Tom Shattuck: Vance In Maine Talking Fraud | 5.15.26 - The Grace Curley Show Hour 1

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Not so happy with the legacy media who have been ignoring it. Oh, that was a great moment. You know, it seemed to me, and I wasn't in the room like you were, that this was almost like a first responder arrival. Because, you know, with the reporting that you've been doing, the fetism's been doing, that we've been breaking up there, there's a serious, serious problem. There's a bunch of serious problems in Maine. But this fraud is an absolute DefCon 1. situation, and it felt like that the crowd there was relieved that help was on the way. Am I right? Yeah, absolutely, because they've been seeing this. It's, I mean, it's very obvious when you look at the fraudulent businesses, what they're doing. So they're relieved that finally something might be done to stop millions and millions of their dollars being sent to illegal immigrants who then make their money and fly off to Turkmenistan. And Mill certainly hasn't been doing anything on this. She's actually been working actively to hinder investigations or hinder any enforcement activity because in her most recent budget, she signed a provision that essentially will force... state taxpayers to pay for any federal funding that's cut from these places if the federal government determines that they're fraud and cuts them off. Yeah, let's play that cut, actually. It's cut 17. And I thought it was very interesting. And a lot of people don't know this. And JD Vance didn't really know this yesterday. That that's what Mills is doing a workaround to get people Medicaid money if the feds cut her off. Seamus Oathot with the main wire. In the recent budget, Janet Mills and the Democrats enshrined, essentially protections for fraudsters. If they get their federal funding cut, the state will pay for them. How do you think that that can be fought on the federal level without just taking those currently diffuse costs and putting them even more directly onto the main taxpayers? Well, I had not heard of that. Unfortunately, it doesn't shock me. And I think that this is where when we talk about what can you do, what is my advice to you in order to stop the fraud? Advice number one is throw the people that enable the fraud, the hell out of office. They're not worthy of your support. And it's going to keep happening unless we kick him out of office.

But the answer is we have a number of tools of the federal government to force compliance with our anti-fraud statutes and anti-fraud provisions. We're working very hard, again, to work with these states, but if the states aren't going to work with us, we're going to force them to comply with the anti-fraud mandate. It's very simple. We're going to use those tools at every step of the way. I don't, frankly, care whether the... far-left politicians in this or that state try to protect the fraudsters. We're not going to protect him under the Trump administration, and that is my solemn promise to every person in the state. Isn't that nice to hear? Isn't that nice to hear? Just like the earnestness that this guy brought there. Let me ask you something just taken aside for a second, Seamus. I haven't talked to too many vice presidents. I think maybe none. Were you nervous? Um, I was somewhat nervous, but mostly just because I didn't want to mess up my wording and embarrass myself on, uh, in a live event. Yeah, I used a fancy word in there too. I would have thrown that right out and never been able to find it right in the, uh, when I needed it. So another part of yesterday that I really loved, um, was, uh, the protesters outside. And this woman, this woman, to me, this woman. absolutely is a quintessential, emotionally broken leftist that we're dealing with. You get them in Massachusetts, Maine, Connecticut, you see them all over the place. This is cut eight. And listen to this woman says this literally cut eight, and she means it. You guys, I don't muff from me, but you guys, especially if you go down south, the southern Maine, like, or go down east, okay? You raise your kids this way. You raise your kids to be just as ignorant, but when it's displayed, oh my God, we can't have that. You raise your kids to be racist. You raise your kids in this state to do it. Don't tell me you don't. I live in my lower. The first KK. March was in broad daylight, the largest in the nation. I live in Milo where they take pride in the KKK. Don't come out and say grand platinum did something different than any other Mainer. But he grew up and he realized that what he did was wrong. He grew up. Most of you don't. Most of the racists don't. That's the difference between him and anyone else. James, he grew up apparently last year. Yeah, I appreciate the implication that all Mainers have secret Nazi tattoos. That's pretty funny, and that you're all secretly, everyone in Maine, all of us are secretly indoctrinating our children with Nazi propaganda and teaching them to be KKK members. Yeah, it's, among other things, it's the ROI on Nazism in 2026 is not great. Most people are trying to get their kids to stay off screens for five seconds and eat and stop, in my case, and have kids stop writing on the walls of every wall in my house. But shame is.

