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132 segmentsThe following statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose tree cure or prevent any disease. The human brain is truly incredible. It has 100 billion neurons surpassing even the most powerful supercomputers. And it controls our thoughts, our emotions, and everything we do. And Previgen is designed to help keep it amazing. Prevagen also believes that good daily habits are a powerful part of any routine. Exercising regularly, eating well, getting good quality sleep, staying mentally active, and staying connected with friends and family are all great for your brain. And that's why so many people choose Prevagen, because it can help supplement those good habits, working alongside your daily routine to give your brain the care it deserves. Previgin is powered by Apoachoran, originally discovered in jellyfish and designed specifically for your brain. Because when your brain is at its best, you can continue doing what you love with confidence. Try Previgin for your brain today. I'm Shanean Breen. U.S. forces launch an eighth straight night of attacks on Iran after a deadly attack on U.S. troops and a bipartisan push to sanction Russia gains steam. The White House does support the bill, and I believe it can be passed before August. Let's hold Vladimir Putin accountable. And let's honor Lindsey Graham as we move this forward. Sweeping legislation brokered by the late senator meant to pressure Moscow and deprive it of funds for its war against Ukraine. We'll discuss the prospects for passage with two of the prominent co-sponsors, Jeanne Shaheen, the top Democrat on foreign relations and Katie Britt, the Republican senator spearheading the efforts. Then we'll sit down with Congressman Michael McCall, Chairman Emeritus of House Foreign Affairs and Homeland Security committees, fresh back from his meeting with... President Volodymyr Zelensky in Ukraine. And I think it sounds so radical, like abolish the Senate, abolish the Supreme Court, like, et cetera, et cetera. But it's really, it's not. The Democratic Socialists of America roll out an updated platform to remake the political system as their movement gained steam ahead of the midterms. We'll ask our Sunday panel how the radical proposals are landing across America. Plus. It's Argentina versus Spain in the World Cup finale. We're live on the ground at the stadium ahead of the final showdown. All right now on Fox News Sunday.
Hello from Fox News in Washington. We begin with a look at some of today's top stories. Controversial social media influencer brothers, Andrew and Tristan Tate, were taken into custody Saturday by federal marshals in Miami. They were arrested in connection with the UK police investigation into alleged sexual offenses dating back to 2012. England beat France six to four in a thrilling third place match as the World Cup competition winds down. France's Killing Mbapé surpassed Leo Messi's record for World Cup goals by scoring his 21st and 22nd career goals during the competition. But will Messi reclaim the record in today's Argentina-Spain final? Coming up, we're going to take you to the World Cup final for a preview. You can watch the championship match on Fox. Weather forecasters say that while severe thunderstorms are expected across the U.S. early this week, smoke from Canadian wildfires will remain the biggest threat for tens of millions of people. While widespread rainfall will help alleviate some of the threat, areas that miss out on those soaking rains remain vulnerable to new wildfires. But our top story this morning, new developments in the Middle East. In a moment, we'll talk with Democratic Senator Jeanne Shaheen and Republican Senator Katie Britt, who are in London. on a bipartisan mission. But first, the latest from the White House. Alex Hogan is with the president in Bedminster, New Jersey. Alex. Hi, Shannon. The U.S. military carried out its eighth consecutive night of attacks on Iran. As Iran launched its own strikes on U.S. allies in the Middle East this weekend. The U.S. military says that two U.S. service members have been killed. One is missing. And four others were evacuated to Jordanian hospitals after an Iranian missile and drone attack on a base in Jim Jordan. On Friday, President Trump at his Benminster, New Jersey Golf Club, reportedly telling News Nation, quote, we hate to see it happen. It is in service to our country. When the conflicts began in February, Trump warned that service members could be killed, arguing the fight was for the future. The president had also stated that this would only last roughly six weeks. Democrats this weekend criticizing the administration over the conflict that's drawn out nearly six months. My deepest condolences to the families of the service members. We pray for their comfort at this very difficult time. Secondly, this is a forever war at this point. This is a quagmire. Neither side, the U.S. certainly cannot militarily resolve this situation. Altogether, now 16 U.S. service members have been killed and more than 430 wounded. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth reacted writing, Godspeed heroes. Their sacrifice only stiffens are resolved. Friday, Trump attended a FIFA reception at the Trump Tower in New York City. This has been far beyond a sporting event. This has been something very, very special. So good luck to Spain and Argentina on Sunday, and may the best team win.
