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We started to wonder whether we, along with the roughly 35 million other Americans who work from home, had stepped into an enormous social experiment. Was remote work as liberating as it felt? We searched for answers in troves of data. Unsure of what we would find. Surveys of over half a million Americans from the last decade and a half revealed an uncomfortable truth. Despite its advantages, remote work has significantly deepened Americans' isolation and distress. Our estimates published in science this month with our collaborator, Amanda Pellis, indicate that remote work explains a third of the deterioration in mental health over the last 15 years. Our research doesn't suggest that work can occur only in the office, but it does mean that employees and companies should make a greater effort to prioritize face-to-face time with colleagues. Our study compares workers and jobs that could be done remotely, such as finance and software engineering, to workers and jobs that must be done in person. People in remote capable jobs worked from home three times as often in 2024 as they did in 2019. As they did, their days became more solitary. 84% of remote workers spend their workday entirely alone. Over half, report feeling less connected to their colleagues. Even when communicating online, people working from home receive less feedback from their coworkers and contact fewer people outside their immediate teams. These workers did not compensate by socializing more outside work. More days passed with no social contact, no hello from an office mate, no idle chit chat with a barista, no nod to a fellow commuter. These lost interactions are not trivial. In one study, when commuters were instructed to connect with a stranger near them, they reported being happier than those who continued in silence as usual, much to their own surprise. With fewer social interactions, workers and jobs that can be remote saw steeper increases in distress, mental health visits, and prescriptions for antidepressants. The increase in depression does not seem to reflect most recent fears, such as AI displacement. It began in 2020 and is not abated. The pain is not evenly shared. People who live with their spouse and kids saw their mental health hold fairly steady, while those who lived alone experienced a 20% decrease in mental well-being. So why do so many people like remote work, even saying they would accept pay cuts, afforded 10% to keep it? One reason is that remote work's costs are subtle and slow. When loneliness sets in gradually, it is natural to blame other life changes, a new job, a breakup, a fight with a friend, aging. Another reason is some people like remote work is that a half-empty office is not an extractive alternative. We don't need to accept the status quo. Now it goes on from there. I won't continue reading, but I will make this point of here is what the data actually shows about remote work. You miss real feedback from your bosses. You miss institutional knowledge. You miss real training. According to MIT, productivity actually drops 20% even as the workers believe they're more productive.

You have no mentors or company culture, no bonding and no happy hours, fewer real world friends. Divorce rates and mental health issues spike. You have fewer spontaneous opportunities like clients, meetings, and drinks with the boss to get seen. You have lower promotions and job security. And therein, my friends, is the biggest issue here. According to now about a dozen studies, people who work from home are less likely to get promoted. People who work from home are more likely to get laid off. And people who work from home are more likely to be prescribed antidepressants. Working from home sounds great. It does. Now I've got to peel back some layers of the onion here with myself. I worked from home for a long time, but I would prioritize my office is an hour, 15 minutes from my house. and I would make sure one day a week at least I was there. And it became one day every other week to accommodate family stuff as my kids got older, but I'd still try to go there. Now I have an office, and usually in my office, I am the only person in the office. One day a week, one co-worker comes to the office, and we go to lunch, and we can catch up and review. But it kind of is like remote work because it's usually me in the office by myself. My kid will come hang out and bring me coffee. But it's me. But it's also you guys. Because I get to talk to you on the radio. I am not a people person. I play a people person on the radio. I had fun last night. In Tulsa, I stood on the stage at Kane's ballroom where Johnny Cash took that famous picture of him flipping off the photographer. That was on that same stage that I was on last night. Of course, I had to recreate the photo. And it was great, but I find being around people draining. I need quiet time after I'm done. I need to just be alone for a little while to recharge my batteries. But I also recognize it's necessary to be around people. And one of our issues that we are seeing in this country with mental health these days is the rise of isolation triggering mental health problems. And it's not a coincidence that progressive women, particularly white progressive women, are the most likely to struggle with mental health.

