Karmelo Anthony Found GUILTY

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Thankfully, no one asked you, both brothers, his twin brother, Hunter, and Austin should be dead. And this was outside the courthouse, the pro-Carmello ranks. Carmelo! Carmello! Crying once the verdict was relayed to the throngs of pro-Camello rally goers outside the courthouse. One woman exclaiming, she doesn't know what to say to her five boys now. What do you want us to do? What do you want us to do at this point? What? I'm lost for it. I don't know what to do. I got five boys. I don't know. I ain't got nothing to tell them no more. You can't walk away no more. Rest in peace, Trayvon Martin. Way to throw in the Trayvon Martin. Yeah, so this will join the pantheon of alleged victims of a system systemically racist judicial system, criminal justice system, right, to Trayvon Martin, who also didn't walk away. And... Michael Brown, who also didn't walk away to say the least, tried to kill a police officer. But these stories all become part of the mythology that's used to support the claim that the justice system is systemically racist. What do you do? What do you do now? What do you tell your five boys? I don't know. Don't kill a... Don't kill anyone. Don't kill, whether it's a fellow competitor and attract me. Don't kill anyone in cold blood. Is that so difficult to say? 312-642-2-5600. Alphawealthgroup.com call and text line. Dominique Alexander, we reminded you who he was yesterday, some self-appointed.

spokesman for the black community in Collin County, Texas. NextGen is the Sharpton-esque group, my sense of it, that he stood up. The spokesman for the family in the wake of the murder last spring. This happened in April of last year. And he's only ramping up the hustle. Of course he is. Nobody said that the Next Generation Action Network instructed this process, interfered in this process. But what this process did is showing that black lives do not matter in Collin County. It showed us that time and time in American history, it has shown us to remove emotions from yet the law. This trial showed that it put emotions over the law. After Trayvon Martin and so many countless names, it has shown us that black life is not safe in Collin County. It showed us that they did not listen to the law. It showed clearly that a judge interfered in this process. It showed very clearly that a black boy was allowed not one black soul on a jury. In all, all white jury convicted him in two to three hours. We know that they did not prove their case. They are currently sentencing Carmelo Anthony. But we know that the next generation action network put the first $10,000 towards an appellate attorney. And we will fight Colin County like hell. I respected this process. I allowed and called for peace in this process. That's the mistake we always make. But the last America should be very upset about what went on today. We are 312-642-5600. AlphaWealthgroup.com. Call and text line. Yeah, it should be very upset. Justice was not served. Well, arguably, justice wasn't served in the fact he only got 35 years, of which he'll only have to serve 18 if he minds his manners, was facing effectively life or very close to it in prison, which for a... premeditated act like that? I mean, it arguably premeditated, but for a cold-blooded killing like that. Black lives don't matter in Collin County. Justice was not served. They didn't prove their case. Oh, my goodness. The defense helped prove the prosecution's case. This was such a not close call. If there were any emotions involved here, it was emotions on the jury going easy in handing down a 35-year sentence. You had a defense attorney in this case suggest to the jury that it was possible that Austin Metcalf fell on Kamrell Anthony's knife, to which the jury gasped in disbelief that something so ridiculous would be suggested.

reaching slightly? Yeah, I know. I mean, the 600 grand that the Carmelo Anthony family got, that one to, apparently to rent a house in a gated community in Frisco and a couple of new cars, didn't have much left over for top shelf legal representation. So if I was Dominique Alexander, that $10,000, he's supposedly devoting to an appellate attorney. I may pay that attorney directly, you know what I mean? You know what I mean, pal? Yeah, I think you do. One of the defense witnesses, the defense witnesses essentially flipped and said, yeah, Carmelo Anthony was in the wrong. All these suggestions that have been made that he was pushed, he was beaten down by Austin Metcalf. Austin and Hunter Metcalf surrounded him. First of all, There's no evidence to support that. Secondly, even to the extent it's true, somebody pushes you, you don't get to stab them in the chest. What kind of society do these people want to live in? Blinded by the identitarianism. That's what you saw on display yesterday. And, you know, the leftist. sentimental barbarians are just as bad as the black ones that were mainly represented outside that courthouse in Colin County, Texas. It's the same sickness. It knows no racial bounds. It just knows ignorance. And you haven't heard ignorance. I mean, you have not heard ignorance until you've heard from fake eyelashes spice, outgoing Congress human, Jasmine Crockett. who is an attorney. This is astounding. It takes a lot to surprise me, especially if you're Jasmine Crockett. I have a certain level of expectation, but she exceeded it or came in way under those low expectations I have. Here's her discussing the case. If a 300-pound man is beating me, like on top of me and beating me down, I'm not limited to fist. You know, I would argue that even the only time we go into things like people's hands being considered deadly weapons is typically like if they're a professional boxer or that kind of stuff. But I think by the time you start getting to like football player, Good argument. Good freaking argument. We're not talking about, like, the golfers. We're talking about football players, right? Like, this is what they are trained to do, is to inflict, like, serious physical contact. And it's my understanding that the decedent was that. We're not talking about that? Fake hood rat. We not talking about that? Uh, also my cat, wasn't a 300 pounds. And the only legal representation that would have been worse from what I can glean for Carmel O'Anthony than the legal representation he got is if Jasmine Crockett would have represented him. So the mitigating circumstances is that Austin Metcalfe was a football player, not 300 pounds. Also, there was no beat down. Slight point of order?

Where are Carmelo Anthony's injuries from this alleged beatdown in which he was defending himself? That's one. Wait for it. That's not all. The other mitigating circumstance? The size of the knife. Was it a switch? I don't know what he had. It was like a, it seemed like it was a multi-tool, almost like a Swiss army. Yeah, like with the little scissors and everything and whatever. So it was small. Well, I would argue the size of it alone, you wouldn't even think it's a deadly weapon. You may have to be bad. If it was one of the little, like, I don't know. Like, I do think. Well, that's why he went to his coach and was like, but I don't think I heard him that. It was like a Swiss Army knife. He stabbed him with the corkscrew or the magnifying glass. It wasn't a deadly weapon. Well, he's dead. Oh, and by the way, yeah, he went to his coach, says, I don't think I heard him that bad. Hunter, Metcalf, after the murder last year, describing what happened, what he tried to do when he saw that his brother had been stabbed and the severity of the stab wound to the chest. And then I saw him how to fall. I would go over there. Ah, grabbing. Costume. With stuff. Yeah. I understand. The best I can't understand. You can see. You can picture what happened, you know, what was coming out of his chest. Yeah, yeah. Y'all can visualize. I just like, I want to put down my mom right now. But I put my hand, I pushed my hand on there trying to make it sopped. And I grabbed his head and I wasn't in his eyes. I just saw his phone leave and it took my soul to. I'm so sorry. But it wasn't a deadly weapon. It was just a little knife, you know, like the one with the scissors. And that's not the coup de grace. This is Jasmine Crockett's message to the Metcalfe family.

Black women, especially black women who have black male children, live in fear and agony every single day. A fear and agony that I promise you, the Metcalf probably never spend a day living that way. We're going to have to have just some real conversations about race in this country. Right. Carmelo Anthony's mom, because she's a black woman, has never experienced the agony of Megan Metcalfe because she's a black, you know, Carmelo Anthony's mom is a black woman. She's never experienced the agony of Megan Metcalfe, Austin Metcalf's mother, who lost her son to a murder. That's identitarianism. In full, grotesque blossom. Hear about the big stories of the day. Then talk about them right here on Chicago's morning answer. On AM 560. The answer. Hey, business owners, is your business and money in good hands? Does your bank invest in your success? Hi, Mike Gallagher here, letting you know that when you need a relationship bank, signature bank makes commercial banking personal. I love these guys. Not only do they have expansive industry experience, a strong financial track record, but they're also highly capitalized for strategic growth. That's so important. That's why signature bank is my bank. They know what it means to grow a business by designing solutions that are right for you and only. you. These are real people. They're ready to help. So reach out to my friends at Signature Bank. Make the call today. 773-467-5630. Or visit them online at SignatureBank.Bank. Bank. That's SignatureBank. Bank. Your business could be Signature Bank's next success story. Go online. SignatureBank. Bank. Equal Housing Lender, Signature Bank. If you're looking for the latest news, insight into what it means, and the sharpest opinion, there's only one station in Chicago where you can turn, and it's this one. We're AM 560. The answer. Top of the morning, Damproft here, following up on the discussion we were having about the Carmelo Anthony guilty verdict and the reaction. Of course, it's become a national story. I don't know that it's going to roll out national protests like we saw outside the courthouse in Collin County, Texas, because it's such a difficult case to make out. But the identitarians have made out just as difficult cases. Depends on what the reaction is. If there is violence. in and around Collin County or elsewhere in the name of Carmelo-Athi, then they'll find a way to rationalize it because that's what they do. I got an email, stop putting lipstick on the pig by calling an identitarianism. It's flat-out anti-white racism. The identitarianism label is analogous to undocumented alien. No, actually, it isn't. Identitarianism is synonymous with racism.

in addition to other pathologies. It's broader than that. And by the way, as I mentioned, so you may want to take judicial notice of this to people who have that viewpoint. It is also leftist honkies who practice identitarianism. It's the same thing. They would say the same things. They do say the same things as you heard from Dominique, the local race hustler down there. spokesman for the family. Dominique Alexander. It's the same thing you hear from those protesters. Did you not take notice of who supported the Black Lives Matter inspired rioting and looting in the summer of love? Who is always at the ready with a rationalization, with a free pass. I mean, you live in Chicagoland and you haven't noticed the problem of identitarianism among white, particularly rich white leftists. Where do you think the acronym awful and ruffle come from? Honestly.

And we got, you know, Jasmine Crockett, fake eyelashes spice wants to have a, well, we're going to have some real conversations about race. Gosh, is there any more trite phrase than that? Time for a real conversation on race in America. Has a conversation on race ever stopped? What's a real one look like? The one you're having? I mean, a real conversation on race comes to us from people like the dearly departed Bob Woodson. And he was playing the long game because in the short run, we got a real problem. In the long game, I agree with them. You need to extoll models of success. People that achieved when real obstacles were imposed upon them illicitly, wrongly. as compared to people today who can't find success when they are the beneficiary of special privileges. Identitarianism is conferring benefits and costs based on race or broader, broader sexual proclivities, faith tradition. That's what identitarianism is. Immutable characteristics, but it is expanded. Have you noticed? Ashley Allison was formerly of CNN. I think she's at Harvard now, the Institute of Politics, some phony-blowny Institute, like Axelrod's Institute of Political, Skull-Duggery at University of Chicago. She was also a Biden-Harris staffer. This is two years ago. Ashley Allison on CNN talking about the reaction in the black community. Well, as she describes it, because, you know, 40 million black Americans are not monolithic in their thinking. But there is this pernicious segment that was on display outside that Colin County courthouse yesterday. Ashley Allison's description of how. at least some black Americans feel and react to a black person killing white people.