And President Trump is expected to attend the final today at MetLife Stadium here in New Jersey. Shannon. Alex Hogan, reporting from Bedminster. Thank you, Alex. Joining us now, Brent Sadler, former Navy Captain and Heritage Foundation Senior Research Fellow to talk through some of the latest developments. Great to have you back. Great to be back. So this is Jim Jordan. This is the area where Iran hit caused casualties for us. We know at least two U.S. soldiers lost now. That takes us to a total of 16 lives. And there are hundreds, we're told, have been wounded as well, by incoming from Iran. Absolutely. I mean, the human cost on this is a reminder that What we benefit from now does come at a cost. And the soldiers, sailors, and airmen that are still out there doing the work to protect us, hearts and prayers need to be for them every day. Jim Jordan, in the bigger scheme of things, there's air bases, there are logistics supports there. It's why the Iranians are attacking it. What still is a question is why they have not resumed attacks against Israel. Certainly not by lack of intent. It could be an indication of that... their war machine is being worn down. Okay. So we're going to look at another map that it shows us more broadly some more of the retaliatory strikes coming out from Iran. We obviously have a lot of allies and at least partners in the region who are taking this incoming. And there have been conversation a few weeks ago that maybe that was the reason we'd stop some of the more kinetic action that there had been conversations with them asking us to pull back on that. And yet Iran is now very actively going after these targets. I think there's also just equally on the part of our allies in the region to... push forward and more aggressively prosecute this conflict to its conclusion. It's in their best interest that Iran is not able to reconstitute itself and be unreformed. In other words, they'll just come back even more angry and more of a threat in the future. So we need to finish the job. And I think our partners in the region want to see that too. And from the Iranian perspective, they've alienated themselves and they've surrounded themselves now with active military threats because they've attacked all their neighbors. And it also is indication that they only have shorter range type of capabilities. Another indication that perhaps why they're not attacking further afield is because that capacity to target is no longer there anymore. And also why they're going down to work with another one of their proxies, the Houthis, to hopefully start attacks on shipping in the Red Sea again. Yeah. So let's talk about the strait because we're beefing up our naval assets there, our blockade there. That has been reconstituted. But you mentioned the Red Sea may be closed off. At least Iran, the reporting is from Reuters. that they're asking the Houthis to be ready to choke off that point as well. Well, a couple of things on the Houthis that why I would not be too worried about it. One is much of the global shipping that's already adjusted, they avoid that area. You have the Saudi East-West pipeline that's 600 miles to the north in the Red Sea from the Houthis. So much of the oil that goes to Europe and elsewhere doesn't even go by the Babelman Debt that straight the Houthis are trying to close off.