Because the data shows that progressive white women are some of the most isolated people in the country. They don't go to church. They don't have a church network. And they don't have a network of friends. They have a network of political influencers. And a lot of them live isolated lives. And the data shows it's not good for them. And they have mental health problems. They have replaced religion. with politics, and right now they're in full despair because of the political environment. They feel like they're losing and their life is slipping away. For employers out there, you're getting pushed back from employees. You know, Jamie Diamond built this massive skyscraper in New York for Citigroup. Or, no, for JP Morgan, City Group already has it, said JP Morgan. And basically told the employees that they don't want to come to the office, they go find a new job. And so he's making everybody go back to work with the new office open. Now, you know, work from home has also had, like, economic problems. There's a building I just saw in Houston, Texas, that was valued at $100 million, and it's now going up for auction for $24 million because so many of the businesses that were in the building decided to go work from home and work remote, and they cancel their leases. The building is empty, and there's a financial real estate freefall happening in the country from all the businesses that send their employees home to work remotely. And again, most of you I know love working from home. And oftentimes you don't see the opportunity lost by working from home. You don't really see the isolation. You don't really see the lack of mentorship, and you don't really see that you're not getting promoted like other people, and you live in kind of a vacuum. And that's part of the problem, too. The data is very interesting now, and it's too overwhelming to ignore. There's an MIT study. There's a study now in science. There's a study from the National Institutes of Health. There's a study in the New England Journal of Medicine. There's a labor market study from the Federal Reserve. And they all kind of show the same thing. People who work from home tend to have greater rates of depression and antidepressants. They tend to not get as many promotions. They tend to be more isolated. And they tend to lose out on work culture. And that work culture part is kind of an important component for people in offices who... want to be parts of their companies. And increasingly, it's also bad for business in that the employees who go down this route then lack the corporate culture to help the corporation succeed, and that then has cascading economic impacts across the economy. I work from home for years. I made a priority to go into my office once a week or once every other week. Just to see and be seen and to build those relationships. If you're working from home, make sure you're trying to build those relationships even if you're working from home. Don't isolate yourself. It's bad for you. We are not meant to live on islands. Follow Eric on X, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and Rumble. Search E.W. Erickson.

Back, it is Eric Erickson here across the nation. You can be a part of the program, and I want to go to Dwayne's phone call. Welcome to the show, Dwayne. How are you? Good. Thanks for taking the call again. Sure. So I agree, well, what the guy said earlier about Trump's going to wait until after the midterms and then go back in. I don't think that's going to happen because if Trump was going to bomb again, he would have bombed him. I don't think he's a killer at heart, okay? And that's why he didn't want to kill too many people. He'll hit a golf ball, but he won't shoot a deer, okay? I think it's going to be Marco Rubio in 2028 that's going to go in and finish this because I think Marco Rubio is more than willing to shoot a deer. Yeah, I think he is too. He doesn't like communists and he doesn't like Iranian radicals. The question, though, is can Marco Rubio get through a primary? If JD Vance runs, I don't actually think that Marco Rubio runs if JD Vance runs. I think that Trump is trying to put a ticket together of JD Vance and Marco Rubio, although I know, and I've mentioned before, it's an open conversation to the White House, and at Mar-a-Lago, President brings up all the time. Do people think it should be JD Vance or do people think it should be Marco Rubio? And he's inclined these days, I think, to be very impressed by Marco Rubio, but JD Vance is very loyal to him. And I think with push comes to shove, the president would side with JD Vance. And if the president gives his blessing, I think most of the base of the Republican Party will do it. I see people today dragging JD Vance, who look, I disagree with JD Vance often, but I like the guy personally. He's a very nice guy. And I see people say, oh, well, JD Vance, he's not going to be the nominee now. Or if JD Vance runs, it's going to be really divided primary. I don't think it's going to be. I think the Democrats are largely going to put up Kamala Harris, and I think the Republican Party will unite behind whoever is up against Kamala Harris. I just, I think that's the case. And I mean, I will vote for any Republican. I shouldn't say any, but most Republicans over Kamala Harris. I'm not actually going to vote for Kamala Harris ever. I would certainly just sit on the sidelines. I mean, if it was desperate, I can't imagine the Republicans picking someone who I wouldn't vote for at this point because I want to not have common Harris or orders a Gavin Newsom or a Pete Buttigieg. And if you're confronted with a Gavin Newsom or a Pete Buttigieg or Harris, most of you are like, I'm not voting for that guy right now. I'm madame. Oh, you're going to forgive. You will because you want to stop the other guy. So I certainly wouldn't vote for a Democrat. If it would be Marco Rubio, look, I like Marco Rubio. I think Marco Rubio was sharp. He's smart, and he is extremely articulate when it comes to foreign and domestic policy. And I do think it is extremely, extremely obvious and notable that he doesn't support this deal, given his unwillingness to be point personal defending it. Now, JD Vance negotiated it. He gets stolen it, and people in the White House are very much insisting. This is the JD Vance plan.

