Is Trump Caving?

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He's now, Bovino is out. He's basically now sent him out of Minnesota along with a good chunk of the Customs and Border Protection agents. So federal agents are leaving Minnesota. Bovino has been removed from Minnesota. He was overseeing the operations, the deportation operations. They've now sent him to California, which was where his headquarters was initially located. And he's been replaced. by Tom Homan. Holman is now the point man. Holman is meeting with Waltz and Frye. In fact, he arrived last night. He's going to meet with Walt's Tim Walz and the boy wonder today. In person, they're going to talk about seeing if they can cooperate and meet Trump's four demands. Is Trump blinking? Is this a sign of weakness on the part of Trump? Or, as the White House is saying, no, I'm sending in the right guy for the right moment at the right time to deal with this situation because Holman is tough but fair. And Holman can get waltz and fry to the table. And we can come up with an agreement where everybody wins. We get illegals deported. Waltz and Fry will get us out because we're just going to deport as many as we can as quickly as possible. And everybody can go home. Is Holman the key to unlocking this in Minnesota or is it now a capitulation by Trump? Or capitulation, maybe a strong word, is Trump now starting to buckle and is he starting to cave? What's your interpretation of this? Uh, twofold. Here's the problem. Uh, I know it sounds strange. I don't think border patrols should have been up there in the first place. They should have just had ice and, uh, and any other federal agency that, they can deal with it. But border patrol should be down there by the border in the first place. That's what I would have. I wouldn't have brought them up there in the first place, but. They're there. So he already did that. But the problem is once you've made that mistake, now you've got to try to correct it. Tom Homan coming there, and much as I love the guy too, I think that's a little bit too late now because now it shows that you've made a mistake in the first place. And once you replace a guy and it shows that you didn't have faith in him doing the job the right way to first place. You know, that's what that's my interpretation because. If you send a guy to do a job, he's doing a job. And now you don't like the way the press is making the guy look if he's doing his job. Now you replace him, so you've already given in. You've already given in right there. Interesting. Interesting. Darrell, thank you very much for that call. And look, the other thing the press is really playing up is that Kristi Noem is being sidelined. You know, he's not sending his DHS secretary. to talk to Holman, sorry, to talk to Waltz and to talk to Fry. He's sending in Holman. So this is a vote of non-confidence in Christine Ome. Now, the White House says they're not going to let her go. They're not going to fire her. But Trump is not happy, according to the White House, with the way Kristi Noem has handled the fallout.

617-266-686-68 is the number. You can also text the Cooner Man, 70470, 70470. Okay, lines are blazing, text line is on fire. Let me ask all of you. It is the Cooner Country Poll Question of the Day, sponsored by Marios. Marios. quality, roofing, siding, and windows. Did President Trump do the right thing by removing Border Patrol commander Gregory Bovino and sending Borders Tsar Tom Homan to Minneapolis? So, in other words, did he do the right thing by removing Gregory Bovino, the head of the Border Patrol? and replacing him with Tom Homan and sending Holman to Minneapolis to deal with Waltz and Fry. A. Yes. Be no. You can vote on our web page. W.R.k.o.com slash Cooner. W.R.k.O.com slash Cooner. Kuh. N is in National ER. You can also vote via X. And boy, was I active on X last night. My handle there, all one word. At the Cooner Report. At the Cooner Report. Kuh. N is in National ER. Betsy in New York. Thanks for holding Betsy and welcome. Hello, we've spoken before. I'm an investigative journalist for a TV network, and I was sent to Minneapolis. I want to give you what it's like on the ground there. I was there the day after the Renee Good incident. It's a mental asylum, the whole town. This is called Southside, where this is all happening. It's all women. Now they have all their grievances. When I was there, they were having vigils every day for Renee Good. But now the indigenous people are there. And so they were complaining that we're on stolen land. Anybody who had a grievance, they're taking this out. They had a parade that had all these floats about stolen land and Renee Good. It's insane because I had to drive the streets before the vigils came out. And every single house has a no ice or kill ice, but we love our neighbors and blah, blah, blah. It's an insane asylum. And I don't blame Trump for putting in Holman and bringing out Vivino because it drains you. It absolutely drains you. I had a fight with Antifa. because they were trying to stop me from parking in a parking space. So I also want to tell you I was in a restaurant locally in this area. It's called South Side. And I was locked in. I didn't know I was locked in, but they locked the doors when people come in. So I was held against my will just to have a taco. Sorry, Betsy, why would they lock you in? Why would they do that? Because they didn't want...

