children, and they don't care if their kid might become. some sort of non-binary, transgender, vegan, left-wing socialist, open border, anti-American atheist, as long as they could say my kid went to Notre Dame. Upper middle class suburban parents, unfortunately, I say this politely but factually, they have pushed their children into psychological and spiritual and political confusion so that they can brag to their neighbors that their kid went to Notre Dame.

When parents sit around in April, May, June of every year, where should a kid go into school? Well, my kid's going to University of Pittsburgh. That's interesting. My kid's going to University of Tennessee. Well, that's good. And then someone says, my kid's going to Yale. My kid's going to Harvard. And suddenly the chess is pumped out. My kid's going to Yale. My kid's going to Harvard. How do we, Charlie, how can we stop this for the next generation when it is so inculcated in the souls of the American people? Parents say, my kid's going to Princeton. Oh, great. Why? Yeah, I mean, part of the problem is that parents have to stop caring about that. But, I mean, that's not going to happen anytime soon. But I'm trying to go about breaking it in this book. I mean, a stated goal of this book is trying to decline college enrollment. This is not just, you know, this is not just something where I'm saying these things. I want less kids to go to college. I think it's a good thing for everybody. It's good for the kids, good for the families, good for the country. And that's really on parents that are going to have to say, you know what? College is not the right option for my child, and I'm okay with that. Who cares what your neighbors say? Who cares of your relatives say? But I underestimated, and I've grown to learn in the last couple of years, the power of social pressure. when it comes to upper middle class suburban families and the trajectory of kids going to college. We got to fix it. And look, I say this to conservative parents all the time. I say, would you go send your kid right now for four years to go learn from CNN? Just go send them to New York or go send to Atlanta. That's colleges are worse. They're far worse. Let me share with you the comments of a second grade teacher, not particularly applicable to the college scam, your book, but it's going to get to that point. Before we talk about elder abuse, which is what's happening in Joe Biden, but out of the state of Illinois. A teacher, a second grade teacher, said that her entire classroom of 19 second graders switched genders and pronouns after one student came forward. One of my students felt safe enough to share his pronouns with me. And this is an eight-year-old with pronouns. And when he did so, once the class knew that I knew, they all switched pronouns. They wanted to be called non-binary or they want to be called they. And so these are Charlie Kirk. These are second graders, and a teacher is told you must address the student by the selective conscious pronoun as expressed by an eight-year-old. Now, if that's not indictment number 11 in your book, I don't know what would be. Yeah, and where did that teacher learn that at a teacher's college at a university? And this is what I'm trying to do also with this book. I'm trying to connect two threads together that everyone knows exists. Your country's becoming less free, and you see this transgender alphabet mafia nonsense happening in local communities. Why do you think that's happening? They get it from the colleges. And so stop giving money to your colleges. Red states defund them completely and totally together. I believe that every red state should defund the humanities and only support science, technology, engineering, and math.

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Well, yeah, and that's been going on for quite a while. Finally, parents are waking up to it, not to mention the pornography that is being taught to kids every single day in these schools. But where would such an idea happen where you don't want to notify parents? In colleges, they teach your parents are wrong, they're outdated, and we need a new normal. It all goes back to colleges, funded largely by Republican politicians that have allowed the albatross of these colleges that continue, conservative donors and conservative parents that send their kids to these institutions. I've developed the last few weeks of theory that Joe Biden is a victim of elder abuse. Let me explain. Elder abuse occurs when family members or those connected to older folks that can't control their own affairs, manipulate and use them for their benefits and not the benefit of the old person. Joe Biden, if you look at the video of three or four years ago or five years ago as he left the vice presidency, he looked completely different five, six years ago than he looks today. Obviously, because of COVID-19. He had brain fog before he contracted COVID-19. And now he's seriously going to have more problems. But the Democratic Party needed a vehicle, an empty vehicle, to transport their Marxist socialist ideas all over Washington, all over the country. And whether it's his family taking advantage of Joe Biden, shall we say financially, Hunter Biden. But I do believe for many years, Joe Biden knew exactly what was going on with the financial scams in the Ukraine, Russia, and China. He was benefiting. He was the big guy. But recently, he's not mentally alert and doesn't know. what's going on? And so, in a sense, the Democratic Party wanted an empty vessel. And now that the vehicle has wrecked, the Biden presidency is in shambles at this particular point, they're going to throw him overboard and find someone else. ISU Charlie Kirk, is Joe Biden mentally competent to be the president of the United States today? Well, no, of course not. I mean, most people know that's insane. And, I mean, look, he is a vessel. He is just a puppet. I do fear for what comes next. I don't think he's going to run in 2024. I think he was a means to the end. He was a bridge. to try to bring the Democrats into power. And what comes next, we shall see. But I think the biggest concern that we have in front of us right now is to make sure our elections stay fair. We need to be fair and fix them completely and totally. And look, I think the Democrats are going to have a primary. We'll see what happens. I think Gavin Newsom might run and we'll see who else. Lastly, this previous weekend, you put together the big deal, Turning Point USA. And I think a poll was done of those thousands in attendance as far as their preferential candidate in 2024. And of course, what's happening with the January 6th Commission, which I guess is in recess, it'll be going on as long as CNN needs time to be filled. But nonetheless, who won the poll? But other than Donald Trump, who won the poll? And secondly, who was well received?