And JD Vance is out there saying he loves it. He owns it. He is glad to own it. He thinks it's a great deal. And I think that's a lot of bravado because it's not a good deal. It is ultimately a surrender. Iran gets access to large amounts of money to fund terrorism and not take care of its people. and ultimately doesn't have to agree to anything. And you know and I know in 60 days, we're not going back into bomb Iran because we'll be closer to the midterms and the president's not going to want to risk the fallout. And after the midterms, Iran will have restocked their arms. So I don't think anything changes. Kudos to those who are very optimistic and things. Well, the president can go back in it any time. I don't think he will. And I think JD Vance knows he won't. And I think, frankly, part of the issue here is that JD Vance is a big isolationist and he's structured a deal that forces America into isolation. That... If they get to keep their ballistic missile shield at some point, we can't stop them. And so we just have to lay off them. And I think that JD Vance and the isolationists think it's a good thing to put people in a position to not be able to do things we want to do militarily. And that is how this deal is structured, to lock the American position into a position of isolation because we're not going to be able to go take them out. And I think that's unfortunate. Now, what I also think is unfortunate is when you get your data stolen and it's sold to hackers or spammers and you get the AI spam bots who tell you, oh my gosh, your kid's been kidnapped. You've got to pay a ransom. That stuff actually happens. And it's AI generated bots mimicking your child they found on Instagram because your account was tied to them on a data broker website. Or you get the credit card solicitations, or people open credit cards in your name, or the lawyers come for you because they found your address and they found you have a car, or the scammers come because they saw your prescriptions. Incogni tells the data brokers to cease and desist selling your data. Incogni serves as your representative to make you private online. You go to incogni.com slash Eric. Incogni.com slash Eric. You save up to 60% on incogni. And Incogni works day and night every day, going to the data brokers who sell your data online with impunity to anyone they want, including criminals, and says, take the data down. I have now gone for three weeks without a single telemarketer phone call, thanks to Incogni.com.com slash Eric, save up to 60%. Incogni.com slash Eric. Save up to 60%.