Also, just how black Americans feel about policing. It's not like O.J. Simpson was the leader of the civil rights movement of his error. You know, he wasn't a social justice leader, but he represented something for the black community in that moment in that trial, particularly because there were two white people who had been killed and the history around how black people have been persecuted during slavery. There were just so many layers. Right. Carmel and Anthony murdered Austin Metcalfe because slavery, because Jim Crow. And that's why he should be freed, if not celebrated. You have something else that is this streak in identitarianism, which is just the updated varietal of neo-Marxism or of Marxism. It is neo-Marxism. which I will say again, is violence is a legitimate means to political ends. Planned or unplanned. Not what's happening here. Any different than the celebration of the guy who killed the United Healthcare CEO because health care companies are bad? That wasn't race-based, was it? But is a strain of the same poisonous ideology? Dan in Salem, Wisconsin. Dan, it's just complete irrational behavior. You know, they just want white people to get in the back of the line. You better behave. Watch your words. And white lives just don't matter, Dan. Some do. I mean, yes, will they, you know, with the identitarians come, as the, you know, neo-Marxists do, come for everyone. You know, I won't invoke Martin Niemolar, but you know how that goes. That's how totalitarians operate when anybody becomes inconvenient. But for now, they're convenient. So, I mean, to make this white black is to play right into their hands. You know, I am not in community with a ghastly white leftist any more than I am with Dominique Alexander race hustling outside of that Collin County courthouse. You get what I'm saying? Philosophy. belief system when the right plays the identity game they lose and we should because it's a terrible game to play it's the disintegration of a free society or it will be the cause of it if we succumb to the siren song of playing identitarianism we're playing on their side of the field i won't do it you shouldn't either It's a trap. So knock off this white-black stuff. It's bigger than that. That's part of it, but it's just a symptom of the underlying condition. Let me give you an example, if you don't believe me.

A text from 7-312. It's all power and profit-based. Yeah, well, right. I mean, this is all the means to political power. Right. Yes. That's what totalitarians want. Dominion over everybody else. Political power. You don't get dominion over everybody else if you don't have political power because what accompanies political power? A monopoly of force in society. And that's how you impose your will. This is fairly linear. Southern Poverty Law Center hearings yesterday before the House Judiciary Committee. Alveda King, the niece of Martin Luther King Jr. She and her opening remarks before she got into a back and forth with the same fake outlish of Spiced Jasmine Crockett, which was also good. Elvita King can hold her own. Applying a device used by your uncle, her dream. I reject hatred. I reject white supremacy. I reject any ideology that seeks to elevate one group of people above another. But I also reject the notion that Americans who hold traditional Christian beliefs should be treated as threats or terrorists simply because we disagree with a prevailing political thought. Today, I still have a dream. I dream that one day we will move beyond black power and white power and embrace God's power and human dignity. I dream that America's will one day see each other not as enemies but as neighbors. I dream that we will hear each other, see each other, and recognize that every human life has value from the womb to the tomb and beyond. We are, as scripture teaches, as science testified, one blood, one human race. And if we remember that truth, we can build a future worthy of the sacrifices made by those who came before us. We must speak out for truth and against the forces that would manufacture hate, fear, division, and violence simply to line their pockets and further their political ambitions. Yeah. I don't believe in black power or white power. I believe in God's power. It's a good start. 312-642-5600. Afwealthgroup.com answer line. The exchange she got into with Jasmine Crockett, it was sort of bifurcated. Jasmine Crockett, recognizing that Elvita King presents a problem. And that offering, you just heard, That's the antidote to identitarianism. So that needs to be attacked. Enter Jasmine Crockett. But the vast majority of them are white men. White men are lecturing people of color because the vast majority actually, any semblance of diversity comes from this side of the aisle. You want to tell people of color who is fighting for who?

People of color do not feel comfortable or welcomes within your party. That's why you have to parade someone who has the name Dr. King attached to them so that people can be confused because I have been reading the comments online and people are like, who is this Dr. King? Because you want them to believe that somehow she espouses. Who Dr. King was, yet you've yet to have MLK, the third, come in here. You've yet to have Dr. Bernice King, the ones that were actually raised by Dr. King, the ones that actually probably understand the teachings of Dr. King. Right. If you cannot attack what your opponent is offering, you attack your opponent. Well, Alveda King, as you would expect, rose above it. Very briefly, Congresswoman, I am a bit emotional. I'm going to watch what I say. But it seems as though you have suggested that I am a bastard to the King family legacy. I am legitimately the daughter of Reverend Alfred Daniel Williams King and Dr. Naomi Ruth Barber King. We are a family who loves God, and I love you. God bless you. God bless Alveda King. Dan Proff, Chicago's morning answer. This is the morning show. More Chicago radio listeners are choosing. This is Chicago's morning answer on AM 560. The answer. Business owners, now's the time for your business to make the move to a locally owned business bank. Hi, Mike Gallagher here to let you know that you don't have to look far. Signature Bank was founded in Chicago with a simple mission to help companies like yours grow, succeed, and thrive. Their decisions are made locally by a terrific team that knows your name, cares about your business, and invests in your success. That's why Signature Bank is my bank. I'm a customer. As business owners, they knew that local family-owned businesses we're not getting the help they needed or deserved. So, I invite you to reach out to my friends at Signature Bank today. Write the number down. Remember this phone number. Signature Bank, 773-467-5630. And learn all about this great bank, 773-467-5630, or visit them online at SignatureBank.Bank. That's SignatureBank.com. Signature Bank makes commercial banking personal. Member FDIC, Equal Housing Lender.

This is Chicago's morning answer with Dan Proft on AM 560. The answer. Top of the morning, Dan Proft here picking up where we left off at the end of the last hour talking about the hearing before the House Judiciary Committee featuring Brian Fair, who is the... interim executive director of the hate group named the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is under federal indictment for being both the arsonist and the firefighter. And Jim Jordan, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, kicked it off in style. by noting how the Biden administration dropped the investigation into the Southern Poverty Law Center that the Trump Department of Justice picked up. Because, of course, they did because they were in partnership with SPLC. SPLC was doing sensitivity, identitarian propaganda training at FBI, Chris Wright. Of course they were. SBLC is very useful tool to brand. all the opponents of the left as hate mongers, white supremacist, hate groups. That's what they did. And they stoked racial hatred where they could to raise money off the racial hatred they were stoking. And invented it out of a whole cloth when they couldn't stoke it.

this scam that they were running. They knew the SPLC was doing this, but they didn't pursue the case. They dropped the case. Because when you meet with them, when you consult with them, when you have them train your prosecutors, you're not going to prosecute them. Nope, you're not going to do it because it's too valuable politically. And here's the scary part. And I'm sure we'll have questions for Mr. Fair later on about this. Here's the scary part. It all worked. Field source 37, the guy at the Charlottesville rally helped plan that rally coordinate transportation there, was paid to attend. After the event, again, after the event where a lady was killed, the Southern Probate Law Center almost tripled their income. 51 million to 133 million after they were coordinated hate that took place that crazy rally. You run a scam, you become the standard, you don't get prosecuted, and you make a ton of money. They got 800 million assets, 700 million in an endowment, such a deal. And they would have gotten away with it, but for the oversight of Congress, more importantly, the work of the Justice Department. So God bless the Attorney General and the work him and his team are doing. And we look forward to hearing from our witnesses today and asking them questions. And with that, I would yield to the ranking. Yeah, tear them apart. I hope the Department of Justice tears them apart, not just because they defrauded their donors. This is the basis of the federal charges. But because they are anathema to a free society in general and American values in particular. Talk about a malign organization. Of course, they are what they were supposedly on the lookout for. It was very interesting one of the exchanges that Jim Jordan had with Brian Fair. Why don't you use informants anymore like you were using them? Chairman Jim Jordan. Okay. We'll be addressed. Do you wish you hadn't had done the program? You said the program was successful, helpful, but now you're stopping it. We stopped the program because we believe hate and extremism has migrated significantly online and into government agencies. Wow, wow, that's, that's, that's, that's, that makes no sense. Yeah, right. It's no longer takes human form. It's all the disembodied personas online, you see. So we don't need to send professional agitators into Charlottesville to organize hate rallies for the purpose of. generating, well, generating, stoking hate that does exist and trying to generate a particular narrative about America so that we can fundraise that. We don't need to do that anymore because all that hate is online. It was also interesting the whole this will all be addressed in the responses to the federal indictment. He also said the same thing to the interim executive director, interim president, whatever his title is, SPLC.

He also said the same thing when Mr. Sardunica said Jerry Nadler was able to lift his head above his beltline and ask him a question about how they collaborated with law enforcement, which was supposed to be a softball. And Brian Farr's response was that will all be addressed in our response to... the Department of Justice. And Natalie was sort of taken it back. Like, you know, I wasn't, that wasn't, basically, he said, like, that wasn't a gotcha question. I was trying to give you an easy one. And he still wouldn't answer it under advice of counsel, clearly. So he had to tiptoe around those sensitive legal matters because the, a very existence of that organization is in peril at present. 312-642-4-2-50-600. AlphaWealthgroup.com text and call in text line. Just a couple of more examples, though. I mean, just in case you thought that they had been chastened at all. Chip Roy asking Mr. Fair about the SPLC's designation of Turning Point USA as a hate group. Would you like to reconsider? No, he wouldn't. With respect to Charlie Kirk, have you all taken any position since Charlie Kirk to... Mr. Roy, we unequivocally condemned the murder of Charlie Kirk. What about the listing of Charlie Kirk? It is our position that T.P. USA... expresses views and vilifies other people based on immutable characteristics, exposing them to our listing. Mr. Chairman, I have a couple of nameless consent requests. Yeah, of course they do. Yeah, of course they take that position. That is our position. Of course it's your position. I mean, more than a federal prosecution, if that wasn't your position, then the money really dries up.

Barry Moore is a congressman from Alabama, Christian conservative. Southern Poverty Law Center has spent years putting labels on other people. It has even used hate watch to target me. As a matter of fact, I think the reason I'm on the list and there's 11 congressmen on this list is because we simply put a flag in front of our office that encourage the people to pray for this nation. It's called the appeal to heaven flag. Somehow I became a hateful person and I was put on a hate watch list simply because I put a flag of that encourage one of the founding flags of this nation to encourage our country to pray for our leaders. And then those leaders are put on a hate list and it's published. Yeah, well, because it's an anti-Christian hate group. Of course. And that was the clear implication, but let me just make it explicit. That's what the Southern Poverty Law Center is. And that's a good illustration of it. John in Portage Park, you know, Chicago's morning answer. Yeah, I will listen to your show and I watch TV with the sound turned off almost every day. And I just, while you're talking about this, I swear to God, the Southern Povery Lawsonner put a commercial on. Of course. Fund raising. Legal Defense Fund. No, it's a Southern Poverry Lawsoner, and I turn the mute off and I listen to it, and they want you to donate to fight hate. Yes. You know, those commercials got to cost money, Dan. I just don't understand how they get it, you know. Well, they have it. Thanks for the call, John. The more interesting question to me from a legal perspective is why hasn't the Department of Justice attempted to freeze spending at SPLC or take it into receivership? If it is a... an organization that is conspiring to defraud, then you would think you would put the clamps on their spend and have to get their spend approved by an independent third party appointed by a court or DOJ, ideally. That would be an interesting question. I probably have to dig a little bit deeper into the dynamics of the case than just the complaint that was. the proffer that was released that was made public that we discussed some of the specific examples of their alleged illegal conduct but that would be that would be my question because of course you know brian fair's appearance before that committee you know all the attendant negative publicity it's chilling some donations particularly for the bigger donors because they don't want to get slimed with what's happening to the SPLC But, yeah, your smaller online, smaller donors online and so forth. Yeah, the money keeps rolling in. I mean, you can be sure they have built up a sizable donor list. that serves as an annuity. You know if you send out a missive or you run ads at a certain threshold that, you know, to your audience or your mailing list or your supporters that I'm sure number in the tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of donors, you know you're going to churn a lot of money. You can churn a lot of money through small dollar donations. That's why.

these organizations do the list building they do. That's why campaigns do it too. Brandon Gill had an exchange with Brian Fair, and this, again, is like Alveda King, goes right to it, drawing the lines of distinction between the identitarians and the non-No-Marxist revolutionaries, like Gil and King. Simple question. Simple question for Mr. Fair. Said that restricting and banning abortion is a tool that the far right uses to maintain white supremacy. Do you believe that pro-lifers are white supremacists? I believe that reproductive liberty is... No, do you believe that pro-lifers are white supremacists? I will tell you what I believe. Is it yes or no? I can't answer that question. Yes or no? I don't think that pro-lifers are white supremacists. Do you? What I think is that reproductive liberty is a right that every woman should enjoy. How many babies in the United States that are aborted are black?