We had Donald Trump won convincingly, and the poll was brought to you by Turning Point Action, our sister political organization. And then coming up in second, not in second, was, of course, Rhonda Sansa's 19%. But I also want to say, though, that we did another question, which is, if not Trump, then who? Ron DeSantis got 83% of that vote. So if Trump does not run, 83%. And so that goes to show really the state of the Republican Party right now. that there is really no appetite or desire amongst the conservative base of anything outside of Trump or Stantis. And there is a belief and there is a support right now of Trump that he has earned the right to run for a third time. No question. I can only imagine if Trump was still in the White House and that Eric Trump with bags of cash flew around the Ukraine, China, and Russia collecting $30 million and giving a cut to the big guy. What would the Congress do with Eric Trump collecting $30 million? And what would the media do if a daughter? of Donald Trump came out in a diary and talked about showering with her dad and how those events so colored her life that she became a drug addict and became addicted to sex. What the media would have done to that? Can you imagine Trump's in the White House and there's truthful evidence coming out that Eric Trump traveled the world to collect bags of cash to partially to give to his dad? What would the media have done with that? I mean, he would be in jail by now, that's for sure. He'd be on work release. All right, once again, Charlie Kirk, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. The book is The College Scam. It's everywhere. And good luck, and I'm just thankful that you're out there helping young folks and parents understand the scam that is most of the colleges. And Charlie Kirk, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you. Thanks so much. I was in July of 2022, the college scam. You know, Charlie Kirk applied to West Point, was not admitted. He went one semester to college, didn't like it, thought it was worthless, self-educated with some of the greatest scholars of our time in conservatism. And all you can say is Charlie Kirk lived a long and a productive life, as short as it was, being murdered at the age of 31. We're left to imagine what would have happened. Would he become the president, maybe number 49 or 50? Would he have five or six children? Would he have had 15 or 20 grandchildren? The impact is unknown. So as Erica, his wife said on Friday night that you and I have got to pick up the banner and run forward and make sure that his death was not in vain. She called him a martyr. Of course he was a martyr. And I just pray to God that when the messenger is murdered, that the message will continue. Well, let's continue with more. And I mentioned three years ago what would have happened of Eric Trump was traveling the world, picking up cash all over the place from the nation's enemies and giving a cut to Donald. What would have happened? You heard what Charlie Kirk said? He'd be in jail. Well, absolutely. But that same Joe Biden, a few years later, said, put a bullseye on Donald Trump.

Not as fortunate would have it. I mentioned in my interview with Charlie Kirk, you just heard Eric Trump. He's going to join us in about 10 minutes from Mar-a-Lago to talk about the legacy of Charlie Kirk. And later on, we're going to play the words of Erika Kirk. The widow, the wife, have a hard time saying widow with such a beautiful woman and mother, only 35 years old. And also later on, we'll be Dr. John Brady. from California about a line drawn for all the political assassinations, how to predict them and why they take place. So let's continue with more. Eric Trump is next. Bill Cunningham, say a prayer for the family of Charlie Kirk with you every Sunday. Choice Hotels. Economelodge and Roadway Inn hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay. Book at choiceotels.com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not one but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast excellence. The one and only, Bill Cunningham. Eric Trump, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show. You wrote this treaties on what the system has done to you and your family. You know, Bill, I mean, the title of the book is so fitting, under siege, right? It's exactly what they've done to my father. It's exactly what they did to my family. It's exactly what they've done to our movement. I really, in the book, I get into kind of the, you know, the behind-the-scenes stories, you know, of the assassination attempts against my father, you know, both of them, the one, father, Pennsylvania, the one in Palm Beach. you know, all the weaponizations, the impeachments, the taking my father off the ballot in two different states in Maine, Colorado, what they tried to do to Brett Kavanaugh, the weaponization of AGs, of DAs, you know, the gag orders of my father, trying to put him in prison, what they did to me, the 112 subpoenas I got, what they did to our company, they tried to bankrupt us, they tried to break our family apart. I mean, they did everything humanly possible. They threw all of us off of Instagram and Facebook and and twitter they tried to remove our voice you know and then they tried to kill my father as i said before twice um you know i mean look what they look what they did to steve skilis now look what they did to charlie kirk i mean the bullets are only flying one way and and that's what this is it is a siege that's why i called them i mean even before i chose the name of under siege i chose the name of this book before butler pennsylvania because of all of what they were doing to us on a legal lawfare side and you know, a monetary side and all the games of the radical left in this country. And then they tried to shoot my father. Now they've shot, you know, Charlie, which, which, you know, I mean, he symbolized an entire movement for, for tens and tens of millions of youthful Americans who love this country, love our, love our flag, are proud of our country. You know, and now you watch an effectively high-definition TV as blood's coming out of his neck. And by the grace of God, my father didn't have the same fate, you know, 14 months ago when they tried to kill him. And by the grace of God in Palm Beach, a secret service guy saw a maniac hiding behind a tree, hiding in the bushes with an AK-47. This is the siege. They want to try and eliminate our party. They want to try and eliminate the powerful voices of our party. They want to use every form.

of lawfare and political weaponization to try and destroy bank dropped and frankly inflict harm and and it's exactly i mean the timing of me publishing this and announcing the book you know everybody can buy it on amazon it's a believe me the new york times are not going to want people to read this or go do everything they can to keep me off the bestseller list But, I mean, the timing of this, given what happened yesterday, I mean, Charlie was a dear friend of mine. I met him when he was 21 years old. He came into my office in New York when I think at the time he had built maybe six or seven chapters for Turning Point in the entire country. And he had these incredible aspirations of what he was going to do and a movement he was going to build and how he was going to transform college campuses all across the country. And he did it. And I don't think there's been anybody more effective at turning out. youth vote in this nation than charlie i mean he's a miraculous person he was a dear friend i've sat on that stage with charlie i mean dozens maybe hundreds of times across the country and you know to see a good friend gone and and and just to see exactly what's happened to to our entire family continued to be propelled by these absolute psychopathic lunatics is freaking, you know, heartbreaking and truly makes everybody in this country distraught. Eric Trump, the thing about Charlie is, I don't know too many 18-year-olds who say, you know what, I can self-teach myself more than I'm going to learn in college that generally produces marching Marxists who come out hating Jews, hating the country, hating family, and so I'll do it myself. They have that guy, when he was 18 years old, hell, he couldn't legally buy a beer. to begin a movement that ultimately resulted in Turning Point USA, thousands on college campuses. And I'll say it early, I'll say it again. No one person was more responsible for the election of your dad to the presidency in 2024 than Charlie Kirk. In fact, what was thrown at your family. is the hand of God had to be involved because there was no way that you went through Letitia James. You went through New York City criminal prosecutions. You went through Fani Willis and Nathan Way, that crap. You went through Smith. You went through all that stuff. No family who weren't billionaires could have even got as far as you got. But that wasn't good enough. In Butler County, Charlie Kirk and the video I watched it once, it's awful. That was your dad. Your father's brain should have been all over a Butler County. facility there in Pennsylvania but for the hand of God your dad took his turn to the right to point at a chart otherwise he would have been murdered and that didn't stop him in fact the man on trial now on the second attempt on your father's life now on his so-called manifesto said Donald Trump's a threat to democracy now where have we heard that before Yeah, it's really amazing how the bullets are only flying in one direction. And as I said before, they tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh. They tried to kill Steve Scalise. They tried to kill my father twice. Now they killed Charlie Kirk. I mean, they tried to kill us in every other way, right? You know, in terms of, you know, they wanted to see me in jail. They wanted to see my father in jail. It's exactly what under siege talks about, right? I mean, to lay at siege is to surround. It's just in prison. It's to...