He's got the courage to tell you the truth because the truth is what matters. You're listening to the Eric Erickson show. Ladies and gentlemen, there's some breaking news happening right now that I need to tell you about. Welcome back. It is Eric Erickson. Again, this is breaking news that is happening right now. The Hezbollah forces in southern Lebanon have opened fire on Israel, firing more than a dozen rockets at Israel. Israel has now responded to the rocket attack from Hezbollah, and Iran is now declaring very shortly thereafter that it may scuttle the deal as a result. This is happening now. Very predictable. Hezbollah started it. We have not only the belief from the Israeli government, people had cameras out and saw the rockets in the air from Lebanon to Israel. There are pictures all over social media. Israel has returned fire, and now Iran said, well, they may just get out of this deal altogether. Iran getting out of the deal altogether comes after the Qataris have already confirmed that they're flowing billions of dollars to Iran with the permission of the United States. So the money has been transferred to Iran and now Iran's like, we may get out of the deal. That's happening. Right now. Concurrent to that, the Russians have seen a massive oil refinery blown up by the Ukrainians, 14 kilometers outside of Moscow. They could hear the explosion of the southern parts of the city, and the smoke is now blowing towards Moscow, covering the city in a black smog from the oil fire. It was extremely impressive. One of the tops of an oil tanker was blown off. It looked like a giant frisbee in the air. It's an impressive. photo that was taken by someone. The Ukrainians able to send a bevy of drones into Moscow bypassing air defense systems. Some were shot down. Most weren't and took out this oil refinery. And something like 40% of the oil supply for Moscow and its environs has now been cut by the Ukrainians who are able to project their power increasingly through drones. Good for the Ukrainians. Now, I want to go to Bill in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where I was yesterday. Did the radio show at my affiliate, KRMG, took the stage at Kane's ballroom last night where Johnny Cash once stood. It was awesome. And Bill is calling from Tulsa. Welcome to the show, Bill. Thank you, and I hope you enjoyed your visit to our beautiful city. I sure did. I didn't get to spend enough time. Yeah, there's so much to see in Oklahoma, but don't build it up too much because we are a sanctuary state. You know that. Yeah, there was a lady at the event last night. There was a lady last night of the event who was taking refuge in Oklahoma from California. It's a sanctuary state for conservatives. Yes, it is. You have to have a three-digit IQ, be able to speak English and have a job, and you're welcome here. Anyway, I completely concur with your assessment of the Iranian deal. Any agreement that leaves the Ayatollah and the IRG in power is a defeat, but you could see this coming. And we will just, time will tell how things work out.

But what I called about was I'm 78 years old, and I listened to your talk about isolation and the work from home, which is another one of our social experiments that we're going through in this country, which I've witnessed this. You don't have to be a research scientist to know what's happening to people's mental health and working from home. Across a broad array of areas, it's bad. It increases productivity, all kinds of things. Corporate agreement, you know, working for the company and stuff like that. It destroys all of that. My daughter... is just gave a speech out at USC at Berkeley. They flew her out there to give a speech because she's been working from home for about 15 years. She gets up every morning at 5.30, washes her face, brush her teeth, combs her hair, puts on her makeup and dresses, and then goes into her room, which is designated as an office. She has discipline. She was doing this long before it became. a trend these social experiments given kids computers as you know as you have commented they're taking them away from them this AI does not create anything all it does is reproduce the knowledge that people already have. As far as like in school, you're not creative thinking or individual thinking. All you're doing is hitting a button, and it spouts out something that somebody else has already written. Like, say, I'm an old dude. You become stoic when you get old. You realize that what you say in the good old days really don't mean anything. And the modern philosophy is anything new is better than anything old. But anyway, I'm in Tulsa. We love it. Listen, you said something else I've got to hit on there is I can't I can't brag too much about how much I've enjoyed being in Oklahoma because y'all don't have traffic like Atlanta and I'm afraid if too many people move out here, it'll ruin it for all of you. Well, we have so much here. My wife has a catering business, and I tell people, I do the bars, and I welcome them to Oklahoma, and I say, what are you interested in? If you're interested in architecture, we've got the only skyscraper that Frank Lloyd Wright built right up here in Bartlesville, which is my hometown, best damn town in the country. And we have several Frank Lloyd Wright homes here in Tulsa, plus our 20s era. architecture, which I've heard you mentioned because your son is an architect. It's an amazing downtown. And my son, I've got to bring my 70-year because he's so into architecture and he loves Frank Lloyd Wright. And I've got to bring my son next time I come to Tulsa so he can see the downtown area because it is really, I mean, folks, I realize Bill and I were here, we're doing, we're doing, and I'm in Oklahoma City right now, so I feel a little bit like a little stabbing him in the back. But in Tulsa, and Bill, thanks for the phone call.