The Iranians have tried to get. They had two plane loads of folks. The Saudis tried to intervene there. Brought in some more IRGC folks, perhaps with leadership and technical support. But whether they've got the missiles or the capability, they're not going to have a whole lot to shoot out again because the world's adjusted. Different story on the Straits-O-Hormuz, the U.S. blockade. It's not necessarily a physical presence outside of each of the Iranian ports. That's not how this has been done. It's not how its wage. One is financial. When you had the Secretary of Scott Bessent actually revoke the waivers, that's perhaps the biggest part of this because no one's going to buy oil if they can't get it from the Iranians. The next thing, and again, the waivers make that very hard to move the money. The next thing is the actual shipping. And the ships, the U.S. Navy is not up inside and near the Iranian port. for this blockade. They're sitting off here in the Gulf of Oman, and this is the cork of the bottle. You can't get any oil in or ships in or oil out if you can't get past that line. So let's talk about where we're striking as well. This is over Friday, Saturday. If you could quickly wrap us up here about where we're targeting and how it's working. So a couple of things are going on here. First is isolating the IRGC. This is the muscle. This is what's keeping the regimes dictate. you know, preeminent on the street in suppressing the people, which we know in January was widespread. And we know from leaked government documents, Iranian governments, that they only have less than 10% of popular support. And that probably is a problem that they're having to worry about. So isolating. So some attacks where you see scattered around here. And on the border, this prevents logistics resupplies. There's another railhead that was attacked earlier is to cut Iran off from resupply, but also bridges that you see in railway and tunnels, it starts to isolate the IRGC, that then allows agitating of, you know, discontent to start to probably galvanize against an opposition to the regime. This is providing the Iranian people, the opening, a little bit more forcefully in the past, to take their country back. They desperately want it and needed. Yes. Captain, thank you very much. Always appreciate your insights. Thank you. And joining us now are the top Democrat on Foreign Relations, Senator Jeanne Shaheen and Republican Senator Katie Britt. They are together on a bipartisan foreign mission. Welcome to you both. Good to have you. I want to get to the work that you guys are doing together with respect to Russia. But first a tie-in for Russia, apparently to the situation in Iran, the Wall Street Journal reporting that China and Russia may actually be helping Iran to target our assets and our allies in the region. Senator Jeanne Shaheen, what more can and should we be doing? doing with respect to their involvement in the Iran conflict? Well, that's exactly why we need to put more pressure on Vladimir Putin and Russia on the war in Ukraine, because we need to shut him down there and shut him down with any help he's providing to Iran in the Middle East. And the same is true of China. And that's exactly what our Russia sanctions bill would do. And I'm pleased that we have now over... We have 62 sponsors. We're ready to go. There's a lot of momentum behind this. This is a way to a fitting legacy for Lindsey Graham to get this bill passed. Okay. Before we leave this issue with Iran, Senator Brett, I want to get your input as well here. We've lost two more U.S. soldiers, one still missing for others hospitalized. We know there have been hundreds hospitalized or injured in some way in this conflict. Where do you see the off-ramp, the resolution to the Iran conflict?
Well, first, Senator Jeanne Shaheen and I were just talking about this. Our hearts and prayers are with our servicemen and women right now. We certainly are thinking about those who have lost their life and their family and stand with them for just the ultimate sacrifice that they've given our country. You know, when we look at this, I think Lindsey Graham was clear-eyed about this. And I have said over the last week, South Carolina didn't just lose an incredible statement, statesmen, the Senate. the nation and the globe lost a leader and a difference maker. Look, he knew what Iran was capable of, and he knew that when they chanted death to America, that they meant it. Look, he believed in President Trump and knew that President Trump had what it takes to create a resolution to what is happening there. He knows that when you are threatened, that you do not respond with weakness, and when you are attacked, you do not retreat. Look, I know President Trump will do what it takes to keep our men and women uniforms safe. and ultimately create a resolution to this. But this is why this is so important, Shannon. We know the very same people that are funding Russia and funding Vladimir Putin's war of aggression are the very same people funding Iran. And front and center in that is China. And so we know by being able to move this bill across the finish line, the bipartisan support that we have gotten to hold Vladimir Putin accountable, to give President Trump the flexibility and the tools he needs, and the economic firepower to bring Vladimir Putin to the table, to create peace and resolution here. will ultimately have a lasting impact across the globe, making sure that those who are funding bad actors, whether it be Russia or those in Iran, will be held accountable. Well, Senator Britt, I know that you talked with the late senator shortly before he passed away. Both of you knew the passion that he had on this particular topic and trying to give these necessary lifelines to Ukraine. Why and how will this bill be different in putting pressure on Vladimir Putin in a way that has not worked up to this point? Senator Brett, start with you. Yeah, so first off, I had an opportunity to talk to Senator Graham after he had gotten word from the White House and President Trump that they were on board. He was with Senator Jeanne Shaheen, so I will let her talk to that, to talk to his spirit in the moment. I certainly could fill the smile through the phone because he knew that this is what we needed to actually end Vladimir Putin's aggression. This is what we needed to hold him accountable. What we've done is we have narrowly targeted this to the bad actors that are funding. this war. We know that, look, Vladimir Putin isn't a weak spot. I believe the weakest spot he has been in four years. And so we know being able to implement these sanctions, being able to hold those who continue to fund this war accountable, will ultimately be what brings them to the table and create the resolution that the world has wanted to see. We want. peace. We want to end the killing. And this, these economic tools are what it's going to take to ultimately bring Vladimir Putin to the table and create that resolution that we're looking for. And I know Senator Jeanne Shaheen can speak directly to being with Lindsay in that moment. Lindsay, the best of the best and in this moment that he was so excited about. Yeah. And we know Senator Jeanne Shaheen, you all have been traveling together.
