Where Are The No Kings Rallies Today? | 4.28.26 - The Howie Carr Show Hour 2

The man has been captured. They're going to his apartment. I guess he lives in California. And he's a sick person, a very sick person. Someone has to do it. When I say that, everyone knows exactly what I need. I want to watch him suffer. And I can't watch a dead person suffer. Why can none of you aim? It's a dangerous profession. But I don't view it that way. Look, I'm here to do a job as part of the job. Live from the Burnah Less Lethal Pistol Pistol Studio, it's Howie Car. Welcome to the Howie Car Show, 844-542-42. 617 says, What's the name of the fun facts book? Countries and Contents of the World with Fun Facts and Flags. And the easiest way to find it is just go, just type in on Amazon, S.L. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. That's the author, Cheryl Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. And it's, they have a hard cover, but the, you know, the soft cover, the one I'm holding in my hands is 1495. It's, it is kind of a fun book to have around, especially if you've got little kids. I have a feeling, you know, I could see my grandson William just picking it up and saying read. Read this. What is Lesotho? You know, just pick a country. Not a country I didn't want to visit, but, you know, it's, you might want to hear about it. 863 says, yes, the dingo. I mentioned the dingo wall, which I'd never heard of in Australia. Yes, the dingo, a dog. My favorite dog in Australia is the Tasmanian tiger. I know it's a marsupial like a kangaroo with a pouch, but it looked like a dog, and it's probably extinct, but kind of cool. It had stripes on its tail, like a tiger. That's thus the name, the Tasmanian tiger. Now people are coming up with other fun facts. 7-8-1, just a random thought. What were the years of World War 11 again? It's funny you should mention World War 11. This is a good day for federal law enforcement. Not only have James Comey and one of Anthony Fauci's top deputies been indicted, but the feds in Minnesota have been raiding a bunch more of the Somali fraud centers. Some people did something?

And one of the places they hit, the quality leering center. Yes, the quality leering center. And so I'm sure I'm not the only one to put it out, but I said, isn't the quality leering center where Ilhan Omar studied the history of World War 11? That was last year, too. I can't believe that didn't get out. Or it didn't get out into, you know, great public notice and a claim for almost over a year. I think my favorite tweet today came from Sean Davis from the Federalist. He was saying Charles III III is going to address joint session of Congress. Meanwhile, Ilhan Omar is trying to find out how 111 kings have the same name. He's Charles III III. I, I, I. And by the way, where are the no king's protesters today in D.C.? A king has taken over the White House. Did you see this? And not one single blue hair is outside on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and a walker. I don't know what's going on here. 844-542 from Officer Mark. Honest Howie's Botswana Wild Elephant Tours. They're just a human being. Yeah, I always like seeing the elephants at the circus. You'll notice that after the elephants were banned from the circuses and that Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey Circus is basically not around anymore. Maybe it isn't around at all. I think the elephants were one of the main attractions, and I know they were treated poorly and all that kind of stuff. But still, I'll bet an elephant had an easier time in a circus than he did in the wilds of Botswana. 844-542, 844-542, 844-5402-42. So about all these conspiracy theories about, oh, the shooting was a staged event. And so, of course, wouldn't you know it, Joy Reid. She's now a, the late Joy Reed, now a, now a podcaster and not exactly a Megyn Kelly or a Candace Owens or a Joe Rogan. Joy Reed on her pathetic podcast, she is now hatched a new conspiracy theory, cut seven. Don't ask any questions, even though there's just odd things that keep happening around Trump. And we know that Viktor Orban, allegedly, allegedly, according to Washington Post reporting, there was a plot by the Russians to stage an assassination, fake assassination for Viktor Orban. So all of this throws in together. You're like, when something seems too perfect people, they don't believe in it.