She believes this. This is not a hyperbole for her. She literally believes this. And she's not the only one. Those people out there with the inflatable furniture, they all believe that they're Nazis and that we're all part of it. Yeah, absolutely. And there was another woman who I spoke to who was talking about the ICE agents wearing masks and saying that they were kidnapping people and taking them to concentration camps. And I tried pretty hard to get a straight answer from her about why she thinks that ICE detention facilities are concentration camps. And she could not give me a clear answer on that. Yeah, no. I mean, they literally, we've, you've seen them. Didn't you get one of the whistles at one point? We've had, we've got in Massachusetts and Maine and Connecticut, those to start, those are all within the how he's up in markets here. They literally, there are people looking around saying there are brown shirts going and kidnapping innocent people. These are the same people. Like that woman, you know that she tells her children, if she has children, she tells her children that, look out, little Johnny, probably some of your black and brown friends are going to go missing soon because the mean guy in the Oval Office is doing it. So they live this life and believe every part of it. And it would be fine if they didn't pollute other people, including their own kids. Yeah, absolutely. They definitely, they are certainly teaching their children this and just traumatizing their children. It's the same people who were traumatizing their children saying if you don't walk, if you walk outside without a gas mask on in 2020, you're going to die. Yeah. It's the same people. It's amazing. Up where I live, there's a, um, there's this bear on the side of the road. It's a sculpture of a bear. It's a wooden, like a fun sculpture of a bear. And for the guy who owns it as a big progressive, and during COVID, he made it into the Grim Reaper and said, oh, I'm coming for you because you didn't take your vaccine. And the bear, right where that is is a school bus stop. So all the little kids had to see that. So they got the message that they're going to die. Now, the Grim Reaper's coming for them unless they get their fouchy-ouches. I mean, you've been covering this stuff. It's just getting worse. Yeah, they do this on so many issues. It seems like at some point you would want to take a step back and think if I'm on the side that one of our main political pushes is scaring children, whether it be COVID vaccines, the climate change stuff or that ICE is going to arrest everybody you know who isn't white.

If you're the side that's primarily using scaring children as a tactic, maybe you're the bad guy. Imagine that. Imagine that. Yeah, if you're in the side of where you're wrestling with law enforcement, maybe you've done something wrong. Maybe it's not a natural thing to wrestle law enforcement and try to run over them. But these Democratic politicians egg this on. They encourage people. Get out there. Get out in the streets and engage. And then they act as if when they're, when the, when the, um, when the lesbian poet tries to run over a cop and he shoots her, they act as if, you know, this, uh, that ice just snuffed somebody out, uh, wantonly, you know, uh, on the streets. So they use this, like they encourage the behavior to the left and then they use the narrative to encourage more behavior and to scare people to voting for them. Yeah, absolutely. And I think we see the fruits of that in the protests where I thought it was relatively smaller than I was expecting, but I think they sent an elite squad because there was one man there who had this entire anti-Trump shrine set up, including... toilet paper printed with Trump's face on it. And I asked him how he managed to compile all of this. And he told me he spent years of hard labor investing in this anti-Trump paraphernalia. Well, Seamus, how do you suppose he was able to do that while also working a full-time job? He said that he did have a full-time job, so I don't know what he was doing there on a Thursday morning at 9.30 a.m. I think that's why it took him years. Yeah, possibly barista work is occupying the rest of his time. So, JD Vance was good. Paula Page was good. Down the street, Shanna Bellows, if you guys don't remember Shanna Bellows, she's the Secretary of State of Maine. She just recently. made a rule that federal unmarked cars couldn't remain unidentifiable so that, you know, it'd be easier to attack them. And she's the one to try to keep Trump off the ballot. She, by dictate, decided that in 2024 that Donald Trump wasn't allowed to be in the ballot in Maine. She seemed to be, she seemed to be giving a speech yesterday in front of, what I assume was an piece of unfinished IKEA furniture. What was she doing? She was giving a counter speech to JD Vance's anti-fraud address with, I think she was with Jordan Wood and state auditor Matt Dunlap, who has himself previously identified and acknowledged fraud. So I don't know what he was doing there, but it's the old thing. Mills did it in her post-speech statement where they just, they essentially say, no, actually, Maine is great at stopping fraud. We don't know. You're just lying. Well, Seamus Othot of the Maywire, before I let you go, remember, according to WGME, the CBS affiliate in Maine, it's alleged fraud in Maine. None of this stuff is, it's all vapor. It's just alleged. Oh, of course. That's why they shut off Gateway Community Services billing. Yeah. There's going to be a lot more alleged fraud being exposed as well. Thanks to the good work of Seamus Othot, and my colleagues over at the Mainwire. Shamis, thank you, my friend.