in Turkey and the NATO summit, and you had been talking about bringing together all of these details as this was getting to the finish line in a very bipartisan way. But I want to bring up something the Wall Street Journal editorial board says about this. It says the president under this new measure would have the authority to issue tariff and sanctions waivers. If he deems it in the national interest, this would be a weakness. It says could be a weakness given Mr. Trump's record of trying to placate Mr. Vladimir Putin. Are you worried about that part of this puzzle as the sanctions package comes? together? Well, virtually every bill that we pass that addresses sanctions gives presidential waiver authority. What this bill does is it narrowly targets the biggest oil and gas users of Russia who are funding Russia's war machine. That's China, it's India, it's a number of Azerbaijan, it's a number of other countries that need to stop buying Russian oil, and they're buying it mostly from the shadow fleet. So those ships that are traveling around... providing less than market rates for oil and gas in a way that continues to fund Russia's war in Ukraine. We need to shut that down. We've already done that, actually, on Iran's shadow fleet. Now it's time to do it on Russia's. And Senator Graham and I were in Ankara for the NATO summit. He was very enthusiastic about getting White House support for this legislation. We think this is a way to really... put the pressure on Russia at a time that they're experiencing. real challenges with respect to their war in Ukraine. Ukraine has the momentum right now. Russia's losing over 30,000 casualties a month, their economies being affected. They are at the point where if we can get Vladimir Putin, more pressure on Vladimir Putin, we can get him to the table, we can end this war, and that's in everyone's interest. And that's what Lindsey Graham was after and what we're after. in Congress in a bipartisan way. Yeah, I want to ask you to, Senator Jeanne Shaheen, about another part of the foreign policy puzzle, which is Israel. And this week, more than 100 House Democrats voted to a measure that would have blocked some aid to Israel. The Wall Street Journal editorial board reacting this way, saying it's one thing to oppose Mr. Trump's war on Iran, but it's a far more radical step to cut loose a steadfast ally. And we hear this from your Senate colleague, Democrat John Fetterman, also in reaction. As long as we continue to do that, you make that official. You make that part of our platform. That's my red line in the Democratic Party. And I would like to remind everyone, you know, I made the math possible to hold the majority in 26. He says he's worried that Democrats are moving toward becoming the anti-Israel party. Your reaction to that House vote?