ultimately with the goal of total elimination they are going after the most powerful people in this movement and they will stop at nothing they will use the law you know the legal system they will use the political system they will use corruption they will weaponize financial institutions half of your listeners on here and i spent a lot of time talking about in the book got debank got de-platformed You know, lost bank accounts at Wells Fargo and at JP Morgan and at Capital One and so many other banks. I mean, just stripped. You know why? Because they believed in they were Republicans. They were conservatives. They believed in God. They believed in faith. They wore a hat that said, make America great again. You know, and when they realized they were losing, right? They resorted to violence. When they realized they lost all seven swing states, when they realized Bill that they lost the popular vote. When they realized that every state in the country, every state shifted to the right substantially. In California, we won 11 counties that we had never won before. We won Miami-Dade by 11%. A county that has not gone Republican. In 37 years, we won Miami-Dade by 11%. So not only did we flip it, but we won it by a super majority. Bill, they are petrified of what's happening in this country. They are petrified of the movement. And that's why these people are resorting to physical violence. And it's heartbreaking and it's horrible. And it's exactly what I talk about in the book under siege. It's exactly what I wrote about. And as I said, it's absolutely tragic that this book came out two days before Charlie was assassinated. It just. hits the point home that these people will stoop to to any levels to stop the greatest political movement this country has ever seen. Eric Trump, the other factor, I know you probably haven't done this, but online, the vitriol, the acidity comments on the left are unbridled. I have seen college professors say Charlie Kirk is dead, rest in peace, you son of a, you know what. I watch the anesthesiologist from Miami, a doctor, a female doctor, calling Charlie Kirk a piece of human excrement, and they're applauding his murder. There's thousands, maybe millions online. There's a website saying, go to hell Charlie Kirk, and which thousands are, the hate is unbridled. And this, you know, I like to think in three or four days, okay, it'll, you know, it'll pick up the New York Times obituary was disgusting. awful. Your hometown, I think you now live in Florida, but nonetheless, this will not stop the left. They're going to have three or four days where MSNBC may fire a commentator or two for making like Matthew Dowd's stupid comments, but this will come back. They're going to lay low and come back harder because the messenger is dead. They killed the messenger. Now they want to destroy the message. You know what I'm saying?

Well, I thought they were the tolerant left. Isn't that what they always tell everybody? You know, the tolerant left? There's nothing tolerant about them. You know how many envelopes of white powder I've received in the mail? You know how many times Laura's opened up a package? Right? And all of a sudden, white powder comes flying out all over our, you know, all over our kitchen. You know, there's nothing cholering about these people. You know, many times people have tried to spit in our faces. And, you know, this is what they do when the argument is lost. When they can't argue back, you know, what they do, they resort to violence. And that's what they've done the entire time. They resort to violence. They resort to slander. They resort to absolute corruption. They resort to lawfare. And that's what they've done. They put our party under siege. They put our family under siege. They put all of us under siege. They put our movement, you know, under siege. And thank God as a family, it's only by the grace of God that we had a lot of zeros on the back of our name. And we could afford to fight the BS. And it's only by the grace of God that we have awfully loud voices and awfully loud platforms to communicate on, albeit. Censorship is one of the biggest themes of the book, which is the way they tried to censor the hell out of all of us. I mean, I didn't grow a single follower on Instagram, you know, for, you know, for an eight-year period of time because all the dials were turned down. My father was thrown off of Twitter like a dog. I mean, they left Boca Haram. They left the Ayatollah. They left the Taliban. They left all these. What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky. And America is turning 250. And I can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, SpinQuest.com. With all of your favorite games, live craps, bubble craps, live blackjack, there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes. SpinQuest.com. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Boy, where prohibited, visit SpenQuest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with Eyeheart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Visit iHeartadvertising.com. Again, that's iHeartadvertising.com. Mom, can I have Lingo Kids? Stop, Lingo Kids, please! When did we become the Lingo Kids' house? No idea. Last week it was dinosaurs. This week it's... Why Lingo Kids? Because it's the best thing ever. We can play games. With astronauts, wild animals, and superheroes. With more than 4,000 interactive games, songs, and shows, Lingo Kids is the number one entertainment platform for young kids. So, no dinosaurs? And dinosaurs. Mingo Kids! Everything kids love. Download it for free. Step into the world of power, loyalty.

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Think about the marketplace of ideas should be a college campus. They're being doctrinated to think, to kill Charlie Kirk, 25% say, well, that's the cost of what he did. I mean, it's almost impossible to even respond to. I mean, it's really amazing. If you look at Dinkins to Giuliani, I mean, it was one good leader in a city completely turned around and did so instantly. If you look at my father in Washington, D.C., it took him three weeks to change the direction of a city where you went from, you know, 12 to 15 murders on a long weekend. to having zero, right? I mean, think about, I'm a father. I've got two of the most beautiful kids. Think about the amount of, moms and dads who have their children alive and breathing, and they don't even know that their lives were spared just by having law and order. You know, and then you look at J.B. Pritzker in, in obviously, you know, Illinois, and he doesn't give two dams. He doesn't care about the violence. He doesn't care about solving these problems. You know what the difference is? You know, the Chicago police, I know all of them, and they're incredible people. I've got a big building there. I spent a lot of time building in Chicago. And guess what? When you turn on your cops and you prosecute them every single day and you go after them civilly and you handcuff them and you demonize them. Guess what? They're going to lose the motivation to do their job. They've done the exact same thing with the NYPD, one of the greatest police forces anywhere on earth. You let the NYPD arrest the bad guys. You take the handcuffs off of them. You stop the games. You stop the, you know, the nonsense. The NYPD will have that city perfect, zero crime, beautiful overnight. You know why? Because they're not allowed to touch anybody and they're not allowed to arrest anybody. And if they do, you know, they've lost any kind of immunity that they had as law enforcement agents. And this is the problem. Like with proper leadership, you could clean up these cities instantaneously, you know, and, but, but the problem is there is no leadership in these cities, nor is there any desire. You know, and it's heartbreaking. I mean, last for not least, though, I don't mean to be long-winded about this. You're the most beautiful world the other day in Charlotte, get her neck cut by a sociopath. Oh, I have had no luck lately. Wait, lady luck? Brett Ski, I got you. I've had so much luck on SpinQuest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a $30 coin pack for just $10 bucks. $10 for 30. I'm headed over to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spendquest.com for more details.