About 40% of abortions nationwide or of black babies. Blacks represent about 13% of the population. Does that sound like something a white supremacist would oppose? What I would say again is that SPLC supports reproductive. Calling somebody a white supremacist is a pretty serious charge, isn't it? I mean, I would think you would be able to defend that if your organization says that. You clearly seem unable to. Mr. Gill, I'm not sure why you would think I'm able to do anything. You're the president of the SPLC, which labels pro-lifers as racists. Well, well... Does your organization just hurl around epithets like that without any justification? Yes, yes, Mr. Gil, that's what we do. He didn't say that, but the implication is clear as you hear him struggling to respond to that question. See, that's the difference. And just in case it was lost on anybody, Brandon Gill turned to Elvita King and asked her the same question. Are pro-lifers white supremacists? Pro-lifers cannot be white supremacist. Pro-lifers believe in life from the womb to the tomb and beyond. Pro-lifers fight for every baby in the womb regardless of skin color. We have been aborted as blacks in America disproportionately. And so the white supremacists are Planned Parenthood, who admitted that they do have racist underpending with an agenda to reduce the black population by abortion. Yeah, just go back and read Margaret Sanger's musings, the founder of Planned Parenthood, of course. But the larger point there, this is all just a black-white thing? If the identitarians are... looking out for black Americans so committed to them. Why do they suborn seeing so many black lives squelched out in the womb? So, yeah, the black Americans that make it, they get conferred benefits. I mean, in the philosophy of the identitarians, they get conferred benefits based on their race and costs are imposed on society. They're not the only ones, but they're one of the groups that have been identified, marginalized communities. You know, the phraseology. But how do you explain that? Maybe it's all part of the larger neo-Marxist revolutionary ideology. And so some of their own are going to have to be sacrificed along the way, subjugated to the larger power play. Coming into focus now for people who want to make it just a white-black thing? Dan Proff, Chicago's Morning Answer. This is Chicago's Morning Answer. Your show keeps me alive during the week. There's nobody I'd rather listen to between 5 and 9 in the morning than you guys. On AM 560, The Answer. Speaking of blacks and whites and identitarians of all stripes, on that side. Coming together to subjugate black Americans. Property taxes in Illinois. One of my favorite stories. Not one of Tatiana Squire's favorite stories. Tatiana Squire is a recent home purchaser in Riverdale. I think she works for the CTA based on the photos of her in uniform in this piece that Fox Chicago did.

She got a bit of a shock when she bought her house and the property tax bill came. For Tatiana Squire, this house represented something her family had never seen before except for her grandmother. She's the first in her generation to become a homeowner. This is the surprise that I've been wanting to give y'all for so long. I got to help, Mom. It's our house. How much not help? Last year, she bought this home on Clark Street and Riverdale, a place she hoped would give her to sons something she never had, stability. I was excited about it because I worked hard for it. I knew what I wanted for my kids. It's a piece of man. My kids can play on the front. Then came a letter that stopped her in her tracks, a notice from the Cook County Assessor's Office. Inside, a new property tax assessment that she says changed everything. In February, February, I received a letter in the mail stating that, hey, come March, your mortgage will be going up to at least $3,700. That increase pushed her annual property tax bill to nearly $17,000. An amount she says she'd never expected when she purchased the home for $207,000. The property had been abandoned for years before it was rehabilitated, renovated, and sold. $17,000 property tax bill and a $207,000 house in Riverdale, which is about 12% of property value. Yeah, that's a real kicking the teeth, isn't it? At closing, property taxes were estimated and included in her escrow payments. But after the home was reassessed, the tax burden surged. Property tax bill that I have a $16,000. I should be in Naperville somewhere. Welcome to the party. Welcome to the party. I mean, I'm sympathetic to Ms. Squire. But by the same token, I'm running out of empathy for people in Chicagoland who have the I can't believe it happened to me moment. It would be nice. I mean, I am sympathetic to her plight here. But it would be nice if somebody would ask Tatiana Squire and others similarly situated. Have you been paying attention? Have you been paying attention to what's happening in Chicagoland?

her realtor. When I pulled those tax bills for each of these properties that had sold three months and almost maybe a year and a half after her property had closed, Ms. Squire had the highest taxes assessed in all of Riverdale for a residential property. There's no one goes to live to Riverdale to pay $4,000 on a mortgage. That's well said. Riverdale's effective property tax rate is 27%. It is one of the highest in an entire nation when you compare it to the city of Chicago at 6%. Now, according to the Cook County Tax Assessors Office, there is an exemption on the property. That will take that tax bill from $17,000 to $13,000. Much of that money goes to the village. Also District 148 and Thornton Township High School District 205. Yet both schools, they definitely perform below illicit. noise average, and that includes in reading and also math proficiency. So the big question here, where is all that tax money going? I think I overshed it. Maybe the 17 was about a little under 10% of home value, and that 13 brings it to like 6 or 7%. So those numbers at the end from that reporter seem a bit inflated. I don't know what she's describing as 27% versus 6% in Chicago, the percentage of what, not of home value. But, I mean, honestly, 8% of home value in Riverdale. The national average property tax is just under 1%. 8x in a majority black community. But your political power structure in Illinois is looking out for you. I doubt Ms. Squire believes that now. The nicest thing there at the end that reporter talking about the schools were, of course, the majority of property tax. property taxes go to fund. Nice thing as she was talking. I wish she would actually give in the data, but at least she mentioned the schools that Ms. Squire is funding are woefully underperforming. We're at blank checks. You keep sending your, you keep sending your money. You keep watching your house get liquidated to pay for schools that teach very few kids how to read or do math, at least at a proficient level. So it was nice that that was included. We're making progress at a glacial pace, but a little bit of progress in terms of the reporting because maybe the victims now are more sympathetic, more in line with the Chicago Press Corps's fellow traveler corps than when they're out in the Tony leafy suburbs. But yeah, Tatiana Squire. Another example, but, you know, in addition to burning your property tax bills. Maybe you start to spread the word. The people that we think are looking out for us, not so much. This is the morning show. More Chicago radio listeners are choosing. This is Chicago's morning answer. An AM-560, The Answer. Only the biggest stories. Only the biggest guests. And only the biggest opinions. This is AM-560, The Answer.

Top of the morning, Dan Prop here. So the Iranians down an Apache helicopter. Thankfully, the two pilots are okay. We're rescued. By a drone-operated boat, by the way, the first time that's ever been done. So, you know, there are innumerable and positive applications of AI. That seems to be one, for example. The emphasis on the response being proportional, the response of targeted strikes by the U.S. being proportional to the Iranian's downing of this Apache. Jennifer Griffin reporting. Fox News. Sean, Syncom has just announced that the airstrikes targeting Iran have ended for now. 20 targets in total were struck. The strikes began at 5 p.m. Eastern. The initial targets included air defense systems and radars. Explosions have been reported at least six sites on Keshem Island over Boucher. Hamadan and Iran's port city of Syrac near the mouth of the Strait of Hormuz and also Bandra Abbas, one of the main oil terminal port cities. Sentom called the strikes defensive and proportional. Iran's deputy foreign minister claimed that Iran had not fired any drones in the past 24 hours, but a senior U.S. official tells Fox it was an Iranian Shahid drone that shot down the U.S. Apache helicopter that had two Americans. on board near the Strait of Hormuz yesterday. Wall Street Journal reporting this. Trump hadn't been convinced of the need to retaliate against Ron earlier in the day, according to U.S. officials. In a phone call Tuesday morning with the Wall Street Journal, he played down the incident, repeatedly saying that it, quote, wasn't a big deal, unquote, and stressed that the pilots were seriously injured. He changed his mind after Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Kane, recommended military action during a briefing at the White House official said. Haxeth and Kane provided Trump with updated information about the Iranian Shahad drone that had struck the U.S. helicopter, and thus the decision to greenlight those strikes that Jennifer Griffin described. But this whole matter of... recalcitrance when it comes to kinetic action. The emphasis on this response being proportional. Who's the audience for that? I couldn't help but call to mind this scene from a show that was vastly overrated. I didn't really enjoy it that much, but this was a good scene. And I just wish that right now... Life would imitate art. Martin Sheehan on the virtue of a proportional response. You know, Martin Sheen playing the president, West Wing, if you're not familiar with the show. Scenario 1 or Pericles 1 to use his code name, sir. What is the virtue of a proportional response? I'm sorry? What is the virtue of a proportional response? Why is it good?

They hit an airplane, so we hit a transmitter, right? That's a proportional response. Sir, in the case of Pericles... They hit a barrage, we hit two transmitters. That's roughly it, yes, sir. This is what we do. I mean, this is what we do. Yes, sir. It's what we do. It's what we've always done. Well, if it's what we do, if it's what we've always done, don't they know we're going to do it? Sir, if you... Turn your attention to Pericles 1. I have turned my attention to Pericles 1. It's two ammo dumps and abandoned railroad bridge and a Syrian intelligence agency. Those are four highly rated targets, sir. But they know we're going to do that. They know we're going to do that. Those areas have been abandoned for three days now. John Bolton is a former assistant to the president for National Security Affairs, author of The Room Where It Happened, a White House memoir. He joins us now. Ambassador John Bolton, thanks for joining us. Appreciate it. Thanks for having it. Was a proportional response, the right response? No, it was not. I have to say, I've never watched West Wing, but the president had it right in that go-round. Look, the Iranians know that Trump is helpably desperate for a deal to open the straight of four moves. and bring down the price of gasoline and improve political prospects in the November election. They see that every day that goes by that we don't use significant military force is a day the Iran regime wins. And they're playing on that. I have to say, the president said some weeks ago now that we would not retaliate against Iranian strikes unless Americans die. And that was one mistake right there. American service members are not tethered goats. waiting to be killed so we can decide whether to respond. It's not clear whether this Shahed drone deliberately crashed into the helicopter or was an accident, just to be as objective as you can. It was too close under any circumstances, and that kind of endangerment itself is virtually an act of war. As long as the Iranians think that we're desperate for a deal... They'll just hold out until they get the deal they want. And that consequence is not going to be good for the United States, neither in the near term or the long term. One argument that's been made is that, look, trying to get a deal done here because at the end of the day, the Gulf states are going to have to enforce it when we're no longer around, at least not at the levels we are now. And so being deferential or. managing the alliance with these Gulf states, and it's a delicate balance. But it seems to me in response to that argument, well, if we're going to turn it over to the Gulf states to enforce the terms of whatever deal is struck when it comes to the strait, when it comes to enriched uranium, when it comes to nuclear program, when it comes to terrorist funding terrorist proxies, then wouldn't a defenestrated Iran...