Well, certainly I think there's real concern about what's happening with the Palestinians in Gaza. That's why the Board of Peace was created. This is the time to provide that humanitarian support to ensure that the Palestinians are looking at opportunity in the future. But we need to also recognize that Israel is our strongest ally in the Middle East. We need to continue to work with them now. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu himself has said Israel needs to wean itself off of American aid. So I'm sure that he's going to continue to move in that direction. All right. We know that is far from over. More votes to come on that. Senator Britt, I want to get to you on a domestic issue. The president talked about election integrity this week. His speech seemed very much aimed at getting the Save America Act moving there in the Senate. But you have GOP senators themselves who are not reliable votes who are opposed. Senator Lisa Murkowski writing this. As written, the Save America Act isn't a simple fix to safeguard elections, as proponents claim. It would impose costly new barriers and prevent some, perhaps many, from boating while also creating chaos before the November election. Thom Tillis took to the floor and gave a very passionate speech about why he is not supportive of this. What's the path forward? Is there one for the Save America Act in the Senate? Look, I think that's just common sense. People want to know that their elections are safe. We want to know that our vote counts and that it is, in fact, us that gets to vote. I think you see voter ID in 35, 36 states across the country. We want to work diligently to ensure that we protect and save our election process. So we're going to keep pushing on this, Shannon. We're going to keep pushing on making sure that only citizens vote. I mean, we are seeing from coast to coast examples of places. like D.C., where non-citizens can vote in city elections, we want to make sure that American elections are for American citizens. So we're going to keep working on what is a pathway forward from that. And I think what you heard from the president obviously was talking about potential of other actors being involved. And I think we get back to China. Look, China is undermining us at every turn. We're seeing that in Russia. We're seeing that with Iran. I think we need to be clear-eyed. And in a bipartisan way, talk very specifically about... the threats of China, whether they're here at home or they're abroad. And that's certainly what I appreciate the president doing. Well, and the two of you may not be on the same page on the Save America Act, but you are on a measure that you're also pushing this week that will have to do with capping monthly insulin costs. That affects millions of Americans. We know you're joined on that process and we'll watch as that plays out for a vote, I think, in the Help Committee soon this week, too. Safe travels to both of you, senators. Good to have you. Thank you. Thank you. So the U.S. responding to Iran strike killing U.S. service members with new strikes of its own. We're going to take you live to Mike Tobin in Tel Aviv for the very latest update. And then reaction to all the top foreign policy stories. Plus talk of a possible government shutdown. Yeah, we're having that conversation again with Congressman Mike McCall. He's live next.
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abroad. He knew that Russia and China and Iran are all tied in this together. This bill not only punishes Russia and energy coming out of Russia, it also hurts Iran, and it also hurts China. So I believe it's going to pass this week. With respect to conditions on the ground, I was near the front lines with the soldiers there, the commanders. The drone operations are absolutely stunning. The casualties on the Russian... side, they are actually winning this war. I think Trump likes a winner, and that's why he came out at the NATO summit, supporting Ukraine's efforts and getting Patriot licensing agreements into Ukraine. And this moral support for Ukraine was huge in terms of Volodymyr Zelensky's... reaction and on the front lines. Lastly, they need these interceptors. Every night when I was in Kiev, they're getting bombed by ballistic missiles. Last night, they had about 20 ballistic missiles every night, and we have to help them to stop that bombing. Well, we'll track the sanctions packages, which do seem bipartisan in nature and on much more of a fast track than most of the things on Capitol Hill right now. Let's turn to Iran, though. Reuters had this to say about where we are right now. They said more analysts agree that a major U.S. escalation, short of a dangerous and politically untenable ground invasion to oust Iran's rulers, would have little chance of being any more effective in forcing Iran to change course than the earlier phases of the four-and-a-half-month-old war. So where are we now? How does this end? Remember, the military was winning this war against Iran. And by the way, I applaud President Trump, the first one since 1979, to take action against a nuclear Iran. And having said that, you know, our military is winning. We stopped to negotiate a ceasefire and a negotiated settlement. That did not work with this regime. I was not sanguine about that being successful. So now we're going to move forward with Plan A again. The military is going to move in, take out their launch pads, take out their ability to send Shahed drones, to hit tankers, the missiles. Same thing, quite frankly, that Ukraine is doing against Russia. We're going to do that against Iran. They're using the same drones as Shahed drones. But we've got to knock out these... targets inside of Iran. to open up the straits of Hormuz. That has to be the fundamental objective, key objective right now. Okay, so as the administration is waging that, conflicts, they've come to you for more money on Capitol Hill. And there are those who say they need more of an explanation about what's being done. They include GOP Senator Joni Ernst, who has worn the uniform, served overseas. She's a veteran. She says this, they need to come to Congress and explain exactly what is going on. She wants to know what they're going to achieve with these dollars and really how we...