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that are broken, that feel as if the freedom of speech assembly means nothing, that they've won again. What message would the Trump family give to Americans that are just broken? Well, I think, first of all, We're on the winning side of this argument, and we proved then the last election, and we proved it decisively. And I think that's why evil is lashing out now. You know, they lost the debate. And so they're resorting to violence because they lost the narrative. They know they did. They have no platform. They have, you know, I mean, in every category that they lost, in every demographic, they lost. We live in the greatest nation on Earth. That nation is on a better trajectory right now than ever before. You know, and when we can't let evil reign. I mean, we can't. We've got the best company, best country. We've got the best society. We've got the best rule of law anywhere in the world. As challenged as it often feels, and believe me, over the last 10 years, you know, as I wrote this book, it certainly felt challenged. But we have the greatest nation on earth and we finally have good leadership. We're going to make sure this kind of crap doesn't happen again. And, you know, my blessings go out to Charlie. He was a dear friend of mine, like a dear, dear friend of mine. My blessings go out to Erica and especially those kids that video that you're referencing right now at Fox News where the daughter runs up and jumps on his lap on the curvy couch. It's beyond heartbreaking. It's beyond heartbreaking. As a guy who sat on that stage with Charlie 200 times and as a guy who's. sat on that very stage by myself thousands of times over the last, you know, 12 years. It's mortifying. It's heartbreaking. And, uh, you know. Eric Trump, thank you. The book is under siege. Available for order. I say, do it for Charlie. Do it for Charlie. Do it for Charlie. Eric Trump, thank you very much. Thanks, Bill. God bless you. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, live with you every Sunday night. Billy Cunningham, you can sense from the comments of Eric Trump that the Trump family was extremely close to Charlie. And let's face it, I don't think there were too many persons in the world more responsible for the election of Donald Trump, not just in 2016, but especially, especially in 2024. Without Charlie Kirk, Kamala Harris might be the president. Think about that one for a while. Let's continue with more. Coming up next is Dr. John Brady. Go Cunningham with you every Sunday night. We continue to read the reports of the background of this cold blood murderer. I'm very reluctant to use his name to give him no pub whatsoever. Thank God he was arrested, and I pray to God an Epstein situation does not take place where this murder is going to have to face justice at some point. Joining you and I now is Dr. John Brady. He's an expert when it comes to mass murder or respected culture analyst and commentator.

He studied the psychology and radicalization and the ways persons latch on to a high-profile act of violence and a dangerous copycat dynamic. And this is relatable, of course, to the murder of Charlie Kirk. And once again, Dr. John Brady, headquartered in California, welcome to the Bill Cunningham show. So first of all, just in general, give us a background of this murder and how it relates to like Mangione and others. is that you have to look at. First of all, you have to look at the symbolic value of a case like this, and then you have to look at the expressive part of a case. The symbolic value is based on, as you know, as an attorney on mens rea, on a guilty mind you have to prove. The expressive part is the actual actus ray or actually the taking of a life. So as we go back retrospectively to look at this defendant, We have to try and piece together. Whatever information is available. There's a lot of wild stuff out on the Internet. What I try to do in the post-analysis of my cases like Sirhan, Sirhan, like murdered Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. with the unibomber, with other cases. I try and fit together in kind of an etch-a-sketch pad to fit together the pieces that we have in order to form a composite picture of this murderer. What, as far as the dynamic, he appears to come from a good family. It appears his father was in law enforcement. The neighbors who have given interviews saying this murderer lived a good life, he was a good kid. And so what was the process of radicalization? Also a gamer. He had Antifa elements. What was the radicalization process that we have to look for? Okay, so let's look at the symbolic part of the crime, the evidence that he left behind. Supposing we don't have that much evidence, but as you tease it out, and when you look at it, there's a lot of psychological evidence concerning what he left behind. For example, the markings on the shell casings, those are very suggestive of his intent at the time, his motive. at the time his identification with a group that's perhaps much larger than he is, such as Antifa or another politically oriented group. My experience has been when you look at people like Sirhan, Sirhan, they leave a clear track of information and evidence that you're able to retrospectively piece back together and say this is the motive that this particular person had in order to commit this crime.

With this perpetrator, the possibility is very similar to Luigi Mangione, 24-year-old that killed the CEO of United Healthcare in New York City on December 4th of last year. Very similar profile. You mentioned good family. You mentioned intelligent. All those features fit into this present defendant. He was intelligent, just like Mangione. He had very high scores. He had a scholarship, but that doesn't preclude. Intelligence bill doesn't preclude an offender from becoming radicalized or becoming self, kind of self radicalized into this alternative world where they become the ultimate arbiter. They become the martyr. They become the person set up as the one who's going to tell society how to run society. who should live and who should die. And one of the markings and one of the casings was, hey, fascist, catch. And so when I hear the media the last several days tell, well, what's the motive? Yeah. Isn't that the motive? That he listened to YouTube and TikTok and believe Charlie Kirk was a fascist? He said, hey, fascist, catch the bullet. Isn't that an indication of his motive? Yeah, I think it's, you know, you're an attorney, you've had clients where you have to speak to motive. I think it's more complicated than that. It's not just that simple. It's a complete ideology that these young people have, Bill. I call it ideology tourism, that these people, they're existentially lonely, they're cut off, they get involved into video games as he was reported to have been. With these violent, awful games, some of the symbolic markings on the shell casings came from one video game that's a very violent expression of killing. So I think there's a, as you go into it further, it's more than just, I don't like this right-wing firebrand.