ice in there and there were signs on the door that says ice is not allowed here and they put all these codes up there i don't look like ice but um they said to keep out the riffraff but i didn't agree to be locked in to a restaurant you know i'm thinking fire or whatever but they they're nuts Jeff, they're freaking nuts. All these people and they all live in the same area. The schools have ICE are not allowed here on metal signs printed up all fancy like they're from the government. Walmart, not Walmart. I was in Target the first night. It closed at 620 because they're worried about riots. So let's talk because I was there. Betsy. What's the sense regarding waltz and fry? I'm not talking about the crazies. Ordinary people who are just trying to go to work, you know, get a paycheck, raise their families, pay their bills. How do they feel the silent majority? When you speak to them, are they for Waltz and Fry? Are they against Waltz and Fry? Do they share this hatred of ICE or do they secretly silently support ICE? I can't tell you that because I didn't talk to anybody normal, truly. So I was in a hotel downtown right down from the Hilton that was attacked. But I never really discussed, that wasn't my job, was to discuss things with normal people. So I think they're all holding it close to the vest because you're going to get attacked. I was removed because of the violence. And they have this app called Signal. And that's how you get so many people at a location so quickly. It's like a mass texting that goes out to all the insane people. And that's why they're always there in crowds suddenly because they're being paid. You know they're being paid. I couldn't find the funding. But it was evil. It was, I felt evil. And I've been to... Afghanistan, I've been to Baghdad, I've been into a lot of wars. This was the worst war I've been in, and that's what it felt like. Just saying what you saw on the ground on the ground resembled a war zone and almost the beginnings of a civil war, correct? I don't want to see civil war because they're just too small. They're just... They're looking for something to fight about. It's like everyone was just out for bear. There were some nice people. I fell on the ice twice, and men stopped and helped me up. But I don't understand it. There weren't many men, but the men that were out there were Antifa.

Because that's the first thing. And they were recording me. They didn't know I was a journalist. I didn't identify myself. I was just this woman walking around. But they knew my license plate. They let me know that they knew my license plate. And I was just trying to find witnesses and stuff like that. But it's crazy. It's a circus of evil. I was there during the barricades. I mean, I was there the first day. And I'll tell you the street that Renee Good was on, that's the main drag, and it's all ice. And her blocking it sideways, it's only a two-lane road. And you can't walk on it. So I don't know how to explain this, except it was the worst place I've been in my life. Honestly, and I can handle a lot. But those people are crazed. And every grievance they have is coming out. Betsy, I've got to ask you, and we've only got about a minute left, 90 seconds. It's the $64,000 question. What should Trump do? Should he invoke the Insurrection Act? Is it time for him to send in the military and arrest Walts and Fry? Or will that just inflame the situation even more? I think Trump is playing the long game, but why aren't Walton Fry telling the people to stop being maniacs? Why is he telling ICE not to go in and do their job? It's the people that are the problem. They think with one brain. Absolutely. And this is by the George Floyd incident. They've got on the churches. His picture painted on the sides of churches. But it's the people that's the problem. It's a very small area. Well, yeah, it's a pretty small area. So the media sensationalizes it. I think Trump is just playing the long game, putting in Holman to just relieve Boni Avino. Because I needed relief. I'll never go back. That's the worst place I've been in my life. So that's what I have to say. Betsy, is that what you saw were those domestic terrorists, was that an insurrection? Were those insurrection? I know you're saying they're crazy, they're nuts, they're leftists, they're Marxists, you know, they're for indigenous rights and you're on stolen land, and you're dealing with left-wing lunatics. But what you witnessed was that an insurrection? Is that what's unfolding now in that part of Minneapolis? I think now that more people have come in and you've got more Antifa and more violence, that would be an insurrection. But still, what you're dealing with is you're not dealing with normal people who have intelligence or thought. You're dealing with one brain and it's all against the government. Betsy, chilling, chilling call. A really good reportage. I know you're back. Okay, if you remember, I talked about state attorney general Keith Ellison, the argument that he's making on behalf of Tim Walz, Stamp on Tim, and Jacob Frey, the boy wonder how when it comes to immigration, Minnesota is sovereign. They don't have to abide by federal immigration law.