They've got a downtown Art Deco district, and it is gorgeous. The buildings look like, you know, the old school Batman cartoon? I mean, I watched that one in college and in law school, and then introduced my kids to it, Batman, the Innovative Series, and everything was Art Deco. That's like downtown Tulsa. It's so cool. I love the architecture in Tulsa. Okay, I got to move on, because I want to talk about something, and... Listen, my apologies, it is not my intention to drag the vice president of the United States, who I will say again, I personally like the vice president, even as I oftentimes will disagree with the vice president on some of his policies. I want to play this clip. It's not the entirety of the clip. This is a conversation he's had about his book, his new book communion. He sent me a copy of it the other day. I haven't read it yet. This is Ross Douth of the New York Times with JD Vance. We could have a longer argument about the economics. Sure. But I just want to let's stipulate that the Trump administration has in some way a kind of vision of. rebuilding the working class that's connected to Christianity. Was that hard to say, Ross? I'm stipulate. For the sake of argument and the fact that you have not given us three hours to have this discussion, we're stipulating it. It also seems to me like the administration has distanced itself in different ways from some other... sort of obvious expressions of Christian influence on politics. Some of them more sort of liberal coded, some of them more conservative coded. Like what do you? Like the administration has been more hostile than any prior Republican administration to say nothing of Democrats in the last 20 years do the way we do humanitarian aid. It has kept religious conservatives, pro-life organizations especially. at arm's length in a way that has led to a lot of criticism and then you know let's let's be honest the tone of the administration is not consistently a Christian tone. There is a tone of aggressive uncharity to people who aren't on board with the administration's policies. So I would describe those as three areas where the administration has felt functionally post-Christian to me. And I'm curious what you think. Well, so on the first point, um, Well, sorry, the third point, but I want to address it first. You can work backward. So on the tone thing, this is, it's very hard to rebut this because it's like fundamentally unfalsifiable. Because for every clip that you could show me of me.

or the president or some cabinet secretary saying something that in your view is un-Christian, I could show you another few clips of us doing something or saying something that is like very Christian. The nature of political communication in the era of mass media is that sometimes people are going to say jokes that are taken out of context. Sometimes people are going to make mistakes. I'm not saying, I make mistakes. I talk about this in the book a little. In my book, Communion, available where books are sold, I talk about the own mistakes that I've made. as a Christian leader in America. There is an apology to childless cat ladies. And we don't need to get sidetracked by that. Go on. But my point is like, I'm not saying we're perfect because we're not. My point is that the tone argument is in some ways, I think, people see what they want to see. And I also think that tonal arguments are ways of, frankly, policing working class ways of communication. and covering them in elite preferences. That's where we need to jump off here. The vice president says, and I will read the quote. When Ross Douth that says that the administration comes across oftentimes as lacking in Christian grace and charity in the way it communicates and does things, the bullying of people on their own side, things like that, the, the boorish behavior, the vice president says, total arguments are ways of, frankly, policing, working class ways of communication and covering them in elite preferences. You know who also says that? When employers tell young non-white employees that they need to speak proper grammar, they are told that that is racist, that is the elite policing the tone and ways of communication of non-white people. This argument... leads to the justifications of bad behaviors in the ways of this class of people behaved this way and you're not good, you are an elitist snob or you are bad for trying to get them to change their ways. Many of us have recognized this over the years when we, for example, suggest that it's not a good sign in the black community on the south side of Chicago that so many people get killed every week. And what are we told? Well, you're not in the quote unquote community, so you can't say that. It is, frankly, true that there are things this administration does and conveys to people that do not reflect being a Christian. Yesterday, a now former consultant, it appears he's been pushed out the door of Mike Collins. replied to a tweet of Jon Ossoff and said, you're next and used the B word calling Jon Ossoff that.