who is, who's an influencer. I think it's much deeper than that. And I think it goes into his identification with a lot of, of possible movements such as, as effective altruism. I'm sure you've heard that term, but effective altruism is running around the country like, like COVID was. It's an expression of the, that these people adhere to where they, they set themselves up as being, altruistic and only their values are the ones that should be represented in society. It's kind of a Machiavellian situation. where Mangione certainly had this effective altruism, where they can express themselves, and they know the best way to treat people in society, irrespective of what the moral codes and the laws are that govern the country. Dr. John Brady has now come out that his roommate was transgender, and the FBI said a day or two ago that this transgender roommate has been very cooperative. And I've given all the messages by and between the two of them, back and forth between the transgender roommate and also the murderer. And he waited, Charlie Kirk had about, he was killed about 10, 11 minutes into it. And he was answering question about transgenderism when he was shot. Was that? Was that the serendipitous moment for the murderer? Because there was a big loud speaker system, and it's relatable that on that roof that the murderer could hear what was being said. So did he wait for the transgender question to kill Charlie Kirk? I think, I mean, that's a good point, though. I think there's other triggers that set this guy off into this murderous path. I think the thought of the transgender, the notion that he even wrote about being gay, he wrote about, you know, catch this, he wrote about fascism, he wrote about things that were symbolically. self-destructive and destructive of others. So I think the gay thing may figure into this defendant's background, but I think it's a larger ideology based on movements like Antifa, the markings with the Italian Bella Bella Chow, Bella is very significant. based on the fact that this goes back to the Second World War in Italy, where there was the anti-fascist movement. And this is a symbolic statement made by the anti-fascist that spread throughout Europe, Germany, Austria, et cetera, adopted by United States groups such as Antifa that are the anti-fascists. But actually, it's really...

gaslighting because they're doing the exact things that they accuse other people of doing. Often happens with the liberals. As far, they accuse the other side of engaging in their behavior. Dr. John Brady, you have a statement about this. You're a forensic psychologist and you've studied this. Yes. Is there anything about the murderer's symbolic choices? that could prevent future assassinations fueled by political hatred that I've seen online so much. I can't watch them anymore. The liberals have to, I can't watch it. But is anything we can learn about preventing future assassinations fueled by political hatred and political lies and falsehoods that are in concrete, no matter what the facts are? The murderer didn't want to hear the facts about the family, the Christian, the beliefs of Charlie Kirk. He wanted him dead. Anything we can learn from this to stop future assassinations? Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with Iheart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make IHeart Media a part of your 2026 plan today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. Again, that's 844-Ehart. Dad, Disney activities are on Lingo Kids. What? Moana and Elsa and Marvel Spider-Man. All of them. On lingo kids? Yes, Dad, on lingo kids. That's pretty cool. I know. You just lost them for the rest of the afternoon. Worth it. Full of fun activities inspired by Disney's Moana, Frozen, Zootopia, Marvel Spider-Man, and more. Lingo Kids is where little ones discover more about favorite characters. Lingo Kids! Everything kids love. Download it for free. Looking for excitement Chumba Casino is here. Play anytime, play anywhere. Play on the train. Play at the store. Play at home. Play when you're bored. Play today for your chance to win. And get daily bonuses when you log in. So what are you waiting for? Don't delay. Chumba Casino is free to play. Experience social gameplay like never before. Go to Chumba Casino right now to play hundreds of games, including online slots, bingo, slingo, and more. Live the Chumba Life at Chumbacasino.com.

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of this guy's mental state. What I'm trying to do with you, I'm trying to recreate his mental... instability that led him to this particular juncture in his life. His life is pretty effectively now over. I understand that. But I also want to understand why he did it, and maybe that can lead us forward to preventing other people. Like I said, the institutions of the United States are being challenged like never before. All institutions are being challenged, whether the school, the church, particularly the family. The left is diabolically set up to destroy the unity of this country, which is a, and subverted into a, into a socialist. country as witnessed by Zohran Mamdani in New York City. What we can do is we can counter that information that comes out from the babbling media, the babbling left-wing media that don't have any facts. They're not psychologists. They're not an attorney like you are. They can't put this stuff into perspective. They're filled with hate, and we need to present a balanced story of how we can prevent people like this defendant. from being a hero or an anti-hero to other people, just like Mangione's hero, was Ted Kaczynski. Can you imagine having Ted Kaczynski as your hero? Okay, and both these guys are high IQ, super intelligent people. The defendant had very high ACT scores. You and I took those 45 years ago to get into college and law school. Very high ACT scores, got a scholarship, what was in a perfect neighborhood raised by Mormon parents who were Republican. So it just shows you the power of these movements like effective altruism. In my book coming out, which is called Breakdown, I have a whole section which is called The Power of the Power of the ideology tourism can be stronger than a drug. Oh. I tell you what, Dr. John Brady, when that's out, let me know. We'll get you back on, but I fear we're in a terrible time. I want to get you a couple signed copies because I really appreciate, you know, you getting out the word, spreading the word that we've got to stop this kind of stuff. One way to stop it is to be able to analyze these people to figure out what made them commit these particular heinous crimes against such a great American hero.

like Charlie Kirk. Got to run, Dr. John Brady, book coming out, Breakdown, and I just fear we're in a good time. And Charlie Kirk believed in three main principles. God, family, and America. And that, the radical left, they're godless. They're not in, shall we say, family structure of any type. And they don't believe in this country. In fact, they want to leave the country and destroy it. When you want to destroy a place, you don't believe in it. Dr. John Brady, up against the clock, we've got to go. But once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham show, headquartered in California. Yes. Thank you so much, Bill. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Your comments, of course. And after the top of the next hour, we're going to replay for you the words of Erika Kirk that she expressed Friday night, which is a rallying cry for God, family, and America. The dreamer may have been murdered, but the dream must live. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. I'm Billy Cunningham, the Great American. I guess it is good academically to study the minds of these political assassins that are mainly different than other mass killings of one type or another. When the school kids were killed in the upper Midwest in Minnesota, Minneapolis in that particular school, and those kids were killed because they were Catholic and they were sitting in a mass. That's why they were killed. There wasn't much politics involved in that. It says killers, mass killers. And so there is some common thread that goes in between and out of those political assassinations. Now, let's face it, to have terrible, awful, awful consequences and result in changing the body politic. I could not imagine what would have happened in Butler County, Pennsylvania, for example. If Donald Trump had been murdered like Charlie Kirk, what the world would look like today with Kamala Harris as the president. And let's face it, Tim Walz is the vice president. Are you kidding me? That's how close we've come. Hanging out at the pool is great. Relaxing and playing Vegas-style games on my phone at the same time. Drink in one hand and a blackjack in the other. It's all at SpinQuest. Over a thousand games including your favorite slots and table games. Be cool with this summer special. New players get $30 coin packs for 10 at SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real?