or comply with federal immigration law enforcement. And I said it's clearly unconstitutional. It's black letter law. It's in the Constitution. Just very quick, because you need to hear this. This is from 781. And this is 1,000% true. By the way, you can text the Cooner Man 70470. If you want to see how illegal, how unconstitutional. How extrajudicial, okay? In other words, how seditionist, how insurrectionist, the behavior of Waltz, Fry, Ellison, and all the Democrats in Minnesota are. Listen now to this. Jeff, the Supreme Court has ruled unequivocally. about whose jurisdiction governs immigration and the status of illegal aliens. And that's the federal government, period. Two cases, one with regard to Arizona, when in 2012 Barack Obama was not enforcing the law, and the other in Texas, in 2023, when Joe Biden was not enforcing the law. The Supreme Court was crystal clear. These are the words of Justice Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the uber liberal in the majority decision. Quote, now listen to this, okay? Please, you got to hear this. The federal government of the United States has the broad, undoubted power over the subject of immigration and the status of illegal aliens. Further in the decision, this is what the Supreme Court ruled, quote, the states cannot compel how federal immigration law is enforced. In other words, in plain English, you can't pick and choose whether you're a sanctuary city, whether you want to abide by this law or that law. or whether you want ICE to come into your city or not to come into your city or which illegal aliens they can deport or can't deport, you don't have the power or the authority to do that. It's clear in the Constitution. As I said, it's black letter law. And it's not one but two Supreme Court decisions. who said the federal government has undoubted exclusive jurisdiction and power over immigration and the enforcement of immigration. So what Waltz and Fry and Ellison are doing is patently illegal. It's illegal. The only ones going rogue is them. The only ones being lawless is them. The only one that is engaged in a rebellion, the nullification using a civil war term, the nullification of the federal government, a federal authority, of federal power is Waltz, Fry, Ellison, and the radical Democrats in Minnesota. So, legally, constitutionally, never mind morally.

They don't have any ground to stand on. There's nothing to negotiate. If I'm Tom Homan, I'm going there to give them an ultimatum. Here are Trump's four demands. Either you comply by high noon or we're sending in the troops. Take your pick. 617-266-68. 68. Agree, disagree. Mark in Medford. Thanks for holding Mark and welcome. Good morning, Jeff. What you just read and how that law works is exactly what Tom Homan should tell him, okay? You know, they're full of crap fry and tampon to him. Now they say, well, we want to work with, you know, our police wants to work with ICE and, you know, get the illegal criminals. I don't know. If you wanted to do that, you would have done that right in the beginning. But no, you had people go out and protest. And you egged them on. People got killed? Well, that's too bad. First of all, you don't take a loaded gun to a rally with extra ammo, number one. So that was foolish on pretty spot. Okay? So I think Fry and Tim Walz are a boat full of crap. They're not going to help. They're not going to do anything. Mark. James Comer, as you know, Republican, a very powerful Republican, House Republican, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee on Sunday was on with Maria Bartaromo on Fox News. And he now says he's urging the president strongly to withdraw completely from Minnesota, to pull out all ICE agents. All Customs and Border Protection. Every single federal agent pulled them out of Minneapolis, pulled them out of Minnesota, essentially waived the flag of surrender. He didn't say that, but essentially. and say, you know what, send them to other jurisdictions, cities and states, that want to cooperate with the federal government to get rid and deport these dangerous violent criminal illegals, and let the people of Minnesota deal with the consequences of having to live. with murderers and rapists and drug traffickers and gangbangers in their communities because Waltz and Fry refused to have them removed. In other words, if they want a sanctuary state, let them have it and then let them deal with the criminals. The feds should pull out.