And Donald Trump now again gets victimized by an alleged would-be assassin in front of the perfect witnesses, the press. Is she kidding? I'm yelling at the cloud. An alleged perfect victim. So this was the CBS Morning News. I mean, and again, what's the guy's name, Major Garrett? Not one of my favorites. Just kind of a Hammondager of a network guy. But he was there. And so he's talking about all these conspiracy theories on the set of the CBS Morning News. Cut two. Something as two people that were in the room, how do you feel about all of these conspiracy theories floating around about what happened, being dismissive to what y'all went through? What happened is what happened? Yeah. Pull stop. It happened. We were there. Yeah. And I feel like people are acknowledging what happened in the room to those who experienced it. You can fill in blanks that don't exist. There are no blanks. We were there. It happened. There it happened. No blanks need to be filled in. And we saw it. We saw it. I ran over. And it's terrifying. Her husband Luther and her daughter Frankie and her parents were there and I hugged him. And that was my first thought as soon as I thought that the coast was relatively clear. I was thinking about Frankie too. Yeah. And Ouija is a star. We're glad that everybody was friends. It was okay. Yep. No doubt.

Could Joy Reed be reached for comment? Are those people in on the conspiracy? I'm yelling at the loud. Were they part of it? So Jimmy Falla, he's a Fox News guy. And so he was there. And he got picked up on a hot mic at the dinner. And he was complaining about how the security was absurd. And it's... I mean, it's not, it's kind of a misogynist what he's saying, but I think he's probably got a point here, cut three. What do they have like two random checks holding the front door open? We're not even trying anymore. It's just even, it's not even like they're not even in the term of people. It's like the girls who work here are holding the door. Even if it was the guys wouldn't even make it better. Jesus. Like, they might as well put a doorstop in. They put up a doorstop and a scarecrow. They'll be up a doorstop and a scarecrow. Again, I think he gets credit in spite of, you know, calling them chicks and all that. 8444-4-4-4-42. The late Joy Reid, that's very chem-al-like. I mean, her career is not coming down for breakfast. I didn't say, you know, that I thought she was going to be assassinated or anything like that. 609 says Joy Reed is dumber than a box of hammers. I think you're being very unkind, 609, to a box of hammers, to compare the box of hammers to Joy Reed. She went to Harvard, you know. I'm sure she did splendidly on the SATs, too. She didn't check any boxes whatsoever. 844-542-42-617, glorious day, Anthony Fauci's lieutenant and James Comey both indicted on the same day. Wonderful. The dingo ate the emails. Yeah, that's what they said. The dingo ate the emails. So this is David Morins, the guy who was indicted today, the minion of Anthony Fauci. And he's being asked by James Comer about sending these emails. Cut 1E, please. On April 21st, 21, you wrote... that Dr. Anthony Fauci is, quote, too smart to let colleagues send him stuff that could cause trouble, end quote. On June 16th, 2020, you wrote, we're all smart enough to know to never have smoking guns, and if we wouldn't put them in emails, and if we found them, we'd delete them. Now, did you ever have conversations with Dr. Anthony Fauci regarding deleting emails? I don't remember any such thing. Don't remember. No, sir. And it would be very, I, Tony and I don't have those kind of conversations. Did you, did you ever delete any official records? Not to my knowledge. I mean, but again, we're at the issue of defining what's a, what's a federal record. I deleted a lot of emails. I do it every day. But in my mind, they're trivial things not related to government business.

Mike Vrabble, did you ever make out with Diana Rossini? Not to my knowledge. Not to the best of my recollection. My preference is to say that categorically I cannot recall ever talking with anyone. To the best of my recollection, I cannot recall. Did you ever, did you ever know Dr. Anthony Fauci? I read about him in the newspapers. That, of course, is what Billy Bulger said about the Winter Hill Gang. Did you ever hear the Winter Hill Gang? I read about it in the newspapers. Did you know a serial killer named Stevie Flimmy? I believe he owned a restaurant. They dug up the floor of the restaurant in the basement looking for bodies. It was a Goodfellas-type restaurant. Only it wasn't in Howard Beach. It was in Roxbury. Mainstream media just announced that for the first time ever, there are nearly 50% more home sellers than home buyers in the U.S. There are 600,000 more home sellers than there are buyers. What can you do in this moment to get your property noticed? What can be done with your property to set it apart from the masses? The answer is easy. Conduct a voluntary auction with J.J. Manning. For over 50 years, J.J. Manning auctioneers has successfully sold for individuals, families, trusts, estates, and businesses. A J.J. Manning auction creates a competitive bidding environment, allowing the market to quickly speak and allowing you to plan your future. In a J.J. Manning auction, there are no negotiations. There are only clear auction terms. Don't list your property for sale because that's what your parents did. List with J.J. Manning for an auction and stand out from the pack. You sell as is and contingency free. You control the terms and you control the timeline. J.J. Manning has the following auctions coming up for how we grace listeners. June 11th, an estate auction of a three-bedroom home in Hanover, Massachusetts. June 18th, a five-bedroom compound in Bedford, Mass. And don't forget, Karen Reid's Lexus SUV goes on the block on May 14th at Manzi Appraisers in Woburn, Mass. If you have commercial, residential, or land to sell, contact Charlie Gill at 800 52101.1.1. Or visit J.J. Manning.com. Call Charlie today and market. Sold. I'm Howie Car. We're looking at TikTok. At Howie Car Radio Network. The name is hot. The brand is hot.