wrap this conflict up? Do you feel like the administration has articulated well enough to Congress and to the American people about how this ends? Well, you know, they have, but they can do more. I know there's another meeting I'm invited to a classified briefing this week, and I think Joni Ernst will be there at that. But this is our basic constitutional responsibility providing for a common defense. This is not just about Iran, by the way. This is about... about modernizing and replenishing our stockpiles, modernizing our defense industrial base. We have so many threats out there. It's not just Iran. It's the eastern flank of NATO and Russia. It's also the Indo-Pacific in China. And we've been behind the curve on this. I support this funding along with the Safe America Act, which is put in there as well. Well, let's talk about that because... That has faced a lot of roadblocks and a lot of challenges. And you do have senators saying, listen, what the House passed is voter ID, proof of citizenship. There's a different version rattling around in the Senate that leadership there says is not going to pass. You also have retiring Senator Thom Tillis who took to the floor and he says it's just not a realistic proposition. I want to play a little bit of what he says because he's saying he'll shut down reconciliation, which has a lot of other GOP priorities in it if this is attached to it. Here's what he said. If I see a reconciliation bill come from the House with another failed attempt to confuse this election, I will use every device I have available to slow down the wills of government until people cop a clue and do the math. So he says there's no way it passes. But he said his words, if by a miracle it does pass, there's no way to implement it before November. And all of these other things that are important in reconciliation, the defense spending, ag spending, other things. He says it's going to make all of that stop if save is attached to this. This is very simple. The law says you have to be a citizen to vote. All we're talking about is implementing the law. and enforcing the law. So I see this is a very simple measure. But the Senate version does have some additions to it. You know, restricting a lot of mail and balloting. And also there are things related to trans treatment for minors. I mean, things that don't seem related to the voter ID part, which more than 80% of Americans are for. I think 80% of the American people support this, whatever the combination is. But the simple fact is, require them to be citizens to vote. It's really that simple. You know, the president talked a lot about China. I prosecuted the China investigation in 1997. They were putting money into the Clinton campaign. My last campaign and Senator Marco Rubio at that time had a disinformation campaign launched to get this by China. They are interfering in these elections. We need to take this integrity issue. seriously. And that's why it's important to pass it. Well, we'll watch it in the Senate as it has continued hurdles over there. Congressman, always good to see you. Thank you so much for coming. All right. Another big week for the Democratic Socialists of America as the organization releases radical new policy proposals. So plenty of things like, you know, getting rid of the Supreme Court and the presidency. Our Sunday panel on that next.
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more blue and the math doesn't math that way if you want to win the gavel if you want to be a party that actually gets to make a difference in power you have to get the majority and that doesn't seem to be a concern of them and it puts a lot of the weight on those that are more pragmatic running in areas that we can actually flip All right, we're going to put up just as kind of a scrolling banner of some of the things that they want. Abolishing ICE is part of this. Imagining a future without capitalism, which cons we don't have to do because you can go places without it. No need to imagine. Look, Mike Johnson has faced a lot of negative news cycles in this midterm election season. This is not one of them, right? Anytime Mike Johnson can talk about this, anytime Republicans, to your point, Republicans can try to force Democrats to talk about this. This is a win for this is the issue set that Reince wants to run on, right? You want to run. You want to run in capitalism versus communism. This is what the president talks about all the time. So, look, I don't suspect we're going to be having a Constitution convention anytime soon to abolish our current system. But to horrors point, 250 years, we don't know how much longer we're at this. Well, and there are those within this group who say, that Israel is one of the problems. They accused it of genocide, and they say, Maritz, it doesn't even have a right to exist as an entity. Yeah, and the Democrats who are not even whipping the vote in the House, meaning Hakeem Jeffries is so afraid of this issue that he didn't whip it, and his deputy voted the opposite way he did. But I would also say that we also need to do a better job of explaining the fact. that Israel, not just a great ally, but the intelligence we get, the military technology that we get, the fact that they take the $3 billion and they buy American equipment, and the fact that we give a billion and a half to Jim Jordan, a billion and a half to Egypt, one to Somalia, one to Nigeria, we don't talk about the strategic reasoning behind these decisions. And as far as the DSA, look, if... The fact that they have their own platform is a prime example of the fact that Ken Martin at the DNC, or if it was happening within the RNC, I'd say the same thing. These are private organizations. They get to pick their nominees. A long time ago, actual members chose the nominees of these parties. They didn't let, you know, 4 million people in Wisconsin decide who the Senate candidate was going to be. At some point, you have to say this isn't a front to the American identity. This is a threat to our party. And it is now becoming the quintessential example of the Democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. And they're allowing us, and I love it. to make an example out of what whack jobs these people are. And President Trump will exploit that every single day until November. Well, and Hans, when you ask Democrats, you may get this too. When I ask them, they say, we have a very big tent. They seem very reticent to come down hard on DSA as part of them. Now, there are a couple of them out there. I think it was Congressman Jared Moskowitz who said, this is not our party. Go start your own party. But others who say they fold within our fault. Well.