All right. When we get back, we're going to have some more great audio. Some of the stuff that you've already heard, so I've got some new stuff, too, that you haven't heard. It's an exciting day. I kind of feel like we're turning the corner here on progress and absurdity. The number is 8444-542-8-44-542. My name is Tom Shattuck. I'm in for Grace Curly. This is The Grace Curly Show. Watch the show live. Rumble.com slash the Grace Curley Show. This is the Grace Curley Show. Good afternoon. It was kind of a nice day. It needs to stop raining for 10 seconds so I can mow my lawn. What's left of my lawnmower? You and me too, buddy. Oh, I've missed the window, man. And now my thing doesn't... It doesn't drive, so I have to push it in the grass is heavy. Oh, no. Oh, come on. When it drives, it's night and day. It's a pleasure. Pushing it is a... I feel your pain. One of my cup holders is a crack in it, so... I'm an advanced age. Yeah, the beer gets flat very quickly on my rider. I've got a rider. It's just a monument to riders because it's broken in my lawn, and I'm not a real man, so I don't know how to fix it. Today's poll question is brought to you by Local Silver Mint, located in Ware, New Hampshire. Silver Dave will work with you directly. Contact him at localsilvermin.com. Taylor, what is the poll question and what are the results thus far? Today's poll question, which you can vote in at Grace Curley Show.com, is what's the biggest fraud state? Maine, Minnesota, or California. Oh, this is tough. This is tough. Obviously, California's got the biggest population, and it's been overridden for a long time. Minnesota's got the governor who's very masculine, and the mayor of Minneapolis, who's also very masculine, who enjoys Somali food. But then Maine is also just riddled. It's... It's unrecognizable. And flown under the radar for so long. Yes. Yeah. And they're entrenched. Oh, people have made so much money. New Mainers have made a lot of money. I'm going to, you know what? I'm going with Maine. Zero percent say Maine. What? 69% say California. 31% say Minnesota. No, no, no, no. No. It is everywhere. It is thorough and everywhere in Maine. And, yeah, I mean, just talk about the reason why these administration, the Trump administration, calls Steve Robinson is that it's everywhere in Maine and there's only one journalistic outfit that's going and blowing it all up. 844-542. I've noticed that there's, we got a text message that there's an explosion in Maine. We are covering that as we speak. Let's go to cut nine. This is John Featherston asked JD Vance a question. And I think JD Vance is just so absolutely on it. Cut nine. Oh, is it? Oh, is it John Featherston? Oh, I'm sorry about that. Where is the other one?

Okay, let's do cut 12. This is JD Vance talking about the origin story of why he's in Maine, really. If you look at the illegal immigrant communities who have taken benefits that ought by rights go to the people in this room, what you have in Maine is a festering problem where people have been taken advantage of and they've been stolen from and your government hasn't done anything about it. You ask yourself, why did Maine go from a state that did not have a serious fraud problem to one where I can honestly say it's one of the worst states in the union and I'll give you two answers and two politicians? Number one is Janet Mills and number two is Joe Biden. And thankfully, thankfully, one of them has already been kicked to the curb. 8444-542. Right back with your phone calls. And JD Vance. My name is Tom Schedding. The Grace Curley Show is on the air.