Because according to Comer, the public relations is a disaster. The shootings are hurting Trump politically and in the polls. And so he should pull out completely and let the states deal with it on their own if they don't want to abide by federal law or cooperate with ICE. What say you, Mark? Absolutely unequivocally not, Jeff. No, no, no. You just read the law, word by word. What Holman needs to do is say, listen, you abide by federal law or this is what's going to happen. The federal law and the federal police have jurisdiction over any city or state, and he also needs to tell them there is no such thing as being a sanctuary city or state. As a matter of fact, Jeff, I invite ICE. to go to a red state and we'll see what happens. You'll see nobody on the streets at the fairing. If you do, you might see people holding signs saying, thank you, ICE. Please come back again. Mark, drop the mic. And just to reinforce what you're saying because you're on fire, notice we're not seeing this problem anywhere else. Anywhere else, ICE is conducting thousands, as I speak to you now, thousands of operations in states all over, cities and states all over the country. How come it's only in Minnesota? It's the same ICE. It's the same customs in border protection. So it's clear to me, ICE is not the problem. They're not a problem anywhere else. Customs and border protection, they're not a problem anywhere else. Why? Because even in blue cities, like in Memphis, Tennessee or New Orleans and Louisiana or Austin, Texas, local authorities are cooperating with ICE. Yes, Joe Schmoe, yeah, the mass murderer that you want or the rapist that you want. The latest address we have, yep, it's, you know, whatever, I'm making up a street now. You know, 100 Johnson Street. Thank you. Can you guys just give us a little security when we move in, get a couple of cop cars so nobody interferes with us? No problem. Bang, they pick them up, it's done. Or better yet, they're in a prison or a local county jail. We want this guy. He's a, you know, a convicted child molester, an illegal alien. We want to get him. Sure, come on in. We got him in handcuffs, pick him up, scoop him and deport him. So there's no problem anywhere else. Which make to me then, if it's not a problem anywhere else, it means waltz and fry are the problem. It's so obvious. 617-26668, Dane in Florida. Thanks for holding Dane and welcome.

You're talking about snakes, Walsh, and his other sheriff. Listen, you just have to, President Trump just has to remind himself of the story he told over and over on the rally about the old woman and the snake trying to cross the river. Okay? What happened when the woman took the poor little snake across the river? It, it. bitter when it got on the other side. And the woman said, oh, why did you do that to me? I helped you, you stupid, poor woman. You knew who I was. President Trump, listen to your own stories that you told, and maybe you'll learn something by them, okay? Remember when Hitler had Stalin and told Stalin, oh, we're not going to bathe you. One of the first things he did, he invaded Russia. You're dealing with the most evil. minded, insane, like all of your clothes were so spot on today. Evil people in the world. These people are nuts. They are insane. They are criminals. They are traitors. Every bad adjective you can think of in America, that's what's running Minnesota. And they need to be stopped. They need to be stopped now. Don't waste your time. You want to send in, what's his name? Fine. 24 hours, no answer. Guess what? Send in the troops. This has to be stopped. You're going to let this go, and it's going to get out of control, and you're not going to be able to control it, President Trump. I hope your people are listening today, and I hope they're listening to you. Your show, Jeff, is the heartbeat of America. The same people, okay, the heartbeat, the real America is listening to you all over the country. You get calls from California to Florida to New York, all over the country. Listen, President Trump. Listen to the people that are talking to you to the Cooner Show today. Okay? They know what they're talking about. They're on the street. They're in the real world. They're not talking to insane, out-of-control people that are communist, that are evil. They want to destroy America. This has to be stopped. It's President Trump. Please, listen, listen. Okay, listen to your own stories you told over and over in the rally. If you are not condemned to learn from history, you're condemned to repeat it. So that's my message. This is the heartbeat of America talking. Please listen. Dane, I think you've put it very eloquently and very powerfully. And I think the president would all do respect and you know how much I love him. I think he's getting bad advice from Susie Wiles. I think he's getting bad advice from some people around him because they're showing them all these opinion polls. And they're saying this is not popular anymore. Your deportations are not popular. ICE is not popular. We're losing the public relations battle. We've got to do a reset. And I think, yeah, I do believe that ICE is losing popularity or to be more accurate that there's unhappiness with the immigration crackdown. But it's not because they're coming in too hard and too heavy. I think most people, especially MAGA, are getting frustrated and demoralized because they don't see real arrests.