I feel like in the Democratic Party, they're looking back at where Republicans were 10, 15 years ago with the Tea Party movement, and they know they're going to have that reckoning. The general view seems to be maybe we can delay it a little bit, and that maybe we shouldn't have these big internal fights on the cusp of a midterm election where we potentially could win back the House, the Senate's in play. You get a lot of different views on that. So it's not a conversation they want to have right now, but as Reince knows, as everyone this table knows, you don't always get to choose the conversations you're going to have in the election. It was squarely within the Republican Party platform, all four corners. Nothing about that debate that didn't fit in the platform. And I would just add, the Tea Party weren't made up of arsonists. This group of people... aren't wanting to just come in the tent. They've already got their torches lit, and they want to burn it down. It's a cancer on the world's oldest political party, and they ought to be taking notice of it and changing its course. I didn't suspect that a slight reference to the Tea Party would engender such strong opinions here. But I think there's an internal debate in the Democratic Party. There was an internal debate in your party. You had some candidates that weren't great in 2010-2012. Look at the voters that are allowing these folks to win. Rich. And that was a headache for them. Super-educated, non-religious. That's not what I thought the Democrat Party was all about 20 years ago. And they may not want to talk about the DSA, but they also have this that they're going to get to talk about, which is President Joe Biden is putting it on memoir. Promise Me, America. Now, it is coming after the midterms, which... Seems very strategic to some folks. But the Washington Examiner says this. Many in the party fear that any revival of discussions about what went wrong for Democrats in 2024 only hurts their ability to rebuild the party, as some have said both former Vice President Kamala Harris and Jill Biden's book tours did earlier this year. I think the president gets to write a book. That's the deal. You're in the White House and then you get to write about it. And a lot has been said about his time in office, about the moment of the debate and when he dropped out. And I think Dr. Biden's book, when she did her tour, she might have answered some questions. But I actually do think there is a curiosity from a lot of people about how he truly felt during that moment. And I have to say, I would rather take it now than next year. I would have actually taken it last year. But if he's going to write the book and introduce it. I think now is actually the better timing. November, stand by for all of your copies. All right, panel, do not go too far. When we return, New York's Kathy Hochul becomes the first governor in the country to block AI data centers as the debate over their impact heats up. And then today is the day. Argentina versus Spain in the World Cup finale, Jonathan Hunt is live on the scene. We will go there. He's got the inside scoop coming up.