844-542. That is a number. I am Tom Shattuck in for Grace today. Interesting. Interesting stuff going on. The Mainwire, by the way, does have... I'm trying to do an ad for the Mainwire. It's just that I got a text about it, and they do have that story covered in Maine. A huge explosion up there. Searsmont, the lumber mill. Exactly. A reported silo explosion in Searsmont on Friday morning. Triggered a massive emergency response with first responders from multiple departments rushing to the scene. It made reports of numerous injuries and a mass casualty incident. That's terrible. Good. God, I hope everybody. I hope they can get the help they need. 8444-4-4-42. We can go to the phones. Let's go to, who is that? Let's go to Lisa. Hey, Lisa, what's going on? Good. Good. I'm glad you're filling in for grace. You're doing a great job. But I wanted to just make the contrast between what I think is the crux of the issue, which is the fraudulent Medicaid fraudulent things increased ever since COVID. Yep. But whatever. Okay, so I think that whatever, the difference between the foreign born and the native born is the natives kind of feel guilty after like a few applications. The foreign born don't have any loyalty. They don't have any concern. They don't have any guilt. They don't have the same kind of. like guilt and things that the native-born people would have. They would think, okay, native-borne people would think, okay, we're going to get caught, A, B, this ain't good, and C, you know, we shouldn't do this. But the foreign borne are thinking, okay, let's see how much we can get for the next application, the next application, the next application, and they keep doing it, and it keeps going because the... The Medicaid and the government never checks. They don't check, and they surely don't check to see if you're foreign or native-born, and not that that should matter, but they don't care. The government doesn't care. Well, Lisa, I think a couple of things are happening. I think you're getting to what would be considered in many progressive circles, a forbidden conversation. But, yeah, a lot of these new Mainers do not have American values. They don't have Judeo-Christian values. They can care less. They come from places in Africa where you would absolutely defraud the government by default. And they don't feel like you and I, if we got in a position here where we would defrauding Medicaid, we got to go to our kids soccer game and stand next to other parents. And you don't want to feel like a disgrace or rip those people off so you're connected to the community. But the community has been imported in Maine. And so they're not pinging off of. um you know off of uh native born uh manors they're peeing off each other new manors and unfortunately it's become a problem you're right i've never seen at all once and i've watched dozens of interactions any any bit of

of, you know, sorrow or any contrition by any of these fraudsters at all. As a matter of fact, I don't see them really gloating either. They're almost like sociopathic. They just don't, they have zero feeling of empathy about what they're doing and they have zero compassion. A lot of times they're supposed to be helping people in home health care situations and they could care less. You know, when reporters go in there. and disrupt them, they just feel put out, and bothered by it. So yeah, it is definitely a problem. And yes, I mean, you can trace the whole thing back to, you know, Obamacare and then expanding Obamacare and all the states saying, hey, we'll just come on, the more the merrier. And in Maine, much like Minnesota now, you've got a solid Democratic voting bloc. So the Democrats look the other way. And they look the other way. to the extent where I'm amazed that they're able to do it. And so if there's a bunch, in Lewiston, Maine, there's been a bunch of shootings this year. We report on these shootings. We've had reporters now talk to Lewiston City Councilors and say, hey, can you just, can you react to the shooting? Now, that should be easy enough. React to the shooting is not a gotcha question. It's actually a layup question. What I have to do is come out with some double-speak political... you know, generality, you know, some generic statement. But they won't answer anything. They won't talk to the press at all. We had Graham Platner, the oyster farmer, which was not really an oyster farmer. But we had him, we asked him to react to a shooting two weeks ago, didn't say a word. Can you just react to the shooting? You're running to be a senator and to represent the entire state. One of 100 in the U.S. Senate, and you can't react to a shooting. No word. Nope. They just simply won't talk. It's more than obtuse. These people have just become downright. They've just lost it. They're disconnected. This is not the old days when a Democrat was somebody who just wanted bigger government. These people are true believers in progressivism. It's this weird post-Marxist brutalism that they love. And the chaos, they find to be of utility. So we're way past Rahm Emanuel saying don't let a good emergency go to waste. These people create the emergencies, and then they react to it with overreach. And then repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. And they were big time empowered by COVID. We all saw it. You saw it? I saw it. You saw that these people, the Board of Health in your town put police tape around a merry-go-round, or not a merry-go-round, the playground? Like, police tape? My kid wasn't allowed to use the slide in 2020? Really? For what? You made all the little kids in the softball team wear masks and, like, inhale, you know, the mask became filthy and they couldn't breathe? All these people got just wildly drunk with power, and it doesn't take much. You're just talking to somebody about this. You can have a supervisor at work who has a little bit of power, and they exercise it immediately, and they get a high from it. Well, Democrats have always been in your business, and they love the power. They love the power, and that's why you can't have a football team. They didn't even the Sachems anymore.