Wouldn't leaving a defenestrate at Iran as opposed to just a diminished Iran be better for those Gulf states? Absolutely. Look, we're never going to solve this problem of Iran until there's regime change. Trump is obviously not interested in doing that. So what we've done in these past two or three months is we've mowed the lawn. Yet again, we've mowed the lawn. We've hurt their capacity. Once they start exporting oil again, they'll earn revenues, they'll begin to rebuild their capacity, the nuclear weapons program, their missiles, their drones, their terrorist network. And let me just say if I could have one point here about the Gulf Arab states defending themselves. There are some people who say, well, you know, if they can't defend it themselves, that's their problem. It's not their problem. Freedom of the seas, meaning through international waterways like the Strait of Hormuz, has been American policy when we were a string of 13 former colonies along the East Coast. It's absolutely vital. And it's also the case... that just because one of our allies can't defend themselves alone against the bigger power, that that's their problem, to say that Kuwait ought to be responsible for its own defense against a 92 million person neighbor like Iran. It's equivalent of saying just before World War II, well, you know, look, if Belgium and the Netherlands can't defend themselves against Nazi Germany, I guess that's their problem. alliances are beneficial in mutual respects when they're working and keeping Gulf oil on international markets under conditions of security benefits the United States as well as an awful lot of our friends and allies. Well, and if we did send that signal, then is our philosophy the same with respect to Taiwan? And what would that say to the Chinese communists with respect to the South China Sea and waterways that they have their eye on? A hundred percent. It would tell China and every other adversary of the United States around the world that we're backing away and that anything goes. And once they get that signal, anything will go. And it will be to our detriment. We benefit from free commerce across the world. Sometimes we get taken advantage of and that needs to be corrected. It doesn't mean you abandon the whole system. and think that we can just sit back here and be immune to what's happening in the rest of the world. That ended a long time ago. Well, just on the desperation meter, what about the Iranians' desperation? The squeeze that's happening to them economically, in Operation Economic Fury is part of this discussion, important part, obviously. The latest is that the Treasury Department is moving aggressively against Iran's $8 billion crypto ecosystem at the point at which crypto must be converted into a usable currency, such as dollars.

labeling several exchanges. as specially designated nationals that account for about 72% of Iranian crypto inflows. So using crypto to try to get around the financial system to try to get around the sanctions, that will be less effective in the short term, it would appear, combined with the blockade, combined with the sanctions against individual, you know, Ayatollahs or individual mullahs and so forth. I mean, that is having an impact on the Iranian economy. They are getting squeezed both personally and as a country, and that squeeze is tightening. Yes, that's correct. And it's a very good thing to do. The blockade is very important. I would not eliminate the blockade. But here's one difference between the regime and Iran and the United States. They don't care about the well-being of their people. They care about regime preservation. You know, we have a thing in this country comes out under different names, but it's the index of consumer confidence. And politicians look at that index of consumer confidence. And when it goes down, they say, my God, we're in trouble. What are we going to do? They don't have an index of consumer confidence in Iran. And if they did, the regime wouldn't pay any attention to it. That's one difference between an authoritarian radical regime like we see in Tehran and the United States. And they play that against us, too. So the, you know, if you were advising the president at this juncture, your advice and counsel would be to do what specific things? Well, you could do one of two things. One, in the big picture, this ceasefire has been essentially beneficial to Iran. I would end it. I think there's zero chance Trump is going to do that. But less than that, I would use American military force, hopefully with our Arab allies, the United Arab Emirates and the Saudis who have struck Iran. I'd use force to open the Strait of Hormuz. so that Gulf Arab oil can get out into international markets and help bring oil prices down. I'd keep the blockade against Iranian exports. And by using force, we would be reestablishing deterrence that would say to the Iranians in the future, don't try it again. Because if they emerge with some kind of diplomatic deal where they voluntarily agree to open the strait of Hormuz, in the future, they're going to treat it like a light switch to turn commerce through the straight on and off. And that means we're going to be right back here at some point in the foreseeable future. John Bolton, former ambassador, U.S. ambassador of the U.N., former assistant to the president for national security affairs, author of The Room Where It Happened, a White House memoir.

John Bolton, thanks for joining us again. Appreciate it. Well, thanks again for having me. And you joined us on the alphawealthgroup.com answer line. Before you see it on TV, share it on Facebook or read about it in the paper. Hear it here first. This is Chicago's morning answer on AM 560. The answer. A text from 262, John Bolton just last week, he pleaded guilty to the release of classified information, and you didn't even mention that. That's not, well, first of all, he's not going to talk about his plea deal until he enters it. Obviously, I'm well aware of it. So there's no point in talking to him about it. I'm happy to mention it, but that's the situation. And the release of classified information, I don't think that's the actual charge he's pleading guilty to. Again, not a topic of conversation. Those are the ground rules coming in. So I abide at them. You don't have to like John Bolton, but you should maybe still at least be able to assess and respond to the substance of what he has to say. This is the morning show. More Chicago radio listeners are choosing. This is Chicago's morning answer. An AM 560. The answer. This is Chicago's Morning Answer with Dan Proft on AM 560. The answer.

Top of the morning, Dan Proft here. Returning to our discussion about that hearing before the House Judiciary Committee focused on the Southern Poverty Law Center, Brian Fair, their interim CEO in the crosshairs of Jim Jordan and company. And one of the topics was abortion. and the SPLC's penchant for labeling anybody who disagrees with them on the protection of innocent life, white supremacist. There's an odd description for pro-lifers, as you'll hear shortly. But nonetheless, Brian Fier's struggle to defend the position under questioning from Brandon Gill. said that restricting and banning abortion is a tool that the far right uses to maintain white supremacy. Do you believe that pro-lifers are white supremacists? I believe that reproductive liberty is... No, do you believe that pro-lifers are white supremacists? I will tell you what I believe if you're asking you. I can't answer that question. Yes or no? I don't think that pro-lifers are white supremacists. Do you? What I think is that reproductive liberty is a right that every woman should enjoy. How many babies in the United States that are aborted are black? About 40% of abortions nationwide are of black babies. Blacks represent about 13% of the population. Does that sound like something a white supremacist would oppose?

What I would say again is that SPLC supports reproductive... Calling somebody a white supremacist is a pretty serious charge, isn't it? I mean, I would think you would be able to defend that if your organization says that. You clearly seem unable to. Mr. Gill, I'm not sure why you would think I'm unable to do anything. Because you're the president of the SPLC, which labels pro-lifers. As racists. Well, is your organization just hurl around epithets like that without any justification? Apparently, because he is unable to describe, speaking of what you're unable to do, Mr. Ferrier, you're unable to defend the position. You're unable to describe why it is that pro-lifers are labeled racist. You didn't deny it. You just didn't defend it. Alveda King, also there to testify before the committee from the pro-life position. Was asked the same question? She had a better answer, I'd say. Are pro-lifers, white supremacists? Pro-lifers cannot be white supremacist. Pro-lifers believe in life from the womb to the tomb and beyond. Pro-lifers fight for every baby in the womb, regardless of skin color. We have been aborted as blacks in America disproportionately. And so the white supremacists are Planned Parenthood, who admitted that they do have racist underpending with an agenda to reduce the black population by abortion. That's right. For more on this, please be joined by Scott Wilder, spokesman for pre-born. Scott, thanks for joining us. Appreciate it. Dan, it's great to be with you. Isn't it rich to have our side, the pro-life side, be talked about us white supremacist? When the founding, the grounding of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, that was the very purpose, was a white supremacist position. So no, we believe in life for all. We stand for life for all. And we have a chance to do that again with you today, and a great pleasure to spend a couple of minutes with you. Yeah, Margaret Singer, the eugenicist, and that's clearly what Alveda King was referencing. As though, the timing of this hearing, though, couldn't be better. And it's a reminder not only with respect to the SPLC, but the government agencies that they influenced over the years, including law enforcement agencies, including the IRS. to target pro-life organizations, nonprofits, not necessarily political other than belief in the sanctity of human life and acting in furtherance of that from either a practitioner perspective or a policy perspective, but not partisan. And nonetheless, the... the indignities that have been foisted upon so many pro-lifers and pro-life organizations because of organizations like SPLC and their influence in D.C.

You know, we're down the hall at your sister station. Today we have just a couple of days to save as many babies as we can. And last year, you were gracious enough to mention this. Our opportunity to save babies comes by just providing ultrasounds. At pre-born, we do this. We get zero public dollars, zero taxpayer dollars, charge zero for any services. 100% of what anybody gives goes directly to providing ultrasounds. We separately fundraise for administrative and overhead. So it's the purest thing I've ever seen in the pro-life community, to stand for life, our 20th year doing this. This is our 20th year. Just providing ultrasounds, that you double the likelihood a girl will choose life if you'll just give her an ultrasound. Whether you're in, you know, the great state of Texas, my home state, Brandon Gill's home state, the pride of the 26th district. Brandon Gill is. There you know, whether you're in the great state of Texas, very conservative on this issue, or if you're in the People's Republic of California or anything in between, you know, it doesn't matter what the laws say if once a girl sees her baby, she knows the truth. So we provide the truth wherever we can, including right here. And the efforts are great right here in Illinois. to shut down the work that pre-born does simply because we don't also provide abortions. We don't provide abortions. We stand for life. We provide free ultrasounds for girls and women. And when you do that, you don't have to do anything else because the truth is so powerful because the lie that it's not a baby. That lie has been so pervasive. Once they see the baby, they know that that, that, that's not a clump of cells. That's a baby. And we just say, that's not just a baby, that's your baby. And so you can make a difference today. You don't have to make a lot of noise to make the biggest difference for life just by providing ultrasounds. And give us, in our audience, the particulars on your campaign. Yeah. For every $28, you can out provide one ultrasound. $280 can help provide 10. If you want to provide an ultrasound machine, we placed 126 of those machines last year, more than two a week. That's a $15,000 one-time gift. I know. I couldn't either. But, you know, the rest of us could do maybe $28 a month. You can help provide one ultrasound a month, saving a baby a month for less than a dollar a day. The phone number is 833-850 Baby, if you want to remember it. If you want to dial it, I like the digits. 833-850-229. Or if you go down the Internet hall just to our sister station website to 1160 hope.com. 1160 hope.com. You can handle it all right there. We're excited to do it, Dan. You're a great champion for life. Even when we're not here, we listen. We cheer you on, and we thank you for the opportunity to talk about it. Oh, pleasure. Interesting, too. Talking about it's important those exchanges like Brandon Gill had with both... Mr. Fair and Ms. King yesterday are important for it, and this is one of the reasons, I think so. The percentage of this over at LifeSight News, LifeNews, LifeNews.com, percentage of Americans who view abortions as moral acceptable as dropped.