Look, I'll tell you the truth. I'm not happy with the deportation policy. But I'm not saying pull out. What I'm saying is, come on, stop pussyfooting around. Stop beating around the bush. I don't want you to go weaker. I want you to go stronger and be tougher. I want you to smash these sanctuary cities. I want you to put people like Waltz and Fry in handcuffs. And I want you to come in and start really deporting them in massive record-breaking numbers. That's what we voted for. That's what the country wants. And I just, I have to say this. And you're completely right, Dane. To see the images now, and they're now everywhere. of these left-wing Antifa thugs, these professional paid agitators and fanatics, beating ice agents to a pulp, biting off their fingers, surrounding and swarming ice vehicles, smashing their windows, and then in front of their eyes, stealing their guns and their ammunition. And these are, you know, these are sophisticated guns. These are sophisticated, you know, they're like AR-15s. And they just run off with these weapons, Antifa and these Marxist anti-ice agitators, these terrorists, with all these boxes of ammunition. And they're just running off into the night. And everyone's just standing by and watching it happen. Like, do you, I mean, people are going to get massacred. Ice agents are going to get massacred. They're going to get shot. Like, how can you do this? To me, this is so outrageous on so many levels. Send in the troops now before you've got a real rebellion on your hands. Dane, thank you so much for that call. Look, very, very quick, because you need to know what's happening. So the Whipple Federal Building is a nice facility. It's basically their headquarters in Minneapolis, St. Paul, in the Twin Cities. It is now under siege and has been for weeks. And ice agents are being pelted with rocks and ice bottles, literally, which can cause you a concussion and do severe brain damage. They're being pelted with rocks. Explosives are being thrown at them, fireworks explosives, trying to burn them alive. They're attacking the building. They're surrounding the building. They're whistling all night so they can't sleep. They're hounding them from hotel to hotel, smashing windows. going in and trying to murder ice agents, security guards are being beaten up in the lobbies of these hotels. And so the Whipple Federal Building has become so unsafe. There is a fort, a military base nearby. It's called Fort Snelling. It's adjacent or very close to the Whipple Federal Building. Secretary of Defense, or Secretary of War, however you want to call him, Pete Hegseth.

has now allowed ICE and Customs and Border Protection because they made a request to go into Fort Snelling and to use it as their operating base now. And so they're using Fort Snelling to house these ice agents, to house their vehicles, to house their equipment. And so now, this is now a federal military base. It is now surrounded by thousands of these anti-ice activists and rioters. And they are chanting and screaming. Burn Fort Snelling down. Burn Fort Snelling down. They're calling now, it's like Fort Sumter. They're calling now for an attack on the U.S. government, for an attack on a U.S. military base. I don't know what to tell you anymore. Like really, after what I don't know what else to say. Now, to show you what the media, how irresponsible, the media says unforgivable, how reckless and irresponsible the media is, and how they're fanning the flames of out and out hatred, disinformation, misinformation, misinformation, propaganda, as the Russians would say. I want you to listen to this. You're not going to believe this. If I said it to you, you wouldn't believe me. So here it is. Jake Tapper, fake Tapper on This is CNN. Has this guy, Jamie Schwesendel, however you pronounce his last name. Anyway, who cares? He is the co-owner. of Moon Palace books in Minneapolis. He's one of the crazies that Betsy was talking about, one of the previous callers. Now, I want you to listen to what he's saying. And by the way, Jake Tapper never says he's wrong. He never says, dude, you got a serious screw missing. Hey, the elevator doesn't go to the top. Are you on drugs? What planet are you on? Listen to this. This is now what's being put out on the airwaves. Roll cut seven, a mic. I understand that, but they take people to Fort Snelling here, which literally was built as a concentration camp and Alligator Alcatraz, which I think we can all agree is a concentration camp. I'm not saying they're Dachau. I'm not saying they're putting people in ovens yet, but these are concentration camps. Okay. I don't need to argue with you. Yeah. It's a concentration camp. Fort Snelling is a concentration camp. And it's not Dachau yet. It's not Auschwitz yet. They're not putting them in gas ovens yet, meaning it's coming. Fort Snelling is a military base. Like...

Thousands of military bases that we have here and around the world. It houses U.S. troops and now it's housing ICE and Border Patrol agents. CNN should have this license revoked for what they just did. Because never did Jake Tapper ever say, that's a lie. But where's your evidence that this is a quote-unquote concentration camp? Show me the gas ovens. Where are people being systematically massacred and killed and murdered? Like, hey, dude, listen, lay off the weed, okay? Seriously, lay off the drugs. Because it's frying your brain. Instead, on CNN, and by the way, they're repeating it on MS now. It's the same crazies now. This is a concentration camp. These are gas ovens. You want to talk, forget pouring gasoline on the fire. You want to talk about inflammatory, incendiary, frankly, insane rhetoric. And this is being done deliberately. to stir people to become violent and to attack Fort Snelling or attack ICE agents or attack federal agents or federal buildings or federal personnel. There's no other purpose to do this than to inflame and incite. That's what this is. And CNN just stands there and like, well, and by the way, notice how coy they were. Notice how coy. Jake Topper didn't say I agree, but of course he didn't say that's wrong. Hey, I just let the guy say his peace without ever correcting him.