because they can take that from you. Now, they don't care about the Sachems. They don't really care about what's happening with Indians. They care about that you care about the Sachems, and they're going to take that from you. So now, you know, I grew up in Winchester. We used to have the Sachms. We can't have it anymore because a bunch of blow-in progressives said, no, you can't have that. You can't have that because you were mean to the Indians and we're on stolen land. Now, of course, if you're living in Winchester, your house is probably minimum worth at least a million and a half dollars. They're not giving back the stolen land. They're keeping that land. And they're keeping the Beamer and the Range Rover. And they're keeping the refurbished Victorian house. They're not giving back anything but they're taking from you the sachems. That's just how these people operate. By the way, that reminds me. Last time I was in for Howie, I think. I had said, and we got some great calls on it. I had asked, it said that my sister-in-law is moving to Massachusetts. They live in D.C. right now, and she has a good job. She's going to relocate with her husband and one-year-old baby to Massachusetts. Last time I asked you, where in Massachusetts should they move to them? We got some good suggestions. One of them was Uber and Mass. There's a few others as well. Although, you know, any house in Massachusetts, we've been helping them look for houses. And everything, if it's, it doesn't matter where it is, if it's in Redding or Groveland, Massachusetts, it's a million. Amazing, like, how expensive things are here. But just thinking about, why would you live in Massachusetts at all now? Why are we doing this? You've got somebody with a rifle in Memorial Drive, just blasting away? Who the, you know, the justice system, the legal system, master's system, let go, let them right out, there you go, see him, who had to run in with cops before. And this is commonplace. You have all these sexual assaults happening and these people just get paroled and, you know, judges are letting all these people go. I don't think that she should, that that young family should move here at all. Have you ever been to Kensington, New Hampshire? It's beautiful. It's beautiful. And it's America up there. And there's American flags. And you're allowed to like the country. And nobody's going to suck your kid into the rainbow room in school. Unlike the public school that my kids go to, there's a rainbow room in the elementary school and the high school and the middle school. What is this? Why live here at all? The move is New Hampshire. If you can escape New England at all, then get down to North Carolina. But no way. No way paying a million dollars for a house up here? No. No, New Hampshire's got to be the move. I can't imagine, like, why not? If you have a reason, make your pitch for Massachusetts to me. 844-542-42. 844-542-4-542. I can't think of a pitch for Massachusetts. There's the beach. New Hampshire has about 15 miles of beach. Maine has a lot of beach. And again, Maine's not America anymore.

But, I mean, how good are our beaches anyway? I know the crane's beach is nice and singing beaches nice, but it doesn't compare, like, with the really good beaches of the world. No. My new suggestion to my sister-in-law is... Go to New Hampshire and live like an American. Sure, you're going to have to get a snowblower, but that is life. 844-542. That is the number. When we get back, we're going to have a little bit of Brandon Gill, who is just fantastic, fantastic. Grace played in how he played a little bit of the sheriff being, sorry, the Commonwealth Attorney Steve Descano being grilled. by Jim Jordan and some other people. Well, a couple of Brandon Gilguts here, too, are just fantastic. He's like the best guy. Howie's been trying to get him. I thought Dinesh DeSuzzo was going to get him for Howie. 8444-542. Right back with your phone calls. My name is Tom Shattuck. This is The Grace Curly Show. More of the Grace Curly show up next.