Americans who say killing babies is more acceptable dropped to 49% this year down from a high of 54% in 2024. The survey found a full 4-10 Americans say abortion is morally wrong. So, you know, there's a lot of uneasiness about abortion in, you know, among the American populace. A lot of people sort of in the middle, to be certain. But, you know, the more you have conversations like this, the more like what preborn does is present the reality to people at this time in a positive, the way you do it in a positive way, this is a life. You know, the more you start to move hearts and minds, and that's ultimately what has to happen. You know, it really has everything to do with the truth. I'll tell you a quick story about a girl named Sarah. Sarah came in. We talk about, you know, no judgment, man. We don't wag a finger in the face. We put an arm around the shoulder. It's a beginning of a two-year-long mentorship that includes free services like free maternity clothes, baby clothes, diaper, strollers, cribs, formula, parenting classes, counseling, on and on it goes. You know, everything is begun with the ultrasound you provide today. And we say, hey, no judgment. I mean, you may not, sometimes girls don't decide to choose life. So Sarah, growing Sarah, comes into a pre-born center. She loves the place. People are very nice to her. She gets her pregnancy test. Yes, she's pregnant. She has free pregnancy test. She gets her free ultrasound. She sees everything. She thanks them at the end of the appointment. Then she says, but I am going to keep that other appointment. And that's sort of where the rubber meets the road. You know, what do you do now? You talk about no judgment. What are you going to say? Let me tell you what the preborn folks said at the preborn center. They said, we're here. We're not going anywhere. We're here. We support you. We love you. If you go and keep that appointment and you need help down the road next week, next month, next year or tomorrow, we're here. We're not going anywhere. She thanked them and she turned around and she walked out the door and they didn't see her again for about a year when she brought her baby back. And she said, you know, I left. And I just, my heart told me, you guys knew where I was going. I knew where you stood on this. And yet, you knew where I was going. You knew what I was going to do. And you still said, we love you, we support you. We're going to be here for you. If you want post-abortive counseling, we're here. We're not going anywhere. She said, and honestly, her perspective, she said, God did a work on my heart as I left. And I just wanted you to meet the baby that would not be here had it not been for what you did and the way you did that for me a year ago. So you're making a huge difference for a girl, for a woman, give her the truth. You can't do everything for everybody, but you really are doing everything for one girl or woman when you provide even one ultrasound today. Yeah, and I mean, that's a perfect illustration of what I'm talking about. You know, you have to have the girl or woman, you know, come to that decision. She has to embrace the decision ultimately, right? And so the way that you do it is usually not through browbeating. It's through understanding. And that's what you're talking about with preborn. 833-850 baby or visit 1160. Well, well, no.

1160 hope.com or slash baby or 560 the answer.com slash baby for our station and obviously our sister station. It's just a powerful thing, and I think this is what happens. You know, everybody else is on the other side. You know, so many times liberals will join us in good causes. They'll join us in digging wells, purifying water, building cinder block houses, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked. But amazingly on this, not only do they not join us in this, they actively work against us in this. And so this is sort of an inside job. You know, if we don't do it, it's not going to be done. So this is our chance to stand up and make a difference. As I say, you know, we've all been to family gatherings where people are very different. You know, you go to Thanksgiving dinner, and I've been across the table from people that I know share my last name or I'm related to by blood, but that may be the only thing that we have in common. Sometimes I've chosen or wanted to choose to sit at the kids' table. You know, wherever everybody gets along. But, you know, you don't have to get an argument. You don't have to do anything. You just provide an ultrasound. Don't have to be loud. Don't just down the street corner. Don't have to, quote, irritate anybody. Don't have to hold a bullhorn. Just provide the truth. And that's why those numbers are changing. Because as people see the truth. I've never thought of women so much as abortion-minded as if they're abortion vulnerable. They're vulnerable to the lie. It is a convenient lie. It's a lie that I would want to believe if I were in a desperate situation like that. Because if it's not a baby, then this choice I'm about to do or make is not going to be what it actually is. But once you provide the truth in the form of the ultrasound, And that's certainly true for the girl, the woman who's in the middle of the griddle. But it's also true for the rest of us. As you see, that it is a baby. Science is catching up to what faith has known for a long time. This is a baby. And once she sees her baby, we've had girls walk in and say, you know, afterwards they'll say, yeah, I walked in and I was like, no way, no way, I'm not going to have a baby. And they walk out after they see their baby, after they're introduced to their baby for the first time by the ultrasound you provide today. And they say, you know what, I came in thinking, no way, and I'm walking out thinking I can't wait. Yes, follow the science to borrow a phrase. It is true. To support pre-born's efforts, as Scott has been describing again, the number 833-850 Baby or our site 560The Answer.com slash baby.

Scott, any parting thoughts? No, I just say don't put it off. You know, if I delay, I get distracted. I know we live in a very, very busy world. But if you have some kind of tug or some kind of whisper in your ear right now to do it, you can always do more later if you want to. But if you want to just save just one baby today at $28 or $10 at $280. We just have today to save $250 babies. And Dan, you're a hero for life. And I appreciate the chance to be with you today. Scott Wilder, he is spokesman for pre-born. We've been discussing again the number 833850 baby or the site 560 The Answer.com slash baby donate now. Scott, thanks so much for joining us. Great pleasure, Dan, thanks. Hear about the big stories of the day. Then talk about them right here on Chicago's morning answer on AM 560. The Answer. Top of the morning, Dan Proft here. So Jelly Belly says, you know, he's still in the fight for the Bears to stay in Illinois. He's still willing to expend political capital. He's willing to call a special session if the General Assembly can get its act together. Governor J.B. Pritzker said the state has gotten some calls from the Bears and has made it clear to the team that they have to make their priorities known. I expend political capital all the time. I'll continue to do so to get things done on a priority basis. I will continue to work with the Chicago Bears and anybody who wants to make sure that we provide them with what it is they need that isn't going to cost taxpayers more money. I don't know how to characterize my bullishness. Here's what I know. We would like them. I love the Chicago Bears. I want them to be in Illinois. And I have worked very hard to try to keep them in Illinois. I've worked so hard. He doesn't love them, though, as much as, say, Lion Electric in Joliet, that EV bus manufacturer that we gave 50 million. He gave 50 million dollars of your money to. He wasn't versed doing that. That shuddered now. Obviously, as I mentioned before, the half a billion dollars he's provided so far to the Chinese communist back EV battery plant in Mantino. I didn't like the bears that much. And of course, this is the first time I've heard this, really trying to distance himself from the blast zone. Not only breaking bad on BJ, which he did before, you know, it's the mayor's fault. It's not me. I'm not the mayor of Chicago, right? And he's not the mayor of Arlington Heights. It's a state issue. Could have been. But also the Bears. The Bears fumble the ball. Wonderful sports metaphor. In the last couple of days, there have been incoming calls. No, incoming calls from the Bears, not just to me, but as you know, to legislative leaders, the bears, you know, would like to see something happen. And so, and we all do too. And so the question is, can they do that? And so I think they're regrouping and trying to figure out.

As you know, I think the bears had to run from the very beginning of this thing. They had to run a kind of a tight... play to make it work because of all the challenges that are put upon the people of Illinois right now. You know, the number one thing is not providing a multi-billion dollar stadium for a professional team, but instead meeting the needs of everyday folks. So from the beginning, from the beginning, of course, there were some fumbles that occurred by the Bears, beginning with a press conference with the mayor of Chicago talking about a multi-billion dollar stadium that they wanted to have. built with taxpayer dollars. That's not something I was ever willing to do. They never asked. They just held a press conference. That was the start of some of the fumbles. Then, as you saw, they came into the session without a complete plan. And then there was a lot of talk. What location do they want to be in? Do they want to be in Chicago? Do they want to be in Arlington Heights? They want to be in Hammond. And then, of course, They didn't show up for the end of session. You've got to work the hallways, as you know, in a very, very busy session. You've got to really talk to every legislator if you want to get something done and they needed something big done. But you know from the very beginning, Marianne, the very most important thing to me was protecting the taxpayers and making sure that we weren't spending. Of course. She's always protecting the taxpayers. Huh. So what are these challenges that Illinoisans face that you're describing, even a governor for eight years? Running a tight play, they bought Arlington Park in 2021, as we discussed with Mike Braun on Monday. It's five years. Just dithered and dithered and dithered to make a decision to try to secure the bears. I mean, there's no matter of principle at stake here because of just a couple of examples that are many more than I mentioned. So what's really going on here? What? They weren't properly deferential to you. They didn't call you? This isn't about protecting taxpayers. Nothing in Illinois is about protecting taxpayers. Are you kidding? He is kidding. Only someone, I mean, the only place someone as inept as J.B. Pritzker. Only play somebody like this. Could get away with that rap. is Illinois. And he probably will. There's only one radio show in Chicago talking about today's biggest stories and telling you what they really mean. That show is this one. Chicago's morning answer on AM-560, The Answer. Only the biggest stories. Only the biggest guests. And only the biggest opinions. This is AM-560, The Answer.

Top of the morning, Dan Proft here. I don't know that this argument is going to carry much weight, but offer it anyway. It does speak to certain dynamics in our politics and policy discussions. Steve Moore's organization, their Unleashed Prosperity, posted this little analysis on gas prices. Gas prices are running about $4.10 a gallon nationally would be well below $4 if it weren't for blue states like California, where prices are well above five. But the more interesting thing is looking at average real gas price by administration, you know, real, so adjusted for inflation, April 20, $26. And in real terms, gas prices under Trump. even with a spike since hostilities were launched against the Iranians, is $3.32, real constant April, $2,26, which is just slightly above his entire term one, $3.25, which was significant relief from Obama, where the average real gas price was $4.30. It's also down 50 cents a gallon from... The Biden administration's average real gas price, $0.88. So it's in real dollars, it's not as punishing as Americans have experienced before, including in very recent memory. However, people don't live in context. They live in the moment, and the prices are higher than when Trump took office and they were supposed to go the other way. And so this is a difficult argument to make out. The better one is... to resolve the matter in the Middle East and see oil supply increased and price decreased, of course. For more on to this and other matters economic, Steve Moore, economist, author of the Trump Economic Miracle and The Plan to Unleash Prosperity. Again, co-authored with Art Laffer, of course. Steve, thanks for joining us. Appreciate it. Hey, Dan, good to be with you. Well, look, it is true that the gas price in real terms is lower under Trump in both his first and second terms. than it was under Obama and Biden, again, when you were just going to pay. But you're also right that people are still angry about paying. I don't know when Chicago, what people are paying, but, you know, we're paying about $4.20 a gallon, which is a little bit over the national average in the D.C. area. So, you know, people are angry about it. And we've got to get those prices down. I would simply say that if we had done the... you know, zero fossil fuels plan of Joe Biden, where we would just shut down American energy. We'd probably be paying about $10 a gallon for gas now. So, but look, historically speaking, the gas price is a little bit above the average, but it's actually historically not that high.

