The Kuhner Report (WRKO 680)December 13, 20258m

Has Trump Lost the Plot?

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The tariffs are shifting every day. Business can't move like this. So it's not that he hasn't focused on the economy. The policies are erroneous. He needs a course correction on the tariff policy immediately. Immediately. What he did in the first term was a mild, modest tariff regime. This was massive. And as I said then, I said, we're not ready for it. And I've been proven right. because many of us have lost one full year of productivity now. And if you replicate that over millions, it is the reason that the economy isn't moving. Grace, I just want to go back. You know, you and I disagree on the tariffs. I don't want to rehash that, but I respect your position. And again, you always express it very articulately, no question. But I want to go back to your first point. That's a very interesting point. Are you essentially saying, again, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but that he's become beholden to big donors in a way in his second term that he wasn't in the first term. Yes, and I think that's why many of us, look, if you go back and you listen to him how he was speaking in 2024, and you listen to him now, it's almost like two different people sometimes. I'm like, I don't recognize this person. And remember, Marjorie Taylor Greene, when she stepped away, she said something that really just hit me in the gut. She said, it almost doesn't matter who we vote for. The results are the same. And I was asking myself, well, why is that? Because, Jeff, the truth of the matter is it's not just that we're facing a uniparty anymore, because MAGA now took control of the Republican Party. And yet, even with MAGA dominating everything, many of us feel that the middle class doesn't get ahead. It's because we have an oligarchy now. This is the problem. Our democracy has descended into an oligarchy. and the fact that there was so much campaign money coming from the donors it has changed the scope of his second term dramatically and basically look what he did we've got to look at his actions uh... he called montry taylor green a traitor for what for asking that 14-year-old girls not be raped by billionaires. And he called her a traitor for that. That's not the Trump of 2024. That's not the Trump that I voted for. So he's beholden to this big money that he's protecting now with the Epstein file. So we see that very clearly. And all of you who think there's going to be arrests, there's not going to be big arrests because the deep state is in bed with the pedophile ring. So he's blocked now.

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This is the big difference. And anybody who speaks out against it is branded a traitor? Are you kidding me? Grace, when you say big donors, I have to push you on this or press you on this because you're right. This is something that I don't know if I agree with you, but I'm saying you're right in the sense of the criticism that's coming now from Marjorie Taylor Greene and from Tucker Carlson and from Steve Bannon. These are some of his most loyal, or at least they were, some of his most loyal supporters, the heart of the MAGA base. And they're saying that he's caved on Israel. That he's getting, you know me, I'm very pro-Israel. I back Trump all the way. I back the bombing of Iran and Fordo and the nuclear facility. I support Israel in the struggle with the Palestinians. But that's me, okay? Tucker Carlson is against. Marjorie Taylor Greene was dead set against. Steve Bannon was against. They're saying that he's got too many, let's be frank, this is what they say. powerful Jewish or pro-Israel donors who have given him a lot of money and that he delivered for them on the Israel issue and on the Iran issue, but they're saying that distracted him from his America First agenda. Do you agree? Jeff, no, I hate this focus on Israel so much. You know, I think this is just so bizarre. It just strikes me as odd. When I say big donors, I'm talking about he's beholden to big tech, big pharma, big business, and not focusing on the middle class. To the point that if you ask him how good the economy is, he says it's a plus, plus, plus, plus. Are you kidding me? I just, you know, I went through a Starbucks. And I say, oh, hi to this young woman, how are you doing? I'm working six days a week. Okay, she's got tears in her eyes. But I'm living with my mother's, the mother of my boyfriend, because we can't afford a place. Obviously, she can't stand the mother because she's got tears in her eyes, right? But this is a young person who is stuck. And I see this all the time. And Trump is telling me that the economy is A plus plus because big tech is happy, big pharma is happy, big business is happy, and he's meeting these donors all the time. So much so that if he said, I want a big ballroom, they give him $400 million. Shazam! Shazam! Dr. Grace, tell me how you really feel. Okay, well, obviously, I disagree with you. I don't think it's nowhere near as dire as you and your car, a Starbucks friend, the one who gives you your coffee, make it out to be. But listen, I, same place, same time. We love to hear from you. Dr. Grace, you agree with her, disagree with her. Your calls next.

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