It is that crassness and vulgarization that I think Douthit is talking about, and it is something that, frankly, a lot of people in the Trump Coalition have enjoyed being a part of. It makes them feel good to punish their enemy. There's actually some data out there I saw. I want to say from, oh, one of the more prominent, accurate pollsters, that there is a segment of the right now. that it relishes the fact that the Trump administration browbeats, bullies, and harasses the opposition, the way they think the opposition does to them, that most people on all sides don't want the trash talk and stuff, but this group does. And the Trump administration has catered to that. But there's a larger point here. Larger point behind, I think, that that sort of argument that, oh, you don't like the way we talk, therefore you're an elitist snob. No, no, no. We've had this defense of ebonics for years of people trying to say, well, this is the way the black community talks. No, you don't. When you're at an employer and you have a good job, you don't talk like that. And it's not racism to say otherwise. And we get lots of excuses of bad behavior from people who hide behind you're an elitist snob or you're a racist because you're doing this. There's a larger argument, though, and it's this argument. And Doubt that didn't specifically get into this. But I made this comment on stage. There were two young men. I hope you all are listening right now from Tulsa who drive a garbage truck. And one of them asked a question, how do we respond so many younger people his age, he's in his 20s, how do we respond to the growing number of young people who are embracing violence against their political opponents? Now, I've only got about a minute here to make this point, so I'm going to do it succinctly. When you go to the Old Testament, when you look at the purity laws and the Israelites, they couldn't wear mixed fabric clothing, they couldn't have tattoos, they couldn't eat shellfish, things like that. Do you know why those laws were there? Because that was the outward identifier for God's people. All the other tribes had tattoos, wore mixed fabric clothing, they ate shellfish. Here come the Jews, and people could say, hey, these people are unique, they're different. Look at the way they dress. Look at what they don't eat. Look at how they congregate together. Look at how they don't marry into other tribes. It was a behavioral designation put on by God to separate them from other people. You fast for the New Testament, those laws went away. What is the way that Christians segment themselves? It's their behaviors. It is your outward manifestation of God's love through your behavior. And if you are the bully, if you are the badgerer, if you are using crude and vulgar talk constantly, if it's not just a joke, if you are being malicious and hateful to your neighbor who disagrees with you politically, you look just like the world. You don't look like the Christian.

And you're not going to persuade people to come to your faith if you look and act just like everyone else in the world because there is no outward change to the inward change in your heart. And so my... My point to these guys last night who were asking this is it begins in the church. You want to get people away from violence. You, the Christian, have got to in your daily life 24-7, 365, and not just for an hour on Sunday, actually model God's love. And that is why the early Christian church was persecuted because they were super weird compared to the Romans and the way they behaved. And over time, the Romans wanted to know why are these people who are being persecuted and killed always the joyful, helpful people? And they wanted to become like that. And an entire empire wound up. converting to Christianity before Constantine the empire was already converting because they saw these weird people acting so kind and nice even to the people who hated them and they're like, we want to be like those guys. And you know what? You can't excuse blue collar trash talk and say, well, this is an elitist argument because it really isn't the way of Christians supposed to behave in society and we need to do a better job of modeling our faith by loving our neighbor if we're going to get people off the ledge in society. Now, let me tell you about the Eden Pier Thunderstorm. You get three of them. You save $200.000. Edenpuredeals.com. Edenpuredeals.com. You go to Edenpuredeals.com. You put in the discount code, Eric 3, E-R-I-C-K-3. You get three of them. You save $200 bucks. They're in air purifier, so they get rid of dust. They get rid of pollen. They're small. You can travel. I keep one in my travel bag when I travel. You can wipe out smoke odors. You can wipe out litter box odors. You can wipe out musty odors, frying in the kitchen odors. Stinky odors in your hotel room. It wipes them out because it generates ozone. And ozone is like odor bleach, and there's a money-back guarantee. You can see the site for details. You go to Eden Pure Deals. and put in the discount code Eric 3. You're at the intersection of politics, news, culture, and current events. It's the Eric Erickson Show. Get the podcast, live stream, email, and social media links by texting Eric to 3377. Now. To He Who Must Be Obeyed. I know. Bad Clock Management Today, short segment here. Y'all, I got a tornado watch alert. I'm in Oklahoma City. It's like, what? And then I realized it's for Macon, Georgia, where my family is. I'm like, I'm in Oklahoma and the tornadoes are in Georgia. I'm glad, but I got a... fly back through there in the morning. Hopefully the storm will be out of the way. If you're in the southeast, you've got a tropical storm rolling through North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama. Pay attention to your local radio station, Florida as well in the panhandle area. You've got some heavy, heavy storms coming through the southeast that hopefully Delta will be able to get the plane here tonight so I can fly home in the morning. I will be back in studio in Atlanta tomorrow. Those of you in Oklahoma City, you can come out this afternoon. Check us out, Freedom96.9.com to get the details on where to go. I'll be at the venue and, like,

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