Yeah, although, I mean, and that's the point too. You have to look at the binary choices and some of these races when you're thinking about the midterms. And it is interesting to watch people like... that children of the corn preacher James Talarico in Texas doing full reversals. This is a guy who introduced legislation as a state representative to effectively ban the oil and gas industry. And now he's saying this in a recent podcast. We have to protect good paying oil and gas jobs. I've had family members who have worked in the oil and gas industry. I went to Texas public schools funded by Texas oil and gas. So I owe a lot. to the industry. And I know that some of these jobs keep whole families afloat. And so I want to protect our status as an energy leader here in Texas. Yeah, how about that's 180. Yeah, sure he does. I mean, the whole agenda of the Democratic Party is to destroy the fossil fuel industry. By the way, we also had an item in our hotline that, you know, we still get 80% of our energy from fossil fuels. We spent hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars on promoting wind and solar, and it's basically... trivial to our energy output. You know, and this idea that the left came up with that we were going to power our $30 trillion economy with windmills and solar power was insane, and it was crazy. But some are still promoting it. Incidentally, there's not a single country in the world where wind and solar are a major source of energy. Even in Europe, it's been talking about this for 25 years. By the way, you know where France gets most of its energy from? Russia? Nuclear. Well, oh, yeah, in terms of the sort. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And, you know, where, and, you know, some of these countries get the majority of their power from hydropower, which, by the way, is a good form of clean energy. It emits no emissions or pollution in the atmosphere. And yet the left is against hydropower, too. You know why? Well, well, go ahead. They want to protect the fish, you know, the snail's odors and so on. Of course. Yeah. Although, I mean, but to the extent that France uses fossil fuels, which it decries, it gets oil and gas from Russia, which is all, it also decries. So, yeah, I mean, there's there's, there's a lot there. There's the, the fashionable positions that are taken publicly. And then there's the reality of what you need to do to, to prop up an economy. Oh, and by the way, the other piece of this, too. which hasn't been talked about enough. Trump raised the specter of this in part when he talked about climate change being the greatest hoax of the 20th century into the 21st. But, you know, and you were talking about the hundreds of billions, trillions of dollars that have been spent propping up energy sources that are not particularly reliable and not sustainable on their own, all of these predatory.

climate change-based lawsuits, all the litigation from these, you know, sort of NGOs and leftist parties to try to gum up the works and defund energy companies by other means. Well, that's exactly what's happening. And incidentally, you know, if you look at what has been spent since going back to when Al Gore wrote his book, what was it, about 25 years ago, about the doom of the planet with respect to climate change, if you look over that 25 to 30-year period, an estimated 15 trillion. with a T, $15 trillion has been spent by industrialized countries, Europe, the United States, et cetera, on climate change. And think about this, $15 trillion spent, and they have not changed the temperature of the planet by 0.1 degrees. It is about probably the biggest fraud in the history of humanity, the amount of money that went into something that had absolutely zero effect. in terms of saving the planet. So these people should be held accountable. I mean, with $15 trillion, we could have, we could have easily cured cancer and save, you know. Well, speaking of millions of lives, speaking of areas ripe with opportunity to achieve savings, this whole benefits fraud area. This is, this is, I mean, this is a transaction. That's a good transition. Yes, it is. And Brooke Rollins, the Secretary of Agriculture, she's been beating this drum since sort of the anti-fraud Task Force zeitgeis was whipped up. Just on the food stamp program in red states that are actually complying with the federal government in auditing the books. Take a listen. In a letter to every governor in America, no one had ever held the states accountable. The federal government funds the food stamp program. We send hundreds of millions of dollars a day to the states. But there had never been a back-end accountability on how is that money getting spent. So we asked all the states to partner with us as time to have accountability. The red states, of course, did. And with that red state data, we found 200,000 dead people getting food stamps. We found half a million people that were getting more than one benefit. And y'all, this was in the red states. The blue states wouldn't give us the data. They're suing us. We're in massive litigation right now looking to cut those funds off until they give us that data. But the fraud is so rampant and so stunning that when the president, the vice president and our team talks about, you know, when we can root all this fraud out, we're going to really be able to cut the deficit. make sure we're protecting the taxpayer, but also make sure we're protecting the families that rely on these programs at the same time by getting the fraud out. Well, and one more before I let you opine, Steve. Harris Faulkner detailing the closing of a loophole over at HUD, too. Now that should lead to the closing of the agency, but I digress. Take a listen. The secretary has honed in on a severe problem for Americans who are seeking help and affordable housing.

It's a loophole that gives families with illegal immigrants federal housing that could go to U.S. citizens. It doesn't. Secretary Turner says he will close that loophole. and free up HUD funding to help American families in need. And according to HUD data, just to give you an example, nearly 200,000 tenants have not proven they qualify for the government assistance that they are getting. And the point that you'll hear the secretary make is they're not even asked to qualify whether or not they're U.S. citizens in this country. They don't have to show anything. They just show up with their relatives and on the sneak and fraud stay in that housing that American citizens should get. And there are some 24,000 illegals or fraudsters, as I call them, taking up thousands of homes. It's not just for California, Steve. Well, here's the bottom line on this. The reason that states like Illinois and California and New York and New Jersey and Maine and Vermont and Oregon are not doing anything about reducing the fraud is they want the fraud because they see it as free money to their states. And you see governors like J.B. Pritzker saying, oh, food stamps are great. They stimulate our economy. Well, yeah, if you've got criminals getting all the money and then they're spending the money in the state of Illinois, it is. It is a, quote, stimulus, but it's costing our economy hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars, perhaps trillions. I think we could actually cut our budget deficit in half if we just got rid of the fraud. But the Democrats are shown absolutely zero interest. My favorite one, I think I mentioned this on your show a couple weeks ago, is California is now covering Medicaid for exorcisms. Yes, yes, that's right. Well, for people who can't afford exorcisms. Tribal dances and all the stuff, healing power of tribal dances. So it just shows the waste is so rampant. And yet all the Democrats are talking about is raising taxes. They have zero interest in fighting the fraud. It is an epidemic in states like, well, look at Minnesota. We know hundreds of millions of dollars were just stolen by fraudsters. And yet the left. And the media blame the whistleblowers who are exposing the fraud, not that people are committing the fraud. Well, speaking of raising taxes, Steve, last week, Trump jacked up taxes tariffs. That's a tax. From 10% to 12.5% on some 60 countries that he accused of engaged in forced labor. Right. And your response? Yeah, I mean, look, I don't like forced labor. I don't like slavery. I don't like people. Yes, of course. But I don't like tariffs either. So I'm not a tariff guy, as you know. And I think it actually has had a negative effect on U.S. economy overall. It has probably contributed a little bit to inflation. But the tax cuts actually reduced inflation. So it kind of is a wash.

But, you know, the fact is Trump is going to have to get, they're going to start having to send these refund checks out. And the Trump administration has been very reluctant to do it. But the taxes were collected illegally, so they have to be returned. So, you look, I know people have very different attitudes about the terrorists. I think that if you use it as a negotiating tactic to get other countries to bring their tariffs down, and Trump has done that to some extent, they can be a good negotiating tool, but they're not a great way to have industrial investment. In fact, we're imposing these tariffs on steel and aluminum and fertilizer and so on, and we've got the shortages of those. That's actually going to lead to higher prices if we continue to impose those tariffs. There's a big, you know, there's a big, big shortage of not just oil, but fertilizer that goes through the straits. And the farmers are really suffering from that. So I'd like to see, I'd like to see those tariffs be brought down. Stephen Moore, economist, author of the Trump Economic Miracle, and the plan to unleash prosperity again, Steve, thanks as always. Oh, wait. Oh, wait, yes. Please, please, please, please tell me it's not going to be the Hammond Bears, is it? No, it'll be the Chicago Bears. They'll just be playing in Hammond. I got to believe. What incompetent leadership in Illinois and Chicago. Now, Indiana has two NFL franchises. In Illinois has zero. Talk about Red State versus Blue State. It's, you know, it should be self-explanatory, although for some reason I don't think it is for a majority of the Illinois electorate. They're just unreachable. I'm heartbroken. It's going to be a devastating. It's bad for the NFL. It's bad for the Bears fan. It's bad for Chicago. And I'm just disgusted with the leadership for that state. All right. You got your, I hope that was cathartic for you. Yes. I'm glad I got that off my chest. Very good. Steve Moore, take care. He joined us in the AlphaWeth Group.com answer line. It's news, opinion, insight. This is Chicago's morning answer. An AM 560, The Answer. This is Chicago's morning answer with Dan Proft on AM 560. The answer. Top of the morning, Dan Proft here, President Trump's point man on all things border security related. Tom of the morning, Dan Profft here, President Trump's point man on all things border security related. Tom Homan. announcing that he will be surging ICE agents in New York City because Kathy Hochul, in her infinite wisdom, the governor there, ended New York's 287G agreements with ice.

Tell us when we can expect that to happen? No. What can we expect to happen? You can expect more ICE agents go to New York because Governor Hocco signed legislation that ended our 287 agreements where one agent can arrest one bad guy turned over by a jail. Now we've got to send a whole team to look for that guy. So she took the efficiencies of the jails away and the 287G agreements. So it's only, it's math. One agent can arrest one bad guy in the safety and security to the jail, which is safer for the alien, safer for the agent, and safe for the community. But she decided to kill all that. So now we've got to send more agents to do the job that worked up one person. Tom Homan must get sick of reciting those lines because he's been saying the same thing for, well, certainly for the last 10 years. And he doesn't stop being right. So you just need to continue to make the argument when politicians take the position that Kathy Hochul has taken. It's so patently reasonable and logical. And it doesn't require any sort of action, proactive action by local law enforcement. It just requires access to the jails for federal law enforcement for the purposes that Tom Homan just said. But, of course, that's not the play. for the left, politicians like Kathy Hochul. And he's also been saying this for a while, but you can't say it enough. More color from Tom Homan on... the motivations of politicians like Kathy Hochul. A couple things. Number one is about hatred for President Trump. They don't want President Trump to have a win. Second of all, look, where will she see with four years open borders, where millions of illegal animal, many of them criminals released in the United States? Where was she then? She was complicit. She didn't say anything. And this is why. That four years open borders wasn't an accident. It wasn't mismanagement. It wasn't incompetence. That was by design. Release millions of illegal aliens in our sanctuary cities. And the overturned to Trump census rule, which means they'd be counted the next census, which means what? More seats and housed for the Dems. And they're hoping that another Democratic administration comes in, and the war's amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. This is about future political power. They don't care about national security. They don't care about public safety. All they care about is future political power. They sold this country out for future political power, and she's part of it. For more on this, Ron Vitielo joins us, former U.S. Border Patrol Chief, Deputy Commissioner and Director of ICE, the only person to have led both components of the Department of Homeland Security, ICE and CBP. Ron, thanks for joining us again. Appreciate it. Dan, I appreciate you inviting me.