Howie Car is back. Today's poll question is brought to you by Manzi Appraisers and Restoration in Woburn. Come to Manzi Appraisers in Woburn Thursday, May 14th from 2 to 5 p.m. for a live broadcast remote of my show. Bring your special heirloom to get a value from Dave Mansey. And watch Justin Manning from J.J. Manning auctioneers, auction off Karen Reed's SUV. And of course, I'll have copies of my book, Mass Corruption, Volume 1, The Cops for Sale. Thursday, May 14th, from 2 to 5 at Manzi Appraisers, 22 Prospect Street in Woburn. You're invited. Jared, what's the poll question? What are the results thus far? Today's poll question, which you can vote in at howie carshow.com, is which deep state bureaucrat would you most like to see behind bars? John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey, Anthony Fauci, David Morrance, or Christopher Ray. They were all worthy of a good long stretch in Durant's vile. But I'm voting for Anthony Fauci. He's the worst. Anthony Fauci is in the lead at 50%, 22% for James Comey, 20% for John Brennan, 4% for Clapper, 3% for Ray, and 1% for David Morrins. Of course, none of us had ever heard of David Morrins until today. I mean, maybe we should have because he was, you know, lying his rear end off. Oh, excuse me, he was not recalling in front of Congress, but still. I mean, it's understandable. He was just the... He was only following quarters of his fear. Herr Dr. Anthony Fauci. Bill, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, Bill. Hi, How are you? How are you? Good. All right. Since I've retired, I took up a new hobby, reading book. And I've been reading books about the mafia, which is fascinating. But the last two books that I've read, one's called, it's a Robert F. Kennedy Jr. book, Ask Not. Yeah. And I tell about the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. men. And what these men did it to their women, it's shameful. They should be in jail. And I just finished reading a book, A Laptop from Hell. How the Biden family. None of them in jail. Right. I didn't know why. Bill, they all got pardoned on the way out the door by dementia jail. Yeah, but I didn't realize Billy Bulger's son was involved with Hunter Biden and John Kerry's stepson. They were also invited. And they're walking free. I just don't understand it. I know. You know, I've never been able to find out. I've talked to so many people trying to find out with Billy Bulger's son. It's the son named Jimmy, too, isn't it? The one that's named after Whiting. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what his connection is.

And Joe Biden's brother, he should be in jail. Oh, yeah. He lives down here. Well, there's two of them. And you know what? Both of them should be in jail. But the one that lives down here is the really bad. He lives in Del Rey Beach. And then there's another one. I don't think he's the one. There's another one who actually killed somebody in, you know, at a crazy driving in Southern California. And he got the survivors, the estate of the person who was killed. got a million dollar judgment from Biden. And of course, the Bidens have, none of the Bidens ever pay their bills or pay anything. They're America's guests. And so this guy, this Biden brother owes a million dollars, probably more than probably. twice that with interest now because he hasn't paid for all these years. I mean, they're terrible. I hope you'll read my mafia books and my mob books and also my Robert F. Kennedy Jr. books, Bill. The Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Babylon volumes one and two. There's a lot of stuff in there. And yeah, they were pretty terrible to women. No doubt about it. 844-542. Didn't Anthony Fauci get a hunter-esque pardon? Yes, he did come to think of it. But all you do is bring him in. You bring him in, you know, didn't Rand Paul say he was, you know, Rand Paul is the chairman of a Senate committee, he could just subpoena him, bring him in, and ask him some obvious questions and get him to lie. I think Todd Blanche would be available to consult with him on what he needs to say. And so, and if he wants to take the Fifth Amendment, let's just have him take the Fifth Amendment. You know, remember Anthony Fauci with the, they had the candles, like motive candles or, you know, like Catholics do for saints to pray. And he, and he, like he was a saint. It was the same thing with Mueller. You know, they had all Mueller prayer cloths. Remember that stuff? I didn't put Mueller on the list because he's not coming down for breakfast anymore. 844-542. 42. 201. The only person I wouldn't want to pay the price for trying to destroy Trump is Nancy Pelosi. But again, she was like Schiff. She's a politician. This is the bureaucrats lane.