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My husband loved you. And he knew that you loved him too. He did. Your friendship was amazing. You supported him so well, as did he for you. Two days ago, my husband, Charlie went to see the face of his Savior and his God. Charlie always said that when he was gone, he wanted to be remembered for his courage and for his faith. And one of the final conversations that he had on this earth, my husband witnessed for his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Now and for all eternity, he will stand at his Savior's side. wearing the glorious crown of a martyr. Charlie loved, loved life. He loved his life. He loved America. He loved nature, which helped him always bring him closer to God. He loved the Chicago Cubs. And my goodness, did he love the Oregon Ducks? He'd want me to say go ducks, so I have to since they play on Saturday. So go ducks. But most of all, Charlie loved his children. And he loved me with all of his heart. And I knew that. Every day I knew that. He made sure I knew that every day. Every day he would ask me, how can I serve you better? How can I be a better husband? How can I be a better father? Every day. Every day. He's such a good man. He still is a good man. He was the perfect father. He was the perfect husband. Charlie always believed that God's design for marriage and the family was absolutely amazing. And it is. It is. And it was the greatest joy of his life. And over and over, he would tell all these young people to come and find their future spouse, become wives and husbands and parents. And the reason why is because he wanted you all to experience what he had and still has. He wanted everyone to bring heaven into this earth through love and joy that comes from raising a family. It's beautiful. Charlie always said that if he ever ran for office, I know a lot of you asked if he ever was going to, but privately he told me, if he ever did run for office, that his top priority would be to revive the American family. That was his priority. One of Charlie's favorite Bible verses was Ephesians 5, verse 25. Husbands. Love your wives. As Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, my husband laid down his life for me, for our nation, for our children. He showed the ultimate and true covenantal love. I will never ever.

have the words to describe the loss that I feel in my heart. I honestly have no idea what any of this means. I know that God does, but I don't. But Charlie, baby, I know you do too. I know you do. So does our Lord. And our world is filled with evil. But our God... is so good so incredibly good and we know that for those who love God all things work together for good for those who are called according to his purpose already I have seen the worldwide outpouring of love for my husband I've heard the testimonies from people my husband inspired to get married, to start families, to seek out a relationship with God. It's the most important, most important one of all. The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love. They should all know this. If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country. In this world, you have no idea. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry. Forget whatever plans you have this weekend because you're staying at home and playing on SpinQuest. And there's never been a better time to sign up than right now. New users get $30 coin packs for just $10. All the table games you love with hundreds of slot games and real cash prizes. That's at SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Voidware prohibited. Visit spenquest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with IHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make IHeart media a part of your 2026 plan today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. Again, that's 844-E-Hart. Dad, Disney activities are on...

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So I want to tell you that we'll never surrender. We never will. Ever. Ever. Our campus tour this fall will continue. There will be even more tours in the years to come. America Fest here in Phoenix. This December will go on. It will be greater than ever. The radio and podcast show that he was so proud of will go on. And in a world filled with chaos, doubt, and uncertainty, my husband's voice will remain. And it will ring out louder and more clearly than ever. And his wisdom will endure. My favorite, my favorite too, but my husband's favorite word in the English language was earn. He would call all of you to be people of action who earn the future America deserves. So to all of the young people who felt inspired by my husband's faith in hard work, all of you already know what Charlie would want you to do. You know. You know. If you're in high school or if you're in college, go find your local Turning Point USA chapter. Join it. Stay involved. He wants you to make a difference. And you can. You can. The movement's not going anywhere. And it will only grow stronger when you join it. If there isn't a chapter, you can't find one, then start one. There is no excuse. You can start one. And as my husband used to say in this room, every single day, if you want to get involved, the best way you can do that is going to tpUSA.com. That's what he would say every day from this chair. Every single day, I watch to show every day, and he would always say, if you want to get involved, go to tpUSA.com. If you're a pastor, join our movement at TPUSA Faith. And if you're a parent, I highly recommend that you come to America Fest in December. Sign up right now for that because we would love to see you. I would love to see you. Charlie would. He'll be there. He'll be there in spirit. Bring your kids. Bring your family. But most important of all, if you aren't a member of a church, I beg you to join one. A Bible believing church. Our battle is not simply a political one above all. It is spiritual. It is spiritual. The spiritual warfare is palpable. Charlie loved his savior with all of his heart, and he wanted every one of you to know him too. He wanted everyone to know that if they confess, If they confess the Lord Jesus Christ who rose from the dead, then they will be saved. Hear me when I say this, nobody is ever too young to know the gospel. Nobody. Nobody is ever too young to get involved with saving this beautiful country. This country my husband loved and still loves. And nobody is ever too old either.

There's no age limit. I know my husband is still here. He's watching over us. I don't remember the last time I slept. I couldn't sleep last night. And Charlie, baby. Charlie, I promise. I will never let your legacy die, baby. I won't. I promise I'll make Turning Point USA the biggest thing that this nation has ever seen. I promise. Charlie, I love you. I love you, baby. Rest in the arms of our Lord as he blankets you with the words I know your heart always strived to hear. Well done, my good and faithful servant. When I got home last night, Gigi, our daughter just ran into my arms. And I talked to her and she said, Mommy, I missed you. I said, I miss you too, baby. She goes, where's daddy? What do you tell three?

I said, baby, Daddy loves you so much. Don't you worry, he's on a work trip with Jesus so he can afford your blueberry budget. And my goodness, am I so humbled to witness Charlie, you alongside Jesus right now, doing what you always want to do, baby, making heaven crowded, right? That's what it's all about. making heaven crowded. I can't wait to see you again one day. Thank you all again who loved my husband, who supported him, who wrote him an email every single day during his radio show. He read all of them. All of them. God bless you all. And may God bless America. Once again, Erika Kirk, thanks for those words. Once again, I need Kleenex. It's incredible what your husband sacrificed for us. And I pray, I know his sacrifice will not be in vain. And that Turning Point USA will continue bigger and better than ever. I know the talk radio host community is with you 1,000%. Bill Cunningham with you. And all of the American people, every, every, every Sunday night. By Billy Cunningham and we continue, and never stop, we simply continue, the idea that a teenage boy who had no, shall we say, formal college education, the college scam could accomplish what, What Erica's husband accomplished Charlie is really a testament to God, to Jesus Christ, and so many others. I wanted to thank her again for the comments that she had, and I'm going to vow to God Almighty. I'm going to work with Turning Point USA in the future to make sure that the legacy of Charlie Kirk continues well into the future. I know that Erica and his two kids are going to be well supported, most importantly, spiritually and emotionally. Let's continue with more. Coming up next is Terry Donovan. She stepped forward in Charlotte to be the Republican nominee against the incompetent Democratic mayor. She's been there for about eight years. She's up next. Also about Charlie Kirk. Go Cunningham with you every Sunday.