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This is a real conversation that we have to have now. And I'm disappointed that New York won't get some of that investment, but I understand it. Well, when we polled about this, we did ask in Fox News polling, how do you feel about building a data center in your area to support AI? Only 32% said they favored it. Horace, I see you shaking your head over here, but 67% that they opposed it. Like, not in my backyard. So. I'm not an NIMBY guy. And first of all, I was very disappointed to hear what sounded like China talking points from the governor of the state of New York. This is an advance. There are jobs that are going to have amazing economic growth in these communities. And these data centers are very, very likely to work on developing even more energy in their communities. In the state of Texas, they're doing... modular nuclear reactors that they've gotten greenlit and they're going to expand the energy sources in the areas. This governor is very short-sighted and part of the duty of leadership is to actually do what's right for the community, not short-term political games. Well, and you may see, you mentioned the China issue. Axios talked about this and says there is a massive new model, this Kimi K3. They say America's commanding lead in advanced AI is gone. A Chinese moonshot has caught up to models that define the U.S. frontier just weeks ago at a substantially lower price. Even if U.S. labs pull ahead again, China has shown it can closely. can close the gap quickly. And Ryan says gets to this whole issue of regulation here. Do we just keep the restrictor plates off because we've got this race with China and let it go? Or as others have real worries about AI advancements and that the Hill is doing nothing about guardrails anyway. Well, a couple things. One, clearly, this is a national security issue. This is a cybersecurity issue. This is a data issue as far as our most insensitive intelligence that... China's vacuuming up every single day. They're not fighting in China over permits or rates or anything like that. They're just doing what they want to do. And if Kathy Hochul doesn't want the jobs and she wants to make it hard, then someone in South Carolina or Tennessee is going to make it easy. And the fact is, you know, this whole debate on AI and job displacement, it's true. New technologies do. displays jobs, but then new jobs come about, whether you're talking about an ATM, farm equipment, personal computer, the internet, you know, the sky has been falling on many of these debates for many years. But America needs to lead the way and beat... China on AI so that we can continue this great experiment that we've been living. Well, and to the jobs point, Business Insider reports this. Anthropic CEO Dario Amadeh has predicted AI could eliminate up to half of entry-level white-collar jobs within five years. I mean, that's one of the leading voices on AI. Our Fox News pulling also, we ask people, what do you think is going to happen in the next five years? 59% of people thought it's going to eliminate jobs.
Well, I mean, Reince is painting an optimistic picture, and I admire the optimism. There is a great deal of concern among young people about how they're going to enter the useful workforce. And, I mean, those numbers might even be underplaying it, right? Now, let's be clear, none of us knows how AI is just the explosive possibilities are going to be so sort of magnificent and sort of insane. We won't quite know what's going to happen. But I think that the, I think, you know, On Capitol Hill, they recognize that there are real concerns about the job losses, but there are no obvious tools on how you're going to deal with that, especially if we have exploding productivity, we have exploding GDP, but also high unemployment rates. I'm not sure we have the levers how to deal with that. Can I say let's not pause, though, because we're worried about what happened? I think if the horse and buggy lobbyists had gotten there. Absolutely. We wouldn't have Henry Ford. I definitely agree. We shouldn't ignore. young people's anxiety about this, but we cannot let anxiety determine the direction of innovation in this country. Look at the bipartisan agreement over here. I would just add, we have never seen any kind of growth revolution like this lead to long-term displacement. What has come about is the growth that creates new opportunities. That's something that we ought to be mindful of. Should we take care in how this rollout occurs? Sure. But should we be hostile to... it? Absolutely not. And if we are, we do it at our peril. Well, does anything get done on the Hill? Because we hear about, I've been sitting, having legislators sit here for years now to talk about some kind of guardrails and nobody finds them. Well, the conversation on the Hill about... The executive order on the AI executive order. The National Cyberdirectors doing it. Office of Science and Technologies, I mean, they're corraling all of these different entities. So, yeah, I mean, but I agree. You cannot pause and let China... leapfrog us on this technology. That's true, but the big issue here, yes, there's the conversation about the models, open, close, source. The big issue is what Kathy Hochul was talking about earlier, is the energy to power, the permitting challenges we have in this country. And that's where China clearly has an advantage. She kills the economy and then blames this? We got to leave it there. But I like this bipartisan thing you guys have going on over here. All right, guys. Thank you very much. We'll see you next Sunday panel. In a few hours, billions potentially from around the globe, we're going to be laser-focused on the World Cup championship. We're going to take you live to Jonathan Hunt at the stadium to preview this epic showdown between Spain and Argentina.
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