I'm Howie Carr. Live from the Burner Less Lethal Pistol Pistol Studio, it's Howie Carr. You know, I've made sport over the years of all the people who've been listed as the most influential Bostonians by Boston Magazine, which is now basically out of business. It's owned by the Boston Globe. It's just an adjunct. to sell a few ads. If it were making it, if it were worth anything, they never, the owners never would have sold it to the globe for a dime, a nickel and a dime. But anyway, so we always laugh, you know, they're always putting people on the, as the most influential Bostonians right before they get indicted or right before they get fired in disgrace. Like Monica Cannon Grant, for instance. Or, uh, or Rachel Rollins or just the endless, endless numbers of them. Well, May 26, the new issue of Boston Magazine's 150 most influential Bostonians is now on the stands. Do you know who's on the cover? Jared, would you like to take a guess? Oh, boy. It's pretty obvious, given the events of the last couple of weeks, the last week or so. The guy that tried to shoot Trump? No, no, local. Oh, okay. Maura Healey? Mike Vrable. The curse continues. And he's also on there with Drake May, the UNC bread quarterback, who's okay. But he's, he's, uh, they, he's, uh, they, he's, uh, Mike Vrable is on the cover. So the, the curse continues. They, I wonder if they, they, I wonder how this will go over at Doyle's Irish pub in Easton. I think, um, I've been hearing lately that Mike Vrable in his playing days used to hang out there a lot in his quest for. Well, I don't know. You know what it's questing for. At Doyle's Irish pub and Easton. But anyway, that's the latest. And by the way, I think there may be another person in the 150 that could be embroiled in something fairly soon. I'll say no more. I'll say no more. I'll say something when it happens, though. 844-4-4-4-4-42. So let me play another David Morin's cut. This is the guy who was indicted today, the guy who worked with, who was Anthony Fauci's deputy. And they were all trying to cover up all their emails back and forth, how they were collaborating with the communist Chinese, the red Chinese, or excuse me, Chinese scientists. Cut 1D.

So Dr. Anthony Fauci was always a big defender of EcoHealth and their right to receive federal funding? I can't speak for him. I think he had great respect for them. And when the grant problems came about, I think he was troubled by it. In fact, I just, let me just. He was troubled. I just thought of something that I've forgotten to say. At some point, somebody, it may not have been Tony, but it might have been Hugh AlkenClaas. Somebody said to me, you know, Peter's his own worst enemy because he made some mistakes on that grant. I would say that's a factual statement. His own worst enemies. He's trying to create a monster virus that's going to kill millions of people. I mean, I'm not a scientist. I'm not a biologist, but I don't understand what the value of creating such monster viruses is. Nor does Rand Paul, for that matter, who's an ophthalmologist. He is an MD. And I think there was a good reason in this case why Congress said, you know, you can't be using this money for, what do they call it, gain of function research? Gain function of what? Function to kill human beings? 844-542. Let's play some more of these. Let's play another one of these cuts. This is cut 1A. James Comer is asking the questions. He's the guy with a Southern accent, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee from Kentucky. Cut 1A. And as you've said, you previously testified that you did not delete any federal records. But on February 24th, 2021, you wrote, quote, I learned from our FOIA lady here how to make emails disappear after I'm FOIAed, but before the search starts. So I think we are all safe. Plus, I deleted most of those earlier emails after sending them to Gmail, end quote. And the next day on February 25th, 2021, you wrote, quote, but I learned the tricks last year from an old friend, Marge Moore, who heads our FOIA office and also hates FOIAs, end quote. Yes or no. Is Marge Moore the FOIA lady you were referring to? She was at the time. I believe she's retired since then. Did the NIH FOIA office instruct you on how to delete emails or avoid FOIA? No.