Billy Cunningham to Great American, of course, every American city is hurting. I've often said to many in difficult circumstances, can America be a great nation if 49 of the top 50 American cities are in near collapse? And what's happening in Charlotte and what happened to that brave immigrant, the refugee from Ukraine, is similar to what's happening in every major American city. If you're listening tonight in Chicago, if you're listening in New York City or Spokane, if you're listening in Cincinnati, the same stuff's going on everywhere. And Charlotte, North Carolina was in the national media recently because of the vicious murder of Arena Zoreska, 23 years old, a refugee from Ukraine. A little bit of a background. Now, about three or four years ago, the President Joe Biden said, if you're a Ukrainian and you would like some refugee status, we'll move you to the top of the list. So arena and a couple of family members came and said, yes, we'll do it. Came here with nothing. And they were just settled in Charlotte, North Carolina. She was working in a great pizza parlor. She was working. There's an odd concept. When she happened to sit in front of DeCarles Brown, 34 years old, mentally ill, who slid her throat and killed her. And suddenly we get the history of DeCarles Brown. And sadly, the mayor of Charlotte, who got 71% of the primary last Tuesday in a field race. And she's been in office since 2017. Her name is Mayor Vi Lyles. And seemingly, unless someone stops her, she's going to win again, stops her at the ballot box. She's going to win again and be the mayor of Charlotte. Joining you and I now is Terry Donovan. She's the Republican nominee. I stood up and said, choose me. I'll try this against Mayor Vileleis. But Terry Donovan, welcome, I think, for the first time to the Bill Cunningham show. And Terry, first of all, tell the American people what is the status of Charlotte, North Carolina, compared to what it was 30 or 40 years ago. Uh, it's, it's horrific. It is, you, I mean, we can't even, we have four violent crimes per day, violent crimes. We have, uh, in the first, uh, last year, we had approximately, um, 18,000 larcenies and thefts. We have a huge, huge issue with teenage crime. So a lot of times when, you know, we're asleep at night, people don't realize they're actually teenagers roaming through the streets, stealing packages, breaking into homes, stealing cars. You know, I live in a very nice neighborhood, and it's happening even in the neighborhood that I live in. I also happen to serve on my board, my community board.

One of the things that really woke me up is saying, ah, you know, this, nobody's lying about this crime thing. I mean, this is a real, real issue. You know, you'll hear people say, oh, they're just exaggerating this or they're exaggerating that. No, no, no. I mean, I have video footage from, you know, incidents that have happened in my own community. And it's just a matter of people waking up, you know, because this could have been their daughter. This could have been my niece. This could have been your child that this happened to. It's completely unacceptable. It never should have happened. And De Carlos Brown never should have been walking around on our streets after being arrested 14 times. Well, Terry, if you would have just happened to be on that commuter train and sat down that evening in front of De Carlos Brown. this interview would not be taken place. Whoever just happened to sit there would have their throat sliced by this career criminal. Describe a little bit about his history. We have to talk about Charlie Kirk here, but describe a little bit about his history and the failure of this city administration to deal with it. Well, that's the biggest issue that we are trying to point out is that this just never should have happened. I mean, this man had been arrested for violent crimes. 14 times he was just arrested less than a year ago for assaulting his own sister. You know, and I understand that his mother has been trying to get him help. And, you know, she's saying that she couldn't. And, you know, God bless her. I do feel for this mother because I understand we have a mental health issue in this country as well. We do. And I guess that. I mean, myself, I know people who there's just, there's not a lot of options for them. But the answer is not to let them roam around on our streets. We absolutely can't. We cannot do this. How many more of them are there? Probably hundreds just in our city. Well, Los Angeles has about something in the range of 80,000 homeless. Los Angeles also has about 200,000 gang members. Charlotte, which is a beautiful city, is destroyed. Cincinnati, where I live, was beautiful city. It's been destroyed by gang violence and by roving gangs looking for people to, first of all, steal from, and then maybe beat up or kill just for the hell of it. The public school system in Cincinnati cannot be attended. Have terrible great. Does Charlotte do a great job educating its public school students?

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When the mayor did finally come out and make a statement, she called the media her media partners. And you know, that's exactly what it is. Media partners for this leadership. And so, you know, it's a huge, huge conflict of interest. Nobody's reporting the real deal about what's going on anymore in our communities. And, you know, the people, whoever is making these decisions, which I really don't know who that is, but this cannot continue because it's going to impact them eventually. It's going to be their son, their daughter that this happens to. We have got to change the way. that media is being handled in this country, not only, you know, TV, but I'm talking social media as well. Well. We've got to make changes, and we need to do it fast. I hope. All I have is hope when I look electorally, Vi Lyles, received 71% of the primary vote on Tuesday in the Democratic primary. The last time she ran, she got 77% of the vote. She calls the partners in the media. They work with her. They don't objectively report facts. As far as crime in Charlotte, I see right now that the President Mason soldiers troops into Memphis, and the Memphis mayor, who's a complete putts. Cines down. I see Brandon Johnson crimes down. Cincinnati, FTA Bureau of all crimes down. New York City, crime is down. Los Angeles, crime is down? Is crime down? They are lying. They're lying. They're lying. Somebody please hear us. They are lying. Yeah. Let's talk a minute about Charlie Kirk and what that reveals about the progressive left in America. I was on the air Wednesday afternoon about 2.45 when there was a flash at Fox News that he had been shot. And then within about a half an hour, it was obvious he could not survive. and Charlie Kirk gave us life for the cause. And so you said something to me off the air, which is going to stick with me for a while when I first introduced myself to you and you to me. And I said, why are you doing this? Terry Donovan, you have a good life. You're running as a Republican in a 75% Democratic city. and Charlie Kirk, when he was 18 years old, said, and, you know, I want to change the world. And didn't go to college, and he said, I want to convince college kids in liberal towns in the ACC where you are, Charlotte. Now, I want to convince liberals in Arizona and Utah kids, get them when they're young, that you can't believe what you're being told on YouTube and TikTok.