So I assume you're fully aligned with Tom Homan's description of both the 287G agreements and the implications of eliminating them as well as his larger review of the motivations here. Yeah, I agree 100%. He has been living this problem for quite some time. We watch these destructive policies in places like New York, Illinois, as well, where the government, the political leaders on the Democratic side try to restrict the activity of ICE agents who are just trying to arrest people who are in the country illegally, who've also been arrested by the local jurisdictions that they live and do their crimes in. New York was already in trouble with this green light law. They're trying to restrict access. Illinois does the same thing. Access to public data that you and I could get on the Internet. They want to restrict federal law enforcement from getting things like that, you know, driver's license records, et cetera, all in an effort to deport criminal aliens who are in the country. Yeah, it's nullification of federal law. It's destructive, and it ruins the quality of life of the people who live in the country. Well, and also they're, I mean, that they're essentially platforming violence, too, as we saw outside Delaney Hall, the ICE detention facility in Newark, New Jersey last week until finally there was basically a concession to allow state and local law enforcement to assist there because you had these professional agitators, and that was well documented too, just how professionalized they are in terms of being resourced to be there. engaged in criminal activity, threatening the lives of specific ICE officers, using Bill Gates as weapons, throwing things, and all the usual things that we see outside ice facilities and politicians there to essentially rally with these professional agitators. Yeah, there's a permission structure granted by New Jersey politicians, right? They spent their memorial day, not at war memorials, not going to the Tomb of the Unknown and paying their respects. They went to Delaney Hall to complain about illegal immigrants who were in custody on the path for removal to try to get them released. And so they've shown us their lack of patriotism, their lack of reverence for those that have given the final measure. to protect this country in favor of illegal aliens who are being detained lawfully in Delaney Hall. I mean, do you worry about another administration? I mean, I think that to some extent having Trump and Tom Homan over the top and seeing activities of ICE and furtherance and CBP in furtherance of enforcement of federal immigration law, removal of people who post public safety threats, it's not going as fast as anybody wants, but.

You understand, I think Tom Homan is like the indispensable executive in this administration. You understand because of the routine communication and the stories that are being shared and the description of the efforts being made, that there is serious effort afoot and there's progress being made. And it quells some of what might otherwise happen if you went to something, went back to something like the paradigm under Joe Biden. Are you worried about that in the sense of what we see happening in Northern Ireland right now? You had, as I'm sure you saw, a Sudanese asylum seeker almost decapitate a Scottish man in the streets of Northern Ireland, to Belfast, until some people intervened and sort of beat him off of the guy before he was able to do more damage than he did. But it is generated. Well, it's generated chaos. You have, you had some 200 men show up in black dress, almost like Antifa style. And they. basically vandalized and burned down homes in Northern Ireland that were understood to be places where asylum seekers were being housed. I mean, that's exactly what you don't want to see happen. But when people lose faith in the rule of law or the unequal treatment of the law to the benefit of people who are in the country illegally, I mean, you know, this is the vigilanteism you spawn. You're right. This is a problem. Unchecked immigration, whether it's at our southern border or around the world, facilitated by the government or not is a bad idea. It ruins the quality of life of the communities where these people settle. It's a burden on schools and hospitals and public health, crime, et cetera. Assimilation used to be a core. principle of migration into the United States. Migration into the United States, you know, helped build this country in dramatic ways. But it was always for the benefit of the country, not the individuals, not the class of people, not what country they come from. It's supposed to benefit us, those that are here, those that have helped build the country, and so that people can assimilate and become that one nation that we all agree is the best on the planet. And so... Yeah, when you have this out-of-control immigration, especially if it's sponsored by the government, people lose faith in these institutions. And I do fear, as you said, a change in the leadership of the country where we're going to go back to policies that favor an open border that let these lawless jurisdictions flout immigration law and refuse to cooperate with ICE agents. It will not be a good thing for any of us. We saw what happened when Joe Biden... kicked all of the controls we had of the border overboard, and we had a surge at the border, unlike anything we've ever seen. And it changed very quickly under the second term of President Trump. We have more Border Patrol agents on duty now than ever before. They are empowered by the policy to do more while they're out there.

percent decline in the activity that they see crossing the border illegally, which gives them more capability to do what they do to protect that border and us. 110 new miles of border barrier across the southwest border, things like the waterborne barrier in the Rio Grande River, which the federal government has never installed before. So more agents, more technology, more barriers, and a policy that supports the rule of law at the border. assistance from the State Department, the Department of Justice, Health and Human Services to protect children, to have smugglers be held to account, and our partner countries, which will take back those that we find illegally crossing the border in a very rapid manner. U.S. House passed that $70 billion bill to fund ICE and Border Patrol, so that goes to the president's desk. So that's coming online. I know you talked about some of the things that the Trump administration has done with respect to enhanced border security. Also, he's increased the number of immigration judges by a little under 10%. Are there any other sort of rank order priorities? that this $70 billion could fund or enhance the funding of that you think are mission critical in this moment. Well, it will give us the opportunity to sustain the gains that were made in the first reconciliation with regard to hiring and pay for Border Patrol agents and frontline officers at ICE, et cetera. It will give us a sense of comfort in regards to the yearly budgets. We always come to this precipice where they want to shut down the government, and these last couple shutdowns affected DHS directly. And so the Border Patrol and ICE now know for the next three years under this president, they will be fully funded with regard to pay and capabilities. And so continuing to elaborate on the resources that have been given with regard to hiring wall, increasing and improving the policies that allow us to rapidly remove people overseas. And so we're just going to continue to do that, and we'll have the ability to do that over the next three years. without Congress threatening to restrict funding for pay and other capabilities that are necessary to be successful. I want to give your reaction to something that Illinois governor, who aspires to be President J.B. Pritzker, what he said in response to a question. So in the context of a bear stadium, you know, why you said you don't want to spend tax-fraid money in a bear stadium, but you spend billions on providing all sorts of services and benefits to illegal immigrants residing in Illinois. Here was his response to that, and I want to get your reaction to his response. You may not recall that it was the governor of Texas.

Greg Abbott, who decided to throw people onto buses and ship them across the country, 55,000 of them to the city of Chicago, to the state of Illinois. Yeah, we didn't get much help from the federal government to deal with that. And so the question you have to ask yourself is, in a humanitarian crisis, when people are arriving in the middle of winter often, without the proper clothing, certainly without food, without shelter. Were we just going to let them starve or freeze and be on the streets? And the answer was no. What we had hoped was that the federal government would assist in this or that Governor Greg Abbott would stop shipping people across the country to very cold climates. But we did what we needed to do to make sure that they stayed alive and were able to thrive. Many of them found other places to go, which is great. But you've mischaracterized what happened back then. What do you think, Ron? Well, it's amazing the lack of common sense and what the reality looks like in his eyes versus what you all saw on the ground there. Yeah, was it the fault of Texas, the root cause of those migrants coming to Chicago? And if 55,000 were sent on buses from another state, how many millions came on their own, with their own two feet, with their own resources, and are now a burden to your public health? apparatus to the schools in neighborhoods, to the crime and the lack of assimilation, the gang activity that exists in these major cities, including Chicagoland. So, yeah, he suffers from the ability to talk about the world in ways that do not match reality. And he seems to get away with it quite often. He never talked about how... President Biden should secure the border to stop those buses from coming and to stop those people from coming. It was always someone else's fault. And, you know, it just lacks common sense for him to stand there and defend what happened and the continuance of an open border when the Democrats are in charge. Yeah, well, and it's, that's somebody else's problem. You let the border states, let Texas deal with that. I don't want to deal with that, except I've sent to the world, because we're a sanctuary state, that I do want to deal with that, and they're welcoming, which is why we got the buses that we did, putting his fashionable views to the reality test is what Greg Abbott did and Ron DeSantis did to places like Illinois. And, you know, then they turn around and say, well, this just happened to us. They inflicted this on us. You welcomed it. You wanted it. You champion it. You campaign on it. And then, oh, no, no, no, but don't actually hold me to account for it. Don't actually hold me to the reality of the policy choices that I'm proposing and advancing. No, of course not. Let that be somebody else's problem. I just want to wave the flag. I don't want to have to deal with the problem. And he still chooses criminal aliens who have been arrested for major crimes in the state. He still defends the idea that they can't be. turned over to ICE when their sentences are completed in local jurisdiction jails like Cook County, et cetera. So he's still going to defend criminal illegal aliens over the citizens of Illinois because the party that he resides in supports that kind of activity, even though it lacks common sense. It's dangerous and it puts it all at risk. Yeah. I'm sure the angel families like the Abrahams and the...

Gormans would echo that sentiment. They have to live it. They have to live the consequences that J.B. Pritzker doesn't want to live. Ron Vitiela, former U.S. Border Patrol Chief, Deputy Commissioner and Director of ICE, the only person to have led both components of DHS, both ICE and CBP. Ron, thank you for your time, as always. Appreciate it. Thank you. And Ron joined us on the elfwealthgroup.com answerline. The stories you need to know to start your day. This is Chicago's morning answer. On AM 560, the answer. Top of the morning, Dan Prop, just some additional caller on what we were discussing in part with Ron Vitiello. What's happening in Northern Ireland right now? And the response from the politician media class, talk about a combine, about what you'd expect if it happened in Chicago. There's video of this attack. And the Sudanese asylum seeker, the student, it's unclear. It wasn't reported, so I don't know if he's in the country illegally or legally or. You know, some dubious purgatory, I don't know. But that was characterized as coming from Paris to, I think, Inglan making his way to Northern Ireland. So anyway, the important point is that he attacks this guy. He is on top of him trying to stab, trying to, he did stab him, trying to behead him. And he's holding up the knife. with blood on it, like in defiance, like as a conqueror, invading marauder. And there's video that circulated about this, which is part of the reason it drew such an immediate and unfortunately violent response. And the response from the policymakers and the people who flack for the policymakers, also known as the media. The argument has been coming from government for some time now that, you know, technological advances are happening so quickly that they are now playing catch up policy-wise. But, you know, as it was pointed out, it's a year to the day since or to the weeks since Ballymena. I mean, the regions have been going on for a long enough time that it sort of beggars belief that a video of that nature was allowed to be circulated for hours and hours on end this morning. without any consequences or with any of those companies that are regulated here in Ireland being called up on it. The way to address that is not to change our multicultural open borders policies. It's to suppress videos like that when they start circulating of the consequences of our policies. Exactly. Do not show reality. Don't show reality. We have the same thing here. Oh, this is too. We got to warn you. We're not going to show this video because it's too graphic and this and that. You don't want to see the consequences of the policy choices, the people that you elected made. Keep telling the beautiful lies. Keep pulling those sentimental strings. Don't let people see the truth.

in all of its brutality. This is the morning show. More Chicago radio listeners are choosing. This is Chicago's morning answer on AM 560. The answer. If you're looking for the latest news, insight into what it means, and the sharpest opinion. There's only one station in Chicago where you can turn. It's this one. We're AM 560. The answer. Top of the morning, Dan Brock here. Of course, we've got our annual AM-560 golf outing coming up. This coming Monday, June 15th at McCray Golf Course up in Barrington. Two shotguns, 7.30 a.m. and 1 p.m. You've no doubt heard the advertisements. We have a couple of foursomes left. So we'd like to lock them down and close this out. And again, we're partnering as we have the last several years with Tunnel to Towers Foundation, which is, of course, a well-known organization that supports America's first responders and military heroes, including homeless veterans. and ensures helps to ensure that Americans never forget 9-11, no matter who the mayor of New York City is. But I digress. All foursoms get among the usual accoutrema for a golf outing. This is the interesting thing. You get an AM-560 marketing campaign, 25-1-minute commercials to air on AM-560, Monday through Friday between 5am and 8 p.m. for your business or... Perhaps you want to do this on behalf of a nonprofit. And it will also include a complementary digital marketing analysis, 25-minute, one-minute commercials in addition to all the other trappings of a golf outing. Couple foursomes left, 560the-answer.com slash golf is where you go to sign up, 560the-answer.com slash golf. And to talk more about the... Tunnel to Towers partnership here. Oh, by the way, I should mention sponsored by our friends at Signature Bank, too, but the partnership here with the beneficiary of our outing, Tunnel to Towers, pleased to be joined by Christopher Avada Bill, a senior director of the National Golf Series for the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. Christopher, thanks for joining us. Appreciate it. Good morning. Thank you for having us. Appreciate it. Appreciate you guys and everything you guys are doing. Yeah, yeah. No, it's our honor to do so. It's really been a great partnership. The guys that come to the outings for people who have been there, like myself, are always great. I mean, rousing speeches. But, I mean, it's really important, the substantive work. And I know that you guys have helped people that first responders and military heroes in Chicagoland. I've mentioned one before, Danny Golden, who was shot and paralyzed, former Chicago police officer now actually working with ATF. But just before we get into the golf and all the trappings, your view on the Tunnel to Towers Foundation, maybe some examples of the work you do with more detail than I have, and how these golf outings that you do around the country fit into raising the money to do these things.