Pay no attention to what I wrote in those emails. And by the way, the foia lady hated foias? That's interesting. Did the short order cook hate hamburgers or pancakes? 844-542. Where's Alex Cora on the Boston Magazine? You know what? I didn't see him. I'm going to go back during the next break and see if he made the list. Like I said, there's at least one other person who I think could be in the soup in the next week to 10 days. But I'll leave it at that. 844-542-42. Mr. Garcia, go ahead. I want to hear that music. Listen, I want to ask you a question. JD, I don't care if J.D. or Michael Marco Rubio is a front leader to run for president in 2028. I believe he's not going to be so strong. I said Donald Trump. How Donald Trump is amazing. Many people want to kill him. And I don't know, J.D. or Michael Marco Rubio, you're going to be a weak precedent. It's not going to be strong. I said, Donald Trump, you know that. Yeah, but I mean, you know, sometimes not everybody can come up to the standards of an immortal. I mean, who succeeded Bear Bryant as the coach of Alabama? Who succeeded Vince Lombardi as the coach of Green Bay? You know, I mean, you can't always have the best guy around. Thanks for the call, Mr. Garcia. James, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, James. You there, James? I wanted to talk to him. He said, why are you picking on Mike Rabel? Because he's on the cover. Because he's the latest example of Boston Magazine trying to lionize these people who have feet of clay more than somewhat, shall we say. So far I don't see, so far I'm not running into Alex Cora, but we'll find him somewhere along there. I don't know if he's there or not. 844-542. Eddie, you're next with Highway Car. Go ahead, Eddie. Hi, Howard. You mentioned about bringing Fouchy before Congress, you know, maybe Comus Committee. I don't think he can plead the fifth of Howard if he's got immunity. You know what? That's true. He can't plead the fifth. And so then it's just a question of does he commit perjury? And, you know, you can lay a perjury trap pretty easily. Then they got him. Yeah. The question is, would a jury convict him, though, Eddie, or would they say, oh, well, you know, of course it was a hoax, and, you know, it destroyed the economy and destroyed millions of lives, but it was necessary to do to defeat Donald Trump. So we're going to give him a pass and vote not guilty. I think that's what would happen in a district of Columbia, a federal jury, don't you? Well, don't charge them there. Do what the Democrats who will pick some jury in Nebraska or something. Yeah.

No, I would, that's what I would try. If they could, I think they would try to do that. But of course, his lawyers, and he'd have the best law fair lawyers there are. Soros and those guys would raise, raise him tens of millions of dollars. And they would say, oh, we can't, we can't try him. They're trying to frame him in a red jurisdiction. These crackers in Alabama don't understand science. They don't. follow the science like we do. You already, you know this style. You know how it works. That's the, that's the way it always goes. Thanks for the call, Eddie. 844-542-42, 844-5402-42. So this was Andy Ogles. I think it's how you pronounce it. He's a Republican from Tennessee. And he was at the White House Correspondent dinner on Saturday night. And he claims he heard a reporter saying that they hope that Trump was killed. And I have no reason to doubt him. But I think he owes it to everybody. to tell us who this reporter was. And if he knows it's a reporter, he probably knows her name. I think it's her name. But this is what a reporter, according to a congressman from Tennessee, Andy Ogles, was saying as she was under the table. Cut six. There was a reporter. I probably shouldn't say this, but I'm going to say it. There was a reporter in the room who was under a table. And when the shots went off and everybody's hiding, She said, I hope they killed the orange MF. That was a journalist in the room who was hoping that when she stood up, the president of the United States would be dead. So I'm coming to a public venue where I know it might be hostile to expose myself to an honest dialogue, an open dialogue. And if you ask me a question and I don't have an answer, I will get you something in writing, or we can talk on the phone. But when you have members of the press, openly. Enticing, hoping, talking about killing the chief executive officer of this country. Again, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, I don't care. That's a problem. What did she say? I hope they killed the Orange MF.