And why is Terry Donovan running as a Republican in a thoroughly Democratic city? You almost to me look like a Charlie Kirk who's tilting at windmills wanting to change things. But Charlie Kirk's life end, and I'm sure yours were not for a long time. But why are you stepping forward making this tough race for November? Well. Just so you know, the date that I signed up to run for mayor was July 18th. That was actually the deadline to file. And we actually did have another candidate who was slated to run. And he actually pulled out. And he pulled out at the very last minute. And honestly, it really left everybody in a shuffle and in a very bad position. So I signed up. I stepped up. This was definitely not on my radar. This was not on my agenda. But I cannot. live in this city and feel good about it and see my neighbors and just know that we're being lied to about the crime stats and I can't just sit back and do nothing. And I'm also, you know, I'm trying to run on just one thing. Common sense. You know, I think we've also got to stop being so divisive. We've got to stop saying, you know, Republican, Democrat this, red, blue, that. We need to talk about unity. We've got to unite. We've got to start talking about common sense solutions and just lifting everybody up. I mean, this tragedy with Charlie Kirk, I'll be honest with you. My nephew is here with me right now, and he just graduated from Liberty University. Good. And he and my niece also graduated from there. And, you know, they both grew up, you know, listening to him, and I have had been following him, you know, on Instagram for a while. And, I mean, yeah, a great guy, great guy. I mean, it's just such a... You can't put it into words. Honestly, it really just, it's all happened so fast. It was Irania, the incident with Irania on August 22nd and then Charlie Kirk on September 10th. And now here we are. And honestly, I think that a lot of people right now are just feeling. None. Stunned. And we just, so, so to answer your question, when I signed up to do this, these incidents had not even occurred. Now, after these incidents occurred, the intensity of my, you know, campaign and my focus on my campaign has essentially skyrocketed because I, uh, I'm absolutely getting, you know, pulled in a lot of different directions right now for media and so forth. Yeah. So I'm just going to, you know, take this day by day and pray. And I know my nephew is here with me and he has been praying with me daily. And.

You know, I just really hope that people will wake up and understand that the path that we're on, again, it could have been them that this happened to. It could have been their child that this happened to. This is just no longer about, oh, I'm just going to vote for a Democrat or a Republican. It's about we've got to vote for change. You know, Terry Donovan and Charlotte, North Carolina, whether it's the housing issue, the Democrats always run about reducing housing. And New York City, the Zohran Mamdani, the Kami, talks about rent freezes, which means expenses will rise markedly by having less supply. You're going to have a greater demand, which means the rents are going to rise in all other areas, whether it's the housing costs, the crime, the public schools, the livability issue. Every major American city is going through, which Charlotte's gone through. If we had a so-called legitimate media that actually did independent reporting and what's happening on major American cities, in Cincinnati, we're going to have 2,000 cars stolen this year. We're going to have something in the range of 20,000 car break-ins. And I'm thinking our little city here has 300,000 people, one of the most violent places in America. And the mayor refuses to accept the offer of the governor. It's going to be down to two days a month. He can have the National Guard. I'm sorry, two days a month have the Highway Patrol come to Cincinnati. They don't want to look bad. And so in Lyle's case, the incompetent mayor, she's going to run a campaign. I'm okay. You're okay. I'm a Democrat. She's a Republican. She's never run anything before. And therefore stick with the status quo of high crime, terrible public schools, high price and housing, no accountability, infrastructure is melting, and she'll likely be reelected in the minds of some. And I pray to God that Terry Donovan, you can overcome this. As I open other major American cities, we can't live like this. kind of jolting from crisis to crisis, waiting for the next people, next person to be killed, raped Rob, we have their car broken into, then being told that it's not rain you feel, it's something different. We can't live like this anymore. And Terry Donovan, can we be a great nation if every major American city is in collapse? No, we cannot. No, we absolutely cannot. We just, we've got to turn, we've got to turn the course here. We've got to start holding people accountable. We've got to start thinking of new creative ideas. We've got to start bringing the right people to the table, having round tables collaborating together. We've got to work together to solve this crime problem. It's going to have to start when people are younger. And we're going to have to just work together to make change. And it's not going to happen under the current leadership. I just hope that people realize that.

Cannot happen. I do want to say, you know, I feel a special force pushing me along. And I lost my mother a year ago. She was very concerned about the state of our world. And I promise you, I feel her pushing me. Terry Donovan, Mike, like many others, the task in front of you is almost impossible, but it was also impossible for Charlie Kirk 13 years ago to form T.P. USA to have 5 million followers and change the world. And Charlie Kirk helped change the world, and I think you can help change Charlotte. Terry Donovan, good luck against divide Liles, who's been in office now for eight years, promising everything, delivering nothing. And Terry Donovan, you're a great American. Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham show. Thank you, Terry. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you. God bless you. Let's continue with more. It's going to be damn near impossible. But it was impossible for Charlie Kirk 13 years ago to do what he did. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. I'm Billy Cunningham, the Great American. I want to thank everyone for coming on on this memorization and the impact of Charlie Kirk. in America and there were marches and reverence to Charlie Kirk in Europe, some of which were permitted, some were not. But nonetheless, Charlie Kirk is dead. And as Erika Kirk said, we played her remarks several minutes ago about what the mission is now going forward. And it can't be, it cannot be that the messenger has been killed, therefore the message must die. And I'm going to be more involved with Turning Point USA than I've ever been. I know many of my talk of brothers and sisters across all the platforms have committed to that, and I pray that is the case. It's also reported that JD Vance, Vice President, would have disagreements of one type or another with Charlie Kirk about religion. As you know, JD Vance is a converted Roman Catholic, and Charlie Kirk was a Protestant of great note, but they argued about it. And with your permission, I will ask that you bow your head and memory of Charlie Kirk and say the following with me. Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this daily bread and forgive us our trespasses. As we forgive those who trespass against us, forgive those who trespass against you, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory, forever and ever, amen. Charlie Kirk, rest in peace. And we Catholics would say, Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for our sinners. Now, at the hour of our death, amen. Charlie Kirk, rest in peace. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night.

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