Sure, sure. So just to give everybody some insight and what's going on for this year, obviously being the 25th anniversary of 9-11, there is a living memorial of 343 homes, mortgatory homes I will be given out throughout this year. 25 were just recently given out on Memorial Day weekend, which was amazing. We also have the steel across America. A 16,000 pound piece of steel from the South Tower is actually going across America with multiple stops where everybody will have a chance to do. You can go on the T2T.org website, and you'll be able to see all the stops that are available. And then also what that leads into, obviously, coming into the golf section, the golf portion of the organization where I stand, biggest thing that's coming out of this in the 25th year, we're approaching 300 total golf outings across the board. And that includes, you know, Premier, Tunnel Tower is a third party. So it's really an amazing year growing the golf program itself. But it also adds to the other program that's including with golf, which is the adaptive program, which helps are catastrophically injured. recipients be able to get back out on the golf course and get their freedom back being able to socialize play the game that they love or learn the game that they that they didn't know that they wanted to love but it really allows them with the verticat We have 24 of those currently out to our recipients. It allows them to address the bowl, stand up at the ball, and take a full swing. Right now, there are four more on order for another, so that will bring us up to 28 recipients that will have verticats to get out back out on the golf course and get that freedom. Yeah, it's great. And I mean, and with the sort of advancing technology when it comes to treating the catastrophically injured and prosthetics and so on and so forth, there's more that people are able to do with the technology being what it is. Yes, and it's been absolutely amazing working again with the company Bertic has. And so overwhelmingly positive for not just... The foundation, but also, like we said, for the recipient. A lot of gentlemen, I got the privilege to play with a couple weeks ago down in Florida. And, you know, he always played golf. He had to play golf with his dad for, you know, since he could remember. He had lost both his legs overseas. And now with the verticat, he's able to get back out there. He's.

getting back out there with his son out on the golf course. So again, it's just a wonderful thing to be able to have that, you know, being able to come back to, you know, the reality at being able to have normalcy again, which has been absolutely amazing. We're also pleased to be joined by Jack Ome, who is a battalion commander, retire from the New York City Fire Department. He's also a member of the Board of Tunnel of the Towers Foundation. Jack, thanks for joining us again. Appreciate it. My pleasure, Quinn. Thank you for having us. So just to talk a little bit about the sort of the big picture. We're talking about golf. We were talking about obviously. Have you heard with Christopher about the golf outing specifically in some of the examples of the work that's done? But sort of the big blue sky vision for tunnel to towers here so many years in at this juncture. Yeah, so, I mean, golf is a sport that brings people together. You spend a couple hours playing a game that they love, and then you come back. to the clubhouse and usually have a few cocktails and reminisce about the day. And then they learn about what the foundation does for all our true American heroes. So Gulf ties us all together as a nation, just like our run series, just like our climb series. I just did the tower climb on Sunday morning 104 stories at the World Trade Center. So these events tie all Americans together. They get to know what our foundation does for our true American heroes. Just the point and the mission statement about making sure that Americans never forgets 9-11. Are you as optimistic that that will be the case as you were maybe five or ten years ago? Well, I'm always optimistic because there's always hope. But we do see things that are, you know, sad to see that our schools are not teaching what happened to us 25 years ago. And our foundation is doing everything we can. We have a whole 9-11 institute where teachers all over the country can go and access a curriculum. for whatever grade they're teaching, from kindergarten to 12th grade, they can go to our website, download a lesson plan, and teach it to their children. So they don't even have to do much work. All they have to do is download this lesson plan and then tell the kids in appropriate language what happened to us on 9-11. And that's what we have to do, right? That's why we're bringing the steel around. So people never forget. That's one of the main missions of our foundation. Never forget what happened to us. Never forget all those true heroes that sacrificed their lives on that day. And the more than 7,000 military men and women that have died defending and protecting us since 9-11. We can never forget these true American heroes.

Yeah, and then the American heroes that you guys help then turn around and become ambassadors for the Tunnel Towers Foundation, for paying it forward, for educating the populace. I mean, so there's this multiplier effect that your programs have. Yes, I think once people realize what we do and then they become family members once we pay off their mortgages or build them a smart home. They become a part of our family and they go out and tell others of the good work that we do day in and day out to help these two heroes. And Christopher, again, just on the golf outings specifically, since you're the director of the golf outing series, just remind us again of how many golf outings you guys are doing on an annualized basis and what the overall raises. Because I always just like to put this in context for our audience to say, you know, we're just doing our part of a much bigger deal. And, you know, and everybody can do something small to add up to something big. Oh, yeah. So, again, we're nearing about 300 total golf outings for this year in 2026 on the 25th anniversary of 9-11, and it generates millions of dollars for the foundation for our programs. Again, one of the biggest things is the adaptive golf for veterans eradicating a veteran homelessness, and the newest one of the main George Siller scholarship program. All right. Again, a couple of foursomes still left, so let's lock those out. It's this Monday. Two shotgun starts, 7.30 a.m. for those early risers, 1 p.m. for people who work in the morning like myself. 560.theA.com slash golf to secure one of those last foursums. And remember, one of the unique things about our golf outing is this marketing campaign that you get for your business or. a business or a nonprofit that you want to help, 25-1-minute commercials to air on our airwaves and prime broadcast hours. 560 The Answer.com slash golf. Jack Ome, Battalion Commander, retire, New York City Fire Department, member of the Board of Tunnel of the Towers, and Christopher of Avedill, Senior Director of the National Golf Series for Tunnel of Towers. Gentlemen, thank you so much. Appreciate your time. Thank you, Quinn. Thank you. And Quinn, Dan, you know, we're interchangeable parts. And they joined us on the AlphaWealthgroup.com, Angeline. The more you listen, the more you'll know, this is Chicago's morning answer. Morning answer. On AM 560, The answer. Tax from 815. Please repeat where we can get lesson, golf, the lesson plans about 9-11 for the schools, teachers. Yeah, let's go to t2t.org. T2T.org, Tunnel and Towers Foundation's website, and you can access all that information in addition to all their other programs. So, yeah, you can tell why we're happy to partner with them, proud to partner with them for our golf outing. I did want to get back to the California Count since it's ongoing.

I mean, you could still get your ballot at as late as yesterday. The Wall Street Journal opining on the California count is the California election rig question mark. No evidence of fraud so far, but the states lacks voting rules create openings for it. That's a very generous description of what's happening here. First of all, there is evidence of fraud. And we'll get to that. And I don't just mean my argument, which the system is the fraud. But listen to the Wall Street Journal, which is always, you know, very tepid on these matters. Listen to them describe the system. One more outlet providing one more description. They all sort of come to the same place. But this is a very sanitized version. And still. See if this doesn't fit the conclusion. The system is the fraud. California sends mail and ballots to all register voters who have until Election Day to send them back. Sends mail and ballots to all registered voters. Preemptively. Many ballots don't arrive at county election offices until days later. California also lets people register and vote on Election Day. Voters may cast ballots in person at any polling place in their county. The result is a larger number of provisional ballots are cast that require more scrutiny, which, of course, prolongs vote counting. The state also lets third parties, including unions, campaigns, and political parties collect and return an unlimited number of ballots on voters' behalf, ballot harvesting. This can result in large dumps of mail and ballots that support a particular candidate. Can invariably will. Ballots that arrived after Election Day in California have skewed Democratic. The share of ballots returned by Democrat voters on Saturday, about 56%, 11 percentage points more than its share of the electorate. Share of ballots cast by younger voters also surged. None of this is a surprise. Democrats legislated election rules to make it exceptionally easy to register and vote with the intent of boosting turnout among young and low propensity voters who lean left, but these rules also create openings for fraud and improper voting, please. I mean, again, even that very, very lukewarm description tells you everything you need to know. And oh, by the way, the other piece of this is even the rules as stated in statute, we know. from those who have interacted with election workers. What is required under law is not enforced under law, not by down-the-line workers, not by their superiors. There's no interest. There's no scrutiny. There's no interest in providing scrutiny. And if anybody tries to intercede... We'll go to court to block you, which is what California is doing to the federal government, the Department of Justice. But you'll count on the D.C. Press Court to run interference for all this. This is a fun one. CNN reporter, her name is Jamie. Jamie Gangel.

Hey, slow doesn't mean fraudulent. And there is no evidence here. I do think it's important for those of us on Earth 1 to remember, California has the largest population. These are millions of voters. They do a lot of mail and ballot. By the way, today, if your ballot arrives in California, it will still be counted on June 9th as long as it was postmarked. Which you can postmark. Beau said, you know, slow does not mean fraud. Slow does not mean rigged. The only time President Trump starts throwing this around is when he's not winning. That's not true, but that's immaterial. President Trump is immaterial to this. They evoke the specter of President Trump to try to delegitimize it so you don't have to address any of these substantive matters. There's no evidence of fraud. There's all sorts of videos like this circulating online, for example. And then there's a New York Post expose on precisely this, efforts made by both Rahman and Bass voters to illegally register and pay. homeless people to vote their way. Here's one woman. You vote? Yeah. For Karen Bass? Yeah. Karen Bez. As though I say Bezhan? Karen Bass. Yeah. Or Nithya Raman? Karen. Karen? They told you vote for Karen? Yeah. They had to sign a little thing. And how much they pay you? It's like two bucks. Two bucks? Or to sign off on a thing to vote for her? Yeah. Two bucks to sign off on a thing to vote for her, says some strung-out homeless lady on Skid Row. And as I mentioned, the post story, we don't have time to get into now. Skid Row homeless claim they've been paid to vote for both Bass and Nithya Raman. As I said. The theory that Nithya Raman, that Bastet want to face Pratt, you're missing the point. Internal struggles. Internal power struggles are a real thing. You've made the switch, and it feels so good. You've switched to Chicago's morning answer on AM 560, the answer. Thanks for listening to Chicago's Morning Answer podcast sponsored by Signature Bank. Signature Bank takes pride in helping customers grow their business and provide unmatched banking expertise. custom financial solutions, and the industry's best technology. So whether you're a business looking for a deposit relationship or needs a ready source of financing, signature bank is the right bank for you. Call today at 773-467-500 to hear how signature bank can help your business grow and thrive. Member FDIC, Equal Housing Lender.