I wonder where she, does she work at the Washington Post or the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal? It could be any of them. Lisa, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, Lisa. Hi, Howie. Hi. I just, I called yesterday, so I feel like a stalker. But I have to just, I have to like pound this point. The Secret Service. Secret Service have got to get their, you know, what, together? Because it's, you know, this is like, there are so many people after Trump that, okay, the left ring loons, you got the trans mafia, you got the climate cult, you got the terrorist huggers, you got the, you got the, you know, the other just mentally ill, don't take their meds people. So he, they have got to, like, tighten up. I mean, I know Trump likes to, like, like, go to places and like be himself and like be free but you can't do that anymore you cannot do that anymore he has two years left in this office and he needs to he needs to fulfill these two years and to have four people five people in the succession line in that room and not have good security i am not happy i am incensed over this i'm not it's unforgivable howie I can't believe that they didn't have a survivor like they do with the State of the Union, Lisa. I mean, it does seem crazy that they would do this. And it seems like there was no security either. And I guess one of the Secret Service agents fired five shots at this guy in an enclosed area and didn't hit him once. I mean, I thought all law enforcement had to take... Target practice, range, work out on the range, at least, you know, a few times a year, didn't you? Dear God, I can't. I know, I know. I just can't. I can't. I remember going back to when I was working on the Whitey Watch for the FBI, just, you know, just share, they give, they would give me information from my book and then I would set up this website to try to suck Whitey in from wherever he was. And, you know, and we would keep an eye on who was coming into the website. And some days the guy would say, I can't, I can't meet you for my weekly drop off of stuff because I have to do, I'm doing. practice on target practice on the on the range and I I don't understand that I mean how could how can this guy still be alive and they and I don't think they know have they really told us whether or not he really got off any shots that he did he did he shoot the Secret Service agent or did or was it friendly fire You know, there's been a lot of, I mean, people say Robert F. Kennedy Jr. could have been shot by one of the, by one of the guards.

We know Huey Long back in 35, the senator running for president, Louisiana. He was not killed by that doctor, Bari Weiss. He was killed by one of his security guards. It's happened a lot. There's been some Israeli soldiers have been killed by friendly fire. Well, the three planes, nobody was killed, but the three U.S. planes were killed by Kuwaiti friendly fire. It happens. 844-542-844-542-402-603 says, not perjury. Anthony Fauci will just claim the faulty memory of an old man. Biden got away with that, but he was the president, and I'm not sure that. Probably Anthony Fauci could get away with it, unfortunately. I think you may be right. 844-542. I'm Howie Carr. Howie Car will return. Maui car is back. 844-500, 4242-42. 508 says, so Anthony Fauci will use the Uncle Leo defense from Seinfeld. I think we'll use a more recent defense, which is the Uncle Joe defense from the White House. I mean, that's why they didn't indict. That's why the special prosecutor in the Joe Biden documents that he kept in the garage that Hunter had access to, that was his defense. He was, he was. basically senile. The fact is that I don't remember. He didn't use the S word, but that's what it boiled down to. That's why Biden was so angry, came out that night and proceeded to prove to everybody that everything that the special prosecutor had said was true and it probably was understated. Remember what he mixed up? He mixed up, what, Egypt and Mexico. Something doesn't happen very often mixing up the countries of Egypt and Mexico, but he did. 860 next time a liberal asks why we need more than 10 rounds for our gun. Remember the Secret Service fired five shots and missed. Yeah, I don't think it was good. I mean, I understand it's not like the movies. I get it. But still. There was a lot of security around. The guy had a long rifle. He ran a long gun. He ran down the hallway like 20, 30 yards, and nobody could take him out. Bob, you're next with Highway Car. Go ahead, Bob. Yeah, Howie, I don't, after Butler, I said to myself, I says, you know, the Trump family, they should hire their own security guards like the rock stars have because they are just, I don't know what's going on with a Secret Service, something. But if I had their money, I would have my own guys. I mean, that is dropped down debt. That's exactly what I would do. And why they don't do what I don't understand.

Boy, that would be such a slap in the face, though, of the Secret Service, Bob, if you brought in your own people. I mean, I know you tried to stay alive and all that, but, I mean, shouldn't, I mean, and shouldn't the president's detail be the cream of the crop of the Secret Service? Yeah, but look what happened in Butler, and they're just so lucky. I know, but that, I mean, but a lot of the thing at Butler, that was Kim Cheatel, you know, Jill Biden's, you know, stooge. And she, she, she, she didn't assign enough agents. They had four times as many agents at Jill Biden's appearance at a closed.