This is the Grace Curley Show. Why? You're a man of impeccable musical taste. There's no way that is from your collection. Uh, no, I don't think so. I, I curated all these songs for Grace's Taste. Oh, I see. Ooh, what an indictment. That's a tough one. That's Lowrider, right? A new version of, or a different... No, that was Funky Town. Oh, okay, okay. Well, what I know. Uh, okay. 8444-542, 8444-542. 42. That is the number. I want to hit this Brandon Gill audio. Brandon Gill, you know him. He is a Republican from Texas, young, dashing, handsome, smart young man who's just totally not intimidated to go after people. And he's just a one-man wrecking crew. And he's become the most viral thing out there. We'll go to Cut 18. This is him with Virginia Commonwealth Attorney Steve Descano. better understand how you weigh an illegal aliens immigration status whenever you're making charging decisions do you do you know who under Jose Cortez Mendes is are you familiar with that case Yes, sir. Okay, this is a Guatemalan illegal alien who was arrested in March of 2024. He was initially charged with, quote, carnal knowledge of a 13 to 14 year old. Just for those of us who aren't lawyers, can you describe just very briefly what does carnal knowledge of a 13 to 14 year old mean in this context? Well, sir, generally the... A charge like that would typically refer to underage sex. Okay, so we raped an underage person, an illegal alien who raped an underage American. Your office reduced those charges to a misdemeanor charge of consensual sex with a child, 15 years and older. You offered him a 90-day suspended jail sentence. Is that correct? Sir, based on the evidence that we had in the case. So it is correct. But it's not related to the policy, sir. So that is correct. I just want to ask you, whenever you were making that charging decision to reduce the charge, how did you weigh the defendant's immigration status? Well, sir, to be clear, I was not the lead prosecutor in that case. It was your office. Oh, absolutely, sir. I, of course, rely on my team of 50 summer gardens to do cases. But a weasel. But I think what is important is that oftentimes, as you know, sir, as a prosecutor...

You know, we're constrained by the evidence. We're constrained by what we have. How did you weigh, how did you take into account the defendant's immigration status? Well, sir, again, I'm saying, how did your office make that determination? Well, what I would say is that, and thank you for clarifying. If you take a look at the immigration consequence to policy. And it gets worse, unbelievably. Cut 19. Let me ask it a different way. Did your office reduce charges against this illegal alien from a felony rape charge to a misdemeanor charge with a 90-day suspended jail sentence, in part because this was an illegal alien in question? No, this was evidentiary-based. It was evident. There was no, it had nothing to do with the defendant's immigration status. Is that your testimony? If you read the policy, you'll see that... Did it have anything to do with the defendant's immigration status? It's just yes or no. Well, sir, it was based on the evidence? I'm asking you, was their immigration status part of the evidence? I don't believe so, sir. You don't believe so. Your policy says that you shall consider their immigration status. Actually, sir, if you actually read the whole policy, it explicitly carves out cases. Prosecutors shall consider the collateral immigration consequences of the specific crimes the defendant is charged with and the detrimental impact the deportation removal has. the families. It also mentions that it's not outcome determinative. It also I understand and I'm asking you if that if you weighed your office weighed uh the defendant's immigration status in making your charging decisions here again sir i was i was not the lead prosecutor i'm asking for your office i understand you're not the exactly i just want to be clear but the way that the policy is written that case should not have fallen under the rubric of this policy this is a narrow policy and is meant to be a narrow policy it's an illegal alien i think that would qualify would it not Well, no, sir, because, again, the way that the policy is being presented as it is outcome to turn to every case. There would be immigration consequences based on what charge you bring. That would clearly apply to this case. No, sir, again, that's the reason why I mentioned earlier. You've read a portion, but not the entire two paragraphs of this subhead. Prosecutors shall consider. I just want to know, yes, sir. Just give me a yes or no answer. Did you take into account the defendant's immigration status? Sorry, again, I was not, but the way the policy is written, no, they should not have taken. That is not outcome determined in a case like this. Yeah. In other words, they're playing favorites, and we all know they're playing favorites, and we know, you know, one of the good things in Massachusetts is that they don't even really pretend. I mean, the mayor has segregated parties. And they do it right in your face and say, yeah, we're doing it. This is the black party. You don't know. Whites aren't coming to this party. They do it right in your face. Look, the audacity of these people. What was the other town recently that was hiring based on, if you were to minority status? It's everywhere.

It's everywhere. These people who go in, progressives who go in activists, their job is never done. They're always doing the activisty thing, wherever they go. And if it's not in an HR department where they pollute the entire organization, which we've certainly seen happen, then it's in municipal government or state government, your local government, you've seen these people. You've seen these small towns. Why is Wellesley, Massachusetts doing a referendum on the Iran war? What's going on here? But they're serious. They think that's their job. They think changing the world. from Wellesley, from Winchester, from Lexington, they think their job is to change the world and change you. And so that's what they're going to do. And they believe that they know how to do it because they look at their Lexington place, their Winchester place, and their Wellesley place, and they say, my place is huge because I'm a good person. 800, no, no, no, 844, 542. This is a great scurley show